Right. Oh well.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:00 pm What I wanted to say at EoD was (I posted at some point that I'd give the correct mech response 10 minutes before EoD): Heal TSP
I wasn't present around EoD though. The reasoning is that Mafia would have healed him earlier, but also telling mafia that's the plan is counter productive.
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I’m not sorry.
60% of the time, my reads that I was 100% sure of were correct.
60% of the time, my reads that I was 100% sure of were correct.
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*lied
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Imagine being the wolf team and thinking two town players lord for no reason
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Lol how embarassing
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And maybe I’ve even been wrong on Tony idk.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:03 pmPartially in my new worldview of townies Sig, Dya, Urist and Scotty, Syn and Petit are kinda on the wolf shortlist.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 12:54 pm I don’t even like Dolby’s play today but the Dolby wagon seems rly bad tbh
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Petit just being generally meh and Syn pushing against LP yeet and for Jack/Urist yeets, which are both wrong and therefore wolfy.
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Partially in my new worldview of townies Sig, Dya, Urist and Scotty, Syn and Petit are kinda on the wolf shortlist.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 12:54 pm I don’t even like Dolby’s play today but the Dolby wagon seems rly bad tbh
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I don’t even like Dolby’s play today but the Dolby wagon seems rly bad tbh
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Just like everyone who wouldn’t yeet Dunya yesterday was a wolf, everyone who won’t yeet LP today is a wolf only today I’m righter.
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Why do you keep saying things like “let’s kill Jack” or “Jack and Urist are both mafia,” don’t elaborate and then leave?
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 12:35 am Actually I don’t think there’s one person I’ve read by “they’re doing things I like = town” except Jack, all my town reads keep doing dumb things
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I disagree with Scotty’s read but at least he’s doing the mechanically correct move, here.
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@Marmot @Dolby
Do either of you think there’s a world we’re Tony is a wolf and no wolves have a poison heal today?
Do either of you think there’s a world we’re Tony is a wolf and no wolves have a poison heal today?
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LmaoTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:21 pm We should make a list of people who have done a good job and people who haven’t
People who haven’t:
Urist
Jack
Syn
Dolby
Wilgy
Scotty
Sig
People who sorta have:
NAA
Marmot
LP
People who are confirmed RBs:
Dya
TSP
Chicken I think someone make sure
POE is suspiciously the top list
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LulDolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:12 pmTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:11 pm Marmot should be a locker tonight then probably but someone should heal me
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Nanook confirmed I should have gotten a blocked notification at end of N2.
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This could be worth looking into. I would be pretty embarrassed if Tony turns out to be a wolf.Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:35 pm Jack can be partnered with TSP mainly because he soulread TSP town all day yesterday, and if TSP is mafia and dunia is town, that means Jack was wrong on exactly two of his most confident Day 2 reads.
TSP also blatantly shielded LP yesterday.
These are arguments for openwolfing wolves, but that's a thing wolves do so sure it can work.
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Oh yeah. I’m glad one of us remembered that.Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:33 pm I also feel like I'm moving towards a TSP/LP/Urist(orMaybeJackOrMaybeBoth) world
LP and TSP seem like reasonable scum team fits. Rask can't be paired with TSP. Dya probably isn't paired LP.
I guess NAA and Wilgy could literally be teammates, but I do think scum!NAA isn't doing himself any favors defending a POE candidated if Wilgy is town.
Also per my observation yesterday, the thread got quieter when the wagon jumped from LP to NAA, which makes those two look unaligned AND LP like the potential scum between the two.
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I do but it’s to do that thing where I assume people who defend my scumreads without reasoning must be doing it because they too are scum.Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:32 pmLet's try this.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:31 pmI've tried on other cases, nobody will care either way about justifications, and will just continue with their read.
I don't care about your read with a lack of justification.
And I already fucked that up bad this game so yeah, I want an answer if it hasn’t already been given.
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The idea that I’m w/w with Urist and he accidentally red peeked me is pretty funny though.
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I am because I townread Urist for the claim and I know I’m town so someone is misinterpreting or mod error. I’ve read my discord 3 times and I don’t think I’m misinterpreting.
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Okay. Then yeah, host error, I guess.Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:40 pmyou should have been told you were blocked n2Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:24 pmI’ve failed 2 actions in a row. No idea if I was blocked or if I missed my die roll.
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Ranking the non cleared players, I’d probably goJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 5:16 pm Town - Jack, Tony, Marmot, Scotty, Urist, Sig, Dya
Wolf - LP
TBD - Dolby, NAA, Wilgy, Petit, Syn
I feel like I should be able to pick the three wolves out of that bottom group.
Syn
Dolby
(scum line is here)
NAA
Petit
I’m not locking that in but that’s my initial thought.
Wilgy
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Cause even if w!Urist did P2 block me and even if he gets tracked as having done so, it’s not damning to keep quiet cause nothing proves it’s w!Urist and not just t!Urist. W!Urist gets less than nothing out of that claim.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 5:13 pm Urist is town anyway. If he’s a wolf, he uses that claim to bury me or doesn’t make it at all.
There’s no motivation for w!Urist to immediately corroborate my claim of not succeeding in an action N2 unless he’s one of those players who is super paranoid about getting caught lying and like didn’t read the setup to know town literally can’t have tracked him and gotten back info already.
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Town - Jack, Tony, Marmot, Scotty, Urist, Sig, Dya
Wolf - LP
TBD - Dolby, NAA, Wilgy, Petit, Syn
I feel like I should be able to pick the three wolves out of that bottom group.
Wolf - LP
TBD - Dolby, NAA, Wilgy, Petit, Syn
I feel like I should be able to pick the three wolves out of that bottom group.
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Urist is town anyway. If he’s a wolf, he uses that claim to bury me or doesn’t make it at all.
There’s no motivation for w!Urist to immediately corroborate my claim of not succeeding in an action N2 unless he’s one of those players who is super paranoid about getting caught lying and like didn’t read the setup to know town literally can’t have tracked him and gotten back info already.
There’s no motivation for w!Urist to immediately corroborate my claim of not succeeding in an action N2 unless he’s one of those players who is super paranoid about getting caught lying and like didn’t read the setup to know town literally can’t have tracked him and gotten back info already.
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And yeah, if I was a wolf who was Pal3 blocked, I’d say I was P3 blocked. It would be a more believable claim because I’d know there was a townie who could confirm I was telling the truth (as HK flipped Druid so it wasn’t him) vs claiming something I’d know was going to be revealed to be a lie (cause again, whoever blocked me is a living town player).
Unlike LP setting up for a Sig misyeet ftw, there’s absolutely no motivation for w!Jack to make this play.
Either Urist used a P2 block on me or Nanook made an error.
Unlike LP setting up for a Sig misyeet ftw, there’s absolutely no motivation for w!Jack to make this play.
Either Urist used a P2 block on me or Nanook made an error.
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Urist says he’s Paladin 3. He didn’t clarify what action he used on me. Like he could have used Paladin 2 and then already leveled to 3 and you’re just assuming.Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 5:01 pm “Paladin paradox resolution: If two Paladins target each other with blocks, the higher class level prevails. If they are the same class level, both are considered roleblocked for Class Actions but NOT for the factional kill.”
Jack says he blocked urist with Paladin 2
Urist says he blocked jack work Paladin 3.
Linki: I am 100% certain I was not notified that I was blocked.
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And please do confirm this.Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:45 pmi was told the opposite on n0. going to confirm with nanook. maybe he released another sneaky midgame patch, he seems to like those.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:39 pm Additionally, I was told that I couldn’t earn CP by using Pal1 unless it actually healed poison.
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If he used Pal3. If he used Pal2, I wouldn’t.Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:53 pmYes, but Paladin 3 informs the blockee they were blocked.
Hence, you saying you don’t know if you were blocked or not, and urist saying you should know you were blocked..
You’re making a claim for Urist. Urist claimed a block on me AFTER I said I didn’t know if I was blocked or not so if Urist was gonna say I was mechanically outted as lying, he could have said it then.
Maybe he’ll come back and say so (a lie or a host error) but I doubt it cause host error isn’t that common and Urist likely town.
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I maintain I was told Pal1 only gains CP from actually healing poison.
If anyone healed a non poisoned player and got CP for it, I’m calling hax.
If anyone healed a non poisoned player and got CP for it, I’m calling hax.
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Yeah, no, I wasn’t informed of a block. I don’t want to give the exact wording cause that’s like don’t quote mod communication but I wasn’t told I was blocked so I wasn’t hit with Paladin3 on either night unless there was a host error.
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Presumably, I was hit with this, instead.Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:47 pmJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:24 pmI’ve failed 2 actions in a row. No idea if I was blocked or if I missed my die roll.Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:40 pmyou should have been told you were blocked n2Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:24 pmI’ve failed 2 actions in a row. No idea if I was blocked or if I missed my die roll.Paladin:
Level three: Heavy Attack (blocks your targets Class abilities AND the factional kill–your target is informed they were blocked, even if they used no abilities)
But let me check discord for a block notice and the poison heal CP explanation.Level two: Light Attack (blocks your targets Class abilities, but does not affect the factional kill)
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But not their actions. And Sig hasn’t flipped, nor have any wolves.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:45 pmPlayer roles flipped...Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:39 pmIt would be nice if someone claimed a block but wolves, Dunya and randomized t!Sig (maybe not, idk how his point assignment is determined. Presumably also randomly) can’t or won’t claim blocks on me. Additionally, I was told that I couldn’t earn CP by using Pal1 unless it actually healed poison. Under that logic, a Pal2 block on someone that was only Pal1 (ie who had no action to block) might not earn CP anyway, without the 15% (or whatever) fail chance even entering into it.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:34 pmOk, so assuming that nobody has a roleblock to claim, there's a 2% chance that Jack is town, 98% chance that jack is mafia (the probability of 2 Fails on 85% in a row.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:29 pmPal2 block on Sig (figured he was doing nothing helpful if town and could be doing bad shit if wolf) and then a Pal2 block on Urist. Which like isn’t a brilliant move but like I said, I don’t have any strong scumreads (except now LP).
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But even if Sig was bad, wolves wouldn’t waste a kill trying to protect him when Sig dies for free at the whim of the town without even using a yeet.Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:42 pmThere is tho. As she said, she was probably going down, so why not force the wolves to kill her so she doesn’t reveal info if sig was the one to make the kills.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:23 pm There’s no reason whatsoever to make that lie as a townie.
Then again, that’s a really stupid lie to make as a wolf cause why?
This is all assuming sig is bad at all, which…I mean…he probably isn’t…
Hmm
This doesn’t make sense as a play even if a t!LP w!Sig world.
Plus, t!LP would have to bet that nobody would claim a block on her even though her action failed, causing a town loss to threaten a wolf that is already dead. Whereas w!LP also risks her own yeet but the payoff for succeeding is a wolf win and the penalty for failing is a single wolf yeet.
It makes more sense for a wolf to lie when not getting caught means a win than for a townie to lie when getting caught is a loss.
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This is a good thing to claim.Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:37 pmin the interest of not getting flamed in post i'll say i did block jack n2.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:34 pmOk, so assuming that nobody has a roleblock to claim, there's a 2% chance that Jack is town, 98% chance that jack is mafia (the probability of 2 Fails on 85% in a row.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:29 pmPal2 block on Sig (figured he was doing nothing helpful if town and could be doing bad shit if wolf) and then a Pal2 block on Urist. Which like isn’t a brilliant move but like I said, I don’t have any strong scumreads (except now LP).
Also a good look for Urist. Not a great look because maybe he’s claiming an action Dunya or Sig actually made or maybe I missed my roll but gth, I don’t think a wolf quickly fake claims this action. If wolves are going for the 4 player death by cuts strategy (and maybe they’re not but we’ll have a very good guess soon), Urist is proooobably town.
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It would be nice if someone claimed a block but wolves, Dunya and randomized t!Sig (maybe not, idk how his point assignment is determined. Presumably also randomly) can’t or won’t claim blocks on me. Additionally, I was told that I couldn’t earn CP by using Pal1 unless it actually healed poison. Under that logic, a Pal2 block on someone that was only Pal1 (ie who had no action to block) might not earn CP anyway, without the 15% (or whatever) fail chance even entering into it.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:34 pmOk, so assuming that nobody has a roleblock to claim, there's a 2% chance that Jack is town, 98% chance that jack is mafia (the probability of 2 Fails on 85% in a row.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:29 pmPal2 block on Sig (figured he was doing nothing helpful if town and could be doing bad shit if wolf) and then a Pal2 block on Urist. Which like isn’t a brilliant move but like I said, I don’t have any strong scumreads (except now LP).
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[VOTE:
LP] aubergine
Assuming this isn’t a big brain sacrifice bunt, getting rid of a wolf here and confirming the two least active players (Sig and Dya) as town is potentially game winning. Luckily, jinxes don’t really exist.
Assuming this isn’t a big brain sacrifice bunt, getting rid of a wolf here and confirming the two least active players (Sig and Dya) as town is potentially game winning. Luckily, jinxes don’t really exist.
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She was never gonna bait a kill by threatening an empty slot when there’s a special mechanic explicitly for killing empty slots.Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:28 pmthe only town motivation was to try to bait a kill onto herself and frankly the logic used doesn't hold but I believe it more than her actually being on sigJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:27 pm Oh, there is wolf motivation. To come in tomorrow with info pointing to Sig being wolf (assuming Sig is town).
So if LP is a wolf, Sig is almost always town, here.
I don’t see any Town motivation for telling this lie.
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And LP was a wolf, right?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:26 pm I gotta say, last time LP was caught in a lie, a bunch of town explained away how it made sense, and definitely not alignment indicative. So maybe I was being too harsh on Dolby, and should instead continue lobbying to have LP killed.