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by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 7:38 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Dragomir wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 7:26 pm
speedchuck wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 7:22 pm
Dragomir wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 7:18 pm
speedchuck wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 7:17 pm
Dragomir wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 7:09 pm What's up with these low vote wagons here man? Need some more voters up in here. @speedchuck who do you want to lynch?
[VOTE: RDW2] aubergine

I'm still weighing options.
What do you think about what I said about Mac and Nut?
Mac claiming makes perfect sense. It solidifies DDL and Mac into the core without sacrificing any future checks... because he has none.
Solidifying them into the core for what reason? DDL is only being scum read by two ppl, who tf will check him? Me or you when nobody knows if we are an invest or not? It makes no sense to put somebody in the core who was already in the core. Mac would out himself so he doesn't get checked? That's kinda dumb but ok.
Is your stance that Mac should not have given town information to use, and possibly died eventually without giving us this knowledge?

Because I'm sitting here like what
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 7:22 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Dragomir wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 7:18 pm
speedchuck wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 7:17 pm
Dragomir wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 7:09 pm What's up with these low vote wagons here man? Need some more voters up in here. @speedchuck who do you want to lynch?
[VOTE: RDW2] aubergine

I'm still weighing options.
What do you think about what I said about Mac and Nut?
Mac claiming makes perfect sense. It solidifies DDL and Mac into the core without sacrificing any future checks... because he has none.

Nutella I'm open to listing about. Conversation with her hasn't been very open. But at least for a while, I don't think she's been here.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 7:17 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Dragomir wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 7:09 pm What's up with these low vote wagons here man? Need some more voters up in here. @speedchuck who do you want to lynch?
[VOTE: RDW2] aubergine

I'm still weighing options.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 7:03 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Dragomir wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 6:58 pm Hold up. I don't understand the point in Mac revealing that he got inno on DDL. DDL was literally someone who everybody town read but me. That shit didn't help. So your entire claim brung like no purpose @MacDougall unless I'm missing something.
I didn't town read him.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 6:42 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

MacDougall wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 6:40 pm I don't think so. If I was scum I would have still used the action even if I intended to gambit with it.
So that you could be tracked/blocked/etc.

It was just a thought. It looks like you do still get the ability, even if scum. The OP says there are mafia-only abilities, not no town-only ones. (So ninja only goes to mafia, but cop goes to both.)

I believe you.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 6:33 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Come to think of it Mac could be the scum ninja/cop and be claiming a town check on DDL when there was no such thing, because as scum he wouldn't actually use the ability and therefore wouldn't have known he was blocked.

Doing it for the credit.

I'd tinfoil this more than tinfoiling DDL/Mac w/w.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 6:31 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

There are four roles that could have roleblocked/jailkept Lux on N3.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 6:16 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Basically if scum get a cop, it's useless, so the setup gives the player an ninja to use.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 6:15 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Luxurious wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 6:07 pm Oh ALSO re: Mac ability

It has the ninja modifier so it goes first in action resolution
"Ninja: Kills performed with Ninja cannot be detected (serves no purpose if player is town)"
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 5:38 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Dragomir wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 5:35 pm
Luxurious wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 5:32 pm
speedchuck wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 5:25 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 5:16 pm In the name of the Jay, I charge you to make effort cases. In the name of the Dunya, I charge you to be creepily accurate. In the name of the Epi, I charge you to irritate the scum into failure. Arise, Luffy of Naruto Forums, a civ of the S6 Scrimmage.
I trust this. Narrows my POE quite nicely.
My POE just got shot now I have to do a hard reconsider
What's POE?
POE is 'process of elimination'.

When a townie starts the game, they think anyone could be scum. As they townread people, they eliminate them from consideration, and end up with a POE: a shorter list of people who could be scum.

It's like a list of scumreads, but it focuses on getting rid of townreads more than putting on scumreads.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 5:34 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Dragomir wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 5:33 pm
speedchuck wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 5:29 pm
Dragomir wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 5:28 pm
speedchuck wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 5:27 pm
Dragomir wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 5:26 pm Tinfoil: Mac and DDL are scum buddies.
*crumples tinfoil*

*puts tinfoil in microwave*

*stares blankly at thread as microwave does its thing*
If I'm right you'll pay for a new microwave after the current one gets destroyed from metal being heated up.
Um. Um.

Bet.

(Did i do that right?)
You used that word right lol.
:slick:
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 5:29 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Dragomir wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 5:28 pm
speedchuck wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 5:27 pm
Dragomir wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 5:26 pm Tinfoil: Mac and DDL are scum buddies.
*crumples tinfoil*

*puts tinfoil in microwave*

*stares blankly at thread as microwave does its thing*
If I'm right you'll pay for a new microwave after the current one gets destroyed from metal being heated up.
Um. Um.

Bet.

(Did i do that right?)
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 5:29 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Views: 61221

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Dragomir wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 5:27 pm
speedchuck wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 5:26 pm
Dragomir wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 5:25 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 5:16 pm In the name of the Jay, I charge you to make effort cases. In the name of the Dunya, I charge you to be creepily accurate. In the name of the Epi, I charge you to irritate the scum into failure. Arise, Luffy of Naruto Forums, a civ of the S6 Scrimmage.
I knew it was DDL you'd have investigated. Damnit.
You knew he would have done it and he said he had a town peek. So...

And why are you upset about this?
Because it gives more support in DDL being town and I severely disagree on DDL being town.
It literally clears DDL unless Mac is lying (and therefore almost certainly scum).
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 5:27 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Dragomir wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 5:26 pm Tinfoil: Mac and DDL are scum buddies.
*crumples tinfoil*

*puts tinfoil in microwave*

*stares blankly at thread as microwave does its thing*
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 5:26 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Views: 61221

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Dragomir wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 5:25 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 5:16 pm In the name of the Jay, I charge you to make effort cases. In the name of the Dunya, I charge you to be creepily accurate. In the name of the Epi, I charge you to irritate the scum into failure. Arise, Luffy of Naruto Forums, a civ of the S6 Scrimmage.
I knew it was DDL you'd have investigated. Damnit.
You knew he would have done it and he said he had a town peek. So...

And why are you upset about this?
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 5:25 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Views: 61221

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

MacDougall wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 5:16 pm In the name of the Jay, I charge you to make effort cases. In the name of the Dunya, I charge you to be creepily accurate. In the name of the Epi, I charge you to irritate the scum into failure. Arise, Luffy of Naruto Forums, a civ of the S6 Scrimmage.
I trust this. Narrows my POE quite nicely.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 5:16 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Luxurious wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 5:13 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 5:11 pm
Luxurious wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 5:10 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 5:08 pm Seems to me like there is a lack of focus. Perhaps I should share my green peek to help narrow the focus a bit? If you were the green peek and I name dropped you would you be happy/sad/pissed?

Don't want to upset anyone.
I’d be fine with it since my WIM can only carry me so far and I wanna die already.

But i get the feeling it’s Not Me
No but if you aren't a civ I would eat my hat
Oh man I used to say that as scum when i was trying to pocket people
Why did you stop? It's a really good line.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 5:12 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

MacDougall wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 5:08 pm Seems to me like there is a lack of focus. Perhaps I should share my green peek to help narrow the focus a bit? If you were the green peek and I name dropped you would you be happy/sad/pissed?
It probably wouldn't affect my emotional state. But I'm almost certainly not your target.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 4:38 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Dragomir wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 4:32 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 2:28 pm Please tell me the remaining 4 pages I have to read are not just people trying to make Dragomir act reasonably and failing to do so.

Because it's making this catch-up boring.
The stuff that you guys find me to be doing as unreasonable is not as unreasonable as you may think.

I understand that gloating may be TMI and a bad thing and not giving town reads is also a bad thing but that's just part of my personality mate. I love being right and it hurts when I'm wrong. Basically why I keep playing mafia as I want to have correct reads and if they're wrong I'll use them as motivation.

Like come on, you guys can't be telling me you don't like rubbing it in once in a while.
The weird thing is, if there's a town lynch, you're on the losing team there. And you're rubbing it in.

"Yeah, yeah we suck! I was technically right, but we suck and we failed. Haha!"

It's not a great team mentality and it makes people instinctively feel like you're not on their team.
That said, I usually want to rub it in after I get mislynched but I'm dead and can't talk. Which is probably a good thing.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 4:27 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 2]

speedchuck wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 9:49 pm
JessieKruger wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 12:06 pm
Dragomir wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 7:05 am
MacDougall wrote: Wed May 01, 2019 10:10 pm @Dragomir yesterday you were desperate for DDL to get lynched. What has changed?
Don't really care who gets lynched as long as it's Owner, DDL, or Jack. All 3 are scum to me. I think there's a little more indicating Ultra and Owner being buddies than the rest though.
I agree to this owner was pushing more into JJJ in day. 1 phase.
What interests me most is the first quoted post where JK says some stuff about day one.
JK had only arrived in the thread for the first time 6.5 hours earlier. Did he go back and read all of day one to make that ONE observation and then toddle off afterward? That's some crazy devotion for a guy who posted only 4 or 5 times in the next 4 days.
I snipped this down to the relevant parts. What do the other people playing think of JK's D1 observations. TMI for a guy who hasn't been here?
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 4:22 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Luxurious wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 4:20 pm “What do you think Dragomir” mrrrrr.
I love how you purr when you're ruminating on something sketchy.

No homo/hetero or whatever.

I agree that was pretty sketchy.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 4:16 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

[mention]nutella[/mention] Who in this game would you clear of suspicion, right now? If you had to pick three, not including yourself?

You too [mention]Luxurious[/mention].

I know your scumreads better than your townreads, is why I ask.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 4:15 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

nutella wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 4:05 pm See but that's exactly it. Putting a first vote on a teammate not knowing it would take off and then not continuing to discuss him when it does -- that to me does look like a bus, made to look effortless.
An accidental bus, then. I figure I probably would have at least tried to case someone else, in that circumstance. Provide some other scumread. The game had plenty of options.

But it's fine. I guess you don't have to give me any credit for the Ultra lynch, and self-defense is pretty pointless in mafia. So long as you don't say I did nothing relevant all game. :p
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 3:59 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Yeah the air guitar smiley is messed up, someone needs to fix that.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 3:59 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Luxurious wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 3:53 pm
nutella wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 3:52 pm
speedchuck wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 3:49 pm
Luxurious wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 3:45 pm Like there isnt really a PUSH there you feel me. There’s a vote with some suspicion and then a couple questioning prods afterwards.

You voted Ultra for hiding behind Nova yeah? That’s most of your reasoning?

Im gonna go through Ultra’s posts to see if he responded to your JJJ questions that you might’ve missed since i didnt see a response in your ISO
Yeah, I didn't campaign for it. I just voted and stated my reasons. That was all of them.

It's not super strong, I guess. But it can't be a bus, either, because I didn't push it. :P Just me pointing out some bad stuff, voting, and then vanishing.
what
He’s not bussing because he early voted for his partner and couldnt get any towncred from his lynch :air_guitar:
It's true. If I was bussing, maybe I'd have some town cred. ;airguitar:
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 3:58 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Luxurious wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 3:56 pm So her boldness and appearance to post false information in an attempt to scumread you makes you think she’s town?

I... got that right?
I think she would be more careful as scum. I think she went it thinking I was town because of tone and blendiness and got into a tunnel where everything I did looked bad. Then she made some mistakes in her 'got em' state of mind.

As scum, most people are a little more calculating.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 3:49 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Luxurious wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 3:45 pm Like there isnt really a PUSH there you feel me. There’s a vote with some suspicion and then a couple questioning prods afterwards.

You voted Ultra for hiding behind Nova yeah? That’s most of your reasoning?

Im gonna go through Ultra’s posts to see if he responded to your JJJ questions that you might’ve missed since i didnt see a response in your ISO
Yeah, I didn't campaign for it. I just voted and stated my reasons. That was all of them.

It's not super strong, I guess. But it can't be a bus, either, because I didn't push it. :P Just me pointing out some bad stuff, voting, and then vanishing.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 3:47 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Luxurious wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 3:37 pm Regarding that: you stated earlier that nutella’s case could be a tunnel or she could be fighting for a mislynch, which are you more inclined to believe
Nutella suspects me every game and is aware of it. This case on me looks about how I would expect it to look either way.

But the case has a lot of strictly false information in it. Claiming that I swapped to Jack D1 being the chief thing. Nutella's false info that she probably grabbed from my ISO without looking too hard at when it was posted tells me that she was eager to scumread me. She was in the tunnel.

I slightly lean toward her being in the tunnel on me before she ever got her role PM. She would probably make the case on me either way, in that instance, but as scum I think she might be more careful about it.

. . .

Yeah, town lean I think.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 3:44 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 1]

Luxurious wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 3:42 pm
speedchuck wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:00 pm [VOTE: Ultra] aubergine
The follow up to Ultra suspicions

speedchuck wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:07 pm
Gemma wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:03 pm
speedchuck wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:00 pm [VOTE: Ultra] aubergine
did you forget that you were townreading that player
No. Because I'm not.

I have some town pings from them, but I mentioned something scummy as well. If it continues, their need to cling to and buddy Nova will easily outweigh any town cred they have.
Pointing out hiding behind Nova
speedchuck wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:33 pm
Ultra wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:29 pm [VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

I don't know speedchuck or his meta or whatever but he town read and defended him far too soon. Also switched his vote to a player who isn't active instead of pursuing DDL
Do you believe that JJJ was defending a teammate, or that he knows I'm town because he's not?
JJJ questioning
speedchuck wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:20 pm
Ultra wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:19 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:39 am The whole no lynch thing is hilarious, and I'm more intrigued by DDL jumping on Speed than the latter making that claim. I took it as him messing around, 'cause I don't believe for a second that he's serious about it.

I can't say I'm a fan of you calling out the vote on DDL, nor throwing around fancy words like "chainsaw defense". Feels like over-compensating :grin:
If that was a bait post it's a pretty bad one. A player with low presence makes a very bad suggestion and then leaves. I can't reflexively blame someone for voting for that. I will blame a player for jumping on that player without explanation.
I thought it was pretty good. It might have worked even.
Offense taken.

Otherwise that’s it tbh
That is basically it. Was anything else added? I wasn't around for dayend.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 3:32 pm
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Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Luxurious wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 3:28 pm
speedchuck wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 3:27 pm
Luxurious wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 3:26 pm Also re:Dragomir where did you get the information regarding his case? From nutella’s posts?
No, I had skimmed different sections of ISOs.

Not reading the whole game doesn't mean that I won't dip and search around for relevant things.
I guess it will remain a play style difference then.

Who’s ISO’s btw and why those specifically
I searched several for Dragomir-related things.

Thus far I've looked at the second half of Mac's ISO, RDW's, JK's, MP's, Owner's, and the first page or so of Dragomir's and JJJ's, and most of nutella's. That's today. I've also read the thread for the portions of time that I've posted in it, like now for example. The reason I need to look at You and DDL more is because I haven't touched your ISO much yet.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 3:27 pm
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Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Luxurious wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 3:26 pm Also re:Dragomir where did you get the information regarding his case? From nutella’s posts?
No, I had skimmed different sections of ISOs.

Not reading the whole game doesn't mean that I won't dip and search around for relevant things.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 3:24 pm
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Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 3:17 pm The next time someone defends themselves/someone else by saying they voted for scum on Day 1 I'm CFD'ing them.

Because I recently played a game where we gave 5 different people towncred for that and one of them was mafia. They won.

Syndicate has been the stage of some of the most epic feats of bussing of the 21th Century.
I built the damned case from ground up, using something that nobody else noticed. Saying that I did nothing other than trap you this game is intellectually dishonest.

I'm not going to say I don't bus. I bus. I've noted earlier that the Syndicate is bus-happy. But that doesn't mean you can't take things into account.

This conversation:
DDL: Speed did nothing this game.
Speed: I built the one case that has lynched scum.
DDL: Try and defend yourself with things that you've done and I'll CFD you. Scum can lynch teammates!
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 3:22 pm
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Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Luxurious wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 3:20 pm
speedchuck wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 3:19 pm
Luxurious wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 3:16 pm Not reading -> disappearing for like two day phases -> coming back with little reads -> waffling
a. NAI. If I have to read the whole thread every game I will quit mafia.
b. NAI. I was in another game that was more pressing and I'm usually not that active on the weekend.
c. NAI. If you were disappeared for two days you wouldn't have many reads on return either. What am I supposed to do, make them up?
d. @nutella Isn't waffling really scummy though?
Read the game lol
No. If you keep insisting for me to read the entire game I will leave. Or, at least, start ignoring you.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 3:21 pm
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Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Luxurious wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 3:18 pm My biggest issue with you Speed is the constant reminder that you’re not reading the whole game. There could be important information involved with what you’ve skipped

Plus, saying “idk I havent read it” is an easy cop out of having to give an opinion
I burned myself out on Mafia really hard last year. Nowadays I read while I'm here, play as much as I desire playing, snark at people when I shouldn't, and have three times as much fun.

And the thing is, I ASK QUESTIONS about what I missed, like with the case on Dragomir. And then I go back and reference those specific things instead of reading through the entire thread.

It's just my playstyle now. I was town in that game that just ended and there are probably ten or twenty pages of the game I never touched.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 3:19 pm
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Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Luxurious wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 3:16 pm Not reading -> disappearing for like two day phases -> coming back with little reads -> waffling
a. NAI. If I have to read the whole thread every game I will quit mafia.
b. NAI. I was in another game that was more pressing and I'm usually not that active on the weekend.
c. NAI. If you were disappeared for two days you wouldn't have many reads on return either. What am I supposed to do, make them up?
d. [mention]nutella[/mention] Isn't waffling really scummy though?
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 3:12 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

That's better.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 3:12 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 3:09 pm The last remarkable thing he did in this game was the trap thing.
The last remarkable thing you did was get caught in the trap thing.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 3:11 pm
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Damn wait
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 3:11 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 3:09 pm The last remarkable thing he did in this game was the trap thing.
Y'know, except for instigating the Ultra lynch.

I don't usually have a problem with being scumread, but I have no idea why it is happening in this game.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 1:20 pm
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Luxurious wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 1:18 pm
speedchuck wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 1:04 pm We only do chainsaw defenses of ourselves, and we call them NO Us.
If I’m scum I’m defending my whole team.

The game I quoted that from we won without a single mafia being lynched so it’s not like it doesnt work
It can. We're kind of a bus-happy forum this way. In a recent game, JackofHearts bussed both his teammates on D1/D2 and rode to victory from there.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 1:19 pm
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Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Luxurious wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 1:07 pm Also speed. That makes some amount of sense. Do you plan on doing investigative work?
Some.

I won't be reading whole ISOs, but I will be skimming and searching them.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 1:04 pm
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

We only do chainsaw defenses of ourselves, and we call them NO Us.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 1:03 pm
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Can someone point out the main points in the Dragomir case? Is there anything that can't be explained by culture clash?

I know I'm waffling on him but I don't want a repeat Gemma. So far I have:

Initial timidity that only lasted like 5 posts. (not applicable anymore)
Gloating when a townie got lynched. (I'm still wtfing over that)
Playa salad (would be the most damning thing, but I'm pretty sure DDL was clearly his preferred lynch, and that miight make it not as bad)
An apparent dislike of providing townreads (he's been throwing scumreads out like candy tho)

All of these points still look somewhat bad, but I want to know if I've missed anything.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 12:57 pm
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

Luxurious wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 12:21 pm
speedchuck wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 11:17 am speedchuck
JaggedJimmyJay
Luxurious

Macdougall
Owner of a Lonely Heart

Dragon D Luffy
nutella
Dragomir
rundontwalk2
M Plus 7
JessieKruger

This is what I have after going back and reviewing a few things.
I checked out Jay's progressions on Gemma and Ultra. At one point early on, both were townreads. The progression from there looked natural.
I probably still need to take a closer look at Lux - volume of posts and tone alone isn't enough to make me completely comfortable leaving him there. Need to check interactions and opinions.
DDL is another I probably need to look closer at.
Nutella is a bit of a question mark because while I was pinged by her entrance (in retrospect) and while she's posted a context-less case on me, that latter bit might be a good look. If she was on a team, they would know that half of the things she cased me with factually failed based on the timing and the in-thread actions. Not to mention that she's jumping in as a replacement. These are all reasons to cut slack here, but I want to see what she does moving forward.
Dragomir is only above the bottom three because I have at least one or two positive pings from him, and the same cannot be said for those beneath him.

11 players left, three scum, no vigs. One kill per night unless the night 4 protectives get lucky. Can't count on that. We have two mislynches before MYLO, or one mislynch before MP and JK kill us with inactivity (if they are both town).

POE needs to be four or five players. I have six. Still work to do, but I'll wait and see if anyone says anything today.
Hey weird flex but why isnt RDW included there
I have no idea. He must have gotten deleted as I was moving things around.
This means my POE is even bigger. :(
Luxurious wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 12:23 pm Another weird flex is putting me as high as you do and then coming back and saying you need to actually read my posts, which I agree you do but like...

I dont see why I’m that high if all I got going for me is highest poster?

Especially when you come back and say you need to do DDL too, and place him midrange.
I have read your posts, and I find them towny. I have read DDL's posts, and find them a mixed bag.
I have not really gone in-depth and read EVERYTHING, nor have I scoured either of you for interactions or specific things. Your placements on the list are my estimation of you, but my confidence level isn't as high as I would like.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 11:35 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 11:32 am I finished these a bit more quickly than I anticipated. As such I'm going to include Lux and Owner for a more complete picture.
Will you include the Ultra w/w stuff you did on an earlier day in the spreadsheet?
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 11:17 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

speedchuck
JaggedJimmyJay
Luxurious

Macdougall
Owner of a Lonely Heart

Dragon D Luffy
nutella
Dragomir
rundontwalk2
M Plus 7
JessieKruger

This is what I have after going back and reviewing a few things.
I checked out Jay's progressions on Gemma and Ultra. At one point early on, both were townreads. The progression from there looked natural.
I probably still need to take a closer look at Lux - volume of posts and tone alone isn't enough to make me completely comfortable leaving him there. Need to check interactions and opinions.
DDL is another I probably need to look closer at.
Nutella is a bit of a question mark because while I was pinged by her entrance (in retrospect) and while she's posted a context-less case on me, that latter bit might be a good look. If she was on a team, they would know that half of the things she cased me with factually failed based on the timing and the in-thread actions. Not to mention that she's jumping in as a replacement. These are all reasons to cut slack here, but I want to see what she does moving forward.
Dragomir is only above the bottom three because I have at least one or two positive pings from him, and the same cannot be said for those beneath him.

11 players left, three scum, no vigs. One kill per night unless the night 4 protectives get lucky. Can't count on that. We have two mislynches before MYLO, or one mislynch before MP and JK kill us with inactivity (if they are both town).

POE needs to be four or five players. I have six. Still work to do, but I'll wait and see if anyone says anything today.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 10:49 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

When I came in with 7 notifications, I thought a lot must have happened.

Nope.

Guess it's back to ISOs then.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 10:40 am
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

MacDougall wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 10:38 am
speedchuck wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 10:35 am
MacDougall wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 10:33 am Speedchuck your low effort attempts to look like you give a shit are noted.
I am kinda discouraged by this.
Okay soz. Find bad guys. I'm not dumb enough to gambit a fake cop claim mate. You must think me foolish or something.
Guess I'm dumb and foolish then, because I didn't think it'd be a bad idea. Nor scummy.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 10:35 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

MacDougall wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 10:33 am Speedchuck your low effort attempts to look like you give a shit are noted.
I am kinda discouraged by this.
by speedchuck
Wed May 08, 2019 10:29 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]

MacDougall wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 9:28 am
Luxurious wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 9:18 am
MacDougall wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 9:08 am Maybe alignment checks don't get prevented by jailness in Sloonworld on account of them not being damaging to the recipient.
You’re the cop. I’m the jailer. You bring me the bad guys and I lock them up.

Played a joke on you last night and locked you in jail for the meme of it and then left you in there by accident
Dang you
:ponder: So Mac was gambitting?

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