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by speedchuck
Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:25 pm
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Topic: Mega Man Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:19 pm
speedchuck wrote: Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:12 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:41 pm Oh only four lynches. Oh ok.
If DH has any teammates in BTSC, they aren't helping him to catch up. The case against marmot, the use of their power to skip a day, etc. DH has been relying on us. Three possibilities.
1. He has no teammates.
2. He has no ACTIVE teammates.
3. They're being smart about trying to get us to believe 1 or 2. Which... meh.
I have no teammates.
Holy **** it's PROTO MAN
by speedchuck
Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:12 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:41 pm Oh only four lynches. Oh ok.
If DH has any teammates in BTSC, they aren't helping him to catch up. The case against marmot, the use of their power to skip a day, etc. DH has been relying on us. Three possibilities.
1. He has no teammates.
2. He has no ACTIVE teammates.
3. They're being smart about trying to get us to believe 1 or 2. Which... meh.
by speedchuck
Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:40 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:30 pm Infected Aliens last post was on Day 1

I come in, trying to understand the Marmot case which is the only case anyone's talking about. find some things about it I don't like, and then and only after I pull my own goddamn teeth out getting people to think critically, I find a pretty significant portion of the case that i do like and throw my hat in on it.

Anyway

Infected Alien's last post was 4-5 in-game-days ago and they made it this far without being lynched but I jump into the fray and everybody's nipples get real hard all of a sudden. Kinda makes a guy wonder what the fuck we're doing here :shrug:
We've only had 4 lynches in the whole game. A day-phase was skipped. So really it's like 3 days, and some people have voiced suspicion of Alien in that time.

But yeah, we don't really know what we're doing.
by speedchuck
Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:16 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

Turnip Head wrote: Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:40 pm And I'm the one who gets shamed for posting nonsense
You weren't the one writing fanfiction a few days ago. :shrug:
by speedchuck
Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:34 pm
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Topic: Mega Man Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:15 pm Somebody tell me why I should townread DH.
Well, DH replaced Alien.

And Alien was scum in the previous game he was in. What are the odds he'd be scum in this one? Eh? Eh?

It's called gambler's fallacy theory.
by speedchuck
Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:05 am
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

Turnip Head wrote: Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:04 am Fwiw I'm surprised you don't want to reread my iso speed, its a crisp read, very well paced
I'd love to read it, but I don't think I'll get anything different out of it.

Also mega man 1 is kinda difficult yo
by speedchuck
Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:32 am
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

Nova post count analysis

Jobs:
MK mafia - town - 96 posts
Greece - 3p aligned with scum - 110 posts
Firefly - town - 152 posts + Yun Qui posts
Mega man - ??? - 26 posts

SM:
Buffy - town - 28 posts
Assclass - town - 80 posts
Fiddler - 3p - 43 posts
Image mafia - scum - 13 posts

Heists:
FWWM - town - 14 posts
LOTR mafia - town (killed d1) - 2 posts

I honestly thought this would be more helpful than it ended up being.
by speedchuck
Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:16 am
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

speedchuck


Quin
sprityo
JackofHearts2005
Dyslexicon
Kylemii
Long Con


Turnip Head

DharmaHelper

DFaraday
Dom
Soneji
DrWilgy

Bullzeye

K-Ness
novaselinenever


Spoiler: show
Elohcin - Lynched Day 1: Mega Man
Simon - Lynched Day 4: Charge Man (Light)

JaggedJimmyJay - Destroyed Night 1.
ColinIsCool - Destroyed Night 1.

MacDougall - Destroyed Night 2.
nutella - Destroyed Night 3.
Sloonei - Destroyed Night 4.


Lunalee - Lynched Day 3: Bright Man (Wily)
Marmot - Lynched Day 5: Magnet Man (Wily)
There may be scum in that first grouping of players. Odds are low. It's almost certainly not Sprit or Quin, if there's one in there. Or Long Con. More likely Jack, Kylemii, or Dizzy. Dizzy specifically because Luna "didn't want to talk about White because they hadn't posted," and because replacement theory.

I can't read Turnip Head as strongly as anyone else. Almost certainly town, but I don't want to put him with the first grouping because I can go back and evaluate them. I'm not doing that for TH.

I like DH. I like the way he came into the thread. But priority replacement ugh. I don't really think his 'defense' of Marmot matters much. The case against Marmot was good, but it was a "you had to be there (or read the whole thread)" kinda dealie. And once he read the whole thing, found the full case, he got in the wagon.

Group 4: Idunno. Seriously holding out hope for that Dr. Wilgy reveal. It would make my day. Please vig, please replace.

Group 5: Bullzeye is my priority to go back and read now that we have another scum flip. I've gone back and forth on him more than anyone this game.

Group 6: K-ness is pretty universally suspected for just skating by. They feel like they're in over their head, even after over ten days of game. Mafia-ish. Nothing to ping me hard the other way.
Luna voted Nova on day one. That's the only positive thing I can say there. Need to go back and check, but absent nova might be bad nova?

Clearly I have a lot to go back and evaluate.
by speedchuck
Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:51 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

MAGMA
by speedchuck
Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:45 pm
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Topic: Mega Man Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

Quin wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:42 pm
speedchuck wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:40 pm
Quin wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:38 pm I did a google. You collect letters in the games. An indy role who survives too see those letters come up (i.e. needs certain roles dead?) could work.
I mean... there are a lot of Ms and As in the roles. :haha:
If my guess that it's gonna spell mega man at the end, letter dude is gonna need an N. Shame they're in such low demand.
... they aren't? And we just had a possible 'e' that didn't show up.

My guess is the letters are done or the guy who needs em is daed
by speedchuck
Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:40 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

Quin wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:38 pm I did a google. You collect letters in the games. An indy role who survives too see those letters come up (i.e. needs certain roles dead?) could work.
I mean... there are a lot of Ms and As in the roles. :haha:
by speedchuck
Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:20 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:17 pm Letters have stopped Sloonei might have been Cossack?
Or maybe we just have all the letters?
Or... why are the letters not for proto man?
by speedchuck
Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:19 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

Quin wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:50 pm
speedchuck wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:44 pm ALSO

For those that have played with me a lot over the last year and a half:

How often have you seen me vote to save a teammate? (I don't recall ever doing this)
How often have you seen me vote against a scum wagon and get flak for it?
1. Can you link me to your scum games? I know you did it to me in Fire Emblem, but it was a lot different to here since I was actively defending myself.

2. I don't understand the purpose of this question. How is others giving you flak an indication of your alignment?
I have every game I've been in, with alignments and win/loss shown, linked in my signature. But for convenience:
Spoiler: show
by speedchuck
Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:44 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

ALSO

For those that have played with me a lot over the last year and a half:

How often have you seen me vote to save a teammate? (I don't recall ever doing this)
How often have you seen me vote against a scum wagon and get flak for it?
by speedchuck
Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:43 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

Been meaning to ask this for a while: Should I play mega man? Which games?
by speedchuck
Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:42 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

Kylemii wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:42 pm
speedchuck wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:36 pmQuestion the heck out of me please after this
are you having a good night?
Pretty good, yeah actually. We lynched scum, I went to a bible study, and I'm less sick than I was days ago. :P
by speedchuck
Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:38 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

Quin wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:37 pm
speedchuck wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:36 pm Question the heck out of me please after this, I'd rather not be lynched for being on the wrong side of history.
What kind of questions should I ask you?
Not that one.
by speedchuck
Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:36 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

Question the heck out of me please after this, I'd rather not be lynched for being on the wrong side of history.
by speedchuck
Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:35 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

Oh neat. Good job. Gives us something good to go forward.
by speedchuck
Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:45 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

DharmaHelper wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:17 pm
speedchuck wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:08 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:53 pm
speedchuck wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:49 pm
Turnip Head wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:46 pm DH might be bad, and honestly, why wouldn't he be? I just don't know if I'll have time to get him lynched. Life is so short compadres.
Priority replacements are often bad. :shrug2: But hey we're lynching Marmot.
:ponder:
Dizzy is in a different replacement tier altogether. She replaced someone who hasn't been here at all since before the game started.

You replaced one of the MANY that have talked but then stopped talking for whatever reason. Infected Alien wasn't near as egregious as Wilgy or Soneji, but somehow took priority anyway.

Is this angleshooting or something? Can't tell.
I dunno what angleshooting is so i'm either doing that or I'm not.
:srsnod: Same here.
by speedchuck
Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:08 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

DharmaHelper wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:53 pm
speedchuck wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:49 pm
Turnip Head wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:46 pm DH might be bad, and honestly, why wouldn't he be? I just don't know if I'll have time to get him lynched. Life is so short compadres.
Priority replacements are often bad. :shrug2: But hey we're lynching Marmot.
:ponder:
Dizzy is in a different replacement tier altogether. She replaced someone who hasn't been here at all since before the game started.

You replaced one of the MANY that have talked but then stopped talking for whatever reason. Infected Alien wasn't near as egregious as Wilgy or Soneji, but somehow took priority anyway.

Is this angleshooting or something? Can't tell.
by speedchuck
Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:49 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

Turnip Head wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:46 pm DH might be bad, and honestly, why wouldn't he be? I just don't know if I'll have time to get him lynched. Life is so short compadres.
Priority replacements are often bad. :shrug2: But hey we're lynching Marmot.
by speedchuck
Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:44 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

[mention]K-Ness[/mention] we have tons of role-talk for you at the moment!
by speedchuck
Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:59 am
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:46 am
DharmaHelper wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:49 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:47 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:41 pm "Hey I have an idea. I know we lynched ACTUALLY MEGA MAN Day 1 and then there were THREE NIGHT KILLS before the next lynch... but you know what would be fun? Voting for a guy we don't want to lynch and then fucking right the hell off forever."
Tone read scum. :keys:
I'm confirmed civ how dare u
Three games in a row now, the player who tries to demotivate the town has been scum. Js.
I'm conflicted. I completely agree with you, and yet have this strong drive to follow DH.

For the record though, I was a townie in firefly mafia, and I called our first scumlynch a 'fluke'. People didn't like that.
by speedchuck
Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:49 am
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

Marmot wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:05 am Conclusion:

I am town

Jack and sprityo are both scum.

Carry on. [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine
YOU SAID YOU'D TELL ME WHYY!
by speedchuck
Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:37 am
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

Catching up now. I haven't been on since 6 or so last night. DMing.
by speedchuck
Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:37 am
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

Quin wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:59 am @sprityo
@speedchuck

You both listed Wilgy as bad and Soneji as good in the GTH. Why?
Soneji because I feel like him being semi-gone is sorta normal, and because I had slammed down a TON of bads already. I didn't really have a feeling for him.

Wilgy because Wilgy - g = Wily.
by speedchuck
Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:28 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

I mean, Marmot IS known to self-vote. But he isn't.
by speedchuck
Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:28 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

Can [mention]Gemini Man[/mention] post?
by speedchuck
Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:48 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

DharmaHelper wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:41 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:29 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:23 pm Gemini Man's extra vote ever happen before?

To me, I wouldn't blow my load on a close lynch like that if it wasn't a last resort (Meaning if I hadn't exhausted all other options i.e my team wasn't already helping me out in the votes)
Why? A double vote is cheaper than a teammate sticking out their neck.
If it were me, I view it like this

1. Marmot as Gemini is an MVP for the team with his ability to double vote
2. Assuming it only works once, I would save it for a worst case rainy day type dealio.
3. If the vote was as close as it seems from the chatter I've been hearing, no harm no foul in teammates trying to push Simon over Marmot
4. Popping the Gemini vote suggests either Marmots team was already in on the Simon vote and they really really wanted him to stay up, or whoever was on his team but not on the Simon wagon would have fucked themselves and Marmot over if they switched.


If Marmot is bad it would've been smarter to cut bait or have a teammate or two do the push, rather than pop the Gemini vote (because now, if Marmot's bad, his utility to the team is null)
If Marmot is good, it would've been smarter to pop the Gemini vote because he knows he's good and he didn't know if Simon was.

But

Marmot attaching himself erroneously to the Luna lynch is the thing that's most stuck in my craw about the whole ordeal.
Point three is your problem.

The vote was 3 to 5. I'd freaking notice if Marmot AND ANOTHER PERSON OR TWO jumped on the lynch wagon. Gemini was only enough to tie the wagons there.

3 to 5 is close, but proportionally horridly far. Because this game is full of lurkers.
by speedchuck
Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:30 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

DharmaHelper wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:23 pm Gemini Man's extra vote ever happen before?

To me, I wouldn't blow my load on a close lynch like that if it wasn't a last resort (Meaning if I hadn't exhausted all other options i.e my team wasn't already helping me out in the votes)
On second thought...

This makes sense if Marmot is town and working with his power alone, but it also makes sense if Marmot is scum and just saw an opportunity to possibly push things forward a day phase without involving his teammates. He's gonna die and lose the power if he doesn't use it anyway.

Assuming that he's Gemini man, of course. If he's not, then... I wouldn't waste it to tie a lynch. Might not even do anything.
by speedchuck
Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:25 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

DharmaHelper wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:23 pm Gemini Man's extra vote ever happen before?

To me, I wouldn't blow my load on a close lynch like that if it wasn't a last resort (Meaning if I hadn't exhausted all other options i.e my team wasn't already helping me out in the votes)
Only gemini man vote on record.

Very good point.
by speedchuck
Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:15 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

DharmaHelper wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:10 pm Thought exercise: If Marmot is bad, is there any chance the Simon voters contain one or more teammates of his, and if so, who the hell?
I can't fathom Dizzy or Long Con being scum with Marmot and pulling that, frankly.
by speedchuck
Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:08 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

DharmaHelper wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:07 pm To me the smartest and most damning thing about Marmot is "Why bother tacking onto the Luna vote unless it's for cred"
Yeah that's basically it.
by speedchuck
Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:07 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:00 pm
Marmot wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:54 pm Because he tried to lynch Sloonei. Yes this is old news, but it's the limit of my recollection.

Honestly, I logged in the other day and freaked out because I was about to be lynched. But I probably shouldn't have posted when I did, hence why you guys didn't hear more from me. I didn't expect to survive the lynch either, that was a surprise to me.

Anyway, just checking in right now to say hi. But I'll be back to post more later on today, and I've got a bone to pick with you voters. :suspish:
Ladies and gentlemen, allow me to present to you “freaked out” Marmot.
Marmot wrote: Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:48 pmWait what?
Marmot wrote: Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:48 pm Sorry been busy with house projects the past couple days...
Marmot wrote: Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:50 pm Well that's cool. Enjoy lynching me.
(Silently votes Simon)
I'm gonna roll my eyes at this post. Hard.

Those quotes could absolutely be categorized as freaking out.
by speedchuck
Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:49 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

[mention]Quin[/mention] I also need to know more about your TH vote.
by speedchuck
Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:48 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

Okay.

Got a 'why' on Sprityo?
by speedchuck
Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:45 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

Marmot wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:41 pm
sprityo wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:16 am @Marmot why can’t you just playing the FREAKING GAME MAN!???? We need you!!!!
Sorry, I was busy over the weekend.

Also I shouldn't even have posted yesterday. :sigh:
It's cool, you're here now and we have a full day left.

What's the state of your head, you reads, etc.? Anything you can just dump into the thread while you have the chance?
by speedchuck
Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:29 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

Womnderful
by speedchuck
Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:23 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

Turnip Head wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:20 pm Are you actually being productive tho
That's a good question.

I was hoping to engage people today, but they all left shortly after I put together my first pseudo-ISO. You're the only person I can engage now.

Wanna do something productive?
by speedchuck
Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:17 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

It works.
by speedchuck
Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:50 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

Turnip Head wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:41 pm Yeah it's pretty "the bigger man" of me to indulge your questions when you didn't even bat an eye at my jabs during the GTH.
Did you want me to bat an eye?

I have a strategy that I use when I want to actually be productive in a mafia game. It's called "ignore all suspicion directed against me." Works pretty well. But if you have any specific questions (not barbs or stated accusations), I will address them.

I don't remember any questions, but I was in the middle of a GTH session.
by speedchuck
Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:38 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

Turnip Head wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:34 pm
speedchuck wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:18 pm @Turnip Head Say hypothetically that Marmot is town. What next?
Well I prolly feel like a dummy for a bit, and then I try to lynch speedchuck.
And in this hypothetical lynch, let's say I don't flip scum. What then?

(Please and thank you for indulging me)
by speedchuck
Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:18 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

[mention]Turnip Head[/mention] Say hypothetically that Marmot is town. What next?
by speedchuck
Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:03 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

Yeah see that laugh is scummy
by speedchuck
Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:53 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

sprityo wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:51 pm also the last thing you quoted where I menace shrug at you, you said it yourself that you've been kinda slimey these past few days.
That was a joke. I've been slimy. Scummy. Mucousy. Sweaty.

Sick.

I have no metric for whether I've actually acted like mafia or not. So why is Jack town in your GTH reads? And why aren't you working on coming to any conclusions on myself/Jack (I feel like he and I are kinda important to the state of the game)
by speedchuck
Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:26 pm
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

Okay, I might have a little more. Just a tiny bit.

SPRITYO READ TIME

Starting on D3 after Sprit stopped being like "hey buddy have some flowers", and also after the Luna lynch (which might be a mistake, but I added some notes at the bottom based on my memory.) Why start here? It was when I first got pinged.
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sprityo wrote: Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:33 am
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Long Con wrote: Sat Sep 29, 2018 12:03 am So, looking through sprityo's ISO, he's being ridiculously friendly, and really sticking to the schtick so far. I don't like it, it might be designed to disarm us and view him as a friend. Is that far-fetched?
sprityo wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:56 pm Friend sloonei, I want to believe in you, but im also having a hard time understanding how you go from defending yourself, to ISO walls, to text walls defending yourself again. The ISOs just cluttered my head trying to read through and I didnt necessarily see any congruent pattern/reason to them. But it looks like your hard work has paid off, your persistence on the truth has prevailed! It would appear though that the three voting you havent returned/wont return. I should see why theyre voting you, although i remember you saying yourself "nutella has provided why shes voting me" or something close to that. People are also talking about Eloh being suspicious but i cant recall anything shes said to be present really! Can someone just point to me exactly the post where Eloh is looking bad?
Just, this whole post... what the hell even is it? Read it through, and decide how much says absolutely nothing. And, for a single paragraph, it really jumps around in context, despite the confusing "But it looks like your hard work has paid off, your persistence on the truth has prevailed!" Like, is this a joke that I just am not getting?
sprityo wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:56 am
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Sloonei wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:19 am
MacDougall wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:05 am
Sloonei wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:42 pm I assumed Mac was just doing his usual antagonistic thing with me at first but now he seems to be sincerely riding the "everything Sloonei does is bad" train, I assume because it worked in Greece. But here it's all just fart butter and I wouldn't care about it one bit if it wasn't directed at me.

I'd prefer not to spend the rest of the phase defending myself though. Haters can hate. I'm a player, and players play.
There are several other people suspicious of you. You have been suspicious. Fart butter is a better description of your play than mine.
I refer only to your suspicion as fart butter. I’m not sure what its origins are or even what the main points are. You’ve just been highlighting posts of mine and saying “bad” because that worked in Ancient Greece. Nutella substantiated her read. LC did as well, even though I think part of that is a misunderstanding. Colin is bad. Jack’s a wildcard. You’re jusr dragging suspicion out of everything I say and it’s exhausting to try to address that at every point.

I stopped my analysis because i’m in school now and I have work to do and should also probably go to sleep at some point.
Nutella and LC substantiated their reads?

How much substantiation does a day 1 case require to not be fart butter?

Let's talk about Colin more because I agree with you.
Correction! mac has agreed with sloonei about colin and also has voiced a suspicion of eloh. although he just hasnt changed his vote either. how odd :shrug2:
This one gives me suspicious feelings. I feel like he should be whistling innocently at the end.
sprityo wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:46 pm
Dom wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:42 pm k
i also don't like eloh this game rn
you'll be in agreement with others once youre caught up! :clap:
Uncomfortable push of the Elohcin wagon. I just don't like it.
sprityo wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:05 pm
Elohcin wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:23 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:54 am
Long Con wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:52 am So, what are we dealing with here? Closed setup, and we don't even know which roles are on the bad team.

So, what is the method of catching someone on Day 1? Ask questions and hope someone slips up?
Create a whirlwind of a thread by facilitating maximal activity. Ask questions, make comments, and hurl accusations at every opportunity. The thread needs to be a pressured and even stressful environment.

I ain’t got no time fo’ dat today so y’all get busy.
So in other words, "y'all get started and get the dirty work done and I will come back in here before the vote and make my assessment on which bandwagon I should jump on." Sounds bad to me. My first accusation is on YOU. Not only just this post. But, this post was given at12:54am. You then go on posting frequently until 3:08am. That is over 2 hours. And you have no time to ask questions, make comments, hurl accusations? There was no opportunity for that? Then you must have slept or something because you came back in the early pm posting exactly 9 hours later. At 1:48pm you talk about what you will do once you feel like actually playing the game. Again, you post frequently for 1 hour (1:48pm-2:42pm) not really saying anything. I do NOT like Jay in Mega-Man, I do not like him, Sam-I-Am.

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@Jack - I always post early on and often. I just don't often say much game related crap because I am too busy trying to keep up with the reading in the little bit of time I have to devote to mafia.

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out of 7 posts this must be the one! :yay: I will say it looks forced, yes. nothing about this seems to flow smoothly.

Too many words. That is how i would see it. It looks suspicious yes, but eloh has now dropped off the radar. Do you interpret that as intentional or not?
These reasons are so subjective and weak. And finishing with the leading question... just ugly. I'm done, and I'm voting sprityo. [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

:haha:
The laugh struck me as just awful, tonewise, before I even read LC's post.
sprityo wrote: Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:54 am Let’s start with chuck and jack I’ve got them both in my “to do later” pile. I also think bullseye a town lean? I should go see where you’re finding your reasoning for having him red
Day freakin' four and you've got two of the only non-sloonei people that are often present in your to-do-laters? I get it when townies tunnel, but Sprit only started sorting us after Sloonei got nightkilled. It doesn't fit with his seemingly-genuine attitude toward the game.
Sloonei wrote: Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:10 pm
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Reiterating the main point of my sprityo suspicion:
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sprityo wrote: Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:50 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:26 pm But for now I get the sense of a baddie making a concerted effort to spin a case against an established suspect (me). I do not get the sense that sprit has carefully considered my position in any of my posts. Instead it feels to me like he just seized onto a suspicion that already existed and is using that as his authority to suspect me.

Can anyone else see that, or am I just being too defenice here?
Here's the unlikely scenario:

Sloonei is town, he gets pursued by mac who is not someone to back down off his intuition. Sloonei isnt lynch, much to mac's dismay. then during the night, mac still paints him as someone bad, essentially a guarantee he's gonna try to lynch sloonei on day2. He even goes as far as to taunt sloonei to kill him. Mafia kills mac and waits for someone to attack sloonei.

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so would mafia kill mac to blame sloonei? or would sloonei kill mac to take the pressure and focus off himself?
MacDougall wrote: Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:54 am
Sloonei wrote: Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:35 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:28 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:32 pm This is an even worse result than the Day 1 result.
You are so evil and villainous and it offends me that you survived day one.
Please move past this.
You are asking me to play the game in ignorance of all my intuition and instincts?

Just kill me. Dr Manhattan taking out Rorschach style.
Sloonei wrote: Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:27 am I can only think of myself, so I assumed Mac was killed to make me look bad.
This is part of a much longer post in which sprit responds to some previous accusations I had made. What I especially do not like in this post is his categorization of the hypothetical situation in which I would be town. He describes it as an " unlikely scenario", but the events he goes on to describe are A) not all that unusual and B) hardly involve me at all. My challenge to him was that he did not seem to be considering my side but was just pounding home an argument against me. This post only strengthened that feeling. His argument is about things going on around me, and he frames everything negatively against me. This is textbook tunneling. Given the context, in which I believed, and still believe, that I would have been a lynch priority for the mafia team, I take this to be more of a bad look than a good look for sprit.

I would like to hear more thoughts from him today. He has apparently held onto some of this suspicion despite Lunalee flipping scum. I don't recall him having much to say in other areas of the game.
Sloondawg had some suspicions for us as well.
sprityo wrote: Sat Sep 29, 2018 6:07 pm
Turnip Head wrote: Sat Sep 29, 2018 5:23 pm Good thoughts Sloon. Some I agree with, some I don't.
admittedly, I like it too. it's decent enough. Maybe you're not bad sloon. Just Maybe. MAYBE you made a careless post and I took it the wrong way. :shrug2:
This is after Sloon does a pretty detailed reading of the state of the game. Just... I don't know. I feel like if Sprit was genuinely considering dropping the read, he'd actually do something about all the very important shrugs in his readlist.
sprityo wrote: Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:04 pm part of me wants you guys to try to lynch me, to ultimately look like idiots and I get the last laugh

but we're still down on active players so I shouldnt be lazy like that.

I dont think anyone is able to replace in after dying anyways :shrug:
Don't like. I never like this kind of post.
sprityo wrote: Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:55 pm Fun fact: did you guys know I’ve only ever been night killed once? It was night one of blue velvet mafia

I’m just always lynched, it’s so weird. It’s like the inverse of JJJ
What is this even FOR? "Guys if you even suspect me a little that's normal, I only get lynched, not nightkilled. Townie me isn't townie enough." That's my line, Sprit. You can't use it.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:12 am
sprityo wrote: Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:33 am Also I don’t think it was brought up, but Simon obviously wasn’t the vig. We could GUESS that Jack is the big. And he used his power (or was forced to use his power) on colin maybe?

Jack, GTH would you have killed Colin after day 1 given the chance?
What kinda question is this?
That's a good freaking question.
Turnip Head wrote: Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:18 am
sprityo wrote: Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:26 am
Long Con wrote: Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:34 am The obvious plan, the probable popular plan, will be to lynch Marmot. Any discussion should consider that as a starting point.
Yes, then we can decide whether we have anything else reasonable to go off. If not we start removing the inactives. Choices on who to lynch from the inactives will give us more to go off of.
Going after inactives sounds like the quickest way to lose lol what's wrong with you. We can do better.
Or for him to win? (Not all of these are relevant and it weakens my case to quote them but I'm having fun.)
sprityo wrote: Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:29 pm we got like an hour and a half until day start i think. I'm going to sleep its 130 am

I can honestly not tell what the results of tonight are gonna be. But if theres a baddy amongst the "active" players. I have a gut read for sloonei and jack rn. speedchuck has been quieter than i'd like to admit lately. and I THINK I can trust LC. probably. Dizzy is Cool in my book, bullzeye is probably town. TH is a root vegetable. I wish Dom were here.
Is this like a scumread on Jack? What changed between here and the GTH?
sprityo wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:02 am What does the nightkill tell us besides what Quin said. The baddies have killed virtually everyone with a high post count. We know they’re not than likely have a syndicate regular on their team having targetted jay, then mac, Nutella, Sloonei.

The mafia team must be pretty cowardly if they’re hiding among the inactives. Purposefully trying to kill off everyone playing the game to easily secure lynched in their favor.

Either way we need to lynch marmot, in regards to Gemini man [VOTE: marmot] aubergine

Does the Sloonei nightkill clear anyone/make them look better.

I was honestly expecting dizzy with how town they’ve been acting. Mafia had a perfect setup to keep Sloonei alive so why now?
I'm viewing from in the tunnel, and can't decide whether this looks genuine or like the most fake thing ever.

"Nonsensical, Cowardly, mafia team. I insult their tactics. Pah! I am not one of them!"

Also this is a silly reason to lynch Marmot.
sprityo wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:05 am
speedchuck wrote: Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:50 pm
sprityo wrote: Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:29 pm we got like an hour and a half until day start i think. I'm going to sleep its 130 am

I can honestly not tell what the results of tonight are gonna be. But if theres a baddy amongst the "active" players. I have a gut read for sloonei and jack rn. speedchuck has been quieter than i'd like to admit lately. and I THINK I can trust LC. probably. Dizzy is Cool in my book, bullzeye is probably town. TH is a root vegetable. I wish Dom were here.
What is your gut read on jack and sloonei
You’re right I should make it jack and Speedchuck.

It’s if I had to pick two of the active players to be bad. I think it’s one or both of you
Seems like an arbitrary number I don't know how it influenced your reads. Why did I fill the snoolei spot? What's with Jack? I got nothing.
Sprityo has posted a ton and I don't know where he stands until he covers it up with the GTH later.
sprityo wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:13 am
Quin wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:12 am Hate that the Marmot lynch has become more about Gemini man than it is about his Luna interactions.
I think you’re right, I’m coming at this the wrong way
"Right, my bad, there are actual reasons. Forgot that we had some that weren't BS. Thanks my maybe-teammate!" All kidding aside, Sprit isn't w/w with Marmot IMO. Nothing about the way he treats this case is a bus.
sprityo wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:15 am We should do a GTH exercise, like in DFS if we get enough people in at once. That sounds like it’d be interesting
I like GTH exercises but I feel like scum are the ones to implement them most of the time.
sprityo wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:26 am Interesting Speedchuck isn’t in there Quin. Any reason?

I’m gonna iso him today. I have a bad feeling about him not being on my radar

Linki: Surely TH wouldn’t be that lowly? Then again he’s usually in here a lot more being goofy
Why do you keep shrugging menacingly at me? "I have a bad feeling about not reading speed." Yeah, me too mate.
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I feel like half of this is grasping at straws. My main complaint with Sprit is the flow of his play. The way he tunnels, puts things off, seems to lead the town while deflecting any deep personal reads or cases. "I'll get to speed eventually." "Gotta lynch Marmot for those reasons. The ones you said. No wait, those other ones." "The game state is like this right now I think." "What is scum players are killing for these reasons." The flow isn't great.

Nothing super concrete in the ISO except for the crackdown on Sloondawg, which I can't complain about. I was in the thick of that too.

Also I don't think Sprit was a terrible pick for a Luna teammate. Distanced from her, but also was after Sloonei (one of the opposing trains that day) a lot. Tried to convert Luna's death into some other cases we now know are dead ends. Belittled any suspicion of him.

That's all I got.

... Who's next?
by speedchuck
Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:18 pm
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Topic: Mega Man Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

sprityo wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:17 pm I dont have a case against you speed, i have gut suspicions, but no case
Oh.

Right back atcha fam. But yeah, I'll accept gut suspicions. Makes sense. I've been pretty slimy for the past few days.
by speedchuck
Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:15 pm
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Topic: Mega Man Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Night 2]

sprityo wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:00 am
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speedchuck wrote: Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:26 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:17 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:26 pm I can’t jusge this impartially right now, so I need others to offer their input:
Mac’s primary activity on Day 1 was to smear me. He did other things and made lots of noise, but I don’t think it’s unfair to say that I was his #1 suspect.

Mac was subsequently nightkilled. My instinct was to look out for people who would then turn that kill against me. I expressed this early in the day.

sprityo, who hadn’t touched me all game, then comes along to declare me his top suspect because I had expressed my theory about potentially being framed by Mac’s death. I don’t think it was at all unreasonable for me to feel that way, and I’d have no reason not to share that opinion with the thread. sprityo, however, suggests that there’s “no reason” for me to share it if I’m town. I don’t buy that part especially.

What’s more, he hasn’t identified anything in Mac’s suspicion against me that he agrees with. I’d like to see him at least try to do that. But for now I get the sense of a baddie making a concerted effort to spin a case against an established suspect (me). I do not get the sense that sprit has carefully considered my position in any of my posts. Instead it feels to me like he just seized onto a suspicion that already existed and is using that as his authority to suspect me.

Can anyone else see that, or am I just being too defenice here?
Does he need to carefully consider all angles? His accusation is pretty clear and simple. Didn't you also say that Mac had no real reason to suspect you? How would Sprit agree with something that isn't really there? (If you didn't say this, then my mistake, but I seem to remember something like that, you complaining that Mac didn't really have a reason). You're setting up tasks to players who suspect you. Who do you believe is mafia?
Holy crap on a crap sandwich, how had I not noticed that?

Sloondawg trying to tear apart the case, taking full advantage of Mac's absence and unsupported intuition. Nobody can suspect him based on Mac, because mac died before substantiating. Killing Mac early would be super beneficial because of that, and clever as heckll. Now if we point to the Mac read, he can just ask "Why though?" Genius (If he did it).

Find this odd because i KNOW i said something about mac not having any suspicions when i first talked to sloonei. idk why chuck made a big deal about it then.
Side note: Hope this isn't part of your case against me, Sprit, because you MAJOR misinterpreted this post.
by speedchuck
Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:46 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Mega Man Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Mega Man Mafia [Day 5]

sprityo wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:43 am Right, you didn’t even quote the part where he tried some weird counter wagon on me?
Technically that's not a Luna interaction. (which I vaguely pointed him at)

If you want DH to get the case, SHOW IT TO HIM

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