And I can hardly catch up because of juicy claims stuff.
linki: someone else?
linki2: thing?
linki3: INTERSTING!?
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That sounds like a terrible idea in a role madness game.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:28 pm Okay can I have character claims from everyone?
No reason why. Story curiosities. They’re completely randomized.
I’m Lucy.
Or Turnip HeadMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:23 pmAnd you are creating a narrative that doesn't exist.Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:15 pmyeah 'cause even you don't like it and by not placing a real vote you're not contributing to the vc
it's like you're withholding your voice when it matters
Try this one instead: in the middle of a dead thread where you hadn't posted in a long while, I voted you as I felt someone amongst the non-talkers was a scum. You did not make your appearance until much later. In the time since, I've been online twice: once where I focused on the wagon that I woke up to find on me, and now where I am ISOing a few of the other wagon options before re-evaluating my reads.
Why aren't you harassing TS or Epi for their single-wagon votes?
I mean. He explained the townread on TSP.Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:56 pm you ever gonna change your vote radishes?
why am i met with so much resistance when it comes to voting tsp?
The target of the vote.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:39 pmThat's...completely subjective and therefore useless.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:26 pm Here's a fun one: A readlist based only on people's current votes:
Good votes - MacDougall, Sloonei, Funnygurl, ts account, Epignosis
Not Good Votes - Turnip Head, Master Radishes, Long Con, TSP, Ted
The spread is 2/2/2/2/1/1/1. How did you decide whose vote was good and whose was bad?
What's the difference between this and TSP?MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:17 am Turnip Head having 0 votes in this vote spread is curious. If he were town one would think scum would find his button a satisfying resting place.
Qualify this. What would MR be scum with TH?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:43 am If MR is scum they're scum with TH I think. FG said in one of her longer posts that that was unlikely. Conclusion: not scum?
Yeah I'd mark him as scummy.Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:55 amhe had some reasons for suspecting me but it didn't warrant his voting me yesterdayspeedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:50 am Actually TSP doesn't have a single read on me in his ISO that is accompanied by reasons.
Does he have reasons for anyone else?
i think he's scummy do you think he's scummy?
What does this even mean?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:06 amSpeed on probability aloneSloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:11 amNow go the other way. Strongest suspect?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:10 amMac is town.Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:38 amwhat is the strongest read you have on a player in this game right now, either town or mafia?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:34 am Teds at two votes from GoC teammates with one against
I think this is the basis of my townread on him, yeahMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:01 am Tedxtr has demonstrated that his wolf game is better than what it would have to be for him to be wolf here.
That doesn't quite fit LC's position, I suppose.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:38 pmI did. I did it in order to project a townie "fuck y'all then" mindset.speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:08 pmDoes that make the difference to you (assuming that he did)?Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:03 pmThis did not happen. Mac might have self-voted at some point in the middle of a day, but he never left it there as a final vote.speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:00 pm Okay forgive me if my memory is playing tricks on me but didn't Mac self-vote as mafia just last game? Then survived that day? And was scum?
It's the self-votes that survive, those are the scummy ones.
@MacDougall If you would indulge me, did you self vote in LC's game and why?
This first post is free, fun, and has a lot of unnecessary verbiage. In other words, it's comfortable.
Or this:Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:52 amFalse dichotomy.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:47 amHave you know counters to my points about you?Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:45 amI haven't felt like myself lately...speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:34 am Assassin's creed has people in the modern day going into a matrix-like thing and reliving the lives of assassins of the past to gain skillz.
Maybe nutella and JJJ are like a templar and an assassin from the future and they're in our heads right now, living our lives, making our posts.
For a full 24 hours of the ISO, LC plays low and quiet and without any ease to his tone. The posts there don't have much to say, either. Only later in the day (after I've thrown some shade) does LC loosen up, and the posts he makes there are a good mech of his style. Reactive, inquisitive, comfortable, content-ful. I'm not quoting the whole ISO, just skim it. There's some good stuff.Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:15 pmDid speedchuck even give a reason?
Did Dragomir even respond to my criticism of his suspicion?
30% is the self-vote, 30% is his early response to suspicion, and the other 40 percent is the stuff in between. LC is like a sandwich with good filling and moldy bread.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:10 pmCare to explain in the simplest terms possible so we all have it moving forward? The thread is silent, we can put forth any ideas we want.speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:07 pmMaybe 60%? I'm not married to it, but I also think it bears talking about.
Epignosis is actually three skeletors in a trench coat.
In a game with role madness, I'm more interested in the end result. Maybe mafia has a doublevoter and they wanted to run a gambit. Even then it's within one vote, but it's different.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:12 pmI mean, I don’t think Long Con is mafia in this instance, so I don’t follow this premise to the same conclusion as you regardless.speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:08 pmDoes that make the difference to you (assuming that he did)?Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:03 pmThis did not happen. Mac might have self-voted at some point in the middle of a day, but he never left it there as a final vote.speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:00 pm Okay forgive me if my memory is playing tricks on me but didn't Mac self-vote as mafia just last game? Then survived that day? And was scum?
It's the self-votes that survive, those are the scummy ones.
@MacDougall If you would indulge me, did you self vote in LC's game and why?
But also yes, there’s a clear difference. A self-vote in the middle of the day is purely for show. It means nothing in the end. A self-vote that remains in place tells us that self-sacrifice was a legitimate possibility for the player. Or at least it would appear so on the surface.
Does that make the difference to you (assuming that he did)?Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:03 pmThis did not happen. Mac might have self-voted at some point in the middle of a day, but he never left it there as a final vote.speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:00 pm Okay forgive me if my memory is playing tricks on me but didn't Mac self-vote as mafia just last game? Then survived that day? And was scum?
It's the self-votes that survive, those are the scummy ones.
Potential to be scum with Long Con there. Like she doesn't like the gambit and she's begrudgingly using it to turn his gamble into a strong townread.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:51 pmYou got a read on the funny gal?speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:43 pmI've never seen an appeal to hypothetical emotion before.Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:27 am think about it: if you had a team and you had a pretty good shot of lasting the phase BUT YOU VOTED YOURSELF how would your team feel?
idk man there'd be rage, RAGE. wolves have more of a responsibility to live.
ok yeah i guess wolves could self vote at eod like that but if you do that then you're just bad. and like i don't like to call ppl bad, but like if you do that as a wolf then you deserve it
Or at least, not one quite like this.
I've never seen an appeal to hypothetical emotion before.Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:27 am think about it: if you had a team and you had a pretty good shot of lasting the phase BUT YOU VOTED YOURSELF how would your team feel?
idk man there'd be rage, RAGE. wolves have more of a responsibility to live.
ok yeah i guess wolves could self vote at eod like that but if you do that then you're just bad. and like i don't like to call ppl bad, but like if you do that as a wolf then you deserve it
You've got this nailed down to a POE of 5 on D1 and you aren't comfortable voting?Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:56 pm Its gonna be hard for me to participate in these remaining hours. I'm quite busy right now so EoD activity is a no go from my side.
My reads right now still have LC as scum but it's not as strong as before. Leetic has creeped up in my scum reads, but it's not very strong either. My reasons don't felt good enough to support a vote on him and I have had a couple mindmelds with him. His defense against my recent accusations were just as well.
Speedchuck is probably my strongest scum read atm doubt that's not saying much as it's still kinda weak, just barely above the other two. I don't think I'll be voting anybody for this phase.
My town reads, on the other hand, are quite strong. max, Sloonei, and FG are the highest; all three equal with each other. Turnip Head, TS, Ted, and Epi follow behind.
Radish and TSP are my remaining null reads.
If not TH...Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:56 pm ok speeds here.
if not th then which person would you also wanna see die? I dont disagree with your th analysis but the wagon coming out of nowhere along with your sudden endorsement of it is sketchy
I've accused people of fluff posting all the way back to my first game on this site, and before that. It's not an uncommon thing for me to try and catch people out on, especially D1.
Unlike you, I don't waste my time restating suspicions that others have already stated perfectly well.Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:37 pmI saw that. You still didn't explain what was wrong with his post but instead his energy drop.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:13 amNope. I expanded later.Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:02 amThis was a pretty flat read. You basically did: "that post was bad for LC. So I vote LC now."(iirc you did vote for him after this post right?)speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:55 amHis third post and initial vote for Sloonei are pretty bad. I agree with that.
Not much else to look at.
There's no expansion. It's basic read that you can generate on anybody. It doesn't feel genuine. Add this to the pile for why Speedchuck is scum.
They are fluff posts disguised as content. There is little to no content to make up for them. That is the basis of my suspicion.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:29 pmYes. I slot TH into a lightish green level. The posts of his you quoted could very much be read either way, and just saying 'this is bad' is not showing me why you think they came from a scum mindset more than a town one.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:28 pmDo you disagree with it?Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:26 pmOh, guess I missed that, sorry.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:24 pmI started the TH wagon. There was either 1 or 0 votes when I got there.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:19 am *What's up with Speedchuk piling on the TH wagon by selecting a few TH posts and saying 'This is bad' to each? It looked like work, but it wasn't much work, and it essentially just served to nudge the wagon along, like he wanted it to gain more momentum.
Still don't like your 'analysis' of it, though.
Do you disagree with it?Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:26 pmOh, guess I missed that, sorry.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:24 pmI started the TH wagon. There was either 1 or 0 votes when I got there.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:19 am *What's up with Speedchuk piling on the TH wagon by selecting a few TH posts and saying 'This is bad' to each? It looked like work, but it wasn't much work, and it essentially just served to nudge the wagon along, like he wanted it to gain more momentum.
Still don't like your 'analysis' of it, though.
I started the TH wagon. There was either 1 or 0 votes when I got there.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:19 am *What's up with Speedchuk piling on the TH wagon by selecting a few TH posts and saying 'This is bad' to each? It looked like work, but it wasn't much work, and it essentially just served to nudge the wagon along, like he wanted it to gain more momentum.
Did I ever suspect you this game? I don't think I did. You're reverse tunneling a bit here.tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:25 am speedchuck -
Tbh his ISO left me uninspired and his last post with the readslist is like "Yeah so we lost ted as a lynching option, I'm gonna put LC at null and keep TH scum as those are two viable wagons"
I get that the last 2 people (except for leetic) are being analysed based on pre-flip. Individually, I really have no idea what speedchuck is, could be anything. He does read more...tense? I guess?
Really? He seems completely different to me.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:19 pmconvince me on the gal and the ted. I've seen nothing from ted that would be incompatible with the version of him we just played with in the goc.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:18 pm I'd rate my confidence on Sloonei, Tedxtr, TS Account and Funnygirl being town, right at this second, as 9.9/10 on all four. So it'd be nice if y'all spent the time to find each other so we can dominate this shit.
There is no point. I see it as an avoidance of providing a direct answer. Evasive. Do you not see it that way?Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:46 amI don't get how speedchuck didn't get the point of this.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:38 amI don't get the point of this.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:36 amWhich one do you think I meant? If you had to guess![]()
Nope. I expanded later.Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:02 amThis was a pretty flat read. You basically did: "that post was bad for LC. So I vote LC now."(iirc you did vote for him after this post right?)speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:55 amHis third post and initial vote for Sloonei are pretty bad. I agree with that.
Not much else to look at.
There's no expansion. It's basic read that you can generate on anybody. It doesn't feel genuine. Add this to the pile for why Speedchuck is scum.
Mac, Ted, ts account town. TH scum. LC back around null. Those are the ones I've been gnawing on.Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:49 pmHey speed, do you have any reads? Ever since you came back online you made several posts lacking substance.
Caring about the roof as a tell for... caring about the roof.Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:36 pmWhat is?speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:43 pmThis is the best terminology to come out of a mafia game ever.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:44 pmIn other words Dragomir doesn't care about the roof.ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:11 pmTownies usually have preferred outcomes and push toward those, whereas Dragomir's tone is the inverse and seems to be guiding people away from their unfavorable outcomes. It is something either alignment could do, but here I am leaning it wolf.Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:07 pmWhat's wrong with wanting that? Civilians should want that.ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:39 pm Right now the way you are behaving gives me the sense you want to be in control for the EOD, and all I can say is that does not make me feel so good about you. I do not think I would hang you today, however.
This bad.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:11 pm I'm not really considering it seriously, just entertaining a reality where it exists
This bad.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:36 amWhich one do you think I meant? If you had to guess![]()
This bad.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:24 pm Something is wrong with Long Con. He doesn't usually play with this tight of a grip. Like a rattlesnake getting all coiled up. He often gets suspected early and I'm one of the first to rush to his defense because I recognize his town game but this is off-meta for him and I think he knows it
This bad.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:36 am Epi is bringing an unnecessarily hostile tone to an otherwise reasonable thread, idk what that means really just an observation