The Syndicate

There's probably at least one scum between JOH, JJJ, Strawhenge, and Golden, but I'm gonna wait until I have a little more info to try to ferret that out. The amount of anti-alignment in these is palpable, in my eyes. I will also be looking at this later in the day. Is there a particular reason you...

Dyslexicon gave us a subtle fakeslip that I, Golden, JJJ, Strawhenge, Long Con, and a few others argued vehemently about. Lots of reads to go about there. What was your argument in all this? Who agreed/disagreed with you? I saw Dyslexicon's fake slip but didn't dig into all the discussion it spurre...

Quin, you reminded me of something I found interesting at the time. Why did no one put down the hammer on sig? It would have been easy to justify given dizzy was essentially asking someone to. I feel like this could be noteworthy. Eg, did anyone express suspicion of sig but hold back from the hamme...

Because I am impatient with myself: http://eagle-time.com/showthread.php?tid=824 This game had a janitor-ish role in it. I got janitored at a point, and everyone assumed me to be scum. I was town, as was revealed later. Hopefully we'll learn more about the good doctor later? @Silver Lantern You bein...

Oh, and I have info but I'm not sure how to use it. Wait till someone contradicts it then nail them to the wall. :D @Sorshakiller/Sloonei: D1: Four people claimed the map that we were given N0. Discussion occured. INH conflated the mappers with the directions on the poll and made a bit of a hubbub....

Or it might be his role to hide it. I'm saying that -------- is not his role/alignment. :P

That would make sense if this was a vig. Wilgy does not seem like a good mafia kill target.

insertnamehere wrote:Who the flip are the hyphens?

Maybe a mafia Janitor of some sort?

I ran into one in city slickers, I think.

Basically, someone is probably nefariously hiding the man's alignment. It's not his role, I don't think.

Welp. I'm here to watch the party start.

OH CRAP THERE'S AN ITEM TO VOTE TONIGHT WHO WANTS IT

Quin wrote:sig is starting to feel like a runaway wagon.

On the one hand, duh, there's an hour left in the day and people want to commit.

On the other hand, yay, stuff to analyze tomorrow morning!

NO DOWNSIDES, LET'S RUN WITH IT YEAH

I have no issue with any of those four lynches, though the idea of a Chinese Fire Drill scares me. Dizzy, I'll give you full disclosure: I am 100% certain that you did not really slip, whether town or scum. I also think that most of the townreads on you didn't come from that, but from towny play lat...

Eh, good point. D1 for a CF setup wouldn't be the worst time for a no lynch.

The MYLO thing wouldn't work, though. Who knows how many deaths can happen in a night

remove vote/unvote: Dyslexicon , cause I really don't like that a dude with 2 posts is voting for him at this hour of the game. Dudette. That's why I always post in gender neutral pronouns. I try to do so as well. So, the no lynch: Some places will no lynch D1 for beginning info, or will no lynch w...

Sorsha claimed they wouldn't read the whole thread, but didn't come when summoned. You used the wrong incantation, maybe brush up on your Latin :p I've asked to be replaced, I can't keep up with one game let alone two. Good luck! Cool, there is a replacement listed. Best of luck with your other gam...

Anyone read my ISO of Long Con? Comments? Concerns? Questions? It was good. Made me feel better about you, worse about him. Not enough to try to introduce a new wagon D1. That's the big problem, and most of the talkers are gone right now. Certainly Long Con could be on the chopping block for D2 gri...

VOTE SIG

I've got a couple more hours, at least. Might be able to pop in just before deadline, or I might not. Looks like people are looking to lynch: Sig Sorsha DrWilgy I think. Somewhere somebody said that Wigly's aggravated post seemed like something he would do as town. Lots of focus on SIG lately. Sorsh...

Just moved back to North-East. I know I'm a bit wishy-washy on the vote, but I have more townreads on NE right now than on E. I trust that part of the mob more.

My avatar is the alchemical symbol for Caput Mortuum, or worthless remains. So maybe the non descript feeling you're getting is subliminal knowledge of ancient alchemical symbols Maybe I should change ethereal avatar to have more popular like that seizure inducing Dale Cooper avatar. It would actua...

EY, FREDWOOD! You were the first player I responded to! And many other times too. You just don't have the most memorable username/avatar. My apologies. Why does anyone suspect Fredwood? His posts seem pretty constructive, his reaction to the Dizzy debacle was great, and up until the recent complaint...

Strawhenge wrote:Dang it, I haven't given any thought to the direction. Who has the map? Or is claiming to?

To my knowledge, JJJ, Marmot, and Sig, but there is another. I forget who and I'm in the middle of a Fredwood ISO

At the moment I could vote for anyone among Sorsha, DrWilgy, and sig. They've all been prodded, and they've all appeared to offer nothing. I am a bit concerned though that Wilgy's comment about lynching him affecting the way we perceive his meta was genuine though, because I could see Wilgy being t...

To be clear, you like me better than JJJ because you think I'm more town? Or you like me better for a noose? More town. And thanks for the heads up, Silver Lantern. Will keep that in mind when evaluating JJJ/JOH. I can't remember for sure, but did someone here recently switch votes in the poll from...

Here are some of the people that have been in recent scumreads: Fredwood Sig Strawhenge Sorsha LC Nacho Me :) DrWilgy Scotty Marmot JackofHearts/JJJ? They seem possibly suspicious toward one another. Not w/w at the least. I'd have to trust others concerning Wigly's usual D1 play. As a matter of fact...

I'm assuming w/w means that they are scumbuddies, and thus w/w means they are not knowingly aligned? I need to know more terms from here. w/w is wolf/wolf aka scumbuddies. They'd know they are aligned. I mean, the concept is based upon them knowing. So if I say LC and Dizzy aren't w/w, that means t...

EBWOP: And I completely agree about there being better ways to get reactions. Hence the sarcasm color.

Linki: An ISO is isolating a player's posts. That is, you might say you think Silver is bad on day 1 and Silver is good on day 2 with no significant Silver posts and no posts from you about Silver in between. I wouldn't notice normally but if I took your posts outside of the game and saw that you s...

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Half rainbow:
Some players defending Dizzy made them go up. Some players defending Dizzy made them go down. Same for players attacking Dizzy. A lot of this is based on HOW they attacked or defended.

Dang.

Dizzy, you magnificient bastard. Your plan worked.

Dizzy has not been under enough pressure to force a claim. Claims are a last-ditch effort to avoid lynch. We haven't gotten that close to lynching him. (or anyone, and we probably need to get there) So yeah, I get the idea, but no, it's a weird reason for SL to vote. As with all of their other vote...

Dizzy's slip options: B. The slip was on purpose to win town points. Option B is viable, though a stupid strategy, as we see how well that went. I literally just said that B was a viable scum move. C is not really a good town move. It wasn't a great play. Wasn't a good mafia move either. My point w...

Dangit UNVOTE

Dizzy's slip options: A. The slip was an accident. Dizzy covered it up by finding an example from a previous game. B. The slip was on purpose to win town points. C. The slip was on purpose, to cause an uproar on D1 and provide actual discussion, as a sacrificial catalyst. AKA For Teh LOLs Option B ...

Deadline is in about 10 hours, I think.

We need to get 6 votes on a single person to guarantee a lynch. Preferably more.

We might want to talk about who we should vote to receive the new area's gift tonight, while we square the lynch away.

Also as a note, I doubt Dizzy would feel the need to claim unless we had him above softlynch, which is currently 6 votes. Probably even up to eight votes. Also note: In this game, it would do literally no good. This is a CF game. Role claims are probably garbage. A third of us probably have role cla...

Dizzy's slip options: A. The slip was an accident. Dizzy covered it up by finding an example from a previous game. B. The slip was on purpose to win town points. C. The slip was on purpose, to cause an uproar on D1 and provide actual discussion, as a sacrificial catalyst. AKA For Teh LOLs In option ...

Can I compile a basically definitive proof as to why Dizzy's 'slip' was not a real mafia slip? I'm tired of people pretending it is. If you want to lynch him for his behavior afterwards, then fine. I get that. But I'm off to construct a beautiful argument that consolidates all of the arguments that ...

Dys has not power claimed, right? Change vote: Dyslexicon Tell me more about this expectation. Though I shouldn't make a habit of speaking for others (it always makes me look bad, even if we're both town and even if I'm disagreeing), I'll field this. It is very common for HCRealms lynches to revolv...

Feeling less shiny about JJJ than before the Golden argument, honestly. Still not enough for a scumread. I'm not sure whether I'm voting Strawhenge because of his broken logic or me actually thinking he's scum. He's basically fabricated information from a different mafia game to justify his weird su...

Regarding my read, JJJ:

Don't flatter me. You and Golden weren't arguing about me, but about each other. I even butted in early and clarified some things, and was basically ignored. That HUGE tangent was on you two.

Given you had read the thread through this far and should know that I'd explained at least part of my rationale for why I hadn't voted yet - how do you come to a legitimate vote for me later? I have no real excuse. The first post was part of a quick 12-page skim, the second was a post just looking ...

It wouldn't be a brilliant scum play as there is no true benefit for Dys in doing it, while it had a strong chance of getting them lynched with the hammer vote in place. Let's be clear that Dys is not getting town cred for his fake slip, proving that it was just that only removes him from the obvio...

This is where I think you're expecting too much of speedchuck in terms of his interpretive ability to judge your post on the fly. Also, I'm suffering some kind of regression where recent posts keep vanishing on my work PC, so apologies for however that might affect things today. It's always all thi...

Why the aloofness? Why not say it was a fake slip right away when people started voting and calling it out? I believe in somebody acting poorly under pressure (even self-created pressure) more than the number of coincidences the slip requires. I've already called out the aloofness as being crappy, ...

And the game he said it in had information in the OP of how many scum there were. *runs off to investigate* Strawhenge I don't see it, please help . Discrepancy between number of player pairs and role powers. It's 6, and I tried to find where there might have been a scum caught, but that website is...

Golden wrote: I do think it is alignment neutral. I am not giving him civ cred for it, but i do think that it was conclusively intentional.

This is about where I am as well.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Strawhenge wrote:And the game he said it in had information in the OP of how many scum there were.
*runs off to investigate*

I could not find any indication. I read the OP, then searched for '5' and 'five'.

Can I change my vote on the poll?

I think the value of changeable votes is in late-phase maneuvering, not in pressure. Townies lose a lot of their ability to cooperate if they're stuck with just one vote all day. That's just Mafia theory though, don't mind me. :grin: "Do we have enough support to lynch this guy, or are too man...

This is what a real slip looks like. Even without you catching up, this is plainly misrepresentative. You clipped half of my post - the half that said 'if the original post doesn't say the number of mafia'. And what I did was go back and read the original post for myself. Unless by 'does nothing ab...

Response to Dyslexicon: 5. Most importantly: your response to the 'slip'. Your initial responses read as aloof, as if to laughingly blame us for misreading an obvious and dumb mistake. You insisted that you weren't dumb enough to make such a mistake--something backed up by Jay, who said that not ev...

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