The Syndicate

Oh, Harvest is probably the place. I get it. Then we just need to know the stats.

Me too.

I'd buy anything, if I knew what we needed.

Nice.

[mention]Golden[/mention] Just a little info would be nice. If night ends before we get our money, and the store updates, and Golden gives us the mission info, I'm gonna riot.

I already had 150 anyway.

I'll buy something once the shop updates. Preferably something I can use tonight in case I DIE.

What do you mean by Harvest, [mention]Golden[/mention]?

Cool.

What's the job, @[mention]Golden[/mention] ?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:55 pm So speedchuck you think nutella has just ruthlessly bussed her teammates?

If she is the bussy type then that would make TH town right?

Who else has nutella been antagonistic towards?

In FE Nutella was bussing the whole game. With vitriol even. I thinking it is possible.

Given that, she's probably not scum with TH. Defending a townie, like I oft do.

Dunno. On phone ATM, if alive will cover that tomorrow

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 22, 2018 5:55 pm I dint have a huge reason to think he is a civ tbh. He is one of the more pro-active players I know and hes kind of aloot in this game (I rememver in GoC he was at odds with Epi but nothing here).

He was pretty active and contributory earlier, like D1/D2 stuff? Would explain why his whole team is scum.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 22, 2018 5:28 pm If DH is bad it's probably a good idea to say it there anyway so other crewmembers are not caught off-guard.

And if he's good he has to say it there.

At the time, we could only buy items during the day.

I don't really have any thoughts about it.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 43#p477240

Found it

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:35 pm In case that ain't obvious that post was a joke, I don't care about reactions myself unless they actually happen to look fake.

Iirc we caught a baddie DF for that once in a game.

Yeah, if it's like

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:30 pm I hate stupid expectations like 'you should react to the lynch'. It's less so now but there was a time when, scum or town, I refused to react to lynches because it's such a fake thing to do.

I just do it anyway.

Now that I've calmed down, I don't think Nutella and TH are super likely as scumbuddies. Because if they were, Nutella would be doing the opposite of protecting him.

If she's scum, she's likely doing the "ardently defend a townie" thing for the brownie points.

I'm just not seeing it with Nutella. I've gone back through her ISO, and if I had a vig, I'd use it on her without further thought.

Actually I take that back. Gonna have to be iffy on DDL too.

DFaraday
DharmaHelper
Dragon D. Luffy
Epignosis
Glorfindel
Golden
insertnamehere
Mac 2.0
nutella
Juliets
speedchuck
Turnip Head

Assuming Mac is right about Nutella, this is the world we live in.
And these are the hands we're given.
Use them and let's start trying
to make it a place worth living in.

I'll look back and see if I see what you see about Nutella/Enrique not being w/w.

I'd have 650 more dollars, but I used them to protect Mac last night.

Apparently I should've waited.

I cannot tell you how much it irks me that nutella is above me in that list.

I need to sleep on it.

For the record, I was only ever on Nutella and Enrique all day. I have consistently desired to lynch them over anyone else. My vote never once went to Golden or DDL.
Normally, I wouldn't defend myself, but gah nutella's been married to TH and to doubtcasting and blah I'm going to bed.

Read my posts over the day if you think otherwise.

I look great.

If we spend 1150 on the mission, is it really worth it?

I'm a hired gun bro. Yay.

We can pool my 150 with another hundred to get that tasty +1 from the store.

linki: only 150 here dude

Gimme 100 dollars and I can make that 5 attack by buying the pistol

I have 4 attack, nothing else.

Oop, nevermind, I gave it to Golden.

I had to get rid of it to make a big purchase. *sigh*

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:16 pm I am gonna take the difficult job I think, mostly because I think that this ship is full of people who just became damn near unlynchable as a result of that lynch so we might as well go for the big job right?

Sounds good to me.

I think I gave you a knife earlier? Hope we hit a combat mission.

I'm not getting lynched. I refuse.

But you make a good point.

Unless you have something for me in the next few minutes

linki: I dunno, I pretty much called the entire scumteam, pretty sure. They might kill me.
But you were the final push, so IDK.

Yesssssss!

My GTH list from near EOD stands. I don't mind talking about it, in case I die tonight. And vice versa.

But for now, bed.

I'm all geared up for attacking, not this diplomacy jazz.

But I'm giving plus two anyway, apparently, so that's swell.

Or we could just wait for day

I think I'll ignore everything up to this point in N4 and start fresh.

I don't think it matters who would go on the poll. None of the four of us are in danger of getting lynched. It doesn't matter tonight especially. We'll all be on the poll tomorrow.

Mac, Golden, I've been breezing through your posts in the game. There are... quite a few of them. Since we can see no new posts from suspects at the moment, it might be a good idea to narrow down your suspicions. Campaign for them. If you want people to agree that DDL, or Enrique, or TH, or whoever is bad, the best option is to state the case as concisely as possible.

I have a general idea of why these people are suspicious, but if you asked me to point to a specific action, I'd say it was lost in the flood. While the game is 'paused', it might be good to change that. Ready up supa-posts. Just a suggestion.

I haven't been in the lead as much with the case-making because some deadlines at work got moved up from End-of-September to Wednesday. But I want to engage with your cases and ideas without the thread drowning us out. Glorf too, I don't suspect you but I want some solid perspectives and hunting rather than opinions about the crews and mechanics.

I'll do what I can. I think this is the best use of our night. Thoughts? Cases?

I'm pretty sure Nutella is town. Meta-wise she matches up almost exactly, without seeming forced.

Agree with DDL on Colin.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:07 pm Btw as much as a do trust this group... we need to be careful about talking about buying items that can be easily circumvented if the mafia knows who has them.

Yeah, if I was buying an alignment check, I'd say nothing.

Ooh, with Luna, that gives us +7 attack the next time we get an attack mission.

Should I buy anything to bolster my attack more? I was thinking:

Burgess' Hovering Badass Space Jeep - $450 - +2 Attack for as long as the player holds it

With this and my knife, I can add plus five to an attack mission if one comes up

I want opinions on Mac and TH.

IDGAF about Enrique.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:21 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:54 pm I'll be looking at that dayend lynch. I was hoping it'd move from Wilgy, as I was getting good vibes.

Looks like a lot more happened.

TH CFD, followed by Enrique CFD, followed by Wilgy CFD.

I am partly to blame for the later two tbh.

Yeah, that does look pretty bad.

I'll be looking at that dayend lynch. I was hoping it'd move from Wilgy, as I was getting good vibes.

Looks like a lot more happened.

And I grabbed a knife in case it was attack

What a waste.

Also, what do you guys think of my new signature, huh? Informative now, isn't it?

Most of that was said for others' benefit.

I hope you are town, Golden. Because if you were scum, it would have probably been better for you not to be captain. Extra scrutiny and all that.

James 3:1
My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.

I'm not getting lynched. I don't care if I go on the poll.

All I'm saying is that my crew loyalty (which I've already stated, is not spectacular. I don't mutiny, but I don't care if I get fired) is completely trumped by my town loyalty. And it should be that way for everyone.

I am certain Glorf is town.
I lean town on Golden, and on Kylemii, and maybe even DDL.
Marmot...

Keep in mind, Golden. As captain, you are responsible for protecting the towniest of your crew. But if for example Marmot falls under suspicion, and you can't defend him with words, don't defend him with mechanics. I know this is obvious, but we're here to lynch scum. Our ship is less likely than the others to contain scum, IMO, but it still may have one or even two.

And the captains, if town, have an obligation not to inhibit lynching scum.

We are a BTSC crew, not a team. The teams are town and scum.

tl;dr I don't care to inhibit the town's ability to lynch scum.

Pfffff

As if any of us are getting lynched.

Keeping the team off the lynch poll is almost anti-town unless you KNOW someone is town that you're saving. And even then, if you know it, others should too.

Throw me on the lynch poll every day, I don't have a crap.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:00 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:52 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:15 pm Who is the fugitive? Me?

Matthew 26:25
Judas, who would betray him, answered, “Is it I, Rabbi?” He said to him, “You have said so.”

We didn't have a fugitive last night. We should ask about that.

Yes we did. It’s Simon Tam aka glorf.

Ah.

And ditto Glorf. Someone tries to lynch you, and I'll sock 'em I will

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:15 pm Who is the fugitive? Me?

Matthew 26:25
Judas, who would betray him, answered, “Is it I, Rabbi?” He said to him, “You have said so.”

We didn't have a fugitive last night. We should ask about that.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:32 am So if the criterium is "people who are likely to fear Soneji", the biggest suspects would be nova and Epi (and myself too lol). And maaaybe Owner.

Is Soneji to be feared? I haven't seen much of them. Hadn't considered that angle.

Observations (purely about votes):

Luna was a suspect all day. DDL was suspected early, I think. Luna and Wilgy were tied for lynch near dayend, but in the last hour or so, things swung heavily toward SQ.

Basic vote analysis. Seeing how Epi, Colin, and Golden clung to Wilgy, I would say there's a good chance of scum on that wagon. The votes were somewhat wasted, but switching to Luna to save SQ would look awful, and switching to SQ would as well. (Yes, I know I'm making assumptions like crazy. This is not a case. This is thoughts.)
The idea of there being a scum on the Wilgy wagon would fit very well with my nightkill analysis. A no-poster was killed last night. This may indicate a player that cares about the health of the game. I would wager that at least Golden and Epi care about the game health. Colin... maybe.
This reflects poorest on Epi.

I would also say there is at least one more scum on the Luna wagon. Possibly two. Granted, I think she's town. I'm not convinced, but I feel it.

If there is scum on the SQ wagon, they likely joined late. VERY late. I could see TH yolo-ing it. Kylemii was the last to join, and... it's hard to see that being a scum-motivated action. Nobody would have blamed him for staying where he was.
DH's final post on D2 about that is... interesting. I don't know what level of WIFOM he is capable of, but saying Kyle's vote was the "wrong choice" before results...

SQ'a wagon is made of a bunch of misfits, scumspects, and low posters. WTF. Once again, this reaffirms that someone with a stronger voice in this game is quite possibly scum. I hope it isn't Golden or DH.

(I still have a light townread on you BTW Golden, I'm not looking for a defense with all this)

Any insight from the past day or so, DDL?