The Syndicate

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:43 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:39 pm well the post really reads like you protected mac so probably redirected?

if the flavor post were to indicate night actions, i personally would be upset cause thats bogus, it offers the mafia insight on what has happened, thats the point of flavor, its for enjoyment. not to indicate actual game actions

That's 100% not how it's played on HCRealms (home site of Jack and I). A good mod won't make things super obvious, but writeups definitely can contain hints as to night actions.

Arglebargle.

[VOTE: Dr. Wilgy] aubergine

For mac.

Also I'm down following the JJJ plan [mention]MacDougall[/mention] [mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention]

I also think his POE suggestion was good. If we can cross off likely civs that should help find mafia. FWIW this is why I think he was pushing the 'easy' lynched.

(Also that term is kinda stupid because if they were easy how come we haven't actually lynched any of them?)

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:46 am

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:42 am

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:57 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:34 am @lapluie sorry if i missed it, did you ever tell us about the results of your latest thief check?

What the heck does that even mean, idek anything about this game im jist blindly playing it

....your night power.... hopefully you've been using it??

OK, something that I have never been full clear about, but I assumed because no one else was talking about it. I want to know for sure I have this right.

There are classes, there are backstories, there are countries, and there are alignments. Together, these four things make your role. Is that apt?

Everyone's classes are public, and it's not all that debatable who is what.

Backstories are secondary secret role conditions. Some grant an extra power, others alter the player's interaction with the game slightly (I'm option B). Anyone can make up any backstory they like. Backstories can be identical, but not to people of the same class.

Countries. Not everyone knows their country. All baddies are from Badguyia, but not all from Badguyia are bad. This information does not coordinate in any game-meaningful way with the first post factions, because then we'd be Civ-clearing all the green ones and lynching sig, lapluie, and gwil.

Alignment is what matters most, and there are two.

...so is that all accurate?

Yes, this is all my understanding, with the possible exception of the underlined. I'm assuming you mean since backstories are secret anybody could fakeclaim one? Mafia are given the backstory their role would've had if town. Afaik all backstories were just a secret part of the roles, fixed at the beginning of the game.

town rn

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:37 pm Let's lynch Marmot tomorrow

Your ideas intrigue me and I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter (or at least learn why marmot).

Alternatively, both of y'all could talk to [mention]Spacedaisy[/mention] instead of being dicks, since she was kind enough to be mod on duty for this game.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:17 pm So guys.

Why is Colonialbob bad?

He's not.

So 24 roles, 5 civs dead, 5 mafia, that leaves civs 14-5, 13-5 after tonight assuming just a mafia kill.

Problem is, of course, plurality lynches mean mafia can do significant damage with those numbers, but I think they're still high enough that they can't just take over. But we do really need to catch one tomorrow.

Speedchuck could also have been misdirected? That would only explain it if he got redirected to another ID voter.

Ugh, non-obvious vote manipulation. :/

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:26 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:17 pm @speedchuck who did you target last night?

Last night, I votestole.

Does it matter whose?

Yes, I'm aware.

Why would it not?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:38 pm colonialbob any idea why I failed to misdirect you last night?

Nope.

[mention]speedchuck[/mention] who did you target last night?

Feeling kinda glad I ended up sitting EoD out. (Deadline was way earlier than I thought.)

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:22 pm My ability is just that if I vote for anti-town (or a few of the other roles, but neither Jay or I_D is one of them), my vote counts for two. So yes.

Point of order, I think your role also refers to backgrounds, not just roles.

Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:16 pm I was referring to nutella holding off, probably waiting to see which bandwagon wins out.

How does this jive with her lapluie vote yesterday?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:32 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:52 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 6:20 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 6:08 pm I feel like we are in a pseudo lylo. No dead mafia by day 3 means its time for a different approach.

In a game this big?

There is a point where town still has a positive ratio but mafia's numbers are good enough they can shut down every civ power and maybe add a few points of vote power to themselves.

Good luck lynching mafia now unless you can pull major feats in scumhunting.

How many scum do you think there are? Does it say anywhere?

There's 5 generals, so I'm assuming 5.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:23 pm I'll give thoughts when I find them (feel free to link them).

Still 6 more pages of Day 2 to read. I'll be in and out as I make my catchup.


And also, hi colonialbob. How are you?

No, I'll let you read naturally. If you don't make it closer to EoD I'll link.

Overworked and underappreciated. And houses are expensive. But otherwise I'm doing alright. How about you?

Marmot, I addressed those votes. Your thoughts on my response?

You're right though, you did make a case on me (one I disagree with strongly, but it was at least a case).

The fact that lapluie didn't respond whatsoever to her nutella case being debunked solidifies my read of her as mafia.

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:03 am Marmot, Kenway, Iron Dwarf, rundontwalk, Long Con.

These are my guesses for scum.

If you want to elaborate on any/all of those I'd be interested in reading it.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:47 am leaves the thread for 4 days





still numba 1

in post count and in our hearts

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:20 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:18 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:13 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:06 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:04 am Have some opinions:

Good guys:

Spoiler: show

MacDougall, Kylemii, sig, lapluie, Kites

Bad guys:

Spoiler: show

JaggedJimmyJay, rundontwalk

Being careful not to buddy me, I see.

You almost made the good pile.

Spoiler: show

But you didn't.

I wish I could be there for real. Is Bob even still hosting?

Bob's dead, mate. Bob's dead.

Am not!

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:54 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:51 pm @rundontwalk what’s your suspicion on cbob?

I read his last two pages of his ISO and there’s nothing damning that he’s said. Nothing to point to mafia behavior because it would seem he’s been on the defensive as of recent.

I don't understand why he's alive

If he knew he wouldn't die then maybe that post of his after the supposed lynch where he lamented having a great town role could be some kickass wifom

That's not a case for me being bad.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:00 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:50 pm

lapluie wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:05 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:12 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:11 am

sig wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:09 am Who pushed this lap cfd

Mostly jay but I fully supported it as well. I think cbob and white are likely civ and I think lap is likely mafia.

If you think lap is mafia why did the rest of us only have 10 minutes under duress to make a call on it?

Right..? This is what I don't understand, nutella would do anything for an easy lynch to save herself, got fresher fish to fry & as I've been absent they'd take full advantage of that.

lapluie wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:18 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:48 pm AUBERGINE

[6] nutella - MacDougall, gwilikers6, dunya, ColinIsCool, rundontwalk, JaggedJimmyJay
[2] Epignosis - Kites, Iron_Dwarf
[6] Quin - Dragon D. Luffy, nutella, , colonialbob, Marmot, Kylemii, Long Con
[1] rabbit8 - sig
[1] ColinIsCool - Epignosis
[1] Kylemii - TonyStarkPrime
[1] TonyStarkPrime - Kenway
[1] dunya - DrWilgy

No vote: Dr. White, lapluie, Quin, rabbit8, sprityo

colonialbob yep she was.

Yeah the first post was from d2 while the vote count is from d1. Nutella was never in danger yesterday. Your argument is terrible.

Is she scum for it?

It's such an easily debunked argument that I want to say no, but I could see a scum who hadn't read the whole thread getting excited about making a case and not double checking their timestamps. It makes me think scum.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:53 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:39 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:25 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:56 am

sig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:52 pm Lap isn't a high poster, however after playing a few games with her I'm reading her as civ. I also really dislike the cfd onto her. I think it was an attempt to save bob who should be lynched post haste tomorrow.

Why not just vig me then?

sig

Still sig

I answered this didn't I?

Wilgy was a better target, we get more info from lynching you plus town was very divided on you so I figured it was better to leave it up to mob rule.

Why was Wilgy a better target?

lapluie wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:05 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:12 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:11 am

sig wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:09 am Who pushed this lap cfd

Mostly jay but I fully supported it as well. I think cbob and white are likely civ and I think lap is likely mafia.

If you think lap is mafia why did the rest of us only have 10 minutes under duress to make a call on it?

Right..? This is what I don't understand, nutella would do anything for an easy lynch to save herself, got fresher fish to fry & as I've been absent they'd take full advantage of that.

lapluie wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:18 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:48 pm AUBERGINE

[6] nutella - MacDougall, gwilikers6, dunya, ColinIsCool, rundontwalk, JaggedJimmyJay
[2] Epignosis - Kites, Iron_Dwarf
[6] Quin - Dragon D. Luffy, nutella, , colonialbob, Marmot, Kylemii, Long Con
[1] rabbit8 - sig
[1] ColinIsCool - Epignosis
[1] Kylemii - TonyStarkPrime
[1] TonyStarkPrime - Kenway
[1] dunya - DrWilgy

No vote: Dr. White, lapluie, Quin, rabbit8, sprityo

colonialbob yep she was.

Yeah the first post was from d2 while the vote count is from d1. Nutella was never in danger yesterday. Your argument is terrible.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:25 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:56 am

sig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:52 pm Lap isn't a high poster, however after playing a few games with her I'm reading her as civ. I also really dislike the cfd onto her. I think it was an attempt to save bob who should be lynched post haste tomorrow.

Why not just vig me then?

sig

Still [mention]sig[/mention]

Re: iron_dwarf

His Epi bashing didn't sit right with me, I never really understood why his disagreement with the exercise translated to Epi being scum. He then backed off that d2, before going back n2 after the EoD craziness.

I don't like the "nutella is opportunistic" criticism, it's very vague and just seems to be echoing other suspicions. If true, show your work.

His previous post about Sig not being mafia because of his power makes no sense and he hasn't addressed my questioning of it.

His pressure on RDW clearly indicates he missed some of the discussion between RDW and JJJ, which could be mafia looking for an easy excuse to park their vote.

He was one of the people who voted me early and never provided a case on me despite my repeated asking for one.

All that said, after the ISO a lot of the posting I didn't agree with war how he defended himself against the draft argument (which was a totally valid argument). However, Dr. White being town means that defense isn't necessarily scummy, poor as it is.

Overall I still lean negative on him but it's less strong than before the Dr. White flip.

Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:30 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:55 am

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:50 am This was my exact result btw: “**f*** *m ** - s*g”

I was drunk last night and working now so I haven’t put the slightest effort into decoding it. Have at it.

Soften 'em up. It corroborates I think Kites (?) who said they boosted sig's kill chance. I obviously didn't do that, so you were misdirected or something.

Sounds plausible and for me this means Kites is probably town. Can't imagine sig with his ability is scum.

What?

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:30 pm Can someone just quickly tell me what sig is accused of getting caught in a lie about. I’m not quite understanding.

Getting MDed when he was a flier and so the only MDs that could hit him are other fliers, and iirc the 2 Pegasus knights were both not MDers last night.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:56 am

sig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:52 pm Lap isn't a high poster, however after playing a few games with her I'm reading her as civ. I also really dislike the cfd onto her. I think it was an attempt to save bob who should be lynched post haste tomorrow.

Why not just vig me then?

[mention]sig[/mention]

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:38 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:15 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:36 am How is Sig not misdirectable when pegasus knights exist?

I'm stupid. The pegasi didn't misdirect today.

Still don't think this is enough to indict Sig tho. But I suppose it's enough to nullify the effect of the fact nobody would pick Sig and bring him back to the neutral pile.

But apparently i was picked. And i think ppl woild seeing how I've got like a super dangerous kill power;)

This is a witch hunt with no good reasoning and a class old school try to lynch sig for stupid shit which is what scum lc does.

Alsp sprits vote is just plain dumb he "joke" voted me yesterday but today now it's real sure.

This is a mafia attempt to save a teammate just like yesterday's wagon on lap.

This is a bad argument, nobody is being 'saved' this early in the phase.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:52 pm Lap isn't a high poster, however after playing a few games with her I'm reading her as civ. I also really dislike the cfd onto her. I think it was an attempt to save bob who should be lynched post haste tomorrow.

Why not just vig me then?

lapluie wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:05 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:12 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:11 am

sig wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:09 am Who pushed this lap cfd

Mostly jay but I fully supported it as well. I think cbob and white are likely civ and I think lap is likely mafia.

If you think lap is mafia why did the rest of us only have 10 minutes under duress to make a call on it?

Right..? This is what I don't understand, nutella would do anything for an easy lynch to save herself, got fresher fish to fry & as I've been absent they'd take full advantage of that.

Wait what, nutella wasn't in danger...

Here's the other thing about mafia sig: why Colin? Afaik nobody really suspected him, and Mac and I also have roleblock capabilities. Feel like a kill of me, iron dwarf, lapluie, or quin would've been much easier to justify.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:28 pm There are fourteen hundred secret powers in play. Stop acting like you caught somebody because of known powers. Get the fuck out of here with that shit.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:17 pm Y'all it's D3 in gametime and the initial post was over 2 weeks ago so I'm not buying any more "idk how the rules to this game work" posts anymore.

EBWOP

Oh god the shame

*seppuku*

Y'all it's D3 in gametime and the initial post was over 2 weeks ago so I'm not buying anymore "idk how the rules to this game work" posts anymore.

I feel good starting here

[VOTE: iron_dwarf] aubergine

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:00 pm @nutella @Quin @MacDougall @colonialbob @Iron_Dwarf

did any of you move or remove my target last night?

No sah.

Still waiting for somebody to make an actual case on me.

Boss is probably related to my mercenary group, fwiw.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:55 pm @colonialbob any idea what happened/how you survived?

Nope, wasn't anything I did.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:02 am What a goddamn clown fiesta of an EOD

mislynched twice
at this rate i'll be invicible when i finally roll mafia

I also have the best civ role of the three imo. :/

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:57 am Not voting to lynch someone who isn't gonna leave juicy teammate interactions

but you voted me tho

[VOTE: lapluie] aubergine for self-pres, if it still matters

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:55 am

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:53 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:52 am [VOTE: cbob] aubergine

y tho

Less u more white is obviously a civ. No hard feelings.

lapluie?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:52 am [VOTE: cbob] aubergine

y tho