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by colonialbob
Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:03 pm
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

Quin wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:40 pm
timmer wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:31 pm I thought I saw an epig vote mixed in there, maybe I misread?

I guess what I'm stuck on is... why not leave your vote on sig, who you seem pretty strong on, relative to it being day 1, WHILE you talk up other candidates?
Don't you weaken your own ideas by removing your vote from your #1 guy? You and me both know that a number of people will show up in the last few hours and vote with little thought, and they will do so using the current votes as a sort of weaksauce guide.
For Sloonei, this is a waste of town's greatest asset. Their vote. Sloonei throwing his vote around with varying degrees of seriousness is not something I think is scum indicative for him.

I'm not caught up but this has been "Quin sticks his nose where it doesn't belong and make a fool of himself doing so". Tune in next time.
Good look for Quin.
by colonialbob
Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:27 pm
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

Enrique wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:07 pm [VOTE: Enrique] aubergine
Bold strategy Cotton, let's see if it pays off for him
by colonialbob
Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:12 pm
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

timmer wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:05 pm
colonialbob wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:55 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:58 am I didn’t say what I voted for but it was the Become More, sorry.

I like Epi’s post re: DDL’s role speculation.
This was the main ping. Up to this point he had asked a mechanics question and said he voted for the N0 poll randomly. His first engagement with the actual game was to say he liked Epi's post on DDL, with no elaboration or follow up. Since I was going to be out of pocket all day, I figured I would rather have my vote out there and doing something than locked up tight and useless, so I voted. I didn't want to say my reason, because it gives him an easy out if he's mafia to make the suspicion go away. I wanted to see a response not based on my suspicion, and sure enough I got it. Not giving a reason also sort of forces people who jump on the wagon to supply their own reasoning, rather than just saying "yep I agree." D1 I think that's particularly valuable.
Apparently people liking Epig's posts becomse a thing people notice :grin:

I'm curious about this line of reasoning. It's early Day 1, someone liked someone else's post, and you vote them to await their response, but... like, what response would you expect? I feel like this is a similar thing to me n Sloonei last night, sometimes a guy just likes a post, right? So... what response to your vote would have made you back off of him, vs. what response to your vote would have solidified him as a baddie and left your vote in place?
Generally, hunting. Also tone response to a pressure vote can be interesting. The first response ("bruh") actually made me feel a little better, since it is relatively light-hearted, but then the no u and particularly the DDL vote turned that around. I know a couple people have said "two obvious to be mafia" but idk man if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck. What's the civ reason for making that play there?

You should also know I am generally a vote early vote often kinda guy, so it's not like I expect every vote I make to be the one that breaks something open. Sometimes you just throw a bunch of lines in the water and hope one of them hits. Right now my looks like I might've gotten lucky on the first cast.
by colonialbob
Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:03 pm
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

juliets wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:00 pm
colonialbob wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:55 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:58 am I didn’t say what I voted for but it was the Become More, sorry.

I like Epi’s post re: DDL’s role speculation.
This was the main ping. Up to this point he had asked a mechanics question and said he voted for the N0 poll randomly. His first engagement with the actual game was to say he liked Epi's post on DDL, with no elaboration or follow up. Since I was going to be out of pocket all day, I figured I would rather have my vote out there and doing something than locked up tight and useless, so I voted. I didn't want to say my reason, because it gives him an easy out if he's mafia to make the suspicion go away. I wanted to see a response not based on my suspicion, and sure enough I got it. Not giving a reason also sort of forces people who jump on the wagon to supply their own reasoning, rather than just saying "yep I agree." D1 I think that's particularly valuable.
OK, thanks c-bob. Also, did you notice if this is the post when Colin voted DDL?
Nope this was before that. I voted Colin, he "no u's" me (jokingly I think) and then swaps to DDL. I believe Sloonei voted Colin before the DDL vote as well.
by colonialbob
Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:56 pm
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

timmer wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:34 pm What is cbob generally like? I don't think I know him.
Top bloke
by colonialbob
Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:55 pm
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

ColinIsCool wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:58 am I didn’t say what I voted for but it was the Become More, sorry.

I like Epi’s post re: DDL’s role speculation.
This was the main ping. Up to this point he had asked a mechanics question and said he voted for the N0 poll randomly. His first engagement with the actual game was to say he liked Epi's post on DDL, with no elaboration or follow up. Since I was going to be out of pocket all day, I figured I would rather have my vote out there and doing something than locked up tight and useless, so I voted. I didn't want to say my reason, because it gives him an easy out if he's mafia to make the suspicion go away. I wanted to see a response not based on my suspicion, and sure enough I got it. Not giving a reason also sort of forces people who jump on the wagon to supply their own reasoning, rather than just saying "yep I agree." D1 I think that's particularly valuable.
by colonialbob
Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:50 pm
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

juliets wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:44 pm colonialbob please see your earlier post below. Colin said he probably won't be here today so I'm suggestion you clarify for us what "something specific" means in your post.

colonialbob wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:17 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:40 pm Anyway I've ranked the people who have currently voted from most to least suspicious as of me typing this post without being linkied into any other votes:


Cbob - "His posting" is a funny but ultimately hollow and wormy way to explain the Colin vote
Chuck - Did not give a reason for his DDL vote which IIRC came close to if not directly after Epi said he'd be voting DDL. Chuck pulling up to the train station early AF to save himself a seat.
Sloonei - Voting for anyone based on other people's reasons for suspecting people is suspicious to me. Make your own points. Stand on your own ground.
TH - Early vote for Sorsha for a hollow, funny reason. Doesn't look serious. Sorsha's not done anything overtly suspicious. Could be buddying/distancing but not worth losing my shit over instantly.
Epi - His DDL vote makes sense, he gave a good reason and was consistent.
There's something specific that led to my vote but I don't want to share yet because I'd rather see how he handles the pressure

So far: not great, bob
Sure. Give me a second to go find the post.
by colonialbob
Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:49 pm
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

DharmaHelper wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:21 pm Gonna vote either Cbob or Sloonei tbh
Your support of Colin is noted
by colonialbob
Sun Dec 09, 2018 12:09 pm
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

colonialbob wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:01 am
Sloonei wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:22 am
Spoiler: show
DharmaHelper wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:05 am
Sloonei wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:01 am
timmer wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:56 am Just reread it. You say you have a case but then the next sentences are all qualifiers and concerns about side angles which serve to weaken it. You spend more time on the side stuff that concern you about it than your actual suspicion. I don't know how else to explain your post to you, lol. I'm heading to bed, g'night. Hopefully you will see things clearly soon.
I said I have a suspicion, but that I also have reservations about the way Colin is being treated in the thread. If it’s messy, it’s because my thought process is unsettled. Because it’s Day 1. You’ve lamented yourself how difficult Day 1 often is. I wasn’t distracted from my suspicion on Colin. I was simply discussing it within the context of the game. I then laid out my case in another post shortly after, but you’re not looking at that because it’s not included in Epi’s (intentionally) bullshit case.
To what end do you think Epignosis has fabricated this case against you?
He does things like this often. I don't care to speculate on why I think he's doing this or what his motivations could be, but I've seen him employ fake reads as a civilian too many times to be upset by it. It's upsetting that you guys are listening to him though.

I can give evidence in support of my belief that he's full of bologna though. First, let's establish that Epignosis is not a frivolous mafia player. He is calculated and clever, and puts real, honest, sincere thought into the things that he does regardless of his alignment. Now let's look at the case that he made. It starts here:
Epignosis wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:18 am
Sloonei wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:14 am
Epignosis wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:10 am What mafia member says, "You know what? I'm going to plop a lazy third vote down on DDL early on in the day and draw attention to myself! That's a great idea!"

Lock civilian.
a careless one

this is not my primary concern about colin anyway.
You're the one who is bad.
Short, impulsive declaration of the read. Okay. Nothing too strong yet, but this isn't the most severe introduction to a case I've ever seen from him.
Epignosis wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:23 am Sloonei is so bad.
This is where he starts to get a bit loosey goosey (read: not serious, frivolous). This type of post is more at home in Macdougall's ISO, not Epi's. He's just stirring a pot.
Epignosis wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:23 am I am about to dismantle you in front of your peers. Are you ready?
Colorful and playful banter. Yeah, this is not serious business Epi.
Epignosis wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:28 am
Sloonei wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:07 am I've added another town read to my list.

I have a genuine Day 1 suspicion of Colin, but am I little anxious about the ease with which his case gained momentum. His post about bandwagonining DDL is patented shady-nasty business, but I don't know how to feel about the seemingly exaggerated scrutiny it's received. Then again, there's also the fact that we have two scum teams. It's entirely possible for scum to pile on an easy bandwagon that ends up being correct. I'd like for Colin to say things. I'll lay out my own gripes against them so he has more variety to respond to. I was voting for Colin before it was cool, after all.
You qualified your suspicion of Colin as "genuine." If you are a civilian, what else could it be? Why is the adjective necessary?

I know people will roll their eyes, but someone literally did this in the Mafia Universe game I was in, and I backed off on it, and the mafia won.

Fuck that. Fuck adverbs and adjectives and adjuncts.

The bottom line is that you started out with telling us your suspicion of Colin is genuine, but then you talked about how anxious you feel about other people agreeing that he's bad.

After that you have to talk about two bad teams. Who the fuck cares?

Voting Sloonei.
This is the case. This is a very narrow-minded case from Epignosis. Yes, he picks at linguistic oddities from time to time, but that's the only typical Epignosis characteristic in this post. I believe he knows exactly what I meant when I qualified my Colin read. I also don't believe he's suspicious of a person for expressing reservations about a Day 1 read. Epignosis, serious Epignosis, understands that Day 1 reads are fluid, unsettled, and changing. He might have a little bit of suspicion against me. He does not have "Sloonei is so bad, I'm going to dismantle him" level of suspicion. Certainly not 24 hours into a game.
Epignosis wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:38 am
Sloonei wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:33 am
Epignosis wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:28 am
Sloonei wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:07 am I've added another town read to my list.

I have a genuine Day 1 suspicion of Colin, but am I little anxious about the ease with which his case gained momentum. His post about bandwagonining DDL is patented shady-nasty business, but I don't know how to feel about the seemingly exaggerated scrutiny it's received. Then again, there's also the fact that we have two scum teams. It's entirely possible for scum to pile on an easy bandwagon that ends up being correct. I'd like for Colin to say things. I'll lay out my own gripes against them so he has more variety to respond to. I was voting for Colin before it was cool, after all.
You qualified your suspicion of Colin as "genuine." If you are a civilian, what else could it be? Why is the adjective necessary?

I know people will roll their eyes, but someone literally did this in the Mafia Universe game I was in, and I backed off on it, and the mafia won.

Fuck that. Fuck adverbs and adjectives and adjuncts.

The bottom line is that you started out with telling us your suspicion of Colin is genuine, but then you talked about how anxious you feel about other people agreeing that he's bad.

After that you have to talk about two bad teams. Who the fuck cares?

Voting Sloonei.
"Genuine" because the first play in the Day 1 Sloonei playbook is to throw crap at the wall and see what sticks. Case in point: My Tranq vote which I just talked about in my previous post. Or, you know, any other game I've ever played on the Syndicate. I clarified that my Colin suspicion is genuine to iterate that this is more than just pot-stirring. My vote is on him because I actually find things he's said to be suspicious, not solely because I want to make people respond to my vote being on him.
If your suspicion of Colin was true, none of the red shit I highlighted would logically follow. If you truly believe Colin is bad you wouldn't care if other people think so too (in fact, you should welcome it), you wouldn't care how many teams there are (who gives a shit?) and you wouldn't care if bad guys lynch other bad guys.

You are bad. This is obvious to me.
The bullshit alarms are sounding all over this post, but I don't care. This post presents my read as if all Day 1 reads should be black and white. "If you believe Colin is bad you wouldn't care if other people think so too, as if everything that is happening here is in its own little vacuum and my read should be concretely settled because I believe in it. He then reaffirms how "obvious" it is that I am bad as if any of this stuff holds weight, or as if he'd really be so sure this early in a game. This is not a sincere case from Epginosis.

Epi is my strongest town read in the game.
Sloonbeard, I like the cut of your jib, but I don't love this post. If Epi is doing an epi thing and manufacturing a case, doesn't calling it out like this undermine whatever he is trying to accomplish?
[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] thoughts? Kind of needs the context to understand though
by colonialbob
Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:07 am
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:15 am I kind of agree with Epi on Colin. His post voting on me is beyond terrible. So terrible I have to wonder why a mafia would make it. Feels like a classic "too bad to be bad" case.
Blech
by colonialbob
Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:06 am
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

sabie12 wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:15 am I do see some valid points on the case against sloonei but I also can see that as a playstyle thing. It's been awhile since I've been here but I know sometimes people just go in guns blazing and start accusing people and get the conversation going. It's not my thing but some people are good at that.
Also just wondering why if someone is a top poster they shouldn't be voted for. Just in the sense that they do get people talking and a conversation happening?
What are the valid points you see?
by colonialbob
Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:04 am
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

Sloonei wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:37 am
nutella wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:36 am #StopSuspectingPeopleForThinkingInShadesOfGrey2k19
I can get behind this campaign.
With a paddle?

#2018shadesofgrey
by colonialbob
Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:01 am
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

Sloonei wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:22 am
Spoiler: show
DharmaHelper wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:05 am
Sloonei wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:01 am
timmer wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:56 am Just reread it. You say you have a case but then the next sentences are all qualifiers and concerns about side angles which serve to weaken it. You spend more time on the side stuff that concern you about it than your actual suspicion. I don't know how else to explain your post to you, lol. I'm heading to bed, g'night. Hopefully you will see things clearly soon.
I said I have a suspicion, but that I also have reservations about the way Colin is being treated in the thread. If it’s messy, it’s because my thought process is unsettled. Because it’s Day 1. You’ve lamented yourself how difficult Day 1 often is. I wasn’t distracted from my suspicion on Colin. I was simply discussing it within the context of the game. I then laid out my case in another post shortly after, but you’re not looking at that because it’s not included in Epi’s (intentionally) bullshit case.
To what end do you think Epignosis has fabricated this case against you?
He does things like this often. I don't care to speculate on why I think he's doing this or what his motivations could be, but I've seen him employ fake reads as a civilian too many times to be upset by it. It's upsetting that you guys are listening to him though.

I can give evidence in support of my belief that he's full of bologna though. First, let's establish that Epignosis is not a frivolous mafia player. He is calculated and clever, and puts real, honest, sincere thought into the things that he does regardless of his alignment. Now let's look at the case that he made. It starts here:
Epignosis wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:18 am
Sloonei wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:14 am
Epignosis wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:10 am What mafia member says, "You know what? I'm going to plop a lazy third vote down on DDL early on in the day and draw attention to myself! That's a great idea!"

Lock civilian.
a careless one

this is not my primary concern about colin anyway.
You're the one who is bad.
Short, impulsive declaration of the read. Okay. Nothing too strong yet, but this isn't the most severe introduction to a case I've ever seen from him.
Epignosis wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:23 am Sloonei is so bad.
This is where he starts to get a bit loosey goosey (read: not serious, frivolous). This type of post is more at home in Macdougall's ISO, not Epi's. He's just stirring a pot.
Epignosis wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:23 am I am about to dismantle you in front of your peers. Are you ready?
Colorful and playful banter. Yeah, this is not serious business Epi.
Epignosis wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:28 am
Sloonei wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:07 am I've added another town read to my list.

I have a genuine Day 1 suspicion of Colin, but am I little anxious about the ease with which his case gained momentum. His post about bandwagonining DDL is patented shady-nasty business, but I don't know how to feel about the seemingly exaggerated scrutiny it's received. Then again, there's also the fact that we have two scum teams. It's entirely possible for scum to pile on an easy bandwagon that ends up being correct. I'd like for Colin to say things. I'll lay out my own gripes against them so he has more variety to respond to. I was voting for Colin before it was cool, after all.
You qualified your suspicion of Colin as "genuine." If you are a civilian, what else could it be? Why is the adjective necessary?

I know people will roll their eyes, but someone literally did this in the Mafia Universe game I was in, and I backed off on it, and the mafia won.

Fuck that. Fuck adverbs and adjectives and adjuncts.

The bottom line is that you started out with telling us your suspicion of Colin is genuine, but then you talked about how anxious you feel about other people agreeing that he's bad.

After that you have to talk about two bad teams. Who the fuck cares?

Voting Sloonei.
This is the case. This is a very narrow-minded case from Epignosis. Yes, he picks at linguistic oddities from time to time, but that's the only typical Epignosis characteristic in this post. I believe he knows exactly what I meant when I qualified my Colin read. I also don't believe he's suspicious of a person for expressing reservations about a Day 1 read. Epignosis, serious Epignosis, understands that Day 1 reads are fluid, unsettled, and changing. He might have a little bit of suspicion against me. He does not have "Sloonei is so bad, I'm going to dismantle him" level of suspicion. Certainly not 24 hours into a game.
Epignosis wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:38 am
Sloonei wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:33 am
Epignosis wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:28 am
Sloonei wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:07 am I've added another town read to my list.

I have a genuine Day 1 suspicion of Colin, but am I little anxious about the ease with which his case gained momentum. His post about bandwagonining DDL is patented shady-nasty business, but I don't know how to feel about the seemingly exaggerated scrutiny it's received. Then again, there's also the fact that we have two scum teams. It's entirely possible for scum to pile on an easy bandwagon that ends up being correct. I'd like for Colin to say things. I'll lay out my own gripes against them so he has more variety to respond to. I was voting for Colin before it was cool, after all.
You qualified your suspicion of Colin as "genuine." If you are a civilian, what else could it be? Why is the adjective necessary?

I know people will roll their eyes, but someone literally did this in the Mafia Universe game I was in, and I backed off on it, and the mafia won.

Fuck that. Fuck adverbs and adjectives and adjuncts.

The bottom line is that you started out with telling us your suspicion of Colin is genuine, but then you talked about how anxious you feel about other people agreeing that he's bad.

After that you have to talk about two bad teams. Who the fuck cares?

Voting Sloonei.
"Genuine" because the first play in the Day 1 Sloonei playbook is to throw crap at the wall and see what sticks. Case in point: My Tranq vote which I just talked about in my previous post. Or, you know, any other game I've ever played on the Syndicate. I clarified that my Colin suspicion is genuine to iterate that this is more than just pot-stirring. My vote is on him because I actually find things he's said to be suspicious, not solely because I want to make people respond to my vote being on him.
If your suspicion of Colin was true, none of the red shit I highlighted would logically follow. If you truly believe Colin is bad you wouldn't care if other people think so too (in fact, you should welcome it), you wouldn't care how many teams there are (who gives a shit?) and you wouldn't care if bad guys lynch other bad guys.

You are bad. This is obvious to me.
The bullshit alarms are sounding all over this post, but I don't care. This post presents my read as if all Day 1 reads should be black and white. "If you believe Colin is bad you wouldn't care if other people think so too, as if everything that is happening here is in its own little vacuum and my read should be concretely settled because I believe in it. He then reaffirms how "obvious" it is that I am bad as if any of this stuff holds weight, or as if he'd really be so sure this early in a game. This is not a sincere case from Epginosis.

Epi is my strongest town read in the game.
Sloonbeard, I like the cut of your jib, but I don't love this post. If Epi is doing an epi thing and manufacturing a case, doesn't calling it out like this undermine whatever he is trying to accomplish?
by colonialbob
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:54 am
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

Epignosis wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:35 am
MacDougall wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:34 am
Epignosis wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:33 am
MacDougall wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:29 am
Sloonei wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:07 am I have a genuine Day 1 suspicion of Colin
As opposed to a non genuine one?
Plagiarist.
My friend I have sank one bottle of shiraz and was in catch up. I had not yet seen your post. Rather than a plagiarist, I am merely a fan.
My favorite red. So good.
I prefer Malbecs but I also enjoy a good Shiraz. I also just learned from Wikipedia that Shiraz and Syrah are the same thing.

themoreyouknow.jpg
by colonialbob
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:50 am
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

Epignosis wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:11 am
Kylemii wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:10 am
Epignosis wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:06 amFail.
you're a little confusing sometimes,

what do you think of DH (DharmaHelper)
I don't think of him.
Funniest post of the thread btw
by colonialbob
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:49 am
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

Epignosis wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:10 am
Sloonei wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:07 am I've added another town read to my list.

I have a genuine Day 1 suspicion of Colin, but am I little anxious about the ease with which his case gained momentum. His post about bandwagonining DDL is patented shady-nasty business, but I don't know how to feel about the seemingly exaggerated scrutiny it's received. Then again, there's also the fact that we have two scum teams. It's entirely possible for scum to pile on an easy bandwagon that ends up being correct. I'd like for Colin to say things. I'll lay out my own gripes against them so he has more variety to respond to. I was voting for Colin before it was cool, after all.
What mafia member says, "You know what? I'm going to plop a lazy third vote down on DDL early on in the day and draw attention to myself! That's a great idea!"

Lock civilian.
Let your opponent make mistakes
by colonialbob
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:48 am
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

Sloonei wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:07 am I've added another town read to my list.

I have a genuine Day 1 suspicion of Colin, but am I little anxious about the ease with which his case gained momentum. His post about bandwagonining DDL is patented shady-nasty business, but I don't know how to feel about the seemingly exaggerated scrutiny it's received. Then again, there's also the fact that we have two scum teams. It's entirely possible for scum to pile on an easy bandwagon that ends up being correct. I'd like for Colin to say things. I'll lay out my own gripes against them so he has more variety to respond to. I was voting for Colin before it was cool, after all.
Who do you consider questionable on the Colin wagon?
by colonialbob
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:46 am
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Topic: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 13]
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

Quin wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:02 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:55 pm Has anyone seen Quin? At this point I'd expect to see him angrily hissing at the people accusing him.
nobody is accusing me so i have nothing to do
J'accuse
by colonialbob
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:43 am
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

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S~V~S wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:50 pm
Lunalee wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:30 pm
S~V~S wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:46 pm
Lunalee wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:39 pm
Lunalee wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:33 pm
    nutella wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:52 pm Screw it let's get this over with early or I'll be uneasy for the rest of the game [VOTE: jackofhearts] aubergine
    Sorry, but that is not a god reason to vote someone. Anything Jack has done this game to make you suspect him?
    It's day 1. Nobody has a good reason to vote anyone. Why did you pick nutella to attack? Is it because Jack's your scum teammate? Got eem.
    I have a good reason to vote Colin. Point invalid.
    What does your valid suspicion of Colin have to do with Macs question about your attack (and your post did feel rather aggressive to me) on nutella?

    I am going to drop a vote on you for now. I don't believe that I (like Sorsha, who you noted had not played with you) have ever played with you. Perhaps this is your normal tone, and if so others will point it out, and then that might give me BOTD. But for now your tone has pinged me enough to vote on it.

    [VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine
    Hey SVS, I don't know if I've played with you before, but I've seen you around and sort of know about you. My valid suspicion of Colin shows that day one can contain valid suspicions. Mac doesn't think so, and therefore thinks I "attacked" nutella for no reason over her (in my opinon) completely invalid Jack suspicion. Does that clear things up for you?
    I understood the context, what got my eye was that you did not respond to his direct point, and redirected the conversation. Plus you sound somewhat confrontational when people suspect someone YOU don't think deserves scrutiny. Like, "here's my totes valid day one suspish but YOUR suspicion is weak because I don't find them suspect." Again this may just be you and how you play which would explain why I am the only person struck with it.

    Linki w/timmer, good question.
    Never mind found it
    by colonialbob
    Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:41 am
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    Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

    S~V~S wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:46 pm
    Lunalee wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:42 pm
    MacDougall wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:39 pm
    Lunalee wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:33 pm
      nutella wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:52 pm Screw it let's get this over with early or I'll be uneasy for the rest of the game [VOTE: jackofhearts] aubergine
      Sorry, but that is not a god reason to vote someone. Anything Jack has done this game to make you suspect him?
      It's day 1. Nobody has a good reason to vote anyone. Why did you pick nutella to attack? Is it because Jack's your scum teammate? Got eem.
      I have a good reason to vote Colin. Point invalid.
      What does your valid suspicion of Colin have to do with Macs question about your attack (and your post did feel rather aggressive to me) on nutella?

      I am going to drop a vote on you for now. I don't believe that I (like Sorsha, who you noted had not played with you) have ever played with you. Perhaps this is your normal tone, and if so others will point it out, and then that might give me BOTD. But for now your tone has pinged me enough to vote on it.

      [VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine
      Could you please explain this read a little more? What do you feel is Luna's tone and why is it pinging you?
      by colonialbob
      Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:38 am
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      Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

      MacDougall wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:39 pm
      Lunalee wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:33 pm
        nutella wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:52 pm Screw it let's get this over with early or I'll be uneasy for the rest of the game [VOTE: jackofhearts] aubergine
        Sorry, but that is not a god reason to vote someone. Anything Jack has done this game to make you suspect him?
        It's day 1. Nobody has a good reason to vote anyone. Why did you pick nutella to attack? Is it because Jack's your scum teammate? Got eem.
        Incorrect and I don't care for this. Good use of got eem though.

        (The rest of your posting seems compatible with early game town Mac)
        by colonialbob
        Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:33 am
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        Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

        [mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention]-bydoobydoo, where are you? We have much to discuss
        by colonialbob
        Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:17 pm
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        Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

        DharmaHelper wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:40 pm Anyway I've ranked the people who have currently voted from most to least suspicious as of me typing this post without being linkied into any other votes:


        Cbob - "His posting" is a funny but ultimately hollow and wormy way to explain the Colin vote
        Chuck - Did not give a reason for his DDL vote which IIRC came close to if not directly after Epi said he'd be voting DDL. Chuck pulling up to the train station early AF to save himself a seat.
        Sloonei - Voting for anyone based on other people's reasons for suspecting people is suspicious to me. Make your own points. Stand on your own ground.
        TH - Early vote for Sorsha for a hollow, funny reason. Doesn't look serious. Sorsha's not done anything overtly suspicious. Could be buddying/distancing but not worth losing my shit over instantly.
        Epi - His DDL vote makes sense, he gave a good reason and was consistent.
        There's something specific that led to my vote but I don't want to share yet because I'd rather see how he handles the pressure

        So far: not great, bob
        by colonialbob
        Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:16 pm
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        Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

        Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:14 pm
        DharmaHelper wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:57 pm
        Enrique wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:15 am btw i decided i have a truth meta now
        Lynch Enrique
        :clap:

        This is the game where I have no original thoughts.
        That is every game

        PS your hold hand post makes me feel better about you again, let's go solve this thing
        by colonialbob
        Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:15 pm
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        Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

        ColinIsCool wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:37 pm
        colonialbob wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:48 am Hmm good, we've started actually playing.

        Epi, you still feeling DDL?

        SVS could be obliquely defending sabie or poking Sloonei. Not a big fan of sabie's response.

        @Jackofhearts2005 want to trust team? Coming back to a 30 player fancy game is intimidating and I need to find a handhold somewhere.
        Why Jack?
        I've played with him way more than anybody else here
        by colonialbob
        Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:11 pm
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        Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

        colonialbob wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:10 pm :nicenod: :nicenod: :nicenod:
        Sloonei wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:41 pm (In general I always think that pushing for a tie is a lame strategy. There's always a mechanism for deciding the result, and that mechanism always takes the responsibility of the outcome away from the hands of the voters, and that's never preferable. The existence of the tribunal does not change that. We should avoid any situations that would make the tribunal relevant, but none of this is really special to this game.)
        :nicenod:

        The reason to avoid ties has nothing to do with who is on the tribunal and everything to do with making it harder to draw conclusions from the lunch result.
        lern 2 post n00b
        by colonialbob
        Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:10 pm
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        Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

        :nicenod: :nicenod: :nicenod:
        Sloonei wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:41 pm (In general I always think that pushing for a tie is a lame strategy. There's always a mechanism for deciding the result, and that mechanism always takes the responsibility of the outcome away from the hands of the voters, and that's never preferable. The existence of the tribunal does not change that. We should avoid any situations that would make the tribunal relevant, but none of this is really special to this game.)
        :nicenod:

        The reason to avoid ties has nothing to do with who is on the tribunal and everything to do with making it harder to draw conclusions from the lunch result.
        by colonialbob
        Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:11 pm
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        Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

        juliets wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:50 pm
        colonialbob wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:25 pm
        colonialbob wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:48 am Hmm good, we've started actually playing.

        Epi, you still feeling DDL?

        SVS could be obliquely defending sabie or poking Sloonei. Not a big fan of sabie's response.

        Jackofhearts2005 want to trust team? Coming back to a 30 player fancy game is intimidating and I need to find a handhold somewhere.
        Update: I no longer want to trust team you.

        Looks like a lot of people busy this weekend... including me (as I will be away most of today).

        [VOTE: ColinIsCool] aubergine
        So bob, you mention Epi's DDL suspicion and say you are not a fan of sable's responses but then vote Colin. Could you share why you voted him?
        Yeah, saw him reading the thread and that he hadn't put a vote down yet. Wanted to see if anything had changed.

        Not a fan but it's also hardly damning, and iirc sabie was traveling so not likely to get much right away.

        His posting.
        by colonialbob
        Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:25 pm
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        Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

        colonialbob wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:48 am Hmm good, we've started actually playing.

        Epi, you still feeling DDL?

        SVS could be obliquely defending sabie or poking Sloonei. Not a big fan of sabie's response.

        Jackofhearts2005 want to trust team? Coming back to a 30 player fancy game is intimidating and I need to find a handhold somewhere.
        Update: I no longer want to trust team you.

        Looks like a lot of people busy this weekend... including me (as I will be away most of today).

        [VOTE: ColinIsCool] aubergine
        by colonialbob
        Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:49 am
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        Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

        Also re: the map - are there such a thing as squares with both land and water? Or if it's mostly water it's a water square? I'm not really familiar with map games.
        by colonialbob
        Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:48 am
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        Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 1]

        Hmm good, we've started actually playing.

        Epi, you still feeling DDL?

        SVS could be obliquely defending sabie or poking Sloonei. Not a big fan of sabie's response.

        [mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] want to trust team? Coming back to a 30 player fancy game is intimidating and I need to find a handhold somewhere.
        by colonialbob
        Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:34 pm
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        Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Night 0]

        Hit the Major Third makes me think of Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah, while Will You Become More makes me want to say "Go Beyond - Pluuuuuus ULTRA!"

        I'm not sure either of those are helpful thoughts.
        by colonialbob
        Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:29 pm
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        Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Night 0]

        Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:35 pm
        G-Man wrote: Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:27 pm Kvetch all you like, but I’m tying this poll up.

        I want to become more than what I am. Let’s light this candle!
        Heh colonialbob
        Ugh. Consider yourself kvetched at, [mention]G-Man[/mention]
        by colonialbob
        Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:56 am
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        Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Night 0]

        Ok so if I remember how to do all this correctly we all post memes and then spend the last 5 minutes frantically switching our poll votes as many times as possible

        Is that correct?

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