The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 6:43 pm @Justplayingitcool is tied for the 2021 Syndicate wins lead with Mac at 5.

yep which is why I wanted to win

But the targets are public and theoretically very telling. I think going into the game we didn’t do enough due diligence to figure out how to best manipulate chat targets

That’s true, detracts from thread activity

tbh mafia team of three is probably right on the money for what this setup needs but maybe 3/15 idk

I will say that I think this setup is incredibly townsided but that’s not an excuse. Town played very well and deserve the win.

thought just maybe I could sneak that one but the prospects were dim

I thought it was marmot but he has three aim clears and is doing townie stuff

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 5:48 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 5:47 pm though i agree with mac that i have auto it's just that auto involves not chopping tsp
so you have jpic and marmot as clear? and your poe is just nanook? or me also?

Clear enough yeah

though i agree with mac that i have auto it's just that auto involves not chopping tsp

don't vote tsp that's stupid

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 7:41 am Whats gonna happen is were gonna kill Joseph and if he flips town were gonna kill whomever he says to in f3

i also think that this is a good strategy if nanook is town but the problem is it's a great strategy if nanook is a wolf

also i'm conscious of the fact that im voting for nanook and he's also the only one i haven't talked to today and also i have a tendency of voting for nanook at inopportune times but like idk

well not really

oh wow my legacy message can actually matter

yeah but i'm not clearing nanook off just esooa dying on night 2

oh he was playing white

if i vote nanook it's a four way tie which is what you love to see with five players left

just reconstructed this game, we played in discord but this is just a recounting of that information in a different form. he resigned after move thirteen which seems slightly premature tbh but his position was not good

uh i can like

nanook's right that the nka looks good for him

ok my vote's basically locked in then if anyone else has any questions please direct them to my secretary

k new theory the wolves are whoever wanted to do crazy stuff on day 3

i mean technically he was not the day 3 counterwagon but i have a feeling the wolves wanted him chopped

now who's changing their reads on the spot

marmot has three aim clears and was basically the counterwagon day 3 and is probably not a wolf

some people would say that's a good reason to throw out aim tells which si not true

nope nanook targeted a dead dude day 2. everyone's clear from aim tells

well if we take all the aim tells as gospel then nanook's the only one not clear

did sean and marmot both target me on day 3

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 3:22 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 3:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 8:08 pm I think I am his top town lol. he's just locked me in as town all game. perhaps this is why I am alive?

he also targeted me for chat today and hasn't done anything which... I feel is more aligned to him as town. He gets very busy in endgame as mafia.
econd highest but close
who is the highest

the robot who targeted the same person on sean for three days in a row

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 2:24 pm Also wtf!! Sean and TSP were playing chess in their chat, but sean didn't post in the thread for the final 36 hours of the day, how are we not talking about this?

we played chess while sean was still in the thread because he posted the result of our game smh

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 2:19 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:46 pm i abstain from voting and depending on the result I either was or wasn't on the wagon

He said this at the end of the day too.

@TonyStarkPrime why didn't you ultimately vote anyone Day 1?

there was a runaway wagon on bo and i didn't feel like it

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 1:56 pm I'm reading my chat with TSP Day 3 with the idea that TSP wanted to propose sean/ted as a scum team with the intent of mis-yeeting ted, and that approach does make sense to me.

At one point, I asked TSP who he wanted to yeet, and he said ted/sean. He said his main interest was voting ted because ted had the most compatibility with other players (this came after I explained to him my ted/falcon theory). When I asked him why these two, he explained that neither did anything he thought was townie. I did ISO sean after that and brought a couple posts to TSP's attention, to which he kinda just nodded his head.

I could just be conf-biasing myself though.

ted was a compromise candidate

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 1:39 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 1:32 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 12:24 pm but then again, im reading back my chat with TSP and our discussions around sean felt pretty damn natural. I voiced suspicions of Sean to TSP and he didn't say anything to try and dissuade me from thinking that. He explained his reasons for voting ted because he believed he had higher partner equity with everybody not named mac and me.

Like I read it and I still coming away with thinking that TSP is a villager
How did he talk about sean in your chat? That was Day 3 right?
Yep, that was d3.

I asked TSP why everybody was townreading sean because I wasn't seeing why he deserved those and he just said, and I'm paraphrasing, mac said so and was solvey in his chat, which TSP then said all he did in their chats was play chess. When I told him I was thinking of removing my vote from ted to sean he encouraged me to do it because tie the wagons. TSP didn't want to switch because he wanted to see how it developed. Not wanting to move over to sean and see how it developed is one minor concern. But yeah, TSP never actively encouraged me to not vote sean at all.

i fell asleep before eod or i wouldn't have left it tied tbh

also yesterday i said it's probably just ted and that didn't go well for us

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 11:17 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 2:31 am At the beginning of the day I was concerned because Mac and I had opposite reads and now we have the same reads and I didn’t even say anything so mind meld
what are your reads

it's probably just marmot and sometimes it's nanook and I kinda wanna yolo say it's not mac but nanook's strategy probably like objectively wins the most games

also weren't there like four votes on you day 1 if you're town why would think you might get shot

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 8:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:40 am Hot takes.

Nanook is in his town range
Jay is out of his scumrange (lol)
Esooa is town because she cares about my reads and shit
TSP chose me to chat with and has provided me with some reads in private and feels aight
Marmot is town because I am townreading him for some reason and that probably just means he is
Dana is town because she doesn't care bout looking bad
BoKnows is town because he doesn't give a shit about looking like a slanker
Gavial is town because Esooa reckons he is

That leaves me with an easy winning POE of Jpic, Ted, Seanzie and Falcon. Gg mafia.
I would have died n1 over Jay if this was accurate.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 8:49 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:34 pm Dana
Esooa
falcon45ca
Justplayingitcool
Marmot
tedxtr

---POE Line---

BoKnows
Gavial
MacDougall
Nanook
Seanzie
TonyStarkPrime

Names within tiers are only alphabetical. We still have room for a POE of six, so that's what I have here. We would benefit from narrowing it further though, especially if I am right and end up dead early.

BoKnows and Gavial -- I have no personal reason to call either of these players civilians. Call them my "top two suspects" if such a thing need exist.

I can formulate suspicions of Mac, Nanook, and Tony if I want to. These three all have some kind of loose connections that might make them compatible with each other, but not necessarily problematic on their own.

Seanzie seems fine over the last page or so. I have room for six though so he stays put.

If I am wrong about a green name, my first guess would be Esooa. I don't feel strongly about that or have much concern at the moment, otherwise I wouldn't post this at all.
Jay died because he was accurate.

I take JPIC as clear now.

my pedantic counterpoint is that sean killed jay before jay even had a chance to post in his last wolf game and that might just be his playbook

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 8:08 pm I think I am his top town lol. he's just locked me in as town all game. perhaps this is why I am alive?

he also targeted me for chat today and hasn't done anything which... I feel is more aligned to him as town. He gets very busy in endgame as mafia.

econd highest but close

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 7:44 pm TSP - Still a big question mark. I wish he wasn't. Like [bold]he said he was gonna solve this game today, but I'm afraid he doesn't actually plan to[/bold]. TSP did tell me on Day 3 he wanted to yeet sean or ted, but that he didn't want to yeet falcon (that's why I asked if he TR him). In the end, he did vote for ted though, and actually didn't even talk about sean that much, despite advocating for his yeet.

well I /planned/ to but i also planned to write this essay and actually so far neither have been done

i actually was tinfoiling jpic and then i read page 57 and now I'm back to not doing that

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 6:41 pm This is gonna be tough.

I am confident Marmot is town.

I think Nook is.

I kinda think JPIC is.

I guess that leave Tony Two Tone.

i implied this but coming into the day my reads list was this upside down

ok I need to start from the beginning instead of piecing this together

some things never change

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 2:26 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 1:48 am
Dana wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 1:47 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 1:46 am
Dana wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 1:44 am who did you chat with today sean?
TonyStonkPrime.

I challenged him to a game of chess with the caveat that the loser has to out their alignment. He beat me in 13 moves...
and.....?
Ask him...

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 1:51 am
Dana wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 1:49 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 1:48 am he's a wolf
yeah?
that's what he told me, anyways

Like how does TSP not vote for sean after this?

how do i not vote for the man who claims wolf at every opportunity in every game he plays after he claims wolf is this a real question

im here hows the game going

At the beginning of the day I was concerned because Mac and I had opposite reads and now we have the same reads and I didn’t even say anything so mind meld

The compromise is Ill take care of this after finishing my paper tomorrow

I’m aware of this game and I’ve read like some of the posts today

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