The Syndicate

Uh huh. thought I was Ahriman eh? Nice try.

Epi... RIP my friend.

Hello there llama.

Vote registered.

I'm voting2 as well.

thellama73 wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

reywaS wrote:Ok, I have a question about the whole "let's definitely lynch llama tomorrow" thing. I could very well be missing something here, but that's the purpose of the question.

Why is llama the obvious choice to be a team mate of nutella rather than, say, Turnip Head or Bullzeye who were the most vocal advocates for abandoning the idea of lynching nutella in order to get rid of me?

Llama was likely to have been rezzed by LA. Her role had a rez in this position. Do baddies often rezz non-teammates, in your experience?

Linki - I went off the post detailing all living and dead players, which doesn't include failed kill attempts. I literally listed the four names on the dead list described as killed by the Mercenary.

I knew I should have lynched you when I had the chance, you fiend. Stop spreading lies about me. There are other rezzes besides Nutella's. Why is she called LA anyway?

She was called LostAddict at LP and then when she started going by Nutella, she spelled it nutelLA so people knew it was her, so we still called her LA. It's been hard breaking that habit for me.

reywaS wrote:Ok, I have a question about the whole "let's definitely lynch llama tomorrow" thing. I could very well be missing something here, but that's the purpose of the question.

Why is llama the obvious choice to be a team mate of nutella rather than, say, Turnip Head or Bullzeye who were the most vocal advocates for abandoning the idea of lynching nutella in order to get rid of me?

I never said llama was the sure thing lynch tomorrow, just that he will obviously be kynched before long. I'm not committing to anything yet.

Hosts, do we get a position poll?

Doubt he will be for long. He was rezzed when the Druidic elder was in a position to Rez. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out his alignment.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Well, if it's not going to be a tie, I'm going back to MM. I like ties.

I can't lynch you today.

Clearly he can't lynch you either.

Turnip Head wrote:

bea wrote: I seem to remember a certain Big Bad Wolf (TH) being quite the help to the civs, particularly Bo Peep in that storybook game on LP way back in the day......

Truly my finest hour :P

I remember this game for being the game that made it impossible for any baddie to self target ever again without drawing suspicion. That is what I remember most about that game. I can't even remember my own role, but I can remember yours, lol!

Bullzeye wrote:Bet I'm on your shitlist Rey. It's okay, I'll be on everyone's if LA isn't a civ.

Even if she flips civ, you read pretty genuine to me. I doubt you are on her team. I considered it when Rey first brought it up though, just don't feel it from you. So you won't be on mine either.

I don't think he is making a deal with teams, he is making a deal with individuals. frankly I think I am more interested in the information to be gained from Nutella. And seeing as how we never have night in position 3 for more than a few seconds, I don't think it is that great a risk. I think there is a lot to be gained from seeing nutella's alignment, because it will affect how I feel about a few others too.

Two other people who I believe we should be discussing right now are MM and Devin.

MM, the Nutella/bwt lynch was clearly going towards Nutella, then he changed his vote to make it a tie. Then he complained about a tie that he created. I think it wasn't really a tie, I think that the lynch was moved to David to ensure Nutella didn't die. But your vote moving from Nutella to David was done to cover that up. If I was to vote anyone other than Nutella, I would vote you.

Devin. Come on man, you are just phoning it in. You have clearly been latching onto everyone else's suspicions for a while now if not all game, and been as blends as can be. I don't trust you.

Turnip head, what are your feelings on a Nutella lynch?

I do

None taken, I was just kidding around too. Besides, I'm more of a threat than Alex.

Epignosis wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:I love the dawn hours, everyone is hiding, waiting to see the outcome of the nights events. But you know what? We're not going to die. We can't die, Bendis. You know why? Because we are so very pretty. We are just too damn pretty for God to let us die. Seeing as that I am not afraid to die, I think the following are bad:

Nutella
Tranq
MM

Maybe Devin and Canuck

I think you are wrong about aapje Epi, and since I trusted you last time, I'd like you to trust me this time. Tit for tat my friend.

I would like have liked a little MORE trust from you, but there we are. If tits are in the plan, that only sweetens the deal.

You had more than realized. Not my tits of course, you'll have to talk to your wife about that.

I love the dawn hours, everyone is hiding, waiting to see the outcome of the nights events. But you know what? We're not going to die. We can't die, Bendis. You know why? Because we are so very pretty. We are just too damn pretty for God to let us die. Seeing as that I am not afraid to die, I think the following are bad:

Nutella
Tranq
MM

Maybe Devin and Canuck

I think you are wrong about aapje Epi, and since I trusted you last time, I'd like you to trust me this time. Tit for tat my friend.

Sorsha wrote:With option 3 Celia gets to kill and Ahriman gets to block 5 people.

Option 1 gives Ahriman redirect powers and Celia a lynch pardon.

Either of these will give either one baddie leader or the other lynch/ nk immunity.

Option 4 doesn't give them immunity, just curse and poison. Ahriman can kill, Celia can send us a message.

I'm thinking either option 3 or 4 and hoping that Celia or Ahriman have good instincts for who to kill.

Daisy- why do you think 1?

What you are saying is you are ok with giving one of the baddie team leaders immunity but not the other? Interesting.

I want 1 because 3 is useless, it always gets skipped. And I think putting some control of the lynch outcome and night power redirects is a good thing right now. Probably the best thing for the civs at the moment actually.

Awe, why not 1 people?

Voted position 1

Glad I trusted you Epi, sad that bwt was lynched.

I think bwt has teammates, but I don't think it is Epi. Time will tell I suppose.

Canucklehead wrote:What the what?? I thought I was starting a Devin train, but my train got overtaken by a Nutella train. Tres disappoint.

So who are you voting then? Still Devin?

reywaS wrote:I'm not sure what to make of these developments. Epig turns the lynch in nutella's direction and people follow with little resistance. Did you guys trust DH to this extent, or did Epi all on his own convince you he's trustworthy? Not that I necessarily think Epi is bad...just seems weird.

Turnip Head, where you voting?

It is some of both for me.

Turnip Head wrote:I suspect BWT/Boom for Boomslang's sketchy gameplay and Daisy's circumstantial case regarding the Ahri kill. But I trust the nutella voters more than the BWT voters. I don't really understand Epi's point about nutella though, and it feels like none of the other voters do either

linki: I guess I see what you're talking about Epi. Props to you in any case for not letting this lynch be a one bird race.

I understand his point and would even agree with his suspicion. What I didn't and don't understand is his behavior. But I am trusting him.

If bwt doesn't even vote to save himself, I think my case might have been shot to shit. I can't imagine his team would not let him know he was about to die...

birdwithteeth11 wrote:I apologize. I still have not had any time to catch up. Later tomorrow I will try to do so.

Hey David, you know you are on the chopping block right now, right? You may want to vote before you leave because the poll ends tonight.

Epignosis wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:you know what is funny? This bean dip thing became a thing here and has been for months without me even knowing it. I inadvertently created an inside joke and without even knowing it!!

Also, there is bean dip in my fridge at this very moment.

I was going to buy bean dip and wrap it up and give it to MP as a present but we were almost late to the wedding and I think of things last minute.

that would have been hysterical!

you know what is funny? This bean dip thing became a thing here and has been for months without me even knowing it. I inadvertently created an inside joke and without even knowing it!!

Also, there is bean dip in my fridge at this very moment.

Let's hope the Druidic elder is gone or that they are not recruited bad and we can actually learn something this lynch.

Something else I thought about was the poison, could come into play if the first person to be poisoned is still alive.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I have not trusted anybody for a while now so I my options are currently open to vote for anyone.

So would you care to join us in a Nutella vote?

Sure. I'm here to appease you afterall.

Why are people voting for birdwithteeth?

I'm not sure what that even means, but cool.

I made a convincing case, they already suspected boomslang for being shady anyway. Now Epi has convinced me to vote Nutella instead though. In a nut shell.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I have not trusted anybody for a while now so I my options are currently open to vote for anyone.

So would you care to join us in a Nutella vote?

Alright Epi. You know what, I trust you. I don't understand you right now, but I trust you. Mark this day on your calendar. I will switch my vote to Nutella.

vote registered for Nutella

And if she flips bad, tranq should be a serious contender for a lynch.

I did say I would consider voting elsewhere, more than once in the last handful of posts.

Epignosis wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:

Canucklehead wrote:Is anyone willing to consider a Devin vote??

I just went and glanced through his posts, and they are why wibblyest, most non-committal things I've ever seen.....EXCEPT for the Bubbles vote day, which looks like a sort of half-hearted distancing attempt by Bubbles....

Other people should have a look and tell me what they think

I agree with your suspicion completely, but I think we should at least try to zero in on a couple people rather than spread it out all over. If devin would be one of those then yes I would consider it.the same goes for Nutella, and clearly bwt. Tranq would be an option to me too.

Linki @ Epi: you have no more concrete evidence for Nutella, so I'm really not understanding why you have hesitance regarding bwt. I would consider a Nutella vote, but I am not ready to commit to that yet.

You have no concrete evidence for bwt. If you had concrete evidence all the time, Mafia ceases to be Mafia and you might as well play Tetris.

No, I have no more concrete evidence for Nutella. I looked at her more closely because she posted something that, in my opinion, was flimsy and weak. I now believe she should be lynched.

If you lynch bwt, and he comes back not bad, what then?

Then I was wrong and we try again, that is the risk that is run in every lynch. I'm aware there isn't hard and fast evidence for bwt, I've never claimed there was. what answer are you looking for from me here?

Canucklehead wrote:Is anyone willing to consider a Devin vote??

I just went and glanced through his posts, and they are why wibblyest, most non-committal things I've ever seen.....EXCEPT for the Bubbles vote day, which looks like a sort of half-hearted distancing attempt by Bubbles....

Other people should have a look and tell me what they think

I agree with your suspicion completely, but I think we should at least try to zero in on a couple people rather than spread it out all over. If devin would be one of those then yes I would consider it.the same goes for Nutella, and clearly bwt. Tranq would be an option to me too.

Linki @ Epi: you have no more concrete evidence for Nutella, so I'm really not understanding why you have hesitance regarding bwt. I would consider a Nutella vote, but I am not ready to commit to that yet.

I think she is likely bad. I've gone back and forth about her all game, but lately I have felt mostly bad vibes where she is concerned and she and tranq jumping on makes me feel even more. However, there are also two bad teams, so it doesn't clear bwt IMO.

Here from the beginning

What word did you have in mind?

I would consider tranq, too quiet I don't know what he is playing at. Metalmarsh seems to be too eager to stay on people's good side, that is concerning me, it is far from his regular play style. Devin, he has been a band wagoner all along, not feeling good vibes there, even if he is agreeing with my BWT suspicions.

Votes are changeable, I have no issue with tossing my vote out there now.

I don't know for certain. But that is what I think most likely. What do you propose happened then?

Bwt replaced boomslang. I believe boomslang was bad. He was already under suspicion from players, then Night 9s came along and Ahriman attempted to kill 2 people, DH and boomslang. Both failed. It has generally been agreed upon that DH would be a freaking weird choice of kill for Ahriman, all things considered. I had looked over the list to see if there was a reason that Ahriman might have ended up with two kills showing up in one night. The only thing I could see was that Boomslang (because I am operating under the belief that Ahriman wouldn't have targeted DH) might be either the jilted lover or the warden. We know now that Gman was the jilted lover in his previous incarnation,so we can scratch that. So if he was the warden, and the power was used by him, targeting DH seems like a decidedly baddie move. Then the only sense I can make of Roxy's weirdness over the restarted night was that she was trying to obfuscate the truth about what occurred in order to provide some cover for boom/bwt. I really think this would be the best choice for a lynch today.

Why what? Why bwt over aapje? Because I whole heartedly believe bwt is bad and I do not feel the same way about aapje.

Why Rez Jay? Because he brings life to the thread we are missing.

I would much rather see a bwt lynch over an aapje lynch. I'd also like to see more talking in here. Someone rez Jay please.

Devin the Omniscient wrote:RIP Everyone
Welcome back Epi

I find myself agreeing with SD again. I may vote bwt today. I'm always up for a birdie lynch

I find your amicability with my views to be unnerving. You're freaking me out man!

Epignosis wrote:At this stage, I find the unrecruited claims bullshit. It's Night 10. Stop pretending that shit.

By Night 10 of RM3, recruitments were finished and no one was left unrecruited.

So get out of here with that, number one.

Number two, if you are unrecruited, you still have an allegiance.

Welcome back Epi!

bea wrote:which team are you on MM? you quit being neutral a while ago ammIrite?

I like this bea, can we keep her around?

Holy smokes that was a lot of death, but I would like to point out that of those who died, only one was one of the people claiming to be unrecruited. Which is why I think those who are saying, "if you're civ you should be claiming it now" deserve an eyeball on them.

I personally intend of voting for bwt. It would be silly to ignore the fact that boomslang survived a kill by Ahriman in a night when there were two Ahriman kills, one of which was directed at DH, which is shady. I think this looks really bad and would have voted him yesterday if not for the fact he couldn't be lynched.

Voted registered for bwt

Also, I think Rox was bad so I'm cool with that kill, I think she was spinning that two night theory crap to try to cover bwt's ass. Just my two cents.

Devin the Omniscient wrote:

bea wrote:I like aapje's post asking the neurals to play civ minded. I totes get that. I'm more than happy to follow vote with someone I have good feelings about.

That's why I voted with SD. I trust her. For once

Roxy wrote:

nutella wrote:Roxy I think you are just plain wrong. It is still night 9. It is not a separate night, although actions have to be re-sent. They can be the same target as they were originally.

Yeah you already said this before and like before I just don't care - I am entitled to my own opinion.
I was told I could not use my power

Sure enough, you are right TH. she posted this today.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Roxy appears to be silenced and has already voted for Tranq.

Someone didn't want Roxy talking today, wonder why? Perhaps a read through of who she was vocal about...

Turnip Head wrote:I'm putting my vote on thellama73 for now. Regardless of him being busy and traveling, he hasn't felt like the same Llama that I know and love. He characterized MM as careful and placating, and Llama compared that to his own baddie game, and I think that's exactly how Llama has been playing this game.

This. Seeing as how Boomslang/bwt is not lynchable today. I'm putting my vote here as well because of reasons I've already stated plus Wilgy's statements.

Vote registered for Llama