The Syndicate

Wait, what? Why don't I see my vote? Did I not post it...?

[VOTE: Approve] aubergine

I already voted to approve

Guilty of course.

Am no convinsed

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 4:01 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 3:52 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 3:04 pm I'm still confused why everyone's seemingly freezing me out inside and outside of the thread. What's even more confusing is the insistence on putting together a team that will 100% fail.

Slightly less, but still confusing in its own right - the idea that Any strategy I propose at all is pretty bluntly dismissed.

Dunno. Seems like maybe I missed the boat.

I can send you a PM if you want? We could talk about the weather, or the sim?

I DONT WANT TO RUSH YOU

You know you love me DH, even if we are on opposing teams this time around, you naughty criminal you!

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 3:04 pm I'm still confused why everyone's seemingly freezing me out inside and outside of the thread. What's even more confusing is the insistence on putting together a team that will 100% fail.

Slightly less, but still confusing in its own right - the idea that Any strategy I propose at all is pretty bluntly dismissed.

Dunno. Seems like maybe I missed the boat.

I can send you a PM if you want? We could talk about the weather, or the sim?

Yes

Down to Golden and Speedchuck eh?

It doesn't take two criminals to sink a mission, it only takes one. Let's get a jury proposed so we can vote on it.

I know that Alex and I both have voted. I just checked with him. Not sure who we are waiting on.

Does the message I sent you last night count or should I send it again?

Who are we still waiting on?

No one wants to make teams they aren't on.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 4:27 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 4:22 pm Almost too easy. Now I'm concerned.

Then why did you vote to approve?

Because I liked the look of DP and that was the only change to the previous team that got the Guilty verdict. Also I was in it.

Looks like my concerns were unfounded though. Well done.

Almost too easy. Now I'm concerned.

Who would you sub yourself in for?

I literally quoted you DH. You are going to deny saying something that I literally quoted you on. And when you said it, I was so shocked I actually asked you to clarify to make sure I understood you right. So there is no denying what you said.

I'm not going to argue with you, I'm going to just go back to observing and voting. Civilians, I don't recommend putting DH on your juries when you are head juror.

I never said anything about feeling bad about you buddying or whatever. That's Scotty, I'm just calling out a bad strategy for what it is.

I won't be putting DH on any of my juries when I am Head Juror. And I won't approve any jury with him in it.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:36 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:35 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:30 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:28 pm Ok, so do you guys know some simple strategies we can use?

It's tough cuz I don't want to spill too much of the beans and give criminals a leg up but it would be beneficial to get as many team nominations as possible.

Please clarify what you mean here.

Linki: Would anyone care if I turn off the linki for this thread, this is freaking annoying...

Seeing who people put on their team is very helpful, The more Head Jurors we can get to nominate teams, the more we can learn about who may be Criminal.

Right here DH. Right here. Civilians don't have any info. If this were the second round I might be more inclined to more carefully choose the jury. But in this first round, the people who benefit from seeing lots of jury nominations are the criminals.

You didn't say we need to get into a trial as quickly as possible though DH. Don't hide the truth here. you said that the best thing is to see as many jury compositions as possible. And basically pushed the idea of letting everyone put one together. You are rushing people into a bad strategy is my point.

You want to rush us into assembling and voting to approve or disapprove juries quickly before the real discussion of best strategy could start imo. That is rushing things.

I am not saying we need to immediately approve this jury or should have approved the first, but I do not like the idea of letting every player assemble a jury before we finally consider approving a jury. And you are saying that seeing as many jury compositions head jurors put together that we can is better for the civs. But I don't agree.

Also, constantly disapproving teams in this first round is giving an advantage to the criminals. They already know who each other are, they are trying to figure out which one of the civilians also has that information. I recommend not rushing your votes and not being keen to just disapprove through everyone's jury in this first round. The less information we give to the criminals the better. We don't get any information until we get the first result from a trial. I am moving slow intentionally, I don't trust the people rushing us with unwise strategies.

fwiw I play Resistance too. And there is a huge difference here. In Resistance, some of the missions take more than one person to fail. It's easier to sort out how to identify the baddies and more difficult for them to hide. Here it only takes one Not Guilty to lose any trial for us. And we have five trials and they have five members. This is not Resistance or Avalon guys. They only need one of their guys on three of our teams to win. In all likelihood this first trial will come back Guilty because the jury only will have four members. It will be harder to hide their member in four than in five or six. And it's also more likely we get lucky and hit a team with no criminals in it in my opinion.

Don't be rushed, think it through. That's my advice. I agree with Scotty, I don't trust you right now either DH. You are the biggest culprit of pushing this strategy and rushing things.

Three things.

First I'm on this team, so I'm going to [VOTE: approve] aubergine

Second an abstain is in the civilian teams favor.

Third, he will probably be back in here sometime tomorrow maybe. He has been awake since 6:00 am Monday morning, finishing his dissertation. I expect he will pop in and vote before he goes to bed, but once he is asleep I think we will be lucky to see him by this time tomorrow, lol.

It's really more for mafia. Because our polls don't keep track of vote order, it puts the word aubergine in there in order to make an easily searchable term that shouldn't come up in mafia. Makes it easier to identify vote order.

Why?

Well speedchuck only chose the first four people on the list.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:36 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:35 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:30 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:28 pm Ok, so do you guys know some simple strategies we can use?

It's tough cuz I don't want to spill too much of the beans and give criminals a leg up but it would be beneficial to get as many team nominations as possible.

Please clarify what you mean here.

Linki: Would anyone care if I turn off the linki for this thread, this is freaking annoying...

Seeing who people put on their team is very helpful, The more Head Jurors we can get to nominate teams, the more we can learn about who may be Criminal.

Presumably to see what kind of jury each player assembles.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:30 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:28 pm Ok, so do you guys know some simple strategies we can use?

It's tough cuz I don't want to spill too much of the beans and give criminals a leg up but it would be beneficial to get as many team nominations as possible.

Please clarify what you mean here.

Linki: Would anyone care if I turn off the linki for this thread, this is freaking annoying...