The Syndicate

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:54 pm Nova was like a son to me

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:01 pm Niska has more jobs available btw, you guys should check him out

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:40 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:00 pm @DharmaHelper You have both INH and Enrique in your crew. Barring a failure, only one of them will be in the poll, that is if you cooperate. I really would like both in the poll. Fire one of them.

Oh sure lemme get right on that.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:32 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:32 pm Tfw when you don't get named in Mac's post

Which one?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:29 pm That's two of you who have claimed that I'm so shit that I'm going to lose us the game because I have a scum read on you now. Because in a game with speedchuck, epignosis, golden, nutella, turnip head, DharmaHelper and however many other gun players I'm gonna just shit town play us to a loss because of effort.

Okay I'll just go back to shit posting like I was on day 1 if you want? That makes heaps of sense.

Enrique wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:23 pm Mac is gonna lose us this game out of pure stubbornness if he keeps this whole bit up where everything related to me is bad just because of a dumb conspiracy theory he came up with without reading the game.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:37 pm Voting DF, but without huge conviction. I wish people would actually read thecase I made on TH yesterday. I had a significant chunk of people who seemed willing to go that way yesterday and it’s evaporated and I don’t understand why.

Enrique wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:49 pm There's no lack of posts where I'm theorizing why Golden was shielding him and pressuring him to get added so yeah, I'm aware, nova. That's besides the point. The point is the Marmot section doesn't say anything on its own while others do. The three people he had as bad turned out to be town, the person he's defending is someone a bunch of us think was his teammate, and then there's a bunch of people he's completely neutral on. It's arbitrary to focus on Marmot, and if he does get lynched today I hope we'll be done with those fake deep reads tomorrow.

Enrique wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:32 pm

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:28 pm So its time for me to weigh in I guess. I've been going over everyones that's on the Vote's posts. Here is my two cents:

Glorf - While I had initial suspicions of him initially, which was primarily founded on this focus of his meta. I do believe that he very well is a good player and not a baddie. He's been defensive of players, and his Captain and has only really lashed out when one of those was put in the hot seat. So I've swung this vote from red to green.

DDL - Though most people seem to think DDL is a baddie, I'm not entirely convinced. I've seen it swing either way so I am on the ropes with DDL but the way that DDL has reacted even despite his being ejected from his crew. This does not scream bad to me. So I'm again swinging my thoughts from Badish to good.

DrWilgy - Lurking in the shadows. Very low activity from what I've seen but most of what they have posted has not really carried much substance. I suppose the real life reason for inactivity should be considered. I'm on the ropes here. Earlier on they were pretty aggresive with some comments. One thing that stood out to me and still rings is "My Votes have gone to preventing a cowered from being Captain, I'll hold my 4th". This still resonates with me and has pushed my vote over to the bad side. I'm still curious why Wilgy would label Golden a Cowered as I Believe that is where that comment was directed. So... Yeah. And Silence for a long period from the 9th up until...?

DFaraday - Not very active. Mostly responsive to post but nothing that really stands out to me.

Kylemii - Wizard Stuff? Is this some kind of misdirect and avoidance of the Topics at hand? Has not really been helpful but has not hurt. Someone I'm watching to see where this goes as we move on. Leaning Bad.

Luna - Reading through your posts I didn't honestly see anything that stood out as bad up until you ejected DDL from your crew. I'm still not sure I understand why. I thought your handling of your crew pointed to good, but your comments to take in "Jaded" crew. Then when Challenged on it, you 180'ed and said it was a joke. Kind of Strange to me. Those two points combined have me thinking you hail from the dark side of things.

Lapluie... ? Not really here? LOL

Marmot - No real substance to posts until somewhat recently. The vote for Mac without reason kind of through me. I would be interested to know why you threw Mac Under the bus.

SpeedChuck - This suggestion to Lynch ships that have more crew while a good tactic for a win, I'm not sure if I can tell if it was a "Bad' or "Good" Suggestion. It could be both. Mostly seems to play devils advocate between posts.

This is all I've got so far from reading through things and following. Some of the most recent posts are not really analyized here. But yeah. Observations.

So I'm leaning on DrWilgy, and Luna to be honest. I would like other opinions on why I shouldn't vote for one of them or which one I should over the other?

This is the Sokoth post that the whole game is revolving around. The Wilgy portion was focused on because Epi pulled it out of his ass, Marmot because Golden put him on the poll. When they're both dead and town tomorrow, somebody's gonna grab the speedchuck portion which doesn't say anything at all and be like "oh hey look the content of this is different from the other two, surely that means he's bad?" (conveniently ignoring the defense of DDL, again).

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:10 pm Anyway spoilers:

I don't think Nova is going to score high on the Teammate-o-meter.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:02 pm Oh shit there's new items for sale

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:58 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:56 pm @Turnhip Head What happened to our cash? I haven't been remunerated in a while captain.

Seriously?

I would call that concerning. Why haven’t you raised it before?

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:58 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:51 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:42 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:38 pm Yeah Faraday sussed and then voted dead confirmed mafia SQ in a way that doesn't make sense to have been to mop up credit on a bus. It's not like Faraday. I don't think he is scum.

Seriously I think anyone who actually reads his iso will make this turnaround.

Thank you for doing that instead of just telling me I’m defending a teammate.

BTW nova. My victim card keeps me focused on whose bad. You should let me keep it.

All right, lol.

But why didn't you thank me too when I also shared this read of DFaraday?

You hadn’t actively said the other thing as far as I recall, unlike nut and Mac who both voted for him. Mac, specifically, accused me of hard defending a teammate which is just not true (and something I don’t do anyway), so I was pleased he had seen the light.

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:42 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:38 pm Yeah Faraday sussed and then voted dead confirmed mafia SQ in a way that doesn't make sense to have been to mop up credit on a bus. It's not like Faraday. I don't think he is scum.

Seriously I think anyone who actually reads his iso will make this turnaround.

Thank you for doing that instead of just telling me I’m defending a teammate.

BTW nova. My victim card keeps me focused on whose bad. You should let me keep it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:40 pm nutella did vote for SQ as well. Does anyone know when she got her vote on? She tried to pin Faraday as a busser as well. At face value she doesn't look teammate compatible with SQ.

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:20 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:16 pm In isolation I am wondering if the perceived town leaders are really trying here.

This is why I find it frustrating when both my town read on df and scum read on TH are based on actual work and no one other than Nutella has actually shown any indication in engaging with this. It’s quite disheartening.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:09 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:59 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:50 pm I voted Marmot as a clunterwagon to DFs self vote but then Marmot self voted and then here we are difference is Marmot stuck around a lil and faraday peaced out

What if they're making fun of us in the Baddie QT? They made a bet both have to self-vote, and to see which one of them would get lynched.

Hmm I don't see it unless their team has imploded somehow. Marmot doesn't surprise me so much but this seems out of character for DF.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:09 pm Does anyone actually have a scum case on either Faraday or Marmot?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:06 am

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:28 pm Marmot - No real substance to posts until somewhat recently. The vote for Mac without reason kind of through me. I would be interested to

I think Sokoth is talking about the scum chat in this post, because I'm struggling to find these "substance" posts from Marmot he's referring to. The "somewhat recently" seals it for me.

Case closed. Marmot is bad

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:13 am It's been two days and I have no clue what he means by "throwing Mac under the bus". Also, I'm not sure how to explain it but the direct question to Marmot in this post is pinging me.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:12 pm With Marmot on the other hand, he goes about it in another way to mention his inactivity and attempt to interact with him by asking a direct question. That feel scripted, and that's not even taking into a account the content. "throwing mac under the bus" lol.
I'm also still trying to find the "substance post" that he allegedly recently saw from Marmot. Maybe I'll have to wait until the EoG to take a look into the baddie QT

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:50 pm I voted Marmot as a clunterwagon to DFs self vote but then Marmot self voted and then here we are difference is Marmot stuck around a lil and faraday peaced out

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:49 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:44 pm Speedchuck, Nutella and TH

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:18 pm Big save attempt on Faraday here

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:52 pm Oh, glorf. I thought you were responding to my first question not the second.

I hear you. I’m just comparing the activity in the heist game to here. I don’t think it’s inherently a problem to be quiet. But I do think it’s a problem when quiet is out of character or out of line with time on the site.

Linki - epi, interesting. I’ve been getting solid town vibes from him. I felt his wilgy case was reasonable enough, what I like less is people jumping on other similar throw away lines from sokoth now that it’s clear he was careless with town members in this way. I don’t think we can simply assume every off handed comment from sokoth means someone is his teammate.

This actually bothers me about nova. He was solid townreading wilgy but susoects marmot for a similar reason to epis case on wilgy.

Nova, what is the difference you see between Sokoths approach to wilgy and to marmot?

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:33 pm

Spoiler: show

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:30 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:36 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:29 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:08 am

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:55 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:48 am

What about me friendo?

I was expecting some heat seeing as I'm on the lynch poll

You too, but day three was the first time when you were posting and I thought ‘sounds town’. I can see a world in which you and TH are both bad but I can also see a world in which he’s pocketing you. I don’t really see your content as lending itself so much to you pocketing TH. So he’s a better starting point and assess you from there.

If I had this same poll without TH you’d be my starting point, and my questions would be why you started a CFD that ultimately resulted in a TH save and how you feel about the whole thing now.

The fact I tried to use the alignment check on you should tell you that my uncertainty in sincere.

Hmmm nice.

I'll go ahead and answer that question anyway. I started that CFD because I read both TH and Wilgy as Town, and I didn't want one of them to get lynched. If push came to shove I would have chosen TH over Wilgy (and push did come to shove lol.) I voiced my concern early on with the Wilgy lynch when his wagon started to take a lead, but no one listened lol. I also tried to get something going with INH as an alternative but that didn't take also. Enrique was someone, and still is, that I can vibe with his lynch. I don't have much on him, but I recall a place-holder vote on Colin he had and also some interactions that ensued that pinged me slightly. Also his whole announcement of votes D0 was weird stuff. A bit too much self-awareness for my liking. When push

DDL ended up turning me off when he got on it, lol. So I went back to Wilgy.

How is it that I did not turn you off when I voted for Wilgy, your civ read, but I did turn you off when I voted for someone you think is bad (Enrique)?

I was turned off from that one already. It was to save TH.

Yes, but in order to save TH, you would rather lynch someone you think is a civ (Wilgy) than someone you think is bad (Enrique)?

This has been the Nova/TH relationship all game.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:30 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:36 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:29 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:08 am

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:55 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:48 am

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:38 am

I saw DH say this. But why do you think that? What was it about his posts?

I looked at him after he made what I thought could be a slip when I said Luna looked worse, and looking back in his iso history his suspicion of sokoth seemed consistent. Much more consistent than, say, TH, who some have said started it. I came out with a light town read of DF after that iso.

I think TH is the most likely to have bussed sokoth.

What about me friendo?

I was expecting some heat seeing as I'm on the lynch poll

You too, but day three was the first time when you were posting and I thought ‘sounds town’. I can see a world in which you and TH are both bad but I can also see a world in which he’s pocketing you. I don’t really see your content as lending itself so much to you pocketing TH. So he’s a better starting point and assess you from there.

If I had this same poll without TH you’d be my starting point, and my questions would be why you started a CFD that ultimately resulted in a TH save and how you feel about the whole thing now.

The fact I tried to use the alignment check on you should tell you that my uncertainty in sincere.

Hmmm nice.

I'll go ahead and answer that question anyway. I started that CFD because I read both TH and Wilgy as Town, and I didn't want one of them to get lynched. If push came to shove I would have chosen TH over Wilgy (and push did come to shove lol.) I voiced my concern early on with the Wilgy lynch when his wagon started to take a lead, but no one listened lol. I also tried to get something going with INH as an alternative but that didn't take also. Enrique was someone, and still is, that I can vibe with his lynch. I don't have much on him, but I recall a place-holder vote on Colin he had and also some interactions that ensued that pinged me slightly. Also his whole announcement of votes D0 was weird stuff. A bit too much self-awareness for my liking. When push

DDL ended up turning me off when he got on it, lol. So I went back to Wilgy.

How is it that I did not turn you off when I voted for Wilgy, your civ read, but I did turn you off when I voted for someone you think is bad (Enrique)?

I was turned off from that one already. It was to save TH.

Yes, but in order to save TH, you would rather lynch someone you think is a civ (Wilgy) than someone you think is bad (Enrique)?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:29 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:08 am

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:55 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:48 am

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:38 am

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:33 am

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:04 pm I don’t like that everyone jumps on macs claim. I don’t like DFs self vote. I don’t like any of it.

Speed, nut, DDL, explain what was in your head?

I think DF is the most likely to have bussed Sokoth, and don't think he has anything going for him otherwise.

I saw DH say this. But why do you think that? What was it about his posts?

I looked at him after he made what I thought could be a slip when I said Luna looked worse, and looking back in his iso history his suspicion of sokoth seemed consistent. Much more consistent than, say, TH, who some have said started it. I came out with a light town read of DF after that iso.

I think TH is the most likely to have bussed sokoth.

What about me friendo?

I was expecting some heat seeing as I'm on the lynch poll

You too, but day three was the first time when you were posting and I thought ‘sounds town’. I can see a world in which you and TH are both bad but I can also see a world in which he’s pocketing you. I don’t really see your content as lending itself so much to you pocketing TH. So he’s a better starting point and assess you from there.

If I had this same poll without TH you’d be my starting point, and my questions would be why you started a CFD that ultimately resulted in a TH save and how you feel about the whole thing now.

The fact I tried to use the alignment check on you should tell you that my uncertainty in sincere.

Hmmm nice.

I'll go ahead and answer that question anyway. I started that CFD because I read both TH and Wilgy as Town, and I didn't want one of them to get lynched. If push came to shove I would have chosen TH over Wilgy (and push did come to shove lol.) I voiced my concern early on with the Wilgy lynch when his wagon started to take a lead, but no one listened lol. I also tried to get something going with INH as an alternative but that didn't take also. Enrique was someone, and still is, that I can vibe with his lynch. I don't have much on him, but I recall a place-holder vote on Colin he had and also some interactions that ensued that pinged me slightly. Also his whole announcement of votes D0 was weird stuff. A bit too much self-awareness for my liking. When push

DDL ended up turning me off when he got on it, lol. So I went back to Wilgy.

How is it that I did not turn you off when I voted for Wilgy, your civ read, but I did turn you off when I voted for someone you think is bad (Enrique)?

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:28 pm Marmot - No real substance to posts until somewhat recently. The vote for Mac without reason kind of through me. I would be interested to know why you threw Mac Under the bus.

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:28 pm Marmot - No real substance to posts until somewhat recently. The vote for Mac without reason kind of through me. I would be interested to

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:55 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:48 am

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:38 am

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:33 am

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:04 pm I don’t like that everyone jumps on macs claim. I don’t like DFs self vote. I don’t like any of it.

Speed, nut, DDL, explain what was in your head?

I think DF is the most likely to have bussed Sokoth, and don't think he has anything going for him otherwise.

I saw DH say this. But why do you think that? What was it about his posts?

I looked at him after he made what I thought could be a slip when I said Luna looked worse, and looking back in his iso history his suspicion of sokoth seemed consistent. Much more consistent than, say, TH, who some have said started it. I came out with a light town read of DF after that iso.

I think TH is the most likely to have bussed sokoth.

What about me friendo?

I was expecting some heat seeing as I'm on the lynch poll

You too, but day three was the first time when you were posting and I thought ‘sounds town’. I can see a world in which you and TH are both bad but I can also see a world in which he’s pocketing you. I don’t really see your content as lending itself so much to you pocketing TH. So he’s a better starting point and assess you from there.

If I had this same poll without TH you’d be my starting point, and my questions would be why you started a CFD that ultimately resulted in a TH save and how you feel about the whole thing now.

The fact I tried to use the alignment check on you should tell you that my uncertainty in sincere.

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:38 am

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:33 am

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:04 pm I don’t like that everyone jumps on macs claim. I don’t like DFs self vote. I don’t like any of it.

Speed, nut, DDL, explain what was in your head?

I think DF is the most likely to have bussed Sokoth, and don't think he has anything going for him otherwise.

I saw DH say this. But why do you think that? What was it about his posts?

I looked at him after he made what I thought could be a slip when I said Luna looked worse, and looking back in his iso history his suspicion of sokoth seemed consistent. Much more consistent than, say, TH, who some have said started it. I came out with a light town read of DF after that iso.

I think TH is the most likely to have bussed sokoth.

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:38 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:37 am This is about to be the game I've been the most active on TS

Long may it continue.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:42 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:37 am This is about to be the game I've been the most active on TS

Enrique wrote: ↑Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:30 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:27 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:26 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:26 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:25 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:23 pm SokothQultuq
7
39%


Voters: novaselinenever, Lunalee, speedchuck, Turnip Head, nutella, DFaraday, Kylemii

DrWilgy
10
48%
Voters: ColinIsCool, Dragon D. Luffy, MacDougall, insertnamehere, novaselinenever, DrWilgy, Epignosis, Lunalee, nutella, Turnip Head

Nova and Nutella both voted for Dr. Wilgy and SQ.

But Wilgy was a civ?

He was yes.

Ok I don't follow you.

Not really making a point to follow tbh.

Pretty sure they both voted for Mac on day 1 too. Luna also voted for all 3 lynchees iirc. Did anyone save the Day 1 poll?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:02 pm Well that's annoying. Why would mafia kill Luna?