The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:43 pm I need five more for Steely Dan Mafia.

I promise this will be a fun one.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 14#p516414

All right, I'm in

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:10 pm Leetic and Nova are town mvps. Both played a big part in DDL’s lynch, which allowed Leetic to go on and confirm two townies.

You were great. Sorry for lynching you

Thanks for the game Epi!

And mostly talking to myself.

I've been checking on the game like every half an hour or so lol.

I'm here to talk and have been throughout the day.

Why aren't voting Speed?

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:57 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:15 pm Juliets reaction to the DDL suspicion and her handling of him were red flags on my reread. She was acting a bit ignorant and saying stuff "except bla bla bla, what's the case on DDL" and she was mostly agreeing with stuff. She also mentioned the re-read of a previous DDL game before voting Jack, yet she didn't do it and reach the conclusion to vote him until I came in and pushed her for it.
First, Luna also made a post that was "except bla bla, bla whats the case on DDL" and you did not call her out. I ALWAYS ask questions like that, see any game I've ever played. Also I re-read the beginning to U-Pick first, didn't find what I wanted and went on to Community. That takes time. I found what I was looking for in Community and then shortly after you posted your "push". I AM NOT THE BAD ONE! But I don't have loads of time to argue with you about it. If you want to lynch me go ahead. Then afterward you can lynch speed.

Luna was the first one to express a gut read on baddie DDL, she beat me to it by a linki.

So you're certain that Speed is our last baddie?

Speed is second in line and I don't feel like repeating why is that. I don't think he did a suicide by Jack lol

I honestly think it's Juliets. Outside of the whole reread of her I did and the DDL interactions, I got some bad vibes when I was prodding her earlier. She wasn't arguing like I think a townie would, she was evasive and her mechanical talk trying to shade Mac and Speed felt disingenuous. The whole "did you ask epi about bla bla bla" and "someone's power when they get killed" is some shady defense.

Juliets reaction to the DDL suspicion and her handling of him were red flags on my reread. She was acting a bit ignorant and saying stuff "except bla bla bla, what's the case on DDL" and she was mostly agreeing with stuff. She also mentioned the re-read of a previous DDL game before voting Jack, yet she didn't do it and reach the conclusion to vote him until I came in and pushed her for it.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:00 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:31 pm I'm a Motion Detector and I can target someone to see if they performed an action which you did last night.
Heist games are limited to three roles.

We have a claim of Motion Detector, of Inventor, and of Jailkeeper. Jailkeeper is verified.

Three town power roles. All that against 2 scumpeople? Maybe. I guess.

If Nova is telling the truth, either Juliets is scum or she has a town role of some sort and Mac is lying scum.
If Nova is not telling the truth, he is scum.

Waitwaitwait.

@novaselinenever Let's assume that you, Mac, and Leetic are our three power roles. How did I not receive anything last night? Can't have a roleblocker. How did Juliets act? Can't have another civvie town role.

Something is screwy.

This is another point in Mac's favor. I don't think we have 1 power role for each faction, two civvie ones and the last one being a baddie makes the most sense. Also fake claiming Inventor is really risky unless he's a baddie inventor which also wouldn't make sense 'cause in that case, his items would have been sent to fake confirm himself.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:00 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:31 pm I'm a Motion Detector and I can target someone to see if they performed an action which you did last night.
Heist games are limited to three roles.

We have a claim of Motion Detector, of Inventor, and of Jailkeeper. Jailkeeper is verified.

Three town power roles. All that against 2 scumpeople? Maybe. I guess.

If Nova is telling the truth, either Juliets is scum or she has a town role of some sort and Mac is lying scum.
If Nova is not telling the truth, he is scum.

Waitwaitwait.

@novaselinenever Let's assume that you, Mac, and Leetic are our three power roles. How did I not receive anything last night? Can't have a roleblocker. How did Juliets act? Can't have another civvie town role.

Something is screwy.

You should have let Juliets and Mac answer and react. I'm not a Motion Detector obviously.

Linki - Are you sure about that lol?

Mac isn't helping either

It doesn't mean anything though unless Juliets is withholding information

Also the Jailkeeper is apparently weak against a Mafia role blocker. IF they block each other, the fk would go through nonetheless. That means Speed could be it, and he blocked Leetic to kill him and he's lying about not receiving Mac's items.

Also how can we have 1 posts in 14 hours?

We haven't won this game.

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:51 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:11 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:20 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:08 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:00 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 4:15 pm Do you visit people at night Juliet?
No I don't.
Then you're our last baddie.

If you're town please don't withhold any information like Leetic to avoid being a target. You're already one.
Juliets, you missed this.
juliets
nova I absolutely DID NOT visit Mac and block him. Believe what you will but that did NOT HAPPEN. Maybe someone else blocked him, maybe he forgot to send the invention, maybe speed is not telling the truth, maybe Mac is not an inventor. There may be more options but those are the ones that come to mind.

I am still in discord today dealing with security but I will try and check back here as the day goes on.

Then did you perform any other action and you're acting like Leetic? Don't stall information especially when it could save you if you're town. I don't think Mac's lying so it's between you and Speed.

I'm a Motion Detector and I can target someone to see if they performed an action which you did last night.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:20 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:08 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:00 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 4:15 pm Do you visit people at night Juliet?
No I don't.
Then you're our last baddie.

If you're town please don't withhold any information like Leetic to avoid being a target. You're already one.
Juliets, you missed this.

[mention]juliets[/mention]

I'm still waiting on Juliets clarification.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:07 pm Let me rephrase:

If the jailing doesn't take effect BEFORE the kill, then it can't block the kill on anyone. There would have to be a specific clause "does not effect mafia" for me to be scum.

You could still be a strongman though so slow down there partner.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:08 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:00 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 4:15 pm Do you visit people at night Juliet?
No I don't.
Then you're our last baddie.

If you're town please don't withhold any information like Leetic to avoid being a target. You're already one.

Juliets, you missed this.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:13 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:58 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:34 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:24 pm He was jailed last night, and no you haven't missed anything. Mac has been pretty apathetic
So you're saying that leetic jailing him would override him killing leetic? What makes you think that?
I'm leaning there yep. 'Cause it makes the most sense.
How does it make the most sense? It doesn't make sense to me. Why would his power go through if he was killed?

Action resolution.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:34 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:24 pm He was jailed last night, and no you haven't missed anything. Mac has been pretty apathetic
So you're saying that leetic jailing him would override him killing leetic? What makes you think that?

I'm leaning there yep. 'Cause it makes the most sense.

He was jailed last night, and no you haven't missed anything. Mac has been pretty apathetic

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:02 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 4:15 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:07 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 1:10 am [VOTE: Juliets] aubergine

Check your bowl of Corn Flakes
But wait, why me? And are you guys saying nobody got an invention? I want to understand these two things before I vote. (What does check your bowl of corn flakes mean?)
A bunch of reasons. PoE being one of them. Yes, we are saying that 'cause apparently Speed didn't get anything and he was the target.
How do we know that speed didn't get anything? And why wouldn't speed still be in the POE? Don't the same reasons you are voting for me hold for him? If not, please explain.

I don't, for sure. He's still there.

Not quite. He was jailed by a confirmed civvie jailkeeper.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:00 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 4:15 pm Do you visit people at night Juliet?
No I don't.

Then you're our last baddie.

If you're town please don't withhold any information like Leetic to avoid being a target. You're already one.

Do you visit people at night Juliet?

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:07 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 1:10 am [VOTE: Juliets] aubergine

Check your bowl of Corn Flakes
But wait, why me? And are you guys saying nobody got an invention? I want to understand these two things before I vote. (What does check your bowl of corn flakes mean?)

A bunch of reasons. PoE being one of them. Yes, we are saying that 'cause apparently Speed didn't get anything and he was the target.

I'm back to less than 5 posts of content. Come on people.

[VOTE: Juliets] aubergine

Check your bowl of Corn Flakes

Last thought before I dip, S2 doesn't make much sense at all. The only scenario in which a baddie Mac lies about his role is if he was a Mafia Inventor attempting to pass as a civilian one. However, in that case his items would have been received by civilians 'cause he'd want to confirm himself and they'd be no one to block him.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:22 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:11 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:00 pm day 3, is it lylo yet?
Looking forward to it?
no, I don't mind another day to figure things out.

Let's figure it out today and get the win

I've had a hectic day and haven't really re-read much to gather some new thoughts. Should be pretty busy this weekend, but I'll try my best.

Scenario 4 - I am bad and I'm leading y'all to your deaths *evil laugh*

Let's not consider this scenario please

Or I guess he can be a Mafia role-blocker depending on Epi's action resolution. Him and Leetic blocked each other cancelling the blocks, and the FK went through.

Very meh.

Add-on,

S1 - Would require Speedchuck to be an X-shot Strongman 'cause he was blocked.

There's 1 baddie left,

Scenario 1 - Speedchuck is lying about Mac's item and he's bad.
Scenario 2 - Mac is lying about his role and he's bad.
Scenario 3 - Juliets is our last baddie, a Mafia role-blocker. She blocked Mac to prevent him from confirming himself, and lead us into a showdown Mac v Speedchuck.

Unless you're a strongman

So it's Juliets

Spill the beans. You either received something or didn't.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:00 pm day 3, is it lylo yet?

Looking forward to it?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:32 pm Mac, report!

Got anything?

Checking in, been swamped today. Who's bad?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:35 pm What's the plan, I am sorry I haven't been paying attention to the game really

You and Leetic should target Speed. He gets lynched next phase most likely.

I can't wait for this night kill lol. It'll clear a lot of things for me.

Speed if it isn't you, who is it?

Well, that's a bummer. I'm sorry Jack

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