The Syndicate

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:51 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:51 am We yeeted all mafia, that's a win in my book.

Thanks for the game

no tc was mafia lol

i know lol, we did yeet him once which i was referring to

We yeeted all mafia, that's a win in my book.

Thanks for the game

NIK wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:07 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:22 pm @NIK save us

Thundercat wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:45 pm @NIK we need saving!

God is here.
what do you need

Bless with me your finest gun tonight

@NIK save us

might have confused his own swap and the tier 2 swap actions hmm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 6:53 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:23 pm as for the bus drive I mention to nutella, it was to prevent Nik getting blocked so she drives him around.

This doesn't work I just double checked the bargains and it's only a busdrive with one's own self, can't pick a random target so theyd know to block me if they wanted to target nik


Was a nice thought and some likelihood it wouldve thrown them off if they didnt know that before I mentioned it but prob just not gonna do it lol

oh for real? This was from Martin

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:59 pm Use tier 2 swap ability on NIK + NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Grand Scheme wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:21 pm I successfully negotiated Alison as my Day 0 pick, started at the end of Day 0, and then nutella was my Day 1 pick.

Look, I'm kind of having second thoughts with all this bad mojo coming from you...

I'll behave

Thought it started during the day hmmm, 'cause Alison shared the plan on D0/D1 without any night fall having taken place yet

Grand Scheme wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:38 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:23 pm Still got no invite from GC, feels bad man

Dude. I send in the target by Day. BTSC commences when night falls. That's it. There's no rehearsal dinner or pre-party.

What should I wear?

Still got no invite from GC, feels bad man

as for the bus drive I mention to nutella, it was to prevent Nik getting blocked so she drives him around.

But I mean we can chop him and still go through the plan of clearing the rest

Chop GC today --> 5 v 1 v 1 (going into N7)
Nik gives me the gun + assuming an NK --> I suicide onto TC + y'all yeet TC --> 3 v 1 (going into N8)
If game is going on, yeet 112 the following phase

There is a change TC is Mafia 4, there aren't in GC's case even with how shady he's been

poe is drunk

good good

waiting for GD to get back to me

Nutella can you take a tier 2 deal tonight?

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:14 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:13 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:11 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:43 pm Nanook were you blocked last night?

How would I know I’m a glorified VT

Seems to be that everyone is informed even if they don't perform an action, rather than someone just waiting for results. Think Nik was informed N2 although he don't do anything on even nights.

he was blocked n1 not n2 i believe? alison blocked him with her gd block n1 when he would have otherwise given out a gun then


unless im remembering another block from n2 but idts

Just checked it was N1 yeah

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:11 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:43 pm Nanook were you blocked last night?

How would I know I’m a glorified VT

Seems to be that everyone is informed even if they don't perform an action, rather than someone just waiting for results. Think Nik was informed N2 although he don't do anything on even nights.

Yeet TC, follow the plan

112 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:01 pm[VOTE: nova] aubergine

Wow

[VOTE: Thundecat] aubergine

So here's the plan. Nik, Joe and Nook are mod-confirmed. Nutella is never ever ever Mafia. I'm the closest thing to mod-confirmed but I can understand that 1% doubt of several tinfoil put together that has me as Mafia, especially with 4 other peeps confirmed. 112 is the closest to the closest thing to mod-confirmed. Grand Scheme is confirmed as Gambit Demon from several people. Then there is ThunderCat.

From my PoV, it can only be TC or 112 as the reason for the game still going. Either Mafia 4 or hostile indie. I'm leaning towards the former 'cause nightkills, unless it's some fuckery from the GD. Tutuu and Kyle were the last 2 supposed to bargain with him, but I put that more to Mafia 4 wanting to not have them reveal who they blocked confirming that person.

TC could be at tier 2, and get access to a tier 3 suicide kill which he'll survive according to tutuu's info. So if we misyeet, we could potentially only have 2 townies vs 3 non towns the following phase. We should yeet him this day, and make him unable to take a tier 3 deal tonight 'cause that'll kill him for good. I also still maintain my observation about Tutuu's results on him, I believe from a role design and normal modding practices, if he was 3rd party she should have received his wincon as it is part of the secrets of his role similarly to MR's when his secrets were revealed. So that leaves the option of him being Mafia 4 with that role,and the indie being amongst one dead people. Another point would be his ability of making someone else disappear not only him if he wanted, I don't see how that fits an indie trying to survive on their own after dying once. Why would he ever use that on someone else? One thought against is that him being Mafia 4 will make 2 Mafia be immune to a yeet at least. You can argue that Mastermind isn't really Mafia so his yeet immunity doesn't really make it that improbable for a real mafia to be 1-shot immune as well. Also there is the presence of the Pupeteeer with an NK and of a Vig, both the immunities are to death so they could have been to fight against those extra kills in case they hit them.

So we yeet TC for the reasons above, mainly to prevent a tier 3. Nik should give me a gun tonight, next phase I'll suicide and take with me one of 112/TC and y'all can yeet the other. That should do it.

Where the urgency at

Like that's your wincon out of the window if we were right about nook last phase

Thundercat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:42 pm I kinda wish I had though, then I could die tonight.

Why didn't you if you were at risk of never dying through a yeet with town closing in on eliminating all mafia?

Nanook were you blocked last night?

Thundercat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:37 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:29 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:12 am Also TH did you strike a tier 2 deal, and switch anyone?

TC

What'd you do to me??

Did you take a tier 2 deal and switch anyone?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:12 am Also TH did you strike a tier 2 deal, and switch anyone?

TC

Dormammu, I come to bargain!

GD, make a bargain with me. I'd like a deal

Hmmm 112 is right, rolecop makes little sense here. TH's role make no mention of specifically someone claiming so it's just matching role that could theoretically come from an RC, there was no successful oblit so if Mafia 4 is rolecop, how come their peeks didn't materialize into oblits

If anyone was rb'd, let us know

Off to bed

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:27 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:23 am The yeet definitely got stopped, so that's a mayor role. Mafia 4 being a 1-shot mayor is not something I want to believe lol

That's not what my theory was, my theory was he chose a dead town role to steal but it's so close to what sabie was so it seems p unlikely


I'm kinda feeling like we should just use the yeet on thundercat today and see what happens?

Yeah graverobber thing but like you said it's basically a variant of the doppelganger so big doubts. He's only mafia as a mayor which is unlikely as well

Mafia 4 could be a rolecop, and 112 rolecoped Joe as Seraph then just guessed you being the obvious target seeing the early phases hmmm

The yeet definitely got stopped, so that's a mayor role. Mafia 4 being a 1-shot mayor is not something I want to believe lol

We should have a mech way out of this, need answers to those 2 questions I asked above

I mean your role is not that unprovable. Don't see anyone else shooting Poly that night amongst the people that flipped without their role revealed.

Also TH did you strike a tier 2 deal, and switch anyone?

Was anyone role-blocked last night?

GD have you given Kyle a deal?

Think 112 not being blocked and being let track means Mafia 4 isn't a blocker

who could have even blocked her on N3? Has there been blocks outside of visiting Flanders in Martin's case or the Gambit deals?

Martin and Nik were told they were blocked specifically, so think if she was she'd know. Don't think it'd be ambiguous between the result that is "no secret"s and being blocked, that's shitty.

sabie leaking scum chat D3 had them thinking it was town favored

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:03 pm I completely destroyed all of jack/sloonei, poly, sabie, myo, mr the 3p that was prob worst 3p threat, and now nook, and called alison as lost wolf, i'm literally a fucking townie god

lmao

Made being mafia 4 goes against traitor's role, the secret only mentioned adding them to chat not like making them count as a member for number purposes. Mafia being eliminated should also be made public if the case I think

Hmm could see mafia seeing at so secret role since I refused TH as Mayor on grounds that they survived the yeet nor stopped it while also not really entertaining them as secret role unlike the rest of y'all

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:56 pm it's nova somehow but nah

please no more

And yeah that's very likely