The Syndicate

Sup, got a little but not really drunk last night and haven’t read anything

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

Got a bad vibe from Valentine’s entrance

I don’t have the patience to make a topster but I’ve been listening to a lot of Neil Young lately, Dylan, and the Tallest Man on Earth’s cover album. Accidental big fall mood

Do vibe with Strawhenge’s reads on pg 10

BTW I’m Kate Bush and 3P

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:58 am

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:36 am BTW I’m Kate Bush and 3P

...we just ignoring this or

Yeah apparently.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:17 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:36 am BTW I’m Kate Bush and 3P

Are you running up the hills to say that?

Anyway what is your wincon if you're 3p and what was your intentions of posting this?

My wincon is to learn what people’s roles are or something. My intentions of posting this were to see what would happen

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:23 pm

Schiavetto wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:08 pm

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:04 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:58 am

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:36 am BTW I’m Kate Bush and 3P

...we just ignoring this or

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I'm rusty on my mafia role lore; are there third-parties that aren't anti-town? Why would Colin just come out and claim third-party?

unless it's lingo and he's saying 'threep' aka 'threap' which means 'to scold; chide'

in some communities it's standard for 3rd party/survivors/etc to claim early as like, sign of good will/intent to townside yadda yadda

I'm trying to remember if this was something often done here in Colin's time

Definitely don’t think it was but I’m benign enough to the game that I don’t see a reason to not. People are gonna scumread me eventually anyway so

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:19 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:19 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:58 am

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:36 am BTW I’m Kate Bush and 3P

...we just ignoring this or

Yeah apparently.

Hey Colin! What's your role?

I think in generic terms it’s a friendly neighbor? Don’t remember all the Mafia lingo and haven’t ever seen a role like this tbh but I think I can prove it later

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:36 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:21 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:17 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:36 am BTW I’m Kate Bush and 3P

Are you running up the hills to say that?

Anyway what is your wincon if you're 3p and what was your intentions of posting this?

My wincon is to learn what people’s roles are or something. My intentions of posting this were to see what would happen

Oh.

Is it a game ending wincon?

Well what do you think of the reactions that you received?

I … can’t quite tell if it’s game-ending or not, but it’s possible that it could be, so if people don’t want to tell me their roles I guess I understand.

I don’t know if there’s anything to be gleamed from the reactions to me so far. Town and wolves can both go wut

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:50 pm If Colin is Running Up That Hill maybe if he guesses someone's role he makes a deal and swaps places with them.



Gambit demon flashbacks

I am Running Up That Hill but notably Kate Bush cannot make her deal to swap places in the song.

Schiavetto wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:18 pm 3P Kate Bush claimed Friendly Neighbor, right? Did she ever follow up w/ more explanation besides the whole role-hunting wincon? Afaik Friendly Neighbor is a necessarily town role.

So I looked it up and I think I’m just more of a neighbor or a mason kinda, not friendly neighbor.

TheFloyd73 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 6:30 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:26 pm

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:19 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:19 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:58 am

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:36 am BTW I’m Kate Bush and 3P

...we just ignoring this or

Yeah apparently.

Hey Colin! What's your role?

I think in generic terms it’s a friendly neighbor? Don’t remember all the Mafia lingo and haven’t ever seen a role like this tbh but I think I can prove it later

I mean, the role you get sent shouldn’t really have any lingo in it per se. Should have a more or less straightforward description. Can you elaborate on what your role is?

I get to talk to people at night

My role is what I said it is. I pick people and talk to them at night. I should be able to demonstrate this barring shenanigans. If you consider this “avoiding” your questions I don’t know what else to tell you.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:11 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:09 pm My role is what I said it is. I pick people and talk to them at night. I should be able to demonstrate this barring shenanigans. If you consider this “avoiding” your questions I don’t know what else to tell you.

Does picking them make you know their role? How does that work?

No. I think my role would only be confirmed through the other usual means, but I can’t do anything on my own to confirm my alignment, just the function.

& before anybody tries to tell me who to pick tonight so I can “prove it to the town”: No

I trust and agree with nutella and Strawhenge the most so far.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

TheFloyd73 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:30 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:09 pm My role is what I said it is. I pick people and talk to them at night. I should be able to demonstrate this barring shenanigans. If you consider this “avoiding” your questions I don’t know what else to tell you.

Look, I was just asking for you to elaborate, and you responded with something that was open to interpretation. I guess I’ll take your word for it for the time being.

I understand but I don’t know that there’s anything I can do to prove it’s not actually one of the alternatives you mentioned, so if you don’t wanna take my word for it, don’t

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:49 pm I am not sure how to feel about floyd talking to 3p slot so much.

Hunting them is certainly a classic scumtell, but I don’t know that Floyd has been egregious to that point yet.

I’ve got no problem with Strawhenge saying he’s not engaging with people at a certain point. I’ve done the same thing plenty of times as town. NAI at best

IBA wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:51 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:45 pm I’ve got no problem with Strawhenge saying he’s not engaging with people at a certain point. I’ve done the same thing plenty of times as town. NAI at best

After like a single sarcastic post mocking their attempt at a tellread? Do you play with actual babies?

No but I used to play a lot with Mac lmao got em

IBA wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:17 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:56 pm

IBA wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:51 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:45 pm I’ve got no problem with Strawhenge saying he’s not engaging with people at a certain point. I’ve done the same thing plenty of times as town. NAI at best

After like a single sarcastic post mocking their attempt at a tellread? Do you play with actual babies?

No but I used to play a lot with Mac lmao got em

Also lmao

I don't want to dig tho, Mac was actually the one who invited me to/informed me about this event cuz god knows I don't check in often. Which was big cuz we fought like fucking cats last game we were in together.

Let the record show in plaintext I love Mac

Mungbean wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:22 am The Colin stuff can go either way. I've never encountered a town-friendly third-party role to my knowledge, but that's not to exclude the possibility of it existing. I'm struggling to envisage a scenario where anybody would volunteer their role to Colin regardless of their public claim, so it seems an odd wincon to say the least. But the same logic applies if they're anti-town.

What if I ask really nicely?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:42 pm Why are we still discussing the drunk or Not drunk thing.

How is that moving the game forward? How is it alignment related

Feels a little contrived imo and not just saying that because I am a former frequent drunk Mafia townie. I don’t remember the name of whoever pushed it but when I do they’re on the list

What’s this Cape wagon about?

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:57 pm

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:52 pm

Valentine wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:49 pm wanted to GIVE MY VOTE A LITTLE BIT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED AND IF PEOPLE WOULD TRAIL ON
being proactive is a curse this is why i never try

anyways whatever i said about creature is out the window because everyone's like "oh but what if creature" but where's the drive to manifest it. he's not like doing anything.

damn this posts actually howls hard as fuck, you should've posted this before tr'd you smh.

very strongly disagree. The drive to actually commit to a creature wagon when the thread has been handwaving around him is very protown

Kinda hard disagree with your disagree

I wanna see what Creature does

[VOTE: valentine] aubergine

Valentine wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:27 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:22 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:57 pm

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:52 pm

Valentine wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:49 pm wanted to GIVE MY VOTE A LITTLE BIT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED AND IF PEOPLE WOULD TRAIL ON
being proactive is a curse this is why i never try

anyways whatever i said about creature is out the window because everyone's like "oh but what if creature" but where's the drive to manifest it. he's not like doing anything.

damn this posts actually howls hard as fuck, you should've posted this before tr'd you smh.

very strongly disagree. The drive to actually commit to a creature wagon when the thread has been handwaving around him is very protown

Kinda hard disagree with your disagree

I wanna see what Creature does

[VOTE: valentine] aubergine

TOWN!!!!

Thank you but I’m 3P

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:00 pm Colin has claimed 3p

Someone role copping him would be a delight

@players

I’m OK with this, but there are probably better uses of a cop tonight. If I am who I say I am, you learn nothing I haven’t already said when you could have gotten insight into somebody else, someone certainly more useful. If you get a different result, somebody messed with something and you walked into a trap that was kind oglf obvious because I’ve claimed. Then from there day 2 is “lynch colin he lied”, then I die and I didn’t, blah blah blah.

Really the best move is to just believe me

Valentine wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:02 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:59 pm

Valentine wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:27 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:22 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:57 pm

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:52 pm

Valentine wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:49 pm wanted to GIVE MY VOTE A LITTLE BIT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED AND IF PEOPLE WOULD TRAIL ON
being proactive is a curse this is why i never try

anyways whatever i said about creature is out the window because everyone's like "oh but what if creature" but where's the drive to manifest it. he's not like doing anything.

damn this posts actually howls hard as fuck, you should've posted this before tr'd you smh.

very strongly disagree. The drive to actually commit to a creature wagon when the thread has been handwaving around him is very protown

Kinda hard disagree with your disagree

I wanna see what Creature does

[VOTE: valentine] aubergine

TOWN!!!!

Thank you but I’m 3P

I trust you with my life

Who should I vote for and why come?

Can someone explain the Guillotine wagon in like …. 3 sentences

TheFloyd73 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 6:48 pm I go to bed for the night and then fifteen pages appear fifteen minutes from EoD. What's has been going on?

They used to sleep on the beach.

Thank you to all responders. I don’t know hardly any of these people, so your meta reads are my meta reads.

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 6:54 pm poor colin being wolf cuz of no 3p option

Tbh it might be town-ish to vig me because then you’d get info, but there might be a game theory numbers reason to keep me alive. I don’t know!

Have a good night y’all.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:10 pm

DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:09 pm

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:08 pm Raskol's in hiding today, 9 people are dead and only 1 was mafia

that's terrible odds for having 24 people

flip side: town killed one mafia, and, our 2nd wagon was 3p.

so, its just night actions that have fucked us

That was @ColinIsCool stealing creature role

What?

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:15 pm

DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:15 pm

DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:10 pm 16 vs. 4 vs. 1 vs. 1 vs. 1

soooo

8 v 3 v 1 v 1?

This is kinda right

but might be 9 v 3 v 1

or

8 v 4 v 1

depending on if Sabi is right, and, Colin became creature

Wonder If Colin takes creatures alignment too?

Sabi is right
If you ISO Colin you'll see it

You're all either colluding or very suggestible, lol. My role is to figure out other people's roles, I don't get to do anything other than that and if I did — if it had any utility whatsoever — I can't imagine I would have claimed it.

DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:05 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:04 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:15 pm

DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:15 pm

DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:10 pm 16 vs. 4 vs. 1 vs. 1 vs. 1

soooo

8 v 3 v 1 v 1?

This is kinda right

but might be 9 v 3 v 1

or

8 v 4 v 1

depending on if Sabi is right, and, Colin became creature

Wonder If Colin takes creatures alignment too?

Sabi is right
If you ISO Colin you'll see it

You're all either colluding or very suggestible, lol. My role is to figure out other people's roles, I don't get to do anything other than that and if I did — if it had any utility whatsoever — I can't imagine I would have claimed it.

how do you win

I get a point for each time someone in chat tells me their role. 3 points = victory

risiinq- wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:25 pm

DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:24 pm

risiinq- wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:23 pm nvm no it's still 9 v 3 v 1 v 1

how?

if creature's alignment is taken by Colin?

so when creature's alignment was taken, that means that they basically switched alignments which is why creature flipped colin's initial role and died (so 3 initial 3p -> 2 initial 3p)

that doesn't change the amount of wolves or town

I don't understand any of this. Doesn't Creature's flip say that Creature took someone else's alignment who dies at end of D1? How did I get Creature's alignment if I'm still alive?

DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:31 pm you two are wrong.

Colin has taken Creatures role and alignment

Creature dies flipping Colins role

Is how I interpret it

Not gonna mince words ... are you still drunk?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:57 pm just vote collin

One L please

DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:08 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:07 pm

DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:05 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:04 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:15 pm

DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:15 pm

DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:10 pm 16 vs. 4 vs. 1 vs. 1 vs. 1

soooo

8 v 3 v 1 v 1?

This is kinda right

but might be 9 v 3 v 1

or

8 v 4 v 1

depending on if Sabi is right, and, Colin became creature

Wonder If Colin takes creatures alignment too?

Sabi is right
If you ISO Colin you'll see it

You're all either colluding or very suggestible, lol. My role is to figure out other people's roles, I don't get to do anything other than that and if I did — if it had any utility whatsoever — I can't imagine I would have claimed it.

how do you win

I get a point for each time someone in chat tells me their role. 3 points = victory

Like in thread or do you have hoods n stuff

Neighborhoods

LordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:13 pm the implication I got was that Creature wasn't 3p that was whoever took his role

I didn't take it that way at all. That would be devious if true and I guess I can see where the leap is to accusing me since I'm openly 3p, but if so, it would be a different person.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:10 pm Ok so I just skimmed some old posts around pg 20 and also Colin's ISO, he's right, he did NOT say he steals someone's role, but I couldve sworn someone said they did because I don't believe that I was so drunk in the thread that I imagined someone saying it and then that exact role flipped.

Someone else theorized that but as I pointed out, the narrator in Kate Bush's song can't actually switch places with her partner (it's the point of the song ...) and neither can I. I know this isn't a defense, but ... I really can't. And if I could, I probably wouldn't have announced the possibility to the thread, lol

DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:14 pm Colin, I still dont understand how your role works.

What do you mean tells you in chat? idgi

So I target someone at night and I get to neighborhood with them. If I can get them to tell me their role truthfully, I get a point. If I learn someone's role some other way — for example through a flip or, for some unrelated reason, I learned someone else's night 1 — I don't get anything. If I get 3 points, I fulfill my wincon.

DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:16 pm lol Colin who did you hood each night

I targeted nutella two nights in a row but got Chelsea instead, which maybe makes sense given nutella's flip? I thought nutella would be amenable to sharing her role since we've played a lot together but sadly it was not to be

LordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:18 pm @ColinIsCool prolly about time to claim your full role bud

I think I've covered it.

DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:20 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:19 pm

DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:16 pm lol Colin who did you hood each night

I targeted nutella two nights in a row but got Chelsea instead, which maybe makes sense given nutella's flip? I thought nutella would be amenable to sharing her role since we've played a lot together but sadly it was not to be

and you didnt think she would die

Nutella or Chelsea? Well, either way, no. I'm not aware of any negative effects on people who I target/who choose to trust me. If they did die, then nutella would have been killed earlier, I think?

LordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:21 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:20 pm

LordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:18 pm @ColinIsCool prolly about time to claim your full role bud

I think I've covered it.

yeah posted at same time my b

No worries ... I just want to be clear that this is pretty much all it is. If there's more to it it's because I've misunderstood something from the mods LOL

LordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:19 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:15 pm

LordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:13 pm the implication I got was that Creature wasn't 3p that was whoever took his role

I didn't take it that way at all. That would be devious if true and I guess I can see where the leap is to accusing me since I'm openly 3p, but if so, it would be a different person.

I don't see how Creature would have died otherwise. What seemed to have happen seems perfectly in line with the roles mechanics

This is interesting. I took Creature's death as him dying before he could use that power, I think, but your reading could be the correct one

DeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:22 pm no I mean more

nutella was the only confirmed town player in the game (Mod confirmed), and, voted guillo.

you tried, two times in a row, to get in to a hood with them despite this. did you not think mafia would kill her?

Oh gotcha. Well I figured she'd be an obvious protection candidate so I felt good about my chances, better than if I were asking someone I have never talked to in my life.