The Syndicate

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:11 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:05 pm I think Kyle is good, but I could be wrong. I feel good about Fractal but I think we may be collectively underestimating him and should apply a little scrutiny. Speed’s vote on me feels a little like a lazy reversal, going with the flow of the thread because wouldn’t you? So it’s possible he’s posturing as I felt earlier.
I didn't vote for you

Ah, my bad. Thanks.

Speed could still use healthy skepticism as the game comtinues. Be vigilant.

I think that’s all I got.

Your marching orders after my lynch are as follows:

1) Lynch nutella and then use that info to understand the Long Con lynch better

(And/Or)

2) Lynch one of Turnip Head or Scotty

Golden could be bad. I don’t know that he buys my train completely either. Wary of INH. Luna is probably town. Sog looks bad, but he’s probably town.

Vompatti can be kept around or lynched, who the hell knows. Blooper pings me a little for reasons I can’t quite articulate. Lapluie hasn’t been here so I can’t say one way or another what she is, along with Marmot.

I think Kyle is good, but I could be wrong. I feel good about Fractal but I think we may be collectively underestimating him and should apply a little scrutiny. Speed’s vote on me feels a little like a lazy reversal, going with the flow of the thread because wouldn’t you? So it’s possible he’s posturing as I felt earlier.

Nutella may be town because I don’t know how likely she is to go after somebody as scum, but I think there’s a pretty good chance I was right about her and she felt she had to kick things into high gear.

TH’s vote on me felt quite easy, as did Scotty’s. These are more legacy reads.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:59 pm Still didn’t get done as much as I wanted.

Voted colin. I like the case and I don’t like the way he presented it as Nutella trying to save herself instead of a reasonable interactive analysis, which it was.

Bad. It’s a bad analysis.

I’m gonna go eat hamburgers and drink beer. Lynch someone else.

If I am getting lynched I may not be here in time for legacy posts, so I 100% guarantee one of the people on my wagon as it stands now (nutella, Turnip Head, Scotty) are scum.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:30 am
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:26 am I think nutella is bad and whipping up a case to try and make us forget about how close she was to dying. Her tone feels consistently false to me and I have a bad feeling that yesterday was two scummers pitted against each other. I’ll vote for anybody I have to in order to survive today though, because I am 100% not the dude you’re looking for.

[VOTE: NUTELLA] aubergine
Scummiest post of the game

If I’m scum, I vote for an easy target like lap who has votes already and may not even show up to fight back. I don’t double down on someone many people are categorically clearing. I also don’t tell you “I will vote for literally anybody else.” Take it to the bank, Turbup.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:31 am
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:26 am I think nutella is bad and whipping up a case to try and make us forget about how close she was to dying. Her tone feels consistently false to me and I have a bad feeling that yesterday was two scummers pitted against each other. I’ll vote for anybody I have to in order to survive today though, because I am 100% not the dude you’re looking for.

[VOTE: NUTELLA] aubergine
Nope I am genuinely trying to solve the game and since we got a scum flip I started to look at interactive reads and yours looked bad to me. Convince me I'm wrong.

You saw my scum game in Easter. The post about “I’m fine with an LC lynch,” sure, I’ll give you that I did the same thing with Choutas, but aside from that it’s not even close. I don’t go out of my way to talk to my team unless I’m bussing them on D1 of all days. Never ever would I make those posts as a teammate precisely because it’s so easy for someone to make a case on it.

I think nutella is bad and whipping up a case to try and make us forget about how close she was to dying. Her tone feels consistently false to me and I have a bad feeling that yesterday was two scummers pitted against each other. I’ll vote for anybody I have to in order to survive today though, because I am 100% not the dude you’re looking for.

[VOTE: NUTELLA] aubergine

Aside from nutella herself, I agree that we should look at the nutella wagon for suspects, which I understand I began. Those on Long Con’s team would have supporter me though.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:05 am
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:34 pm Long Con asks questions, but provides few answers.

Long Con, what do you DISLIKE?
early prod on LC, could be distancing

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:53 pm I have no qualms lynching Long Con. Then again, I pretty much felt like that about Dom.
ooooo i hate this post. light expression of being okay with lynching LC but the second sentence feels like a slight nudge away from it, like a subtle "hey guys let's not make the same mistake as yesterday" so not really supporting an LC lynch.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:55 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:28 pm has LC played actively as a civ in any recent games? he was walking around hitting things with sticks in upick and incredibly active in btsc.
This is a good observation
followed by this. ugh another light agreement with lc suspicion but ultimately unproductive. this is so bad

and his vote stays on me the whole day.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:12 pm Wow, that’s awesome! Gonna have to look at this one closely.
reaction to flip.

i think colin's bad yall

This is like, the fluffiest stuff ever. C’mon. You’re working backwards from the notion that I’m bad and making perfectly innocuous posts look “sinister” by telling peope “imagine Colin is bad here!” Nah. I ignore my teammates as much as I can get away with in a decent sized game, I would never do this sort of “distance-prod” you suggest.

I don’t know why the newsman has such a big crush on me.

I think all of sig’s posts are icky, in every game, ever.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:11 pm I do think that Golden’s vote to cement the vote against Lc is not necessarily clearing. It’s quite easy for a teammate to bus a teammate they obviously isn’t participating to their full potential for civ credit.

Golden has also said he happily busses the shit out of teammates when bad.

Yeah I agree with this, will need to see more.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:21 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:10 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:06 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:04 pm Scotty is afraid of me from seeing me in Easter, and I am afraid of him even more.
Are you trying to butter me up?

I haven’t forgot how you handled D1 and still think you’re bad because of it
I think you’re digging your heels in a la Daisy against me in U-Pick. I tend to attract that response I guess.
I don’t know how she handled UPick.

It’s just that your initial logic around how to vote D1 and then your reasoning behind that pick didn’t match up and read as a baddie taking an easy scenic route but not realizing you only have 1/10 of a tank of gas.
It’s ok, I’m the police and I’m here to give you a ride back to the station

I don’t think they’re as incompatible as you suggest

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:06 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:04 pm Scotty is afraid of me from seeing me in Easter, and I am afraid of him even more.
Are you trying to butter me up?

I haven’t forgot how you handled D1 and still think you’re bad because of it

I think you’re digging your heels in a la Daisy against me in U-Pick. I tend to attract that response I guess.

Scotty is afraid of me from seeing me in Easter, and I am afraid of him even more.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:54 pm Yeah I used to think Dom was Ramses but I was obviously wrong. So I’m probably wrong all around hunting for him.

My current scum/Ramses list is:
-Colin
-nijuu
-juliets

Nijuu is probably flying under the radar. I remember when i was bad with her in (rocky and bullwinkle?? Maybe?) a lot of her posts were fluffy excuses for her busy-ness. Granted, she IS always busy, but I found it superfluous when she was bad.

Her input to this point is 17 posts, which isn’t all encompassing suspicious, but I can’t say in my ISO that she has said anything substantial. Very much lurking

Sup

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:28 pm Why is Colin civ again?

It’s what was on my rolecard

Long Con and Marmot failed to vote yesterday. Per the tally Lapluie voted for the host option? So hard to say if LC did that one last night.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:23 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:59 pm I’m pretty sure scum nutella in FE adopted a hard bussing policy so I wouldn’t categorically clear her, but it does look better for her. She probably won’t be my leading candidate tomorrow.
How lucky/skilled would we be to have two mafia members up the same day though?

Happened to me and Sloonei on Day 2 in AG, I think.

I’m pretty sure scum nutella in FE adopted a hard bussing policy so I wouldn’t categorically clear her, but it does look better for her. She probably won’t be my leading candidate tomorrow.

Lmao, that’s literally all I can get from his ISO. Game’s solved folks

So we have this:

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:38 pm
sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:36 pm And im trying to feel like Epi and use complex things that make little sense to solve shush and let me have this moment. ;(
Maybe you should see if you an find a single instance of Epi catching baddies like that before you go whole hog on it.

I currently townread sig, but is LC the type to go after teammates like this?

Wow, that’s awesome! Gonna have to look at this one closely.

I’m leaving the gym now so I may be unable to text at EOD, but my vote is staying.

My sunburn is red as fire but feels fine so if I don’t get in this hot tub soon I WILL throw a tantrum

Gonna try to be around at EOD but no promises.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:28 pm has LC played actively as a civ in any recent games? he was walking around hitting things with sticks in upick and incredibly active in btsc.

This is a good observation

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:54 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:53 pm I have no qualms lynching Long Con. Then again, I pretty much felt like that about Dom.
What about the Vomp?

Hesitant to go after a player I’ve never played with and one that is so unreadable, but on thin ice I guess. I’d rather see them offer up some stuff.

I have no qualms lynching Long Con. Then again, I pretty much felt like that about Dom.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:11 pm From what I see of nutella's posts, she is very set on getting speed lynched. And speed is trying very hard in this game, which makes him a threat to town. I don't like that look on nutella. She also seems needlessly concerned with the King Ramses sock puppet account. At this point I don't see a reason to be concerned with a sock puppet account that posts random weird videos. And she's voting Lapluie, who I'm also looking at. So they are probably not team mates.

Lapluie looks like low-hanging fruit to me right now. She had a bit of a slow start, and appears to be struggling to keep up. I don't have reason to think she's not town, and I don't want to lynch her today, but I'll definitely be keeping my eye on her.

In fact, after looking at lapluie's posts, if just makes nutella seem that much more scummy for jumping from speed to lapluie. It's like she realized speed wasn't going down easy, so she found a easier target.

Kinda like this post a lot

I could get behind a lap lynch buuuuuut she’s also a perennially easy target. Her behavior isn’t aggressive so it’s not aggressively-town so it’s easier to conjure up that hey, maybe she’s hiding something.

I missed the spot where nutella said her most recenr thing about you. It’s more or less how I felt but if she’s serious about it and not just throwing out whatever (and feels able!) I’d like her to elaborate.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:14 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:11 pm Nutella's suspicion toward me is her one biggest towny redeeming factor. I want thoughts on this.
Specifically thoughts from @Fractal and @ColinIsCool, since they are voting for nut.

I want thoughts on everything else from everyone else. I am a thought glutton.

Rereading her ISO it doesn’t look like she has any real suspicion of you. Nothing substantiated anyway.

Re: lap, I’m generally skeptical of word-choice-scumslip arguments and she looks like she usually does but is much less active, which makes me wonder.

I suppose I’d like to get a better feel for nutella’s play in here and what she’s thinking by seeing who she suspects.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:05 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:48 am Speed, here are some GTH reads for you, no middle ground.

Town: Colin, Fractal, juliets, sig, speedchuck, lapluie, Lunalee, Blooper, Scotty, Turnip Head
Scum: INH, Long Con, nutella, Golden, Vompatti, Kylemii
Nice GTH.

Can you elaborate on the CHOSEN ONES?

I know it's GTH so you may not have reasons, but now is the time to find them.

Blooper/David Njoku has appeared genuine to me although there’s not a lot to go on and I have no experience playing with her.

Scotty doesn’t remind me particularly of his scum game in Easter, and while he’s capable of covering up, he gets a pass for now.

Turnip Head is unreadable but I like the guy and haven’t had a reason to see him as any different as before.

Golden’s introductory posts feel a little too nice for me.

I hesitated with Kyle because I was too eager to give him town cred in UP and it was not good. He feels like he’s just dipping his toes in.

My impulse is to automatically lynch people that I strongly read as town early on. I can’t remember how well that works out for me.

Neither can Ramses, for that matter.

Ramsey can’t be nightkilled I think.

And I forgot Marmot, so town.

Speed, here are some GTH reads for you, no middle ground.

Town: Colin, Fractal, juliets, sig, speedchuck, lapluie, Lunalee, Blooper, Scotty, Turnip Head
Scum: INH, Long Con, nutella, Golden, Vompatti, Kylemii

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:27 am Long Con seems more excited about screaming at the music videos than posting real content, so I'm going to look at him for a second.

He shoots down sig's proposition on day 1, but come on, who didn't.
He missed the day one vote.
He ended up on DDL's list of screaming banshees, but I'm not convinced that means anything.
Put off replying to sig with what he thought about the day 1 lynch.
Continues to scream back at King Ramses
Asks speedchuck and Kylmii why they voted for him (on what I assume was the day one poll?).

Overall feel on Long Con: He seems lazy in this game, and not very helpful. I give him a read of probably scum.

Have you familiarized yourself with DDL’s ideas about the screaming?

I haven’t gotten magic bagged in like, 10 months.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:40 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:38 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:39 pm Meh I think you can narrow it down more than that tbh. Ramses also wouldn't say right out that he enjoyed the music as speed, me, Kyle, and vomp have. maybe vomp though lol. I originally assumed it was just Rico himself controlling the sock, but since it is a role in the game it might be the player. But why not also think of who even *would* post those pieces. Like, juliets wouldn't, right? I think it's either Rico or someone else with funky musical taste like maybe vomps.

yes. I thought from the beginning that it was rico, but I was trying to consider who else it could be since it might make sense for the player to control it, but since I narrowed it down from a combination of people's reactions and music tastes I went back to thinking it was rico. ya dig?

No dig. Find a better candidate and maybe I dig.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:39 pm Meh I think you can narrow it down more than that tbh. Ramses also wouldn't say right out that he enjoyed the music as speed, me, Kyle, and vomp have. maybe vomp though lol. I originally assumed it was just Rico himself controlling the sock, but since it is a role in the game it might be the player. But why not also think of who even *would* post those pieces. Like, juliets wouldn't, right? I think it's either Rico or someone else with funky musical taste like maybe vomps.

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