The Syndicate

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine
[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:44 pm I misdirected kites

then you should have failed because you can’t target me
sniper is a buffed version of archer so basically I still have the same powers, but
a) the kill chance increase of my 1st power was increased
b) i can’t be targeted by fliers when I’m targeting someone with my 2nd power which is what I did

so are you the other scum who didn’t kill sprityo

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:26 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:44 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:41 pm we should consider that the mafia was able to kill epignosis through sprityo's protection, however sprityo was a known doctor and gwilikers didn't reveal his PHD until today, so he couldn't have been tampered with for that purpose, right?

I was thinking Gwil said something about doctorin yesterday

Nah I just said I had a new role. I wasn't going to reveal it until it was valuable to reveal. It's honestly a pretty shitty role and I wish I didn't upgrade, seeing as it'll only land if a footsoldier is responsible for the kill and I don't have the double vote power against scum thing any more.

cleric can upgrade to bishop but how are they different then?

there are no town/mafia counters cos the roles were drafted, the game was balanced with the secret powers given afterwards, me thinks

based on this horse thing i could actually go for a rdw lynch too

i still think drwhite lynch happened because one of his voters used a power or something

he has a double life though so it’ll be kinda frustrating

but kenway said he is a vig
does he still have the old power

bob didn’t remind us he has a horse and tries to distract cos he killed sprityo

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:32 am

Kites wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:31 pm anyways I didn’t allow fliers to target sprityo so nutella and sig didn’t do that if i wasnt misdirected

I am a doctor. I protected spirityo. So barring shenanigans only a horseman could have performed the kill.

bob has a horse

process of elimination
[VOTE: colonialbob] aubergine

have at it

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:38 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:49 am there are only two mafia left and only so many players who could even possibly be mafia based on mechanics and shit

this game is absolutely solvable by process of elimination at this point, i think

unless my math is wrong, we have 3 chances to get our next mafia lynch (unless speedchuck is mafia in which case we only have 2 chances)

if we can narrow down our communal suspect list to 3 most likely scum players then that would go a huge distance towards a victory

Strictly mechanically:

If gwilikers is town, Kites is town. If Kites is town, neither Sig nor nutella made the kill last night (doesn't prove they aren't mafia but is a point in their favor).

If Kenway is town, I didn't make the kill last night (same as above).

Any other mechanical clears?

make that two points for nutella and sig

Kites wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:42 am i prevented fliers from targeting DDL

hmm makes sense
[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

he has said several times he copped DDL so it’s a weird mistake but let’s hear him

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:46 am

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:38 am **** ****** ******* Ring

This was TonyStark’s PM last night. Which lines up perfectly with what happened. If he was scum he probably would have had some other power, but then again it may be a passive one.

Lol. I targeted Tony too. He IDs from Goodguyia.

@TonyStarkPrime, please explain why you claimed to be from Badguyia.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:15 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:13 pm It should be noted that these misdirections are largely targeted to a random other player. This isn't like a bus drive wherein the new target is specifically selected.

Well whoever misdirected me, thanks...now we have no idea who I targeted and wasted a positive ID.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:49 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:38 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:36 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:53 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:08 pm I suspect DDL and to a greater degree Marmot, so I'd say no.

Neither of these players are scum, barring misdirections.

We are beyond being coy, and the rules permit dumps. Dump.

....what more does he have to say? he has a cop role and he's already cleared Marmot before, idr about DDL, but like.... I think this is self-explanatory

Yeah, I dumped Marmot on D4. DDL was my first check, back on N1

THIS DOESN’T ADD UP

dunya targeted Tony nd was misdirected on n1 and speedchuck says he got a result on DDL n1

[VOTE: SPEEDCHUCK] aubergine

there’s no reason for him to be alive as he will become a bigger threat to mafia everytime the number of players goes down

[mention]Kylemii[/mention] yes I did target gwil

anyways I didn’t allow fliers to target sprityo so nutella and sig didn’t do that if i wasnt misdirected

nvm i read it again, it was ring

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:18 pm

Kites wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:13 pm it doesn’t say that sprityo was killed by anyone

Clearly it was Ring though. Flavortext, right?

on previous nights it was like ”___ was killed by mafia/critical hit”

it doesn’t say that sprityo was killed by anyone

Kenway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:40 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:31 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:37 am Another observation. Everyone gushes that speedunya is town. yet he's still alive

while every single other town/townish player has been killed

Kites, Kenway, Speeduyna, and perhaps nutella is whom I'm looking at.

Dunya had a very strong early game, but I do feel like Speed is coasting a bit more.
Kenway I don't like him not being in BTSC.

My tinfoil scum read is still rdw.

Don't worry, got promoted. I have a vig and I'm using it on you tonight. Hasta la vista, siggy!

you better explain how you knew it was a vig before you promoted

i should have probably picked ranger too then

bob how’s your promotion? you haven’t talked about it at all i think. neither did dwarf. the same goes for speedchuck and sig too actually

well quin had a crit kill too if he was a swordmaster but nutella could have done it too

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:47 pm

Kites wrote: ↑Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:56 pm @nutella

you promoted to what? and what does the role do?

I misdirect every night instead of every other and it has a crit chance, there's one more detail to it that I may or may not decide to reveal

chance to crit kill? you killed colin and mac lol

reading dwarf’s ISO I want to lynch nutella next

[mention]colonialbob[/mention]
take a look at the role list and you can see that no two roles have a power with a same name, the same goes for promoted roles. if even one person comes forward and says his/her promoted role has a power with the same name as the pre-promotion role did, I’m not cleared. But that ain’t happening

speedie finish what you started yesterday

we’re running out of time and it looks like it’s gonna be between kenway and dwarfie

[VOTE: iron_dwarf] aubergine

Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:07 pm @gwilikers6 @Kites Kenway train if rundontwalk doesn't suit you?

I don’t feel a Kenway lynch. I’d be fine with lynching you tho

so is the time up or not?

everyone listed here is civ imo and wouldn’t lynch

rdw: his typical behavior p much. his vote/action points to promotion check out. if he is scum and received double life in the beginning i think he’d have tried harder to not become lynched since it would be a waste. also I dont think he wouldn’t have waited until night 7 to fakeclaim it

speedchuck: civ behavior really, can’t find anything rly bad despite trying hard

kenway: not that it would assure any of you, also i dont give a shit if you dont, but i simply think his posts are genuine. guys a civ who couldn’t keep up with the thread and post useful shit cos real life stuff. i might be wrong but I’d feel bad for voting him cos I don’t think he is scum and i hve played against scum kenway before. his vote/action points to promotion check out

kylemii: the problem is that his role doesn’t promote so he doesn’t have to lie about night actions if he’s scum. i liked his background search on my lost brother thingy. i have no reason to believe he is scum. also the ttownfirming epi thing, esp when he was suspected by many

gwilikers: it’s been proven he used his monk power = he didn’t promote in the beginning. next.

sprityo: Kites:

yeah i’ll do it when i can

i think all those 5 names you couln’t townread are civs tho

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:32 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:01 pm I would like everyone to go through and list every living player and say why they think that player could be town. plz make note afterwards of which players are the hardest to answer the question for.

rundontwalk - we'd have to have 2 baddies as the two trains on D6
speedunya - dunya seemed townie.
kenway -
kylemii - townfirmed Epi, this exercise
gwilikers6 - voted out lapluie
nutella - her voting record is on point, and she's been pushed against by both revealed mafia
Iron_Dwarf - His last couple days feel like town trying to solve. His re-evaluation of me helps (I don't *think* I'm being affected by the fact that it's me, except for knowing that I'm town, but obviously I can't be sure)
sprityo - trying to solve. Most confident here.
sig - good vote on quin, would've expected more deaths if he was mafia
Kites - solid vote on Quin

Legitimately can't come up with a single reason to townread Kenway. Kites, Kyle, gwilikers, RDW were also difficult, in roughly that order.

@Iron_Dwarf would you follow me to Kenway?

this is so half assed i’d vote you just for this

nutella - iron_dwarf - cbob for the remaining scum team how’s that

[mention]nutella[/mention]

you promoted to what? and what does the role do?

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:37 pmLol.

come on im serious

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:55 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:35 pm I really need you guys to focus in here cause we’ve lose basically any player willing enough to be active

Mafia are obviously scared and we are on their tail

Iron Dwarf, I don’t care if you want RDW Lynched now, the fact stands mafia killed Epi through my protect so one of the people with misdirects is at fault here

So the question begs is it Cbob or Nutella?

@colonialbob who was your target
@nutella who was your target?

You know, I kinda think you're scum. You claim to have targeted Epi every night, even though there have been much more attractive scum kill targets every night except for last night. Seems like an easy way to generate fake night action claims to me. And now with this post it looks like you're trying to set up our next two lynches. Plus, let's not forget that scum have already had a misdirector in Quin. And the first two lines of this post just seem very fake to me.

i think the doctor loop was clever but of course there must be a way to break it somehow. i’d say sprityo is civ based mostly on gaining epi’s trust in their btsc, it would be very difficult to lie convincingly to him in a private chat

day 1

Kenway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:22 amWhy not the other players who have barely posted, like that Lapieu person? I honestly am struggling to recall a post from Lapieu.

Kenway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:51 pm So are sig and laplieu scum? Reading the thief role, it says all scum are from the Badguyia nation. I say that's pretty laid of clearly.

if kenway is scum i think he would have spelled her name correctly, having btsc with her. then again this might be a clever attempt to keep distance but Im willing to believe it’s not

who did you use it on?

oh okay nvm then

so far it has only worked once? on lap

too tired to check

[mention]speedchuck[/mention]

where’s the cop result man

oh and i prevented fliers from targeting gwilly and me but apparently bob misdirected me

Kenway wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:13 pm

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:12 pm

Kenway wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:06 pm I am asking to be promoted as a Mage Knight, which supposedly has dayvig powers, so sig and colonialbob, your posts are numbered

What? How do you know this?

I can feel it in my bones.

Mage Knight
”Anima magic and staff wielding mounted knight known for her speed and firepower”

if it’s actually a day vig i want you dead asap cos i have no idea how this would make you think of it, DAY vig specifically

like misdirection

this happened cos speedchuck stole a vote?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:31 pm This is the 3rd time out of 3 that I see Bob make an opportunistic vote on Quin after other people started lynching him.

i liked this. also after this bob stopped flip flopping with his votes, he just votes once and very early in the day phase, maybe to avoid being opportunisdtsn) so thats a slight change in behavior. first he was lynching rdw and now sig, both of them heavily suspected on the previous night , easy choices mm

[VOTE: colonialbob] aubergine

good night im v tired

just an observation, useless probs but why not post

thumb is mentioned to be wielding an axe in two night posts (6 and 5)
promoted roles that use an axe (among other weapons):
great knight/general - iron_dwarf
great knight/paladin - rundontwalk
hero - colonialbob

Jack clearly puts a ton of effort and detail in his night posts but I don’t know if he would actually put details that would help in scum hunting there

there isn’t anything about pointer and middle that would connect them to quin and lap though so you can’t really draw any conclusions me thinks

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:06 am Speedchuck (formerly Dunya)
Epignosis
Sprityo
Rundontwalk
Nutella
Kenway
Kylemii
Colonialbob
Gwilikers6
Kites
IronDwarf
Sig

I would not lynch the top half of this list.

Right now we have 3 scum among 12. Assuming shenanananigans and scum power, They may have the equivalent of 5-ish people. 5v9 ish. We can handle one or two more mislynches.

why do you suspect me and gwilly?

quote=dunya post_id=410683 time=1518784910 user_id=446]
@Quin - have you seen a scum lapluie in action before?
[/quote]

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:42 am If lap was don, Quin would be on her team tbh imo.

uh these posts are, let’s just say, interesting

how about we stop giving speedchuck a free pass? i went through dunya’s iso and huge amount of her posts is fluff and game mechanics stuff. she talks a lot but doesn’t say much.she is questioning everyone and asking people to elaborate their posts but doesn’t get much heat in return. she has a very diplomatic approach to this game, like she does a crap ton of observations based on meta and shit but doesn’t give much opinions which is what scum dunia does imo.

speedchuck’s result ”clearing” lapluie? yall remember epi’s exercise? dunya was the top pick. do you believe there are no big mafia names in the scum team?

also the claim to be from allyia is an anomaly, no one else has claimed to be from a country other than goodguyia and badguyia

anyways I can’t point to anything specifically scummy, they’re both very good at this game anyways so that’s expected, i just want others to be wary of him

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:52 am

Kites wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:42 am i prevented fliers from targeting DDL

Assuming that's true, neither nutella nor sig could have killed DDL.

Rediections, blocks, etc etc.

I am not interested in trusting shit you say or things anyone else says about their Night actions. They aren't reliable and people can lie about them.

Are you lying about yours?

i have no reason to lie. it didn’t fail so it wasn’t blocked but it could have been misdirected yeah