The Syndicate

Kites wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 2:55 am
Lunalee wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:41 pm Unfortunately my role failed tonight. Ugh.
Who did you target btw? I assumed it was Eloh but I remember you asked if I had claimed my alignment. Did you target me instead?

I wanted to target you, but apparently I was blocked from doing anything.

Unfortunately my role failed tonight. Ugh.

rip [mention]Spacedaisy[/mention]

thanks for playing with us.

lol, [mention]juliets[/mention] , I'm wondering why I'm still alive too.

Kites wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 9:30 am
juliets wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 9:06 am I participated yesterday and got pounded unfairly. I likely won't make that mistake again today unless there are several people involved in a discussion. I hope someone will step up and keep the conversation going. @Kites I have defended you twice now, I would appreciate hearing some of your thoughts about where we are.
I wish I had stuck with Eloh now. dunya kind of convinced me + speed doing the last minute reads based on roles (which seemed fake cos it’s been proven roles aren’t alignment indicative and lynching someone for not claiming is a weak reason) made me switch

I hope luna can reveal something good the next day, provided she doesn’t get killed, or that she isn’t bad

Whatever luna says we can’t blindly follow, we must lynch a baddie or we are done

Kites, tell me your alignment please.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 8:01 pm Cool. Whew.

Y'all better figure things out (and there better only be two scum)

so sad

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 8:00 pm 60 seconds, Luna better not vote

im not

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:58 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:58 pm this is dumb. I'm so tempted to vote kites
Don't you frweking dare

somebody better frweking switch then

this is dumb. I'm so tempted to vote kites

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:53 pm I've focused on roles for like two weeks eight years and don't really know how to read without them. Voting Juliets or Luna or Daisy would go against my very being.

This game is an existential crisis for me.

lol, just hope juliets doesn't flip as a mafia stump.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:50 pm It might make Luna predict the same thing two nights in a row. There won't even be 7 players tomorrow.

that would be lame. [mention]Elohcin[/mention] if you survive and want to use your role, check with Epi to see if it would be helpful to use it on me.

If we're going to hot-potato somebody, I think Kites is a fine option.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:47 pm Based on a priority: ACTIONS, ROLES, NOTHING:

Long Con
dunya
Elochin
Spacedaisy
juliets
Lunalee
speedchuck
Kites

linki: Luna's role isn't a night action?

the prediction is sent in at night soo maybe that would let me change the number I sent in? Not that I need that today, unless I decide to vote.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:46 pm Her role forces you to
Use it on the same person two nights in arow

oh, so same person, but different posts?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:46 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:44 pm wait, @Elohcin would your role allow me to get a second lie detect?
See this is a good idea!

if she doesn't get lynched...

wait, [mention]Elohcin[/mention] would your role allow me to get a second lie detect?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:42 pm Has Kites claimed? Just curious.

i don't think so. He's sort of just skated by on his daily poll analysis update

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:50 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:42 pm @dunya did I miss your role claim?
Am I on the lynching block?

I only role claim when I think not role claiming hurts town. Today is not that day. Unless you guys are hot potatoing me, I need to see more votes on me and I'll role claim. And you're all gonna be very upset with yourselves.

LOL, you're not on the lynching block (yet), but the way you pushed Eloh to claim I thought you would have already claimed by now. You just did that because she was getting lynched then?

I won't be voting in the hopes of keeping 7 votes on the poll, but do know that I would prefer a spacedaisy vote today.

[mention]dunya[/mention] did I miss your role claim?

I still firmly see juliets as civ as well.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:34 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:31 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:25 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:08 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:04 pm I voted dunya because I feel like she is trying to create suspicion about the role juliets has. It makes no sense. The only way juliets is bad is if her role has a hidden description like Mac's did. Which is entirely possible.
So why did you vote for me?

Why is a silencer or insanifier ok to be town and a stump or "lie detector" can't be bad?

If someone can tell me a logical reason for that, I will vote for whoever the hell you want me to vote for.
Two reasons. 1. because I suspect you are trying to create as much doubt about people as possible because you don't want to end up in a tiny PoE. Juliet's role does not make any sense as a baddie. Jack's had actual utility as a Baddie role. What need does a baddie have for an LD?

2. Because I'm more ok with lynching you and discovering it was a mislynch than Elo because I know you are running yourself into the ground over a game and I don't want to see that happen.
It looks like you think both Eloh and Dunya would flip town if lynched. We are at mylo I believe? Either way, it does matter who we lynch. I don't want to trade one townie for another just because they seem to be getting tired of the game.
incorrect. What I mean is if I lynch Elo and she flips civ, Im really going to regret not voting dunya.

If I voted dunya and she flips civ, I would be perfectly ok with that for the reasons stated. I would have zero regret.

okay, but I would regret it. Hopefully we can avoid that today and lynch mafia.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:34 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:32 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:29 pm Elo plays specifically for her husband. I don't know see her ignoring that role. I think her teammate has it and didn't use it for those reasons. I think she is hoping claiming it will help her look more civ.
okay, if her teammate had that role and didn't use it, who do you think that would be?
Probably dunya.

No way. None of that theory makes sense.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 1:47 pm If we are working against 3 mafia members today is MyLo. A mislynch and we lose.

[mention]juliets[/mention] because of this.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:29 pm Elo plays specifically for her husband. I don't know see her ignoring that role. I think her teammate has it and didn't use it for those reasons. I think she is hoping claiming it will help her look more civ.

okay, if her teammate had that role and didn't use it, who do you think that would be?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:25 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:08 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:04 pm I voted dunya because I feel like she is trying to create suspicion about the role juliets has. It makes no sense. The only way juliets is bad is if her role has a hidden description like Mac's did. Which is entirely possible.
So why did you vote for me?

Why is a silencer or insanifier ok to be town and a stump or "lie detector" can't be bad?

If someone can tell me a logical reason for that, I will vote for whoever the hell you want me to vote for.
Two reasons. 1. because I suspect you are trying to create as much doubt about people as possible because you don't want to end up in a tiny PoE. Juliet's role does not make any sense as a baddie. Jack's had actual utility as a Baddie role. What need does a baddie have for an LD?

2. Because I'm more ok with lynching you and discovering it was a mislynch than Elo because I know you are running yourself into the ground over a game and I don't want to see that happen.

It looks like you think both Eloh and Dunya would flip town if lynched. We are at mylo I believe? Either way, it does matter who we lynch. I don't want to trade one townie for another just because they seem to be getting tired of the game.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:26 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:24 pm I'm actually more suspicious of Spacedaisy right now than Eloh or Juliets. She's added enough to the above finger-pointing to look involved, but seems to just be swaying back and forth with juliet's and dunya's opinions.

linki Kites! you see it too!
I think there is a good chance it is Elo and dunya together, thus my vote wobbling between the two.

And my opinion has not been swayed by either of them. In fact I argued against some of the things said because I think they were flawed reasons.

ok, but you say Eloh's role and her lack of using it looks bad. Why? I sort of get it, and I think she looks town for that.

I'm actually more suspicious of Spacedaisy right now than Eloh or Juliets. She's added enough to the above finger-pointing to look involved, but seems to just be swaying back and forth with juliet's and dunya's opinions.

linki Kites! you see it too!

I still feel like Eloh is town. Why would she role claim what she did and even admit to not using it if she were scum? If she does have a "do it again" role, it would have been useful as scum. Eloh has gotten frustrated with this game because of unfair approaches of playing mafia, like lynching Mac while he was away. It doesn't surprise me at all that she would rather play a fair, straight-forward game and refuse to use a role that might mess that up.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:38 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:20 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:17 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:15 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:00 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 10:22 am
juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:15 pm

No. She evidently did not count on you voting at all.
That's strange, I'm pretty sure I've voted in every lynch poll so far.
LC I'm probably mistaken. I just repeated what I thought speed said.
I didn't think long con specifically wouldn't vote, I just picked the number.

linki, woah. Hi dunya.
hi!

since you're here, and this is the same topic that has bothered me. why 9? when you knew we were 11 people, 1 inactive (neverwhere), why did you pick 9 and not 10?
It was incase someone didn't vote. I probably should have been smart and held off voting until the end, but I didn't. Suggestions for tomorrow's number? 8?
do you have to submit the number before the end of night? we are down to 9. if a kill happens tonight, 8. i would go with 7 and maybe you can hold off voting until the end if you're willing to be around just before day ends. you know, in case someone misses a vote cos "it's the weekend" (hi speedchuck). or maybe 8 and we force everyone to cast an early vote to make sure you can prove your ability the next phase.

yes, it is submitted before end-of-night. I'm going with 7, and will hold off voting unless I need to. I'll be sure to let everyone know where my vote would go though.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:17 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:15 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:00 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 10:22 am
juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:15 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:06 pm Ok, but voting DDL means Luna gets a lie-detect. Right?
No. She evidently did not count on you voting at all.
That's strange, I'm pretty sure I've voted in every lynch poll so far.
LC I'm probably mistaken. I just repeated what I thought speed said.
I didn't think long con specifically wouldn't vote, I just picked the number.

linki, woah. Hi dunya.
hi!

since you're here, and this is the same topic that has bothered me. why 9? when you knew we were 11 people, 1 inactive (neverwhere), why did you pick 9 and not 10?

It was incase someone didn't vote. I probably should have been smart and held off voting until the end, but I didn't. Suggestions for tomorrow's number? 8?

juliets wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:00 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 10:22 am
juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:15 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:06 pm Ok, but voting DDL means Luna gets a lie-detect. Right?
No. She evidently did not count on you voting at all.
That's strange, I'm pretty sure I've voted in every lynch poll so far.
LC I'm probably mistaken. I just repeated what I thought speed said.

I didn't think long con specifically wouldn't vote, I just picked the number.

linki, woah. Hi dunya.

Kites wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 3:32 am Day 1 votes starting to look interesting now

There might be someone fishing for civ points, by voting for Mac. Looking at luna, possibly spacedaisy. My late vote is just as suspicious but you be the judge, I know I’m good

I doubt Mac was the only mafia voting nutella, looking at Eloh. Worth noting JJJ also had vote on her

JJJ has been after lurkers since day 1, it’s funny how each and every one of them turned out to be civs

Jay staying after the low-posters does look bad. I don't like it now that you've pointed it out.

Kites wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 3:32 am So basically DDL made the day 4 poll really easy for mafia, unfortunately. Bet JJJ loved that poll. The only person on the lurker poll who isn’t a confirmed civ by now was Luna. Might go back and check how everyone interacted with luna that day

Dang, DDL really did make a poll of all civs then. If he didn't get lynched yesterday I'd be suspecting him for that big-time

Kites wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 3:32 am funny how it’s always JJJ who notices the mistakes in host posts, and now this deleted post thingy

Granted, the post quoted of one of his posts. Not surprised at all if he saw it.

Kites wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 3:32 am I’m tinfoiling JJJ so hard now

Good thoughts, Kites. Thanks for you input.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 9:05 am Everything is good, thanks juliets.

Everyone should give a conclusive statement on their alignment for Luna to lie detect.

I am a member of the civilian faction.

I did not gain a lie-detect. I predicted 9 players would vote today, but 10 voted. Speed jumped to "non" which doesn't count.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 9:13 am I'm back, I have had coffee, and my meds are helping....

First of all, I just about forgot LC was even playing, haha.

Second, Jules said I was here but had nothing to say. The past few days, I have had time to catch up mostly but not to post. The walls of text and the amount of posts makes everything feel like work and I already have a job and a family to tend to. Look at LC a moment. See how much he has posted? If he hadn't lucked out on his one awesome act which showed he was def civ, he would be in the POE for sure by now, probably even dead or mod killed. But....If I decide that this is too much work for me (now that I have already tried to get involved and participate), and if I drift away and stop participating, I am all of a sudden a huge suspect. Why? I am just acting like Rey, or LC, or neverwhere. But b/c I was once involved and am now over it, I get suspected. Stupid. So, number one reason I have been quiet is apathy, number two is RL, and number 3...I had been set on Luna as a great lynch candidate so I felt I didn't need to be so talkative. Remember back when votes were not changable. If you had your mind set and voted, you were not expected to keep yapping all day long. Why now? No thank you.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 7:07 pm @Elohcin if you come back on would you please tell us some civ things you have done this game?
Please, @Juliets, tell me. What IS civ behavior? How many times have I been lynched as a civilian. SO MANY TIMES! Do you think I really care what anyone thinks is civ or baddie behavior? Not really. Y'all are gonna do what y'all are gonna do no matter what I do.

posting now...I have an appointment...be back soon

Elohcin, I see you brought up Long Con. I had a thought last night. He could totally be scum and worked out a plan with his team to claim that Jack was scum, effectively buying civ credit so he could coast to the end of the game. I'm not saying it's likely, but it would be possible. Do you think he would do something like that?

Yesterday was pretty frustrating for me being cursed and all. [mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] do you gain anything out of cursing a player? Because when I agreed to it I assumed you would get a role peek or something. I guess I should have asked before agreeing, and role claimed in my own words before being cursed.

Also I did tell speedchuck my accurate role, and I'm convinced he switched it around in his head and mis-remembered it.

If there were any other misunderstandings I wasn't able to communicate yesterday, please ask. I'll be around.

oh wait, looks like speed jumped to "non" which doesn't count. nvm.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:15 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:06 pm Ok, but voting DDL means Luna gets a lie-detect. Right?
No. She evidently did not count on you voting at all.

So actually I only have to predict the number of players who vote in the poll the next day. I guessed 9, and it looks like we got 9.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 7:58 pm Lame.

Gonna be frank here: someone deleted a post. Whoever it was needs to tell Epi. Anything less is literal cheating.

This isn’t some fucking mafia ploy. It’s BULL. Fess up.

Are you talking about my previous role-claim post? Epi deleted it himself and sent me a pm about it. I strung too many consecutive words together from my role trying to reveal it.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 5:49 pm luna lie detection next day. Change lynch.

[mention]Long Con[/mention] [mention]speedchuck[/mention] [mention]Elohcin[/mention] [mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention]

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 5:54 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 5:51 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 5:50 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 5:49 pm luna lie detection next day. Change lynch.
Who should we lynch?
DDL/Jay/Spacedaisy
Have you been able to lie detect any of these people and find them lying?

DDL

Jay

Spacedaisy

next day

dunya wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 5:50 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 5:49 pm luna lie detection next day. Change lynch.
Who should we lynch?

DDL/Jay/Spacedaisy

luna lie detection next day. Change lynch.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 5:38 pm Normally I would not vote Luna on a day she is insane, but I feel she has had plenty of time to show defend herself.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 5:27 pm @Lunalee how sure are you that Elo is good:

I am positive.

I think the evidence supports she's civ.

I'm not sure about her.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 5:17 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 3:42 pm I think Luna is a better lynch today though. I have no better reasons to view her as a civilian than Elohcin (I care zero percent what her damned role is), and today's discrepancy with speedchuck is hard to believe. Something's wrong there.
One thing I don't understand is why Lunalee is sure Speed is just forgetful rather than lying.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 3:21 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 3:18 pm Lunalee, please pick one:

speedchuck is remembering incorrectly

speedchuck is lying

Feels like she knows Speed is a civ.

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 5:17 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 3:42 pm I think Luna is a better lynch today though. I have no better reasons to view her as a civilian than Elohcin (I care zero percent what her damned role is), and today's discrepancy with speedchuck is hard to believe. Something's wrong there.
One thing I don't understand is why Lunalee is sure Speed is just forgetful rather than lying.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 3:21 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 3:18 pm Lunalee, please pick one:

speedchuck is remembering incorrectly

speedchuck is lying

Feels like she knows Speed is a civ.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 3:18 pm Lunalee, please pick one:

speedchuck is remembering incorrectly

speedchuck is lying

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 5:04 pm Some confusing stuff today, but I'm going to do what I decided to back when speedchuck first said she's bad, and [VOTE: Luna] aubergine.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:29 am Luna is bad.

We planned in BTSC not to vote till the last second for reasons related to her role. That's why I missed voting earlier, and why she likely did too. Now she's shading me based on that?

Bad.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:51 am
juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:13 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:59 am
juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:45 am
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 8:50 am
dunya wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 4:26 am Lunalee Do you have gripes about speed? Or are you just saying his votes look bad?

speedchuck can you speak to why you didn't vote on days 1,3, and 4 (I think those are the days)? I'm assuming thats what Luna means by your votes looking bad. If you already shared this and I've forgotten just point me back to your post.
I'm pretty sure I voted D1.

3 and 4 both fell on the weekend, which isn't a good excuse or anything. I just got busy and didn't check in in time.
Ok, and yes, it's been established in previous games that you are not around much on the weekends. I didn't realize those days were weekend days (the all run together in my mind). So, I guess I don't understand Luna's claim that she doesn't like your votes.

@Lunalee is it the weekend non-votes that you didn't like? I would think you of all people would realize how busy he is on the weekends. Or was it his other votes? Or both? I'll give you something to copy and paste so you can answer each of those alternatives separately:

Didn't like his weekend non-votes:

Didn't like his other votes Day 1 and 5:

Didn't like any of his votes/non-votes:
heart

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:09 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:00 am If just speed is mafia this is just opportunism. He saw Luna cursed and tried to get her lynched.
This doesn't actually make sense. I didn't ask Luna to shade me over votes. People are asking her questions and cooperating to the point where she can tell us what she means.

So far, she's accused me over votes (while still voting for JJJ I think) and clarified that it's my actual votes that look bad, not the missed votes.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 5:09 pm @Lunalee can you give us any words from you role that would confirm your claim that you're a lie detector? Tell me if this is against the rules you were given for the insanity by capitalizing this if thats the case.

Also guys we are having terrible thunderstorms and I'm afraid we are going to lose power. If we don't I will be here until EOD.

lie detector?

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 4:41 pm I just got home and read back some. What the heck is going on with this lie detector stuff? And am I right that between speed and Luna the role that I thought Luna had has been exposed in the thread? And Jay somehow found out it was a lie detect instead? Can someone set me straight? It looks like most have decided to vote Luna. Can someone tell me why? Sorry I'm so full of questions.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 3:23 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 3:22 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 3:21 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 3:18 pm Lunalee, please pick one:

speedchuck is remembering incorrectly

speedchuck is lying

That is forgiving. Please affirm or deny with a smiley:

You, Lunalee, told speedchuck that you are a lie detector or that you have lie detection abilities in your BTSC with him.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 3:50 pm Theory: Luna told speedchuck in BTSC that she is a role cop (or something like that), lying deliberately about what her role is. Because her teammates had at least two atypical roles (Jack a mock-doctor, Luna a lie detector of some sort), they knew that she shouldn't give speedchuck an authentic claim. Instead she handed over "role cop", which a lie detector can serve as functionally, to avoid raising suspicion in this sometimes backwards setup.

I just don't understand how she can literally tell him that she is a lie detector and then he can forget that.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 3:55 pm [VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

Theory: I'm not literally insane. Luna did give me a fake role claim. She didn't pursue contradicting me and foisting suspicion my way over it because that didn't work with the 'suspicious votes' thing earlier today.

And If JJJ scumslipped, Luna is scum with him.
If Scum is protecting Eloh, Luna is probably scum with her.
The only suspicion I've been entertaining today that doesn't include Luna is dunya.

DDL and Neverwhere are kinda blank spaces right now.

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