The Syndicate

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:17 pm My greatest accomplishment this game was town reading @Lunalee and preventing her d1 mislynch as usual. Really proud of that.

Yes, good job! And I will strive to look exactly the same to you next time I'm scum.

Enjoyed the game [mention]sprityo[/mention] ! Also, I was totally right about nutella, it just took me until the last day to be convinced she was scum. lol [mention]nutella[/mention]

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:12 pm the heck was that Jay??

Colin, my bad.

the heck was that Jay??

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:05 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:03 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:55 am
Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:08 am the more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that nutella is speed's teammate
who's the third?
probably Mac.
Hmm interesting. What about LC/DF if nutella flips bad? How would you reconsider their claim of having gifted her a gun, given that she could have lied about the number?

oh, yeah adding them back into my POE makes things a bit complicated. I'd rather focus on speedchuck's interactions and content to find the next scum (perhaps nutella, we'll see), then we can work from there on who to lynch next.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:55 am
Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:08 am the more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that nutella is speed's teammate
who's the third?

probably Mac.

the more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that nutella is speed's teammate

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:03 am Quin has been lynched

He was the New Zealand flag of the Moon

He was a Gunsmith and a member of the UN (Town)

Good night

oh

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:44 pm Tough crowd.

I liked it.

I'm feeling pretty confident with a Quin lynch

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:35 pm At what point are we mass claiming?

you're free to claim whenever you'd like!

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:34 pm I wanted to hear a claim from Luna. Boo!

I thought more about it, and with so many fake item roles, I don't think revealing my role really proves anything.

Notable posts by speed:

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:48 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:46 pm We could stop shooting and play it as a 12 v 3 going forward. The orb and vest are huge in that case
This is the most sane thing I've heard all game. I hate it.

But it is very pro-town, and Nova is townly for suggesting it.

Speedchuck does not deny nova looks town for his suggestion, and he also openly hates it. This makes nova look sort of good actually.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:47 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:41 pm If you were lucky enough to have a gun right now, who would you shoot?
I don't, so I haven't been thinking about it. And I wouldn't just shoot like that. I would make people beg on their hands and knees not to be shot.

I'd probably start with you and nova, see how you guys crack when the tables are turned.

:P If I was shoot the person who should be shot, it would probably be Quin. For the same reason I lynched DDL yesterday.

Okay, saying he would turn the tables on sloonei and nova like that makes it sounds like its a "speed vs. town" situation. Sort of makes them both look good.

Then saying Quin "should be shot" sounds a bit like he can't help but admit that Quin looks bad and is not contributing much. Almost sounds like TMI.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:23 pm They just forgot about it apparently

Linki - I'm giving you an opportunity to save yourself, asking you about why you're a civilian, who else is bad if you aren't. And I'm not even voting you up currently

I appreciate it. I'm looking closer at you and Quin right now.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:08 pm For the record, I'm voting DDL because I don't see town in his posts, I don't see much engagement in his posts, and he wouldn't even be fun to shoot. That's my ideal D1 lynch.

Mac would be fun to shoot. Dunya too, as well as, Jack, Nutella, Pou, Sloon, Jay, and maybe Quin. (This is not a salad, as these are not scumreads. They are just people that have been discussed and might be fun to point a gun at.)

'Course I still have to get a gun, and not get shot first. But if everything falls into place, I can wave it around like a madman and THEN get shot.

Speed claims this is not a salad. But it is a list of players he would shoot. His "and maybe Quin" tacked on the end of it sets off alarm bells in my head though.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:20 pm But Luna isn't making much sense right now

lol, because you're bad and want me lynched.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:14 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:07 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:02 pm @Lunalee what’s the strongest piece of evidence for or against Quin?
I suspect Quin because his under-the-radar play style this game doesn't give me much to go off of, and he did not mention or interact with speedchuck at all (looks like teammate distancing).
Why does Quin have your vote instead of nova and everybody else?

Because I think Quin was bad with speed (see earlier post). It's mostly a first-choice gut thing. I should probably look closer at speeds posts now knowing his alignment. nova and most everyone else are still options.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:10 pm @Lunalee Why are you a civilian?

Because I've been doing my best this game to figure everyone out, and you should know I'm town.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:02 pm @Lunalee what’s the strongest piece of evidence for or against Quin?

I suspect Quin because his under-the-radar play style this game doesn't give me much to go off of, and he did not mention or interact with speedchuck at all (looks like teammate distancing).

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:56 pm Lunalee and Quin

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Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:44 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:42 pm Seriously bored with these wagons.

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine
same, but why Quin?

Prod votes exist everywhere. Luna cared about this one.

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Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:48 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:49 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:48 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:45 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:43 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:40 pmim town i think
Ya think? [VOTE: Quin] aubergine
yea
Genuquin.

...

Nah I'm just kidding I don't know yet. I'll have you sorted by D2.
thanks that'd be very helpful
@Jackofhearts2005 want to wait until day 2 to lynch Quin?

What? What are we waiting for?

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Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:44 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:23 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:09 pm Quin, I have a specific prompt for you as you suggested. Please review sabie12 and let me know what your impressions are.
Decent town lean. She's missing that conversational stream of consciousness that I saw in Community but I don't think she's offering any less without it. The Santa claim seems silly if she's bad since it can't be verified - generally if I'm about to fakeclaim I would bring it up in BTSC beforehand to make sure it's a good idea. I have no issue with her target either. I voted dunya for the toolbox.
@speedchuck give us your take on Quin, please and thanks.

Luna asked mafiachuck for a take on Quin. I don't know why Quin specifically was selected.

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Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:58 pm so I'm either voting for nova, Quin, or speedchuck today. Those are the common folks between mine and JJJ's "could be scum" lists.

Pseudo-salad. It's less saladesque than some because it stemmed from her POE.

so speedchuck claims he's good at reading Quin. I find it strange that he never really engaged with Quin all game, and didn't even answer my question about what he thought of Quin's alignment.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:53 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:52 pm If you guys lynch me based off my reluctance to vote speedchuck, that is freaking stupid. I have a useful role, and it it helps I will claim.
GoC flashbacks

If you guys lynch me based off my reluctance to vote speedchuck, that is freaking stupid. I have a useful role, and it it helps I will claim.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:23 pm Luna does not mention speed in an on-topic fashion for a while. Her first somewhat real acknowledgement of him is indirectly in this exchange about his quindar:

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:48 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:49 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:48 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:45 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:43 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:40 pmim town i think
Ya think? [VOTE: Quin] aubergine
yea
Genuquin.

...

Nah I'm just kidding I don't know yet. I'll have you sorted by D2.
thanks that'd be very helpful
Jackofhearts2005 want to wait until day 2 to lynch Quin?
Sketchy at best. Speed/Luna/Quin team looks highly plausible.

Nothing else for an eternity. She makes a large poe from which speed is absent.

Then this:

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:44 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:23 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:09 pm Quin, I have a specific prompt for you as you suggested. Please review sabie12 and let me know what your impressions are.
Decent town lean. She's missing that conversational stream of consciousness that I saw in Community but I don't think she's offering any less without it. The Santa claim seems silly if she's bad since it can't be verified - generally if I'm about to fakeclaim I would bring it up in BTSC beforehand to make sure it's a good idea. I have no issue with her target either. I voted dunya for the toolbox.
@speedchuck give us your take on Quin, please and thanks.
The quindar again. Awkward.

Doesn't like wagons on me and speed mehhhhh fart

another poe without speed
Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:35 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:34 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:32 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:30 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:27 pm Any other claims or info I'm missing?
What about speedchuck?
did he claim something already?
Nope. I mean that you didn't include him in your POEs. Is that deliberate?
I removed him from the first one because I felt he was town. But you know I'm not really sure. He just seemed town to me from his careless attitude in thread. maybe I should add him back.
Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:51 pm current POE:
speedchuck
novaselinenever
Quin
Sloonei

removing DF, because I'm inclined to believe role-claims right now. Adding back speedchuck, because he could be scum, and I have no real reason to trust him.

Finally reluctantly convinced to put speed back in her poe. And soon afterward throws a vote on him right after Jay does

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:58 pm so I'm either voting for nova, Quin, or speedchuck today. Those are the common folks between mine and JJJ's "could be scum" lists.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:59 pm [VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

sorry dear.
Gross.

The one perspective that gives me pause is whether she would be bold enough to not have him in her poe for so long when he was a fairly popular suspect. It was a rather against the grain opinion to have. But then she and speed are always claiming not to be able to read each other well, and they definitely invoked that in Shockheaded Peter. So I don't put it past her.

Luna and Quin are our commies.

[VOTE: Luna] aubergine

I know I look bad with my reluctance. Honestly I sort of felt bad voting speed because I'm never that good at reading him, and it was sort of my fault he couldn't play the last mafia game we signed up for (I didn't know he was playing, and told him my role).

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:55 pm I'm not going to spam the thread with each of these. I'm just going to look and plop down a chart. People can ask questions after that.

Yes, do that. I like charts.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:39 pm Somebody shoot someone.

[mention]nutella[/mention] still has a gun, right? Were you were hesitant to shoot it because of Epi's role flip? It looks like if he did tamper with an item, it could have been Jay's gun, so your second one might still be safe. But if you're nervous, and the gun will last until tomorrow, maybe [mention]poutanko[/mention] could float you a vest tonight.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:05 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:03 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:01 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:59 pm You could break down the first 5 further I believe 'cause there is a vast difference in the evidence backing them,

Pou
Jack
JJJ

then,

DFaraday
LC
Yep, you could. If nutella should flip mafia then the dynamic is different for DF and LC. If she flips civilian, they're up with the other three.
are you saying nutella needs to die for this game to be solved? :P
She can confirm to players if she flips civ, I think it's worth it

wow, what changed? you were so against lynching me last game we played just to get a town-firm.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:01 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:59 pm You could break down the first 5 further I believe 'cause there is a vast difference in the evidence backing them,

Pou
Jack
JJJ

then,

DFaraday
LC
Yep, you could. If nutella should flip mafia then the dynamic is different for DF and LC. If she flips civilian, they're up with the other three.

are you saying nutella needs to die for this game to be solved? :P

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:58 pm Oh I forgot Colin. I keep forgetting he's even in the game because he has done zilch. He's in the poe.

Colin has been fairly active, and looks town to me.

[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

sorry dear.

so I'm either voting for nova, Quin, or speedchuck today. Those are the common folks between mine and JJJ's "could be scum" lists.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:44 pm @MacDougall, why is Audrey a civilian?

because she made a really sincere post saying she wasn't a werewolf?

current POE:
speedchuck
novaselinenever
Quin
Sloonei

removing DF, because I'm inclined to believe role-claims right now. Adding back speedchuck, because he could be scum, and I have no real reason to trust him.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:39 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:36 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:34 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:29 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:27 pm Assuming sabie's claim is true, and jack's claim is true, and that nutella is town, my POE can be narrowed down to:
DFaraday
Long Con
MacDougall
novaselinenever
Quin
Sloonei

I also feel like Mac is probably town. Which leaves a 5 player POE:
DFaraday
Long Con
novaselinenever
Quin
Sloonei

Any other claims or info I'm missing?
wait, Long Con claimed to give nutella a gun. Removing him as well for now:
DFaraday
novaselinenever
Quin
Sloonei
DFaraday also claimed to have given gun, which leaves with a PoE of 3. Congrats you solved the game
but did he actually give nutella a gun? because she acted like she only had one. Correct?
She claimed 2.

boom, found it. you're right.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:00 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:52 pm nutella, how many guns did you receive?
2

I'm a bit more inclined to believe DF now.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:34 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:29 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:27 pm Assuming sabie's claim is true, and jack's claim is true, and that nutella is town, my POE can be narrowed down to:
DFaraday
Long Con
MacDougall
novaselinenever
Quin
Sloonei

I also feel like Mac is probably town. Which leaves a 5 player POE:
DFaraday
Long Con
novaselinenever
Quin
Sloonei

Any other claims or info I'm missing?
wait, Long Con claimed to give nutella a gun. Removing him as well for now:
DFaraday
novaselinenever
Quin
Sloonei
DFaraday also claimed to have given gun, which leaves with a PoE of 3. Congrats you solved the game

but did he actually give nutella a gun? because she acted like she only had one. Correct?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:34 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:32 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:30 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:27 pm Any other claims or info I'm missing?
What about speedchuck?
did he claim something already?
Nope. I mean that you didn't include him in your POEs. Is that deliberate?

I removed him from the first one because I felt he was town. But you know I'm not really sure. He just seemed town to me from his careless attitude in thread. maybe I should add him back.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:30 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:27 pm Any other claims or info I'm missing?
What about speedchuck?

did he claim something already?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:31 pm
DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:40 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:41 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:39 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:38 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:37 pm He has been on your ass all game?
Nova is the only Long Con suspicion that I can recall, and it has been a few times.

Maybe! I don't have perfect memory. Going out right now.

Linki: nutella shot a bad guy with the gun I gave her.... and I gave it to her because I thought she was very Civ. She spoke Truth.
I gave Nutella a gun too.
wait, what?
@nutella you only received one gun, correct?

oops, [mention]nutella[/mention]

DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:40 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:41 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:39 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:38 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:37 pm He has been on your ass all game?
Nova is the only Long Con suspicion that I can recall, and it has been a few times.

Maybe! I don't have perfect memory. Going out right now.

Linki: nutella shot a bad guy with the gun I gave her.... and I gave it to her because I thought she was very Civ. She spoke Truth.
I gave Nutella a gun too.

wait, what?
@nutella you only received one gun, correct?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:27 pm Assuming sabie's claim is true, and jack's claim is true, and that nutella is town, my POE can be narrowed down to:
DFaraday
Long Con
MacDougall
novaselinenever
Quin
Sloonei

I also feel like Mac is probably town. Which leaves a 5 player POE:
DFaraday
Long Con
novaselinenever
Quin
Sloonei

Any other claims or info I'm missing?

wait, Long Con claimed to give nutella a gun. Removing him as well for now:
DFaraday
novaselinenever
Quin
Sloonei

Assuming sabie's claim is true, and jack's claim is true, and that nutella is town, my POE can be narrowed down to:
DFaraday
Long Con
MacDougall
novaselinenever
Quin
Sloonei

I also feel like Mac is probably town. Which leaves a 5 player POE:
DFaraday
Long Con
novaselinenever
Quin
Sloonei

Any other claims or info I'm missing?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:50 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:40 pm I don't like the nutella or speedchuck lynch wagons.

[VOTE: sabie] aubergine, I feel like we haven't talked about her enough.
She claimed she gave dunya an orb right? It's plausible but sorta convenient, but I'm in no place to doubt seeing as I gave dunya a gun Oh well.

oh right, she did. Which makes me think sabie would probably not lie about that (being sabie and all).

I don't like the nutella or speedchuck lynch wagons.

[VOTE: sabie] aubergine, I feel like we haven't talked about her enough.

I feel like the case on nutella sprung up because she shot leetic. It made people think, "wait town would do that or someone from the other scum team." So nutella is suspected because we can't clear her. Her earlier game hasn't look bad at all though (in my opinion). But she could have been genu-hunting then as either alignment. Ugh.

Jay (who i thought was supposed to be working on a thesis) also made a "beef with nutella" post. It doesn't really make her look worse though (other than maybe the salad thing, but that's debatable). It just sort of looks like nutella.

I would rather lynch someone else today. Nutella looks town-ish.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:51 am
Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:12 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:05 pm Is there incentive for a granny to counterclaim jack?
No, I don't think it would be wise for the granny to claim. Which makes me doubt Jack's claim. If someone claims to be granny, it would make scum hesitant to visit them lest they die. If granny does not claim but instead antagonizes the thread, "fishing" to be visited by scum, they then might get a kill.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:31 pm still think someone needs to bit the bullet and shoot jack. I just really don't buy his granny claim.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:05 pm I considered taking jack off, but I don't know if i completely buy his claim.
You considered removing Jack from your POE. Therefore you are not the granny. I had wondered briefly. With that said then, why do you continue to feature Jack as a candidate?

Whatever you perceive the logic to be, nobody else has challenged his claim. Everyone has been around to see it and comment on it short of Audrey. Is she the granny?

Moreover, the reasoning you present can be reversed: if the granny does claim, it prevents civilians from foolishly visiting.

Because it is really hard for me to trust jack of hearts. I know he's good, and I don't want to get duped by him. But you're right. Him being the granny is probably the most logical option.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:50 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:41 pm I wonder if the person who gave Jay the bunk gun would also be bold enough to urge him to use it in thread. Was anyone other than speedchuck super vocal about jay taking his second shot?
Second shot?

Wait, I thought for a second he made the first shot. My bad. That was nutella.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:41 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:39 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:38 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:37 pm He has been on your ass all game?
Nova is the only Long Con suspicion that I can recall, and it has been a few times.

Maybe! I don't have perfect memory. Going out right now.

Linki: nutella shot a bad guy with the gun I gave her.... and I gave it to her because I thought she was very Civ. She spoke Truth.

OR, she's on the other mafia team, and got lucky with leetic.

linki same, Mac

I wonder if the person who gave Jay the bunk gun would also be bold enough to urge him to use it in thread. Was anyone other than speedchuck super vocal about jay taking his second shot?

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:23 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:09 pm Quin, I have a specific prompt for you as you suggested. Please review sabie12 and let me know what your impressions are.
Decent town lean. She's missing that conversational stream of consciousness that I saw in Community but I don't think she's offering any less without it. The Santa claim seems silly if she's bad since it can't be verified - generally if I'm about to fakeclaim I would bring it up in BTSC beforehand to make sure it's a good idea. I have no issue with her target either. I voted dunya for the toolbox.

[mention]speedchuck[/mention] give us your take on Quin, please and thanks.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:22 pm Since no gth, here's a beautiful rainbow

Jackofhearts2005
Sabie
Poutanko
Mac
JJJ
Lunalee
Colin
Sloonei
Audrey
Quin
DFaraday
Speedchuck
Long Con
Nutella

gorgeous
What makes you think nutella and Long Con are ultimate red bad?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:24 pm @Lunalee I expressed some beefs with you yesterday and I don’t see a response to them anywhere. I’m most interested in the difference I noted between a statement you made in this game and your entry into It’s Always Sunny.

oh, right. you did make a big post and I didn't really read it. Here you go:

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Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:01 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:55 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:54 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:44 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:42 pm [VOTE: sloonei] aubergine bc at least he already has a vote and so does ddl bit I'm less decided on ddl
are you up to speed with sloonei's latest contributions?
Yes, as I said I had mixed feelings about his exchange with pou but he's still a net negative. His three isos in a row overnight felt a bit like forcing himself to look town/like he's hunting and just showing some busy work.
ooh, you know I sort of thought the same thing when I saw those random ISOs.
"sort of thought" is a pretty timid way to frame this accusation. Care to expand on your sort of read of me, Luna?

Not really much to expand on. I thought the same thing, but didn't mention it, so when nutella posted her suspicion, I wanted to voice my agreement with her.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:01 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:52 pm
DFaraday wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:42 pm I'm twenty pages behind, so I'm voting Poutanko because ties are fun.

Now I'll start trying to actually catch up.
I feel like DF could have given the reason, "Because I'm scum and couldn't care less who gets lynched," and it would read the same way.
Light shade of DF. I don't hate this, but it lacks a definitive stance. @Lunalee GTH read on DF, go.

sure, DFaraday = scum
I've seen nothing from him to convince me he's town.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:01 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:18 pm Would it be terrible for me to vote ts account on Day 1 in the first game I've ever played with them? Because I'm really tempted. Looking through their posts just gave me a bad feeling.
1. they immediately started forming a "trust circle"
2. this post:
ts account wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:18 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:11 pm
So relateable. Hit me with your suspicions.
dunya, sloonei, nutella all seem vaguely scummy but I'm missing a lot of context

I noted dunya calling out specifically nutella about their read on jack of hearts when I'm not sure if nutella/jack of hearts has any specific relevance to dunya (or whether it should)
3. followed by this vote:
ts account wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:13 pm [VOTE: leetic] aubergine

Calling out people as good or scummy with no real reasons looks like something mafia would do.
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I thought TS account looked a bit suspicious. I had no way of knowing leetic's alignment, so it appeared to be a random vote on a random person. I totally get how it could look bad, but only if you're trying to make me look bad because of it.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:01 pm Let us review Lunalee's recent entrace in IASIP (in which she was town):
Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:04 pm I think I'll try Jay's "find the town instead of the scum" strategy this game. I think it will be easier for me.
Why is this strategy acceptable for Jay and Luna, but not ts account?

She has since plopped an unexplained vote on DDL and nothing else. I'd like it if Luna came here and explained some things. Are Lunachuck bad again? (congrats again on the big news tho. really happy for you two. scum.)

My "find the town" implementation was a bit different than TSA's. I was a lot more careful with who I was comfortable calling town. He came in throwing a bunch of town reads at people on day 1. It was strange to me. Knowing his alignment now, I can only say it's because some people just play differently.

My vote on DDL was a "I don't really want to lynch Mac or Pout" vote. I gut-felt that DDL was a better alternative, and went with it. I didn't post a case on him when I moved my vote, but I did see stuff in thread that made me comfortable voting for him. Also, if you were trying to frame it as a bussing attempt, it failed. DDL's team has been wiped out, and there is no way I could have had TMI to know he was bad.

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