The Syndicate

Well juliets is voting for Michelle not timmer...hmmm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:15 pm If timmer is bad, add juliets to the list.

the good list or lynch list?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:14 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:12 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:08 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:43 pm
I feel like Dizzy and Epi maybe should have died by now, but I had also forgot about the gazillion shenangins that could have happened in the night.

What the hell is this?

Dyslexicon - Violetta
Epignosis - Wooster

I meant 2.0 selves. It's like since you are back in the game. Idk generally you seem like a threat and scum kill you a lot.

There's only been two Night phases since we swapped in.

If you're going to go down that road, why not ask why Sloonei isn't dead?

i remember you more cause you followed my vote on nova that one game and then died the night after.

I guess I don't know the ranking of people who die a lot on syndicate.

But you're right. i'm more suspicious of dizzy because of meta. Meta is probably my crutch to be fair.

I know you guys died already. it was a very sad affair, but your second self is still alive so I begin to doubt it all again.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:08 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:43 pm
I feel like Dizzy and Epi maybe should have died by now, but I had also forgot about the gazillion shenangins that could have happened in the night.

What the hell is this?

Dyslexicon - Violetta
Epignosis - Wooster

I meant 2.0 selves. It's like since you are back in the game. Idk generally you seem like a threat and scum kill you a lot.

town!dizzy usually isn't this underwhelming then again it could be just the time zone being different etc.

also town!dizzy is generally not alive at this stage in the game.

But both scum and town dizzy wonder about if I'm fooling them.

There's a point in Timmer's iso. i think it is day 1 where Timmer thanks Sloonei.

it was for some conversation they were having. it was kind of a neutral statement overall and then at least timmer didn't really mention sloonei beyond that.

These kind of neutral or casual statements could be partner interactions methinks.

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*owner hopes she hasn't gone too far down the rabbit hole on this one*

I feel like I need to walk away from this thread. But I'm not sure if that will make me more nervous...doh

Is this wagon on Timmer just filled with awesome towns or am I going to feel miserable about myself in the next 30ish minutes. ...

I mean timmer is acting calm with the fact of potentially dying and just chilling with his lady friend.

Idk I guess I'm just suspicious of how he's not afraid to die as if he's likely not to dying question mark question mark

idk, man

I'm like all turned about

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:56 pm Oh there’s only half an hour left

yeah, that's why I'm trying so hard to make a decision and be clear on stuff

I read through timmer's ISO.

If he's bad, Tony and Michelle are likely in the clear. And I'll have to keep reevaluating cause it's like I've been so off base.

I'll have to look a Dizzy again, sadly enough.

Dizzy feels a little underwhelming at the moment.

I'll probably have lynch him.

So Timmer and Dizzy for scum.

Dom still town.

Juliets probably clear if timmer is scum. Cause in Timmer's ISO, he was making a case on her tying her with Luna.

Drag maybe still town as well judging from Timmer's ISO, but drago also had the thing with getting sig killed if memory serves.

New Epi probably still town.

No clue about sprityo.

jack's "is anyone suspicious of me" intro into day was a bit weird. It probably means something but I don't know what at this moment,

I assume timmer was going into the day bussing sabie to try to live longer in the future. Idk

I dislike making these big decisions

timmer wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:13 pm And sabie hasn't even been given a chance to defend herself... Creature is here and is being aloof and not bothering much, which is worse, to me.

screw it vote Timmer

[VOTE: Timmer] aubergine

It sounds like a partner defending a partner

Anyone here?

I kind of worried a starting to wonder if both timmer and Michelle could both be town. Maybe I'm wrong, but if they are town, I'm kind of interested in forming another wagon.

I feel like that in itself is a stupid decision, but Tony pointing out the thing about scum break or win ties. Michelle seeming to not be aware of said thing, might be derpy town or could be faked.

timmer was could be with sabie and had to bus or could be town and we are just screwed because we keep forming these wagons so easily and then they sit there for a good bit of the day.

it could be too scummy to be scum

or maybe it's just the patterns are not making sense to me. I should dedicate more time here. But some days it is hard. I feel like I'm a disappointment.

I feel like Dizzy and Epi maybe should have died by now, but I had also forgot about the gazillion shenangins that could have happened in the night.

I had thought that 1 kill was what we were suppose to be seeing, but little birdies in the thread have been mentioning a SK in addition to mafia so I guess we didn't get rid of all of those guys yet. it's like driving me crazy cause I can't necessarily read that well to motivations of each death because SK and Mafia will have different killing motivations.

So it's one big cluster and Idk what to do.

I guess I'll keep reading and keep voting.

Still though, I guess I'm still suspicious of Michelle talking more in the thread when she has had more votes on her but that's probably nai and I'm just talking myself in circles trying to find the correct path to go but somehow I still feel lost on the way there.

Or has there been a bunch of townies voting other townies...are there just that many deep wolves in this game?

Timmer is saying stuff correctly, but do I trust it. . .

Or should we be lynching Drag, cause sig did vote on him and he's just slanked off as the game got late??

idk

I need more scum reads. Too many people doing townies and not all of them can be town : PerC unsure face :

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:09 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:20 am @Michelle check out Baron Wulfenbach’s castle wulfenbach power.

omg i didn't read until now, you are right!

do I trust this? or is it nai, cause I know I didn't read everything to the fullest...hmm

Timmer's votes so far: Rej, Creature, Lunalee, Creature again and sabie12

Today, he's on Michelle.

Timmer said on yesterday's day phase that the vote should definitely be on sabie12. I think that's main reason I read them town. Mainly, I think recognizing that sabie has been barely posting and getting away with it for multiple days and going through with it is more of a townie thing. Especially, with someone from said sabie wagon dying in the night.

Timmer could have been potentially bussing to save skin, but I guess I wish I knew what the wagons looked like at the time that Timmer said that the wagon should be on sabie. I think right now that there is a greater possibility of them being town.

Should I be worried about Dizzy though...if I should then that would likely clear Michelle and Tony, but if he's fine then that says nothing about their alignment...d'oh

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:54 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:32 pm
sounds reasonable, I like this thinking even if it risks mislynches

@Epignosis just wanted to be sure there is no convenience or sheeping in that vote. Some people might do so for chainreactions.

I don't mind the wagon on Timmer tho.

Also, since you know that you and I aren't teammates and that is the starting point for Epig's vote etc., you are saying that despite knowing that the reasons behind these other votes are incorrect, you are fine with letting a bad case ride, because, again, you don't like that I didn't help you understand the pages that you had already read?

So, by that rationale, if you are fine with letting a case that you and I both know is wrong ride, you would be ok with that same case turning onto you? Since that case is that we are teamies?

[VOTE: Vote: Rej] aubergine

Hmmm, is this a bit forced? Or given the start of the game and no one knows much of anything yet is timmer's clever wording normal of them?

hmm

teammates can be both town teammates or scum teammates, generally teammates is used to describe the scum variety though...

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:07 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:57 am Okay great. Help me find a wolf if you ain’t one.

Who should we lynch?

Timmer - he didn't show up yet after saying he's busy. You find him villager? I find him laying low and avoiding confrontations. In all game he didn't question my vote on him. At least i didn't find it. How is this villagery?

Is it just me or did you sort of start posting more now that there are 3 votes on you?

From an outside perspective, one could assume that teammate told you that your life was on the line and told you to post more.

One could assume that you were busy elsewhere, but even then, we are to read what you have set before us.

Do you generally question all the people who vote for you?

Tony didn't question my vote him. Should I still be suspicious of this fact? He's active but aware...

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:08 pm
Sure. Potential.
Why am I defending someone I haven't voted for instead of you defending your vote for her... ?
That seems ass-backwards.

Last I checked, I asked you a question, and you flat out deflected. I don't care that you're not voting for them. I was curious why you thought the votes on her were bad.

I kind wanted to see both sides of the coin here. But all I got, is more of reason to look into Dom if Michelle turns out to be a baddie.

I guess Drag slipped off activity at some point? Or is he posting more at my speed with bursts of content stuffs?

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Let's make it official.

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:36 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:30 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:23 pm Dunno

Don't love the Michelle votes.

What's wrong with the michelle votes? Or right now I think it is only one vote.

What's right about a michelle vote?

I'm not crazy about your deflection, Dom.

But I don't really see Michelle's presence in the thread. (yeah, I'm one to talk; thanks for noticing. But if I'm really looking at the thread, it's like there's not enough umph for me to be like you and say that she's the wrong lynch for today.

Like what has she done to tip the scales for you?

She's voted for Timmer, Lunalee, Creature, and Timmer again. And it looks like she didn't even vote day 1. What town doesn't vote day 1?

Like priorities man, right now I'm fine with the vote on Michelle.

I might be voting there today.

I like Timmer. I liked Creature before they died.

In my mind, Michelle has potential to be mafia scum.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:04 pm Michelle offers this lone post in defense of Rej D1. That’s it.

Spoiler: show

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 3:06 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:13 am

Spoiler: show

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:57 am @Michelle tell us about yourself as a mafia player. Where do you come from, what’s your strategy? What are you looking for or looking at in this game right now? Does anyone or anything stand out?

I played one alias game with Michelle and I also believe she was in the Champs game with the representative from PerC, which I followed.

I would definitely recommend lynching Michelle at all costs.

ngl the "at all costs" is really ugly

i liked the post #470
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 10#p548810

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:52 am Oh, and also didn't like Michelle's entry to the game that much.

again about me, sorry i didn't have time to make an entry to please you. That much doesn't mean at all yet you vote me after.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:17 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:56 amYo, why you so set on lynching Michelle?

That first thing wasn't serious, if that wasn't obvious.

Also, hi Luna, hi! Nice to see you again. I'm totally town this time though. <3

For me was not obviously a not serious thing

posts 476 and 477 contains reads on many players, i like this.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 16#p548816

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:26 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:56 amYo, why you so set on lynching Michelle?

Regarding this though =p

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

^

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:19 pm

Spoiler: show

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:46 pmThis was my first thought too; though I don’t think it’s accurate. My guess on generic = has similar reads to him.

I’ll answer one of the questions: rej flip is the obvious answer, but I think Drago or Epi is the more interesting bet.

Generic being same reads doesn't make sense to me.
But I do agree Drag probably would be the most exciting flip

noted this

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:24 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:12 pm [Timmer is scum]

Can someone tell me about Rej's meta? Cause this post is so weird.
Lots of people have expressed suspicion on Rej. Why would Timmer be the opportunistic one?

This is the second time when i like in a townish way your post because usually scum don't ask about meta to check a player. I've played around 3 games with Rej, 2 as town and 1 as scum. As scum he never defend himself like he did today here. I am not 100% sure but the suspicion on him came from miswording and he may be civ.

i don't feel to continue this, idk your meta but i am not scum reading now you because you made few villagery movements.

I feel like the read from Michelle is genuine. I don't know how I feel about "i like in a townish way". i feel like there would be a natural way to say that without it coming up funky, but I guess you do you, Michelle.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:04 pm Michelle offers this lone post in defense of Rej D1. That’s it.

Spoiler: show

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 3:06 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:13 am

Spoiler: show

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:57 am @Michelle tell us about yourself as a mafia player. Where do you come from, what’s your strategy? What are you looking for or looking at in this game right now? Does anyone or anything stand out?

I played one alias game with Michelle and I also believe she was in the Champs game with the representative from PerC, which I followed.

I would definitely recommend lynching Michelle at all costs.

ngl the "at all costs" is really ugly

i liked the post #470
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 10#p548810

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:52 am Oh, and also didn't like Michelle's entry to the game that much.

again about me, sorry i didn't have time to make an entry to please you. That much doesn't mean at all yet you vote me after.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:17 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:56 amYo, why you so set on lynching Michelle?

That first thing wasn't serious, if that wasn't obvious.

Also, hi Luna, hi! Nice to see you again. I'm totally town this time though. <3

For me was not obviously a not serious thing

posts 476 and 477 contains reads on many players, i like this.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 16#p548816

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:26 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:56 amYo, why you so set on lynching Michelle?

Regarding this though =p

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

^

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:19 pm

Spoiler: show

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:46 pmThis was my first thought too; though I don’t think it’s accurate. My guess on generic = has similar reads to him.

I’ll answer one of the questions: rej flip is the obvious answer, but I think Drago or Epi is the more interesting bet.

Generic being same reads doesn't make sense to me.
But I do agree Drag probably would be the most exciting flip

noted this

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:24 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:12 pm [Timmer is scum]

Can someone tell me about Rej's meta? Cause this post is so weird.
Lots of people have expressed suspicion on Rej. Why would Timmer be the opportunistic one?

This is the second time when i like in a townish way your post because usually scum don't ask about meta to check a player. I've played around 3 games with Rej, 2 as town and 1 as scum. As scum he never defend himself like he did today here. I am not 100% sure but the suspicion on him came from miswording and he may be civ.

i don't feel to continue this, idk your meta but i am not scum reading now you because you made few villagery movements.

I feel like the read from Michelle is genuine. I don't know how I feel about "i like in a townish way". i feel like there would be a natural way to say that without it coming up funky, but I guess you do you, Michelle.

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:23 pm Dunno

Don't love the Michelle votes.

What's wrong with the michelle votes? Or right now I think it is only one vote.

timmer wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:31 am I'm definitely leaving my vote on sabie, but I'll say that epig's push towards me feels pretty bad.

We do NOT need to leave an inactive sable aside for today. Because she ISN'T inactive, in fact she is deliberately doing the bare minimum needed to survive in the game without having her powers modblocked.

I would NOT normally kill off longtime syndicate players, Epig should remember that I tend to want to lynch inactives and players I don't know, because I generally trust that I can get the long-timers whose games I know well lynched.

But the key here is that he keeps referring to sabie as inactive, when she very definitely is NOT, and he knows this and is ignoring it.

And at this point, with a sabie lynch looking like it would happen, to see this sudden idea of "no, we have to lynch other than sabie, uhm,... that guy" it tells me that a successful sabie lynch would tell us a LOT about who the bad guys are in this game.

Now, I'm at work today and will try to post, but then I have a ladyfriend staying over for the weekend, so i'll be a bit absent.

I think I'm okay with Timmer.

I'm not sure if I like the WIFOM of "would NOT normally kill off longtime syndicate players".

But I don't think scum would want to bus if they didn't have to.

I don't want Timmer lynched at this moment.

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:54 pm @Owner of a Lonely Heart whattup

Hi, what do we think of the other wagon?

Hmm, but Tony is really active...could he be so active as scum?

I guess he could be an indie though...idk my bff jill...um hmmm

I do like the wagon on sabie though. But I'm thinking that sabie is likely another indie. I think we have one of those left?!?!

[VOTE: Tony] aubergine

I probably should have kept pushing him since day 1.

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:31 am Is owner predicated entirely on his vote for you?

ahem, I'm a female though.

I have yet to vote for today.

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:12 am Don't like that Drag and Owner didn't break the tie.

I was either at work or getting ready for work at the time of end of day. I don't carry my phone on me while working. I wait til a break, but even then I really don't like phone posting.

Personally speaking, I don't like being the tie breaker unless maybe one is town read while the other is a scum read. But dude, I was just not around.

I guess there are technically other times where I won't even touch the main wagon or wagons.

Like so many people voting for x person so quickly -> my thought -> well there's like scum on that wagon or the person flipping is likely an indie or townie who's alone -> so yeah, sometimes I won't get involved with that.

It's not my duty to be the tie breaker. It's my duty to lynch scum.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:11 am I don't really think Dom is very scummy, but I also don't know Dom ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Dom is not likely with sig the mafia.

Judging by this post:

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:50 pm Doms in the game so let's lynch hom first for reasons

It could have been just a joke, but saying that day 0 is hella risky if teamed as you don't know if someone will latch onto that and be gunho to make that the lynch for the day.

So in association with sig flipping mafia, I think Dom is town. (or at least not likely mafia)

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:54 pm Juliets, Timmer, not mafia
Owner, probably town.
LC and Jack both light town, but I could probably be wrong on them

Why juliets and timmer for not mafia?

And why the light town reads on LC and Jack?

Also, why are you not paranoid of me?

I guess I'm debating if dizzy 2.0 is in your scum range or not. Cause your scum range play is less active than your town play.

You also didn't die or don't remember you getting voted aside from what Epi 2.0 said today. I guess him having thoughts to vote for you might lean you townish, but l'm not sure if I like all of Sloonei's posts.

I think Sloonei was the one you replaced...right?!?!?

^^^ oops ebwop

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:07 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:01 pm I really really want lurkers to post a lot today.

sabie12 sprityo Owner of a Lonely Heart
Please catch up and give your input when you can.

Meow.

I can post some now and probably some tomorrow evening.

I kind of want to look at a lot of people. A lot being at least 4 people, that I remember being suspicious of at sometime or another.

[quote=Dyslexicon post_id=550633 time=1565233275 user_id=499]
I really really want lurkers to post a lot today.

sabie12 sprityo Owner of a Lonely Heart
Please catch up and give your input when you can.

Meow.

I can post some now and probably some tomorrow evening.

I kind of want to look at a lot of people. A lot being at least 4 people, that I remember being suspicious of at sometime or another.

I'm home. I'm probably still behind a bit. Who did Quin 2.0 replace?

Some of this looks pretty decent (thanks Dom), jack being pretty willing to vote almost anywhere probably looks like the worst statement from them.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:42 pm Wait, wait, wait.

I died Night 2.

It's now Day 4.

I died on page 21.

It is now page 24, and a bunch of those are Chess posts.

Are any fucks being given at all?

This is my day off. But yeah, I probably was more lazy than I could have been. Thanks for being observant about the state of the game that we are currently at.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:59 pm This might come off as sheepish but Idc. [VOTE: long Con] aubergine

Didn't like his entrance.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:39 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:55 pm What's wrong with Dom novaselinenever?

Or should we be taking a look at Dom and Dragomir because of nova dying? hmm

Why am I in this equation? There's nothing wrong with my post.

Sometimes, scum will ask town players why they are suspicious of their partner. Other times, scum will ask town player A about town player B that town player A seems to be suspicious of. The scum in this instance would be gathering information and reasons to also suspect town player B.

^^ This mentions 2 reasons why you are in that equation.

Or is jack scum too? *sorry i'm rambling out loud again*

I probably need to look at timmer more as well...derp

or maybe juliets with jack looking at tony for clarification? hmm

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:58 pm @TonyStarkPrime you voted for Jack pretty early today. I looked through your ISO but didn't see anything about him. Can you talk to me about your vote?

Juliets not with jack?

hmm

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:31 pm Dang, RIP Mac and Epi, two good roles in one night.

Also isn't Luna dead?

I guess if I'm questioning Long Con's entrance; I should be looking into juliets entrance as well. hmm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:45 pm Epignosis replaced RainyDay

He cannot be lynched this day phase.

Also, welcome back epi. any thoughts as a new player in said game?