The Syndicate

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:19 pm All Role PMs have been sent! It is now D1, which will end at a majority vote or by April 2, 7pm EDT.

Gimme the up-to-the-minute condensed version of this read please. I had a page one mindmeld with leetic, so right off the bat I was looking at them to be town. Their snapback onto me over our 1v1 felt very "leetic" in that it was misconstrued, something leetic does quite often. But what s...

I don't know the answer to that. What would satisfy you? I've already said I think ts is engaging in bullshit discussion about mechanics and people who talk about mechanics. ts looks nervous. Like someone who bit off more than he can chew and is trying to make himself out to be the big fish regardl...

Gimme the up-to-the-minute condensed version of this read please. I had a page one mindmeld with leetic, so right off the bat I was looking at them to be town. Their snapback onto me over our 1v1 felt very "leetic" in that it was misconstrued, something leetic does quite often. But what s...

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:51 pm
ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:48 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:46 pm I... don't see how that's the case. This does not matter.
Who's your strongest town read in the game right now?
leetic
why?

Have you considered reading my posts or should I repeat myself?

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:47 pm i mean rng also gives you the same thing

I got flashbacks to where I said there was a wolf in three players and you said this exact thing. There were no wolves in those three players and I was shook.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:46 pm I... don't see how that's the case. This does not matter.
Who's your strongest town read in the game right now?

leetic

Probably so, but better to be confident about my reads to make it easier for people to read me, and to be wrong, than to not push anywhere and stay in the PoE. I once again disagree. Push your reads forward. It is easier for others to judge you based on your effort level rather than the confidence ...

This is unrelated to all things, but ts account called a vote for me in the thread but didn't cast it in the poll. @ts account you gotta vote in the poll to make it official. ... Thanks. Your vote is wrong. Probably so, but better to be confident about my reads to make it easier for people to read ...

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:34 pm
My vote stands. Convince me otherwise.

I do not think that is how it works. I do not believe I have seen a case from you yet, so perhaps you can share that with me and I can either dismiss it outright or dismiss it piece by piece depending how bad it is.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:20 pm This is unrelated to all things, but ts account called a vote for me in the thread but didn't cast it in the poll.
@ts account you gotta vote in the poll to make it official.

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Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:47 pm Dragomir presented only two possible reasons why I did my Sloonei vote: lazy town or lazy mafia. Neither of them match the reality of my vote.

Going back to my Dominion game with my wife, I'll be back on later.

When they are back, give me the reality.

I'll admit, I do find it a bit weird how LC still has his vote on Sloonei after all this time without providing any further elaboration. It's just a remnant by now, of a vote cast in a boring thread. Don't consider it to mean he's my top suspect... I put more focus in my other game today due to the...

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:09 pm
ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:06 pm FG What is your current read on me? I am assuming town, and if that is the case I'd like to see you towncase me.
you're a town lean i'm still thinking ;;

defs not lynch or wagon material atm

Make a case, please. I think this is how I should read you.

FG What is your current read on me? I am assuming town, and if that is the case I'd like to see you towncase me.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:00 pm Which forum do you guys come from?

I came from NinSheetMusic and Funnygurl came from FlashFlashRevolution.

i'm a fairly passive player. i don't wanna read ts account yet 'cause he burned me hard like twice in a row where i thought i had his town meta down a la SOUL READS but he was a wolf and it hurt so i'm being cautious. if it's any consolation though sloonei, he's playing right into his meta. he's st...

Actually doing something so mundane would be a red flag without the sass.

Post #342 and #346 seem to be confirmation bias because they show turnip is starting with the conclusion- Sloonei is scum- and then seeing the play fit into that pattern, rather than looking at the play and deciding that they are scum because xyz.

I also am getting turnip and radishes confused, though that may be more due to funnygurl comparing them than me actually thinking about turnips and radishes similarly. Both have displayed no small amount of confirmation bias but have some good posts in a vacuum.

What is your read on Turnip Head? TH isn't a player I read particularly well. His willingness to consider that we are partners is a little bizarre, but I feel like the recent shift to focus on me is more likely to come from a civilian Turnip than a mafia one. You? I see a lot of confirmation bias i...

What is your read on Turnip Head?

It is a good way to powerlynch townies. Here is the angle from which I see you as town: You had a standard early Day 1 suspicion of me, and when I refuted it vehemently you responded with negative emotional energy. That negative emotional energy resulted in an "OMGUS", in your own words, ...

I'll need to re-read TS' post again, but it seemed to me to flip flop quite a lot and I disagree with a lot of his conclusions/counterpoints, at least those in regard to me/Ted, which my eyes focused on. I think this is a good look for you, at least. I wonder if you could do a better job of explain...

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:18 pm I need to go over it again, my initial recollection is Much Ado About Nothing.

Was it you who used the phrase much ado about nothing earlier? I thought it was sloonei.

I'll need to re-read TS' post again, but it seemed to me to flip flop quite a lot and I disagree with a lot of his conclusions/counterpoints, at least those in regard to me/Ted, which my eyes focused on. I think this is a good look for you, at least. I wonder if you could do a better job of explain...

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:41 pm Why are you scum leaning all of my town reads? A complete opposite of what I have.

It probably has to do with how bad I am at scumhunting.

@ts account right off the bat 2.0, yeah, I am spinning everything negatively. That is the point of the exercise. It's not a nefarious agenda. When I make a case like that, I am asking myself whether or not I can see the player as mafia in each post. If the answer is yes, I share my interpretation o...

Dragomir- scum lean Epignosis- null Funnygurl555- scum lean leetic- town Long Con- light town MacDougall- null Master Radishes- null Sloonei- scum lean speedchuck- null tedxtr- light town ts account- town TonyStarkPrime- null Turnip Head- null There are a few players who are likely town who simply ...

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:19 pm ... or possibly a distancing act?

What?

@ts account right off the bat 2.0, yeah, I am spinning everything negatively. That is the point of the exercise. It's not a nefarious agenda. When I make a case like that, I am asking myself whether or not I can see the player as mafia in each post. If the answer is yes, I share my interpretation o...

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@ts account right off the bat 2.0, yeah, I am spinning everything negatively. That is the point of the exercise. It's not a nefarious agenda. When I make a case like that, I am asking myself whether or not I can see the player as mafia in each post. If the answer is yes, I share my interpretation o...

If my reads don't make sense, why are you reading me? was it just that one post I worry perhaps I am simply town reading anyone who town reads me and scum reading anyone who scum reads me, and I try to remove that bias. What I see is towny sentiment and a piece of myself behind posts like "dig...

@ts account right off the bat 2.0, yeah, I am spinning everything negatively. That is the point of the exercise. It's not a nefarious agenda. When I make a case like that, I am asking myself whether or not I can see the player as mafia in each post. If the answer is yes, I share my interpretation o...

Radishes sounds towny in a vacuum but this weird concept of me backtracking must have come from somewhere and I am leery of that. It came from the hypothetical concept of scum!TS getting too deep into his argument with Sloon and wanting to disengage but without coming across as backtracking. In oth...

I am still having trouble believing in ts account's gripes about me from last night. I'll try to to lay it our more clearly than it would have come across in the heat of the moment: I have a soft mindmeld with leetic re: sloonei. However, I'm more suspicious of it because I do not think speculation...

Dragomir- scum lean Epignosis- null Funnygurl555- scum lean leetic- town Long Con- light town MacDougall- null Master Radishes- null Sloonei- scum lean speedchuck- null tedxtr- light town ts account- town TonyStarkPrime- null Turnip Head- null There are a few players who are likely town who simply h...

I see no need for me to add my two cents on the Sloonei/TS discussion. Okay, just one cent: I'm pretty much on board with everything Sloonei said and found TS' line of reasoning lacking, but at the moment I don't particularly read him scum him for it. Moving on... I am interested in seeing if you b...

None of this discussion makes it any less of a scumtell, however. I think any hard adherence to a belief in "scumtells" is a flawed way to play the game because it hinges on something other than the particular events of the ongoing game. It is better to ask "Do Player X's actions in ...

None of this discussion makes it any less of a scumtell, however.

I knew there was precedent for me arguing that suspicion based on mechanics talk is as bad or worse than mechanics talk itself, so II did a quick search through some old games because it's 3 AM and we're locked in quarantine so what the hell else am I supposed to do? Anyway, the results were even b...

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:16 am it looks like he's alone rn

This is compelling to me, for several reasons.

That felt like a waste of my time honestly so I really hope you do not want to talk about it any more.

I could use the same logic against you. You have only played a fraction of the amount of mafia games that exist so you can't truly know that mechanical talk is widely considered a scumtell. It might have been from the games you've played but not the many others have. So basically, trying to say tha...

It should not be considered a scumtell. I have seen a lot more townies than scum tall about the game mechanics. Furthermore, it actually helped progress the game and assisted in making reads on others. Mechanical talk is not bad at all regardless of our easy it is to create a discussion out of. On ...

fine it's not what you want your d1 discussion to be What would you like us to be talking about today? well i mean i WANNA meme 'til an hour before eod but since that's UNPRODUCTIVE i wanna see a boxing match that doesn't... include mikey lol Why not? It seems that you guys have plenty of experienc...

@ts account why is mechanical talk a bad thing? I don't think you have yet to explain that, if so, my bad for missing it. Either way can you express that for me? The answer to your question is option 1. The situation between ts and Sloo is VvsV. I am quite sure about it. I don't sense wolf coming o...

I can't accept that as truth, because the only possible outcome of tic tac toe assuming both players understand the game is cat's game.

If it is true, this is a 13 player game.

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