The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 11:23 pm "Nobody has been killed by the League." Neat.

What are the possibilities for that?

Roleblock
Inactive mafia
Targeted someone who had nightkill immunity (unlikely)
Didnt kill

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 11:20 pm Old school Syndicate would argue you are an independent yourself!

Yeah I’m the cult you got me

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 11:19 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 11:18 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 11:16 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 11:15 pm So i double checke the rolls and have learned 1) there is no laura

2) i was confusing sara for her

3) i might have confused her for her sister Laurel but even then I do not know

I have watched exactly 0 of these shows
My issue is with how freely you want to acknowledge how confused you've been, on top of how concerned you are with independents.

I mean? Deathstroke might as well be an individual mafia team since he doesnt win with town.

Cult tells us how many mafia are left

I dont know how to explain this any easier

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 11:16 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 11:15 pm So i double checke the rolls and have learned 1) there is no laura

2) i was confusing sara for her

3) i might have confused her for her sister Laurel but even then I do not know

I have watched exactly 0 of these shows

So i double checke the rolls and have learned 1) there is no laura

2) i was confusing sara for her

3) i might have confused her for her sister Laurel but even then I do not know

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 11:12 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 11:12 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 11:11 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 11:10 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 11:09 pm Since the legends havent won it looks like my assumption of

“The league of assassins hasnt lost any members or recruited Laura” still remains
Not the legends the cult geez I’m off today
Or they're tied 2-2. Or the cult has lost a member/Rip is dead and there is no cult at all.
If rip died wouldn’t we be told that his wincon failed

Probably not
Would we?

I dont know?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 11:11 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 11:10 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 11:09 pm Since the legends havent won it looks like my assumption of

“The league of assassins hasnt lost any members or recruited Laura” still remains
Not the legends the cult geez I’m off today
Or they're tied 2-2. Or the cult has lost a member/Rip is dead and there is no cult at all.

If rip died wouldn’t we be told that his wincon failed

Probably not

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 11:10 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 11:06 pm We've now got just the assassins to worry about. They've got anywhere from 1-3 members remaining. If it's more than 1 then one of them is unkillable until we remove the others. If Sara was recruited then we have a scum who began the game as town.

There's also probably still a serial killer.
Chances are at least 2 are alive, since the N1 kill was from the League. Unless we hit gold and one of speed/juliets was league but the probability is looooooooow.

Problem is that waiting to lynch Ra means we give it more time for him to recruit Sara. Meanwhile if we lynch him early we probably run into the wall that is Damien. DF is a smooth bastard.

League didnt kill N1

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 11:06 pm We've now got just the assassins to worry about. They've got anywhere from 1-3 members remaining. If it's more than 1 then one of them is unkillable until we remove the others. If Sara was recruited then we have a scum who began the game as town.

There's also probably still a serial killer.

OH IT WAS SARA

who the fuck was laura then

Also they have at least 2

Of course cult couldve been blocked but shrug

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 11:09 pm Since the legends havent won it looks like my assumption of

“The league of assassins hasnt lost any members or recruited Laura” still remains

Not the legends the cult geez I’m off today

Since the legends havent won it looks like my assumption of

“The league of assassins hasnt lost any members or recruited Laura” still remains

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:54 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:53 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:53 pm so dfaraday isn't here
Who closed the poll then
it does that automatically

Oh that’s neat

I’m gonna go dick around while waiting for flips then

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:53 pm so dfaraday isn't here

Who closed the poll then

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:48 pm Worst case: nutella is a civilian but burned out (silver lining).
Best case: nutella is bad and had no answer for the thread.

I always hope for best case

I wanna join the bandwagon but really there’s no need to considering the number of votes

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:44 pm Actually no I'm dumb, league Epi would want to stay clear from Creature too.

Never mind.

I dont think epi’s focus on the day ending early role makes him a speedster tho

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:35 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:32 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:31 pm I want to CFD Epignosis.

@Dragon D. Luffy @Sloonei @Luxurious @Funnygurl555 why should we not lynch Epi for contradicting himself and manipulating the thread indirectly?
How is he manipulating the thread indirectly. Couldnt you just revote nutella
I presume you are a bit lost if you have to ask this but he firstly accused me of trying to deconstruct the Nutella wagon by counter Sloonei wagon with a DDL vote and then took his own vote off her indirectly by voting for you. Then when I asked him about it he flippantly accused me of being suspicious for it. And he gets away with this sort of thing all the time. He's general pathway out of it is to be a prick about it until the experience of accusing him becomes so toxifying to your body that you have to stop or else you need to self medicate.

My only issue with wanting a cfd onto epi is the fact that... it proves what he was saying about countering her wagon? Like i Get It. But i wanted to know how he was indirectly controlling the thread. Like was it in regard to nutella lynch? Was it something else???

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:33 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:32 pm Here we go.

Round 76 of "Mac is either bad or a guy who sucks."

Oh boy.
I'm leaning bad tbh. Or he really has no teeth in this game.

I like to believe he’s just a guy who sucks

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:31 pm I want to CFD Epignosis.

@Dragon D. Luffy @Sloonei @Luxurious @Funnygurl555 why should we not lynch Epi for contradicting himself and manipulating the thread indirectly?

How is he manipulating the thread indirectly. Couldnt you just revote nutella

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:27 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:22 pm Actually A Thought about why Speedsters killed Sabie

Deathstroke has first night kill death immunity

Under the assumption that Sprityo was like, going for deathstroke there, that could’ve been a good thing?

But thea makes more sense
I've considered but then why can't the mafia just let we lynch Deathstroke?

Because then he kills tonight and he could kill them

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:24 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:22 pm Actually A Thought about why Speedsters killed Sabie

Deathstroke has first night kill death immunity

Under the assumption that Sprityo was like, going for deathstroke there, that could’ve been a good thing?

But thea makes more sense
Why are you obsessed with independents?

There's, uh, like real mafia and shit out there.

I'm scared.

I’m trying to account for possible mafia’s still alive

If sabie wasnt a speedster she was deathstroke

Then there’s two speedsters left

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:19 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:11 pm Epi missing my point because I forgot how the cult works smh

People were assuming speed was kill by the vig and Probably Mafia

Under the impression of “the cult wins when they outnumber ONLY the league of assassins. They probably won (under the impression speed was mafia and not a speedster)”

It just meant that either the League recruited Laura, or speedster wasnt mafia
If Laura was recruited I'll cry.

It probably hasnt happened because i made a mistake in my count

Actually A Thought about why Speedsters killed Sabie

Deathstroke has first night kill death immunity

Under the assumption that Sprityo was like, going for deathstroke there, that could’ve been a good thing?

But thea makes more sense

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:18 pm Notice that Nutella and DDL both have their votes poised for saves. I think this is a scum/scum lynch.

Is nutella even here to save herself tho

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:11 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:09 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:07 pm howd u forget again? why'd you even post that @Luxurious
Post what

the post that epi@Luxurious

ok this formatting is off the @@ thing kept happening and i kept tryna delete it but now i'll embrace it
Sake of ease
Lux doesnt like typing out A Lot of words for a simple concept on I understand

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:12 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:09 pm And more to the point: Why is Lux worried about a (pro-civilian) recruiting independent?
HOT TAKES

but i was town reading lux so much b4 idk if i can go back

It’s because lux is the world’s biggest idiot and doesnt learn from her mistakes

Speedchuck not speedster

Epi missing my point because I forgot how the cult works smh

People were assuming speed was kill by the vig and Probably Mafia

Under the impression of “the cult wins when they outnumber ONLY the league of assassins. They probably won (under the impression speed was mafia and not a speedster)”

It just meant that either the League recruited Laura, or speedster wasnt mafia

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:07 pm howd u forget again? why'd you even post that @Luxurious

Post what

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:05 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:59 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:54 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:53 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:51 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:50 pm Epi what if he got cult!converted :S
What are cults and why are you worried about them?
They’re the independent and they should’ve won last night upon converting someone

But either they’re dead >speed >juliets?????

Or the other scum team still has their full team, and even then!!! They may have recruited Laura
The cult only recruits on even nights. They have a max of 2 members right now.
I reread the cult ability and forgot there were two teams I had to add up and account for
How'd you forget there were two teams?

It’s more like

I Know there are two teams but I was still under my “cult is only affected by the One mafia teams number count” from d0 and didnt add the other team into that mafia number

It was just easier to say i forgot about the other team because

I forgot to add their number into the cult wincon

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:56 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:53 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:51 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:50 pm Epi what if he got cult!converted :S
What are cults and why are you worried about them?
They’re the independent and they should’ve won last night upon converting someone

But either they’re dead >speed >juliets?????

Or the other scum team still has their full team, and even then!!! They may have recruited Laura
Who cares? Their job is to whittle down mafia, same as mine. I have no problem with that.

I wasnt saying that I was just thinking they should’ve won should league of assassins lost a member

But forgot it was for Both Teams

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:54 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:53 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:51 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:50 pm Epi what if he got cult!converted :S
What are cults and why are you worried about them?
They’re the independent and they should’ve won last night upon converting someone

But either they’re dead >speed >juliets?????

Or the other scum team still has their full team, and even then!!! They may have recruited Laura
The cult only recruits on even nights. They have a max of 2 members right now.

I reread the cult ability and forgot there were two teams I had to add up and account for

For posterity
Ddl is on creature. For whatever reason my phone refused to show that

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:52 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:50 pm Epi what if he got cult!converted :S
My goal would still be to eliminate the bad guys.

I’m not saying it wasnt lol I was making a Joak

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:51 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:50 pm Epi what if he got cult!converted :S
What are cults and why are you worried about them?

They’re the independent and they should’ve won last night upon converting someone

But either they’re dead >speed >juliets?????

Or the other scum team still has their full team, and even then!!! They may have recruited Laura

Epi what if he got cult!converted :S

Like if they’re scum that’s an easy point to come back to and go “scum wouldnt act like this!!”

Just like ultra/ jay in scrimmage.

He’s just shading ultra there. There’s no read from it and no vote anyway so it’s still inside their potential scum!Team ability

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:44 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:42 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:39 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:34 pm Tbf the lynch I would prefer outside of nutella today would be Ultra so
[VOTE: Ultra] aubergine
Why?
Cooler vote switch

Dont remember anything he’s done today either?

Like he’s voting you outside of nutella and I dont remember that nor why he’d be townreading her

Actually it’s more of a “he could be coasting since I cannot remember anything he has done this day phase”
Is this post compatible with a Cooler/Creature partnership?

I also have no idea why he's voting for me, for what it's worth.

It’s distancing

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:44 pm I mean I'm just listing every scum possibility for nutella.

If she is deathstroke nobody will defend her.

That said I would expect a nutella who drawed freaking Deathstroke to have more enthusiasm. The "last speedster" theory is more interesting, in that sense.

Yeah exactly I feel like town would be more “this is town she’s doing stuff” like people were for Jay last game

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:25 pm Actually since it’s day 3 and the cult recruits during the last night phase and yet no wincon has been establish that means either

A) None of that team has been killed
B) roleblocked?
C) i had a c but it escapes me

C) scum found Laura

Like I dont think nutella is the last speedster if she’s mafia

I also dont know where I’d put creature on my “list of scum vs. list of scum role maybe left in the game”

Like it’d make sense if her burnout happened because speedchuck was mafia and he died and she was apart of the other team though

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:39 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:32 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:26 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:16 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:13 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:11 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:10 pm

What is Awful about the nutella wagon? Are there specific names on it that disturb you?
No it’s the fact there is a lack of a wagon outside of Nutella that makes it Awful
Why? Does “awful” mean “suspicious” or “bad town play”?
Bad town play

If nutella is town we’ve let scum have two run away lynches two days in a row

Usually when you have a scum lynch there’s always some push back on it. No one is town reading nutella

That either means she’s not scum, or scum have given up on saving her. There’s not really even some push back towards it.

If she’s scum then the apology from Lon Con is probably scum!motivated. If she’s town Then it could be either and is NAI
First, I can assure that isn't often the case here. It's never that easy.

Second, the teams are now small enough as it stands. Who is going to raise a voice to support a teammate?
Oh i dont like that rip

Town. Usually scum would be towny enough for someone to raise a point in their favor. And like, I Know nutella hasnt done anything to be town read and want to vote her myself

But at the same time Nothing Is Happening and If She Is Town I will feel bad for letting scum get an easy lynch again.

Anyway the point of “no one is town reading her” is mostly regarding the fact that scum would’ve done enough to get someone to town read them.

However, nutella has also attested to the fact she has not been Here and has not Done Anything which is why I’m kinda shrugs about it.

I just want another wagon in case she flips town so I can at least be like “yah okay I’m comfortable going into d4 and investing this dude”
I mean if nutella is the last speedster then it's not gonna be a hard lynch anyway.

Same for Deathstroke.

Fuck, maybe she's bad with Creature and we got their team pinned down so what can they really do?

This feels too easy lol

Especially since creature has like, vanished into the night

Also what do you mean re: Deathstroke?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:39 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:34 pm Tbf the lynch I would prefer outside of nutella today would be Ultra so
[VOTE: Ultra] aubergine
Why?

Cooler vote switch

Dont remember anything he’s done today either?

Like he’s voting you outside of nutella and I dont remember that nor why he’d be townreading her

Actually it’s more of a “he could be coasting since I cannot remember anything he has done this day phase”

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:35 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:33 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:31 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 8:50 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 8:45 pm Girl it seems more likely that we are mind melding than thunderdoming.

(I can't believe the sentence above makes sense. lol mafia)
Why is Creature a better lynch than nutella?
I could see nutella being town because of burnout and too scummy to be scum.

I just can't see Creature being town. He isn't too scummy to be scum, he's just scum.
How is she twtbaw
I've played against baddie nutella who is trying hard, more than once. If this is baddie nutella it's a 3nd grade one. She isn't trying hard, regardless of alignment, and it could be that we are mistaking her lack of trying for alignment.

Just compare to Scrimmage. It took a whole game for me to start suspecting her and even then I wasn't very sure of it. nutella is good at this.

Im aware of scrimmage I’m just taking burnout into account to.

That also doesnt answer TWTBAW since that’s a meta read and not “basic wolf actions to help partner or just vaguely looks like scummy play”

I mean I guess in the mind of DDL that would be twtbaw for nutella!play wouldnt it

Also with more wagons that gets more people talking about their reads OUTSIDE of nutella and being stagnant

Like if nutella flips scum which team would she be in? Who would be her partner? DDL? Sloonei? Someone else who hasnt interacted with her?

Is she just a 3rd party with no teammates? Who is she?

Tbf the lynch I would prefer outside of nutella today would be Ultra so
[VOTE: Ultra] aubergine

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:31 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 8:50 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 8:45 pm Girl it seems more likely that we are mind melding than thunderdoming.

(I can't believe the sentence above makes sense. lol mafia)
Why is Creature a better lynch than nutella?
I could see nutella being town because of burnout and too scummy to be scum.

I just can't see Creature being town. He isn't too scummy to be scum, he's just scum.

How is she twtbaw

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