The Syndicate

Duskfall wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:36 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:34 pm
Duskfall wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:30 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:28 pm
Duskfall wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:24 pm Drago it's not possible to learn to metaread someone that quick
True but having a game of info on a player to use for your reads is >>> to having none. I have only one game to use as meta and that's the AC game in which FG was town in. I want to balance it with a scum game from her.
Still don't think it's possible to metaread off 2 games you are comparing how they played differently in two games which will always be different

You aren't getting a common thread of behaviour consistent in one alignment in every game, that no does not exist in the other alignment
Tell me, what would you prefer to have? 2 games on a player in which they were opposite alignments or only 1 game from said player as one alignment or no games at all?

Btw, since you are against meta reads based off a small sample size, what do you think about Sloonei's meta read on FG? Just like me, he's only played one game with her.

Say it's worthless and means nothing

Wait, which question are you answering here?

Duskfall wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:30 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:28 pm
Duskfall wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:24 pm Drago it's not possible to learn to metaread someone that quick
True but having a game of info on a player to use for your reads is >>> to having none. I have only one game to use as meta and that's the AC game in which FG was town in. I want to balance it with a scum game from her.
Still don't think it's possible to metaread off 2 games you are comparing how they played differently in two games which will always be different

You aren't getting a common thread of behaviour consistent in one alignment in every game, that no does not exist in the other alignment

Tell me, what would you prefer to have? 2 games on a player in which they were opposite alignments or only 1 game from said player as one alignment or no games at all?

Btw, since you are against meta reads based off a small sample size, what do you think about Sloonei's meta read on FG? Just like me, he's only played one game with her.

Duskfall wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:24 pm Drago it's not possible to learn to metaread someone that quick

True but having a game of info on a player to use for your reads is >>> to having none. I have only one game to use as meta and that's the AC game in which FG was town in. I want to balance it with a scum game from her.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:21 pm
Duskfall wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:19 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:18 pm This is town fg. I'd stake sig's life on it.
Why?
FG has an easy to spot scum game now that I've seen it. She has too much wim here. She goes all myopic and low-key as wolf.

Link the game so we can see if the meta matches or not for ourselves.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:20 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:18 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:16 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:15 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:13 pm @sloonei why i sus hyena: he's one of the people who are conveniently wolf reading me without real reasons. he tried to kill mikey in the shots turbo we played together. consistency in scum play i guess
Huh? I don't get how shooting Mikey in a turbo game is relevant here.
hyena was scum. mikey's an easy mislynch

i'm an easy mislynch rn
What makes you easy?
i mean look at me

i'm likely on most people's shortlists rn, and for what. no one here except mac has even seen me play as scum

Lmao, sorry, this actually made laugh.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:16 pm I think I should have the gun tbh. I'm the better day 1 player and more likely to hit scum than anyone. Give to me.

I fuck with this.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:16 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:15 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:13 pm @sloonei why i sus hyena: he's one of the people who are conveniently wolf reading me without real reasons. he tried to kill mikey in the shots turbo we played together. consistency in scum play i guess
Huh? I don't get how shooting Mikey in a turbo game is relevant here.
hyena was scum. mikey's an easy mislynch

i'm an easy mislynch rn

What makes you easy?

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:13 pm @sloonei why i sus hyena: he's one of the people who are conveniently wolf reading me without real reasons. he tried to kill mikey in the shots turbo we played together. consistency in scum play i guess

Huh? I don't get how shooting Mikey in a turbo game is relevant here.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:09 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:08 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:05 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 12:35 pm
boo wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 12:22 pm I was not saying you would do the shooting. I was saying you were setting up getting me getting shot. You don't need the gun to direct where who gets it will aim it. And it's cleaner for mafia to not get it but have a hand in directing it.

And you know all of that, and it's the second time you've blatantly misrepresented what I have said; the first being when my talking about the mechanics was somehow trying to control what other people are doing.
I hope my last post clears this up a little but I am sorry if I've misrepresented you -- I was posting very late last night and was very much not eloquent and having trouble putting my thoughts into words so I think I mis-articulated some things, particularly the idea that you were trying to "impose" anything on anyone. I didn't mean it that way at all, just a looser idea that you were trying to apply your way of thinking to someone else's content in a way that didn't mesh with their original intentions. I'm not trying to say that your approach is wrong, just that it was misapplied to Mac's approach and I originally thought that you were nefariously trying to make him look bad out of nothing, but I can see that you may have legitimately had that interpretation. I don't know. I'm undecided on you now.

And sure, I was trying to push you as a candidate for shooting. But again nothing is set in stone at this point of the phase and now that I'm not screaming that you're "100% scum" I would appreciate the same courtesy. I was pushing my strong read at the time, which is what I believe townies should do. I was not trying to control the narrative in order to ensure a misfire, as you are insisting.
here you go drago
Thanks. Hmm, I would not give Nutella a bad read for that post.
why's that? i can't metaread nutella yet but i'd generally scum read someone for a play like that

I would too due to the diplomacy that they got going on but this one I don't agree with. I think Nutella genuinely felt sorry there and she really thought she was wrong. She gave a deep explanation for it and while she ended up being on the fence on Boo, the thought process towards it makes sense to me. This is something I can easily see someone from both alignments doing but coming from a genuine place, you get me?

boo wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:06 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 7:48 pm
boo wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 3:51 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 3:43 pm
boo wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 3:34 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 3:32 pm I don't get why we are assuming that the mafia team does not want the gun.
Because being directly responsible for killing a civ is never a good look.
Assuming someone is scum for having a bad read is never a good look.
Not being a good look isn't the same as assuming they're mafia. But if the shooter gets 4 choices to shoot from the thread, and shoots a civ, and then later one (or two) of those 4 turns out to be mafia, that would make re-examining the shooter necessary.

Civ deaths are always an inevitably, but making no effort to mine from those deaths is just wasteful.
Do you mean to reevaluate the player to see why interactions they had with those 2 players that flipped Mafia? If so, what does the player not shooting those mafia have to do with it? Wouldn't you find and read those interactions anyway when you see that a mafia had died regardless of who shot them?

Shooting a civ is almost as NAI as being inactive.
If someone has a subset of players to choose from (presented by the thread at large), when they have the gun, and shoot a civ, and later other members of that same subset turn out to be mafia, I'm saying it's an indication that the player is more likely then other people to be mafia as a result. I'm not saying it's by any means a guarantee, but we have nutella in what you quoted acting like how a person uses the gun isn't going to be useful in game solving. That makes as much sense as acting like a standard lynch can't help in game solving.

Oh, I see what you mean now. I agree too.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:05 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 12:35 pm
boo wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 12:22 pm I was not saying you would do the shooting. I was saying you were setting up getting me getting shot. You don't need the gun to direct where who gets it will aim it. And it's cleaner for mafia to not get it but have a hand in directing it.

And you know all of that, and it's the second time you've blatantly misrepresented what I have said; the first being when my talking about the mechanics was somehow trying to control what other people are doing.
I hope my last post clears this up a little but I am sorry if I've misrepresented you -- I was posting very late last night and was very much not eloquent and having trouble putting my thoughts into words so I think I mis-articulated some things, particularly the idea that you were trying to "impose" anything on anyone. I didn't mean it that way at all, just a looser idea that you were trying to apply your way of thinking to someone else's content in a way that didn't mesh with their original intentions. I'm not trying to say that your approach is wrong, just that it was misapplied to Mac's approach and I originally thought that you were nefariously trying to make him look bad out of nothing, but I can see that you may have legitimately had that interpretation. I don't know. I'm undecided on you now.

And sure, I was trying to push you as a candidate for shooting. But again nothing is set in stone at this point of the phase and now that I'm not screaming that you're "100% scum" I would appreciate the same courtesy. I was pushing my strong read at the time, which is what I believe townies should do. I was not trying to control the narrative in order to ensure a misfire, as you are insisting.
here you go drago

Thanks. Hmm, I would not give Nutella a bad read for that post.

Nothing against you FG but I just wanna talk, like a lot.

I'm finally here to get super active and nobody's here but FG.

Duskfall wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 5:41 pm Nutella wants the gun

Nutella knows she is not getting the gun, so she is voting someone else to get the gun who she thinks is town

Nutella wants the gun as either alignment regardless, this is a ridiculous argument that you could literally replace all nutella for any player not named nanook duskfall or hyena and it would have as much ground as saying it about nutella

Boo, why don't you want the gun and why aren't you trying to get the gun?

Perfectly stated. Into my lock town reads you go.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 5:48 pm Give me the gun.

No.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 7:55 pm
Duskfall wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 12:40 pmNutella town
she just backpedaled in the face of pressure

that's a weak town or an unconfident scum

Quote it. I want to see it.

Duskfall wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 4:56 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 4:54 pm why the hell has the poll been condensed to two options for so long?
I think it is because me and hyena have widely different perspectives so people are afraid to switch off in case it makes the other wagon win? Idk, it is a bit weird but I do think these are good wagons for competing purposes even if hyena getting the gun would be a nightmare

How about this? You and Hyena are my strongest town reads so I want you two to be the leading wagons(aside from myself) in order to minimize the chances of scum getting it.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 5:01 pm Does anyone distrust me with the gun?

Yes.

boo wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 4:32 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 4:24 pm So you think nutella specifically doesn’t want the gun D1 as scum.

Why?
She would want it as town, and make a pretty noticeable effort to form a base that townreads her and will vote for her. That lack of any effort at forming a base (and her explanation for it: Hyena and I suspecting her) is suspicious to me. Anyone town should be on a strong offensive, and that's what her offensive in this format is what I think we'd see. It isn't what I'm seeing from her, I'm seeing some posturing offense and way to much of a defensive mindset. It doesn't fit.

I like the mindset here. It makes sense.

boo wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 3:51 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 3:43 pm
boo wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 3:34 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 3:32 pm I don't get why we are assuming that the mafia team does not want the gun.
Because being directly responsible for killing a civ is never a good look.
Assuming someone is scum for having a bad read is never a good look.
Not being a good look isn't the same as assuming they're mafia. But if the shooter gets 4 choices to shoot from the thread, and shoots a civ, and then later one (or two) of those 4 turns out to be mafia, that would make re-examining the shooter necessary.

Civ deaths are always an inevitably, but making no effort to mine from those deaths is just wasteful.

Do you mean to reevaluate the player to see why interactions they had with those 2 players that flipped Mafia? If so, what does the player not shooting those mafia have to do with it? Wouldn't you find and read those interactions anyway when you see that a mafia had died regardless of who shot them?

Shooting a civ is almost as NAI as being inactive.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 3:43 pm
boo wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 3:34 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 3:32 pm I don't get why we are assuming that the mafia team does not want the gun.
Because being directly responsible for killing a civ is never a good look.
Assuming someone is scum for having a bad read is never a good look.

Is it a bad look then?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 3:26 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 3:24 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 2:52 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 8:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 8:14 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 12:47 pm Nutella is scum, who's with me?
Explain this read, Mr. O'mir.
Let's trade. Give me your reasons on FG, and I'll give you mine on Nut.
Did you ever give yours on Nut? :P
No. I don't think I will. Not feeling it.
Can you at least talk us through the thoughts you had? I don't care if you've moved on from them. I just want to know what made you think she was bad earlier, and why you've changed your mind.

I didn't like the way Nutella was formulating her reads. It felt that she was just piggybacking off of what others were saying. The Duskfall and Nanook town reads for example and the Mac scum read. They didn't read genuine.

I decided to iso her to gain more depth to my read but I came out changing my mind for the tone of her posts. She was playing similar to me. Doing whatever the hell came onto her mind. She was flinging shit out and I liked that mindset since we shared it. It didn't come off as a tryharding wolf.

Now, I'm leaning scum again. I despise the pre-emptive defense she gave in one of her posts and her case on Boo.

Hyena wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 2:52 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 8:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 8:14 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 12:47 pm Nutella is scum, who's with me?
Explain this read, Mr. O'mir.
Let's trade. Give me your reasons on FG, and I'll give you mine on Nut.
Did you ever give yours on Nut? :P

No. I don't think I will. Not feeling it.

Duskfall wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 12:47 pm Cause nutella is town so stop pushing that please

She's town cause she made long posts? Bad read. I'll have you know that this site is notorious for containing players that do stuff like that as either alignment. It's not AI. Don't fall for the same trap I was in during my first game here.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 2:37 am I decided to do an iso on Nutella. I don't scum read her anymore.

[mention]Sloonei[/mention] read. I will say tho, the scum read is coming back after reading her recent posts but I want to dive into it more.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 2:46 am
boo wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 7:33 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 4:51 am I have gamesolve anyway.

boo - scum
Dragomir - town
DrWilgy - doesn't matter cuz my towncore is big enough
Duskfall - town
Funnygurl555 - scum
G-Man - doesn't matter cuz my towncore is big enough
Hyena - town
Jackofhearts2005 - doesn't matter cuz my towncore is big enough
Johann - doesn't matter cuz my towncore is big enough
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - town
nutella - town
Sloonei - town

Shooting order:

FG > Boo > G-Man > Wilgy > Jack > Johann

Game winning POE already.
You're not great at math, huh? "doesn't matter cuz my towncore is big enough" = "if a single one of my scum reads is wrong [and spoiler alert: at least one is], following this would 100% lose the game. If both are right [nope], but my towncore is wrong, following this would 100% lose the game".

Or you're bad and think everyone else is terrible at figuring out odds?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 2:49 am Anyway Mac is scum discuss.
[VOTE: nutella] aubergine: shoot him, kthanks.
oh and then there was this! that post above was really bad but I think this one is when my scumread of boo really solidified. It's a gross misinterpretation of Mac's intentions, and maybe it's just boo being out of touch with Mac's style or general recent site meta, but it just felt like such a bad criticism that I think it was disingenuous and coming from a wolf trying to poke holes in mac's process. Like he's trying to make an argument that this doesn't make mathematical sense but that entirely misses the point. Maybe he's just an overly logical mathematical person but when he tries to impose that way of thinking on other people I find it suspicious.

I'm not really sure what you're saying here. I'm confused.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 2:43 am
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 2:43 am
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 2:42 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 2:30 am Because in Assassin’s Creed you were easy breezy loosey goosey and let the game comd to you at whatever pace it may. You were open about your lack of reads early on. This game it feels more like you’re making a deliberate effort to promote reads. It’s a contrast to what made you a firm town read in your previous incarnation.
mikey's not here
Why does that matter?
i miss him T_____T

GTH on Nutella and Sloonei. Go.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 2:42 am
boo wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 8:00 am I got my PM and do not care when phases start/end.

Self-killing makes zero sense @Johann.

We should give the gun to someone with a subset of players they're allowed to choose from to shoot.

If they go outside that, they got shot next.

I think it's better then deciding on a specific player because that keeps mafia from being able to control the conversation easily.

And at 13 players, 10/3 split... Assuming the gun always gets used (no ties, but in most cases that should be easy enough to avoid since we can hammer)... We can only afford like 4 gun uses on a civ? One or two more if we get 1 or 2 of the mafia mixed in with that? Right? It's too early for me to be mathing. But it's a general point.

Then once we have a baddie killed, players who had them in their subset but chose not to shoot them can be looked at more in depth. Plus that's a way to try and force the mafia into bussing if they do get the gun.
this is boo's first post and it's basically stating the obvious about how the game works. imo it's fluff

boo wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 8:55 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 8:52 pm COMPROMISE is what makes this country GREAT, except when it’s MY IDEALS, in which case we must be UNCOMPROMISING in the face of ADVERSITY
something something towncore, something something if I get the gun I'll shoot you, something something casual mention of someone who hasn't even posted but I am saying is either 100% town or mafia. Actually, no. Strike that. They're the secret independent role that isn't stated in the roles. Probably? But I don't know, because reading host posts is apparently for nerds, so I haven't done that.
this is... what the actual fuck is this. this is a scum post 99% of the time it exists.

Wait, is this all you got against him?

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 2:42 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 2:30 am Because in Assassin’s Creed you were easy breezy loosey goosey and let the game comd to you at whatever pace it may. You were open about your lack of reads early on. This game it feels more like you’re making a deliberate effort to promote reads. It’s a contrast to what made you a firm town read in your previous incarnation.
mikey's not here

Why does that matter?

nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 2:40 am
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 2:01 am i actually would like to know why nutella is scum reading boo. for the record i'm not-- i just think g-man's tr of him is bs
just basically all of his posts have felt scummy to me. like sort of in an out-of-touch and mechanics-focused way. and before sloonei says that pointing out mechanics talk as suspicious is more suspicious than mechanics talk itself, for me it was more specifically the nature of what he was talking about. I'll find an example

Tsk tsk tsk, a pre-emptive defense right here. Nutella goes back to a scum read.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 2:34 am I scum read funnygurl specifically because she does not look how she did in Assassin’s Creed.

She was mostly a town read for me in that game. I wavered because of unfamiliarity a few times, but she was never a suspect for any prolonged stretch of time.

I hardly see a difference between current FG and AC mafia FG. Tho, I will say, the game hasn't progressed long enough for me to have a solid conclusion on if the meta matches or not.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 2:32 am
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 2:25 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 1:59 am I don't really see much AI from funnygurl tbh, as I recall from partially reading AC Mafia she just tends to draw heat a fair bit early?
She got town read like the whole game.
The spoiled dead chat doesn’t count

From what I remember, she got town read the whole game. At least for the time I was alive.

I decided to do an iso on Nutella. I don't scum read her anymore.

I like G-man. I'ma put a good read on him.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 1:59 am I don't really see much AI from funnygurl tbh, as I recall from partially reading AC Mafia she just tends to draw heat a fair bit early?

She got town read like the whole game.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 8:14 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 12:47 pm Nutella is scum, who's with me?
Explain this read, Mr. O'mir.

Let's trade. Give me your reasons on FG, and I'll give you mine on Nut.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 5:48 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 3:03 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 2:42 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 2:41 pm @Hyena if you get the gun, will you shoot Nutella?
Most likely, yeah.
Good shit. Everyone, give Hyena the gun.
This reads townie independent of Nutella's alignment. Moreso if Hyena is town.

Why? What about that post is good?

Man, I do not feel like mafia'ing right now. I'm tired.

Duskfall wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 2:46 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 2:40 pm
Duskfall wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 2:36 pm Everything that hyena is saying rn seems to me like what scum would think town would say rather than someone who is town actually thinking towards their wincon
Specify on how his posts give that vibe to you.
They seek to be trying to care about who's getting the gun now because they are thinking it'd towny to give town the gun

They aren't thinking about, "if I am cleared town, then giving the gun to someone who has suggested shooting me is a terrible idea", which they should be thinking if town

And who has voiced their opinion about shooting Hyena that the latter wants to give a gun to?

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 2:42 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 2:41 pm @Hyena if you get the gun, will you shoot Nutella?
Most likely, yeah.

Good shit. Everyone, give Hyena the gun.

[mention]Hyena[/mention] if you get the gun, will you shoot Nutella?

Why does Duskfall have the most votes?

Duskfall wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 2:36 pm Everything that hyena is saying rn seems to me like what scum would think town would say rather than someone who is town actually thinking towards their wincon

Specify on how his posts give that vibe to you.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 12:53 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 12:47 pm Nutella is scum, who's with me?
Pass

Lame.

Nutella is scum, who's with me?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 5:20 am
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 5:10 am @MacDougall your Hyena scum read goes against my town read on her. Talk to me about your read.
Hyena seems aright it's just that FG/Hyena feel like teammates. The "oh revenge shoot lol" thing seems like bs. They went on about it too much. If FG flips town I'll probably drop the read entirely.

Oh, so the read on Hyena is dependent on your FG read? If so, what makes FG scum? I'm not feeling that direction atm.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 5:10 am
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 5:06 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 2:21 am
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 2:09 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 12:49 am There are 162 posts and I have 37 of them ~22%), while that’s a terrible baseball record it is a pretty solid yards per carry

What a time to be alive
Hey, you have the most votes on the poll right now. What do you think about those voting for you?
I think they’re very smart and good people!
So GTH they're all town?
Do you think Nanook is a wolf?

Nah.

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] your Hyena scum read goes against my town read on her. Talk to me about your read.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 2:21 am
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 2:09 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 12:49 am There are 162 posts and I have 37 of them ~22%), while that’s a terrible baseball record it is a pretty solid yards per carry

What a time to be alive
Hey, you have the most votes on the poll right now. What do you think about those voting for you?
I think they’re very smart and good people!

So GTH they're all town?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 2:00 am
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 12:35 am Johann's self-killing makes perfect sense in the scenario that he presented it in.
you're wrong but ok

Why am I wrong?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 12:49 am There are 162 posts and I have 37 of them ~22%), while that’s a terrible baseball record it is a pretty solid yards per carry

What a time to be alive

Hey, you have the most votes on the poll right now. What do you think about those voting for you?

Psst, [mention]nutella[/mention] *whispers* are you bad?

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 4:22 pm I'm bored with the convo about Johann self-shooting. I'm so bored with it, I refuse to reread it and make reads from it.

Hyena is town. Lock it and throw the key away.

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