The Syndicate

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:00 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:01 am Post Cap

Kill me if you want it's probably good for thread health to remove me from this game at this point. Sorry for ruining the game vibe and stuff.

Don't kill Kate I have mech. It could be wrong but I at least want a chance to get answers before she dies.

Kill Dennis and Wilgy they are woofin.

Top town is like HK Creature Rondo... probably Sig to. Think that's my town core.

Don't wanna kill LPP or Kate today.

Peace.

Should we be concerned?

Kate claimed Neon could redirect all actions on her back to whoever targeted her twice per game. I don't think that qualifies as something Neon can use to mech clear Kate?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:04 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:01 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:00 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:57 pm Behold the wiggamawum:
Creature - Can be a wolf but I'm thinking it's the least confident of my wolf reads.

DooM - will become IC at EoD and is otherwise resolved.

Flacon - solid town read. Good voting track and has shown good hunting intuition.

HK - I don't think Dennis all ins next to a teammate in vote twice on a small wagon like Chihiro. Cleared for that.

JDizz - get em out of here

Kate - poor Kate can only post in eyeballs and is the next to be yeeted. No reason to not yeet, but still feel bad that a self defense cannot even be made.

Lucy - 3p

Rondo - did some day early mechanics to kill Dennis... But I've been think about this one and Dennis was pretty cooked. Idk seems like a really shitty power to give to a wolf, so that makes me think it was town sided. If I'm wrong anywhere thinking there's a town it's here.

Scrappy - idk what this slot is tbh.

Sig - Has shown attributes of town and is likely not a wolf with Kate. To be determined by Kate yeet.

What about you?

Wolf. Kill it.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:01 pm So if we take out Lucy and Scrappy, then there's 8 left, 5 vs 3.

Hmm... We could be at lylo rn and not even know it.

If there's a miss, then it's 4 vs 3 and then a NK.

lmao. Wolves gonna try to sneak this on us weren't they?

I need everyone to really put out cases and explanation for why they are voting where. I'm afraid if we are wrong on Kate we will just lose the game.

What a terrible kate defense. I am IC due to Creature parity check from sig or whatever. Go try somewhere else Wilgy.

I received the parity check from DOOM most likely ftr.

Also you can be wolf if:
1) Dennis used ventriloquism on you to a town during N2;
2) I am lying about the parity check, but I know I am not.

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:56 pm kate silent voted creature

Yeah I suppose the remaining wolves might try to get me lynched over Kate near EOD therefore any person who doesn't live in a trailer with a dog should avoid that wagon like the prague.

Alright so my wagon is composed of DrWilgy who is supposed to vote me due DOOM's role, RondoDimBuckle who is very likely a true cop check unless he was specifically targeted by Dennis' ventriloquist N2 and Kate who is wolf in almost every aspect.

idk if I should be surprised this is my wagon composition, I just don't want to find myself getting more votes before EOD. Kate should always get lynched today and then likely by tomorrow you won't need to worry about me anymore.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:23 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:14 am Also like it's pretty laughable to wolfread me atp. tbh I would rather just chainlynch Kate and JDizz10 and hopefully we're down to the last wolf by tomorrow. I am going to be either nightkilled or have the last wolf pegged down.

Idk dood. Dennis ISO look pretty bad for you I think.

At the start of the game Dennis called you a wolf and multiple times put you on an elim list, but never 1st to be yeeted. This can be interpreted as a safety net to work with on distancing.

Then Dennis calls you a town leader and all inclination of doubt is suddenly gone w/o explanation.

Other noticable subjects include the hard town read on Kate which was perpetual. And a specific lack of interaction with JDizz and DOOM.

Should prob read my play instead. tbh Dennis did almost nothing impactful this game so of course he's gonna lack interaction with a lot of players. I was one of the most active players at the time so of course he's also gonna hold more interactions with me.

Also like it's pretty laughable to wolfread me atp. tbh I would rather just chainlynch Kate and JDizz10 and hopefully we're down to the last wolf by tomorrow. I am going to be either nightkilled or have the last wolf pegged down.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:10 am

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:49 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:50 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:39 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:39 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:26 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:16 pm

It's unfortunately bad. You have a badvote mid d2, ended on Jack and are most likely the remaining wolf on that wagon. If we add my own personal knowledge to this data, only you and creature were on me EoD 3, thus another bad vote.

I'd say there's 1 in Creature/You. I'm unsure which.

I think your VC reads are bad.

Your reaction here i dislike.

Wigly's vote logic isn't bad, he is wrong on me, but I wouldn't say he is entirely wrong

you saying this when you dont know my alignment is??

I find your role towny and I know I am town, therefore his logic is definitely flawed. That's especially taking into consideration I am fairly confident Kate is a wolf and I can see JDizz10 also being a wolf here. Therefore VCA is quite unwarranted here.

So you agree with 2/4 in my PoE and it's bad? Tell me Creature, how would've I gotten to my PoE that you call bad but half accurate, therefore game solving, without the VCA?

And you've actually not argued any point made by the VCA either.

Kate and JDizz10 are wolfy independent of your VCA tbh. It's the one wolf in me/DOOM part that is bad.

Wait... youll respond to this but not my case?

I am not a parity cop if that's what you want to know. I received it from DOOM.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:50 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:39 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:39 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:26 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:16 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:10 pm Can someone let me know, is my voting good or bad? I'm too lazy to read these lists

It's unfortunately bad. You have a badvote mid d2, ended on Jack and are most likely the remaining wolf on that wagon. If we add my own personal knowledge to this data, only you and creature were on me EoD 3, thus another bad vote.

I'd say there's 1 in Creature/You. I'm unsure which.

I think your VC reads are bad.

Your reaction here i dislike.

Wigly's vote logic isn't bad, he is wrong on me, but I wouldn't say he is entirely wrong

you saying this when you dont know my alignment is??

I find your role towny and I know I am town, therefore his logic is definitely flawed. That's especially taking into consideration I am fairly confident Kate is a wolf and I can see JDizz10 also being a wolf here. Therefore VCA is quite unwarranted here.

So you agree with 2/4 in my PoE and it's bad? Tell me Creature, how would've I gotten to my PoE that you call bad but half accurate, therefore game solving, without the VCA?

And you've actually not argued any point made by the VCA either.

Kate and JDizz10 are wolfy independent of your VCA tbh. It's the one wolf in me/DOOM part that is bad.

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:39 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:26 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:16 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:10 pm Can someone let me know, is my voting good or bad? I'm too lazy to read these lists

It's unfortunately bad. You have a badvote mid d2, ended on Jack and are most likely the remaining wolf on that wagon. If we add my own personal knowledge to this data, only you and creature were on me EoD 3, thus another bad vote.

I'd say there's 1 in Creature/You. I'm unsure which.

I think your VC reads are bad.

Your reaction here i dislike.

Wigly's vote logic isn't bad, he is wrong on me, but I wouldn't say he is entirely wrong

you saying this when you dont know my alignment is??

I find your role towny and I know I am town, therefore his logic is definitely flawed. That's especially taking into consideration I am fairly confident Kate is a wolf and I can see JDizz10 also being a wolf here. Therefore VCA is quite unwarranted here.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:16 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:10 pm Can someone let me know, is my voting good or bad? I'm too lazy to read these lists

It's unfortunately bad. You have a badvote mid d2, ended on Jack and are most likely the remaining wolf on that wagon. If we add my own personal knowledge to this data, only you and creature were on me EoD 3, thus another bad vote.

I'd say there's 1 in Creature/You. I'm unsure which.

I think your VC reads are bad.

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:32 pm So I have Kate, Rondo, Creature and Wilgy as town

is this bad?

Kate is not town.

DrWilgy may or may not be town.

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:52 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:51 pm

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:49 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:47 pm Alright I might listen on you about JDizz10.

What about hollowkatt? I thought Mac was decently confident they were town here:

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:17 pm I am quite confident Hollowkatt is in his town meta.

na na na, tell me about what you guys talked about in the night and your thoughts on him

then i'll tell you what me and rask talked about

Honestly I wasn't really interested in talking that night. hollowkatt did mostly of the talking. Should I sum up what hollowkatt talked about or should I try to paraphrase everything hollowkatt talked about?

sum rhymes with cum so give me that

Alright I hate rereading some chat I wasn't even interested about but here it goes:

hk comes in saying this is the only chat they got, they also got nothing (items) and they think all subs being town is mathematically unlikely (although considers a bad reason). hk mentions rask's alignment will be obvious the next day and puts out a readslist that hk later posted in-thread the next day:

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:14 pm I had chat with Creature last night.
This is the last list I had in the chat:

my last list:
town: Dennis, Mac, Jack, Sig
lean town: Neon, Kate, Falcon, DooM
null bucket: jdizz, creature
3P: lucy/scrappy
poe: wigly, rondo, dunya, chihiro

creature can share his thoughts later if he wants to I guess, I'm not outing them.

I ask hk about doom giving me an item to be town and hk answers doom seems to believe I am town in a believable way. Then we talked about doom voting me at some point, hk questioned where doom voted me because she never voted me in her iso but i was sure she did because i remember someone mentioning her vote on me, so we kept asking ourselves who it could be until I figured it was sig here:

sig wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:16 pm And Omega why are you voting for Creature

We also talked a little about anticlaim, hk brought up doom claimed a thing and chihiro claimed another thing about kate and neon, something involving chihiro targeting kate and giving the results to neon and then getting annoyed when neon did nothing about it. I asked about why chihiro got wagoned and hk said it had to do with the way chihiro treated crichard during his fight with neon and kate. I suppose it had to do with chihiro's role regarding neon and kate.

hk also had drwilgy and rondo as wolves and said crichard's posting was bad but mac's posting was good. I mentioned something about neon possibly being [wolf role] and hk seemed to agree with it. hk also wondered if crichard/neon could've been wolf theater. I said we were about to find out about crich/mac depending on whether mac survived or not and hk agreed with it. Then nothing else was said and the night ended.

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:49 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:47 pm Alright I might listen on you about JDizz10.

What about hollowkatt? I thought Mac was decently confident they were town here:

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:17 pm I am quite confident Hollowkatt is in his town meta.

na na na, tell me about what you guys talked about in the night and your thoughts on him

then i'll tell you what me and rask talked about

Honestly I wasn't really interested in talking that night. hollowkatt did mostly of the talking. Should I sum up what hollowkatt talked about or should I try to paraphrase everything hollowkatt talked about?

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:06 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 5:55 pm EVENT: Potent Potions

5 different-colored vials of liquid are sitting on the table in the foyer of the mansion: Orange, Green, Bubbling, Pink, and Black.. Any player can tag the host and announce in thread to drink a specific vial, with any effects announced at each 24 hour mark in the day. Only one player may drink each vial, and players may not drink more than one.

@Scotty Pink

I really hope I didn't drink poison.

If Kate drank the poison potion that would be good.

Alright I might listen on you about JDizz10.

What about hollowkatt? I thought Mac was decently confident they were town here:

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:17 pm I am quite confident Hollowkatt is in his town meta.

sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:37 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:31 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:29 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:26 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:25 pm She also told you all that she had mech proving I was civ. Shocking that she died. Guys, seriously?

two people outed mech that Rondo is town yet Rondo lives. isn't that weird or am I the only one saying it

It’s a bit odd, but not so odd I’d want to vote them over Kate for multiple reasons

Are you capable of making a post without mentioning me? Who are my partners?

Process of elimination it’s between

JD
Wilgy
DOOM
Falcon
Creature
Hk

I don’t think it’s Falcon, creature or Hk

Wilgy could be mafia but, he called me hard headed which was a civ point, his analysis of Dennis was spot on, and when you flip it either means he’s deep wolfing which he doesn’t typically do if I remember correctly or is town. likely he’s town.

That leave DOOM or JD.

I do town read DOOM personally so that’s an odd one I’ll need to review her posts

JD is likely mafia his focus on lucy all game + lack of content in other areas point to it.

If we’re lucky maybe there’s only 3 mafia members? But, that doesn’t seem realistic for a game this size.

I find DOOM's role towny ftr. DrWilgy can prob check it too.

Rondo's power also justifies why he wasn't killed last night.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:35 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:04 pm Just realized Rondo can't be cleared anymore due to ventriloquist.

What a scummy thing to say creature I just used my one shot power to murder Dennis early and save us some time

Oh right you ended the day. I think you're likely town anyway because ventriloquist can only redirect actions from one player to another and wolves must need to target you specifically for my check to be fake.

Hold on. Dennis' ventriloquist action is redirect actions from A to B. I thought it was universal.

Do you think actions on Rondo could've been redirected to someone else N2? Because like the only way my parity cop check is fake is if wolves redirected actions from Rondo to someone else aligned with Mac during N2.

Alright we can just vote Kate out today for:

1. lucy/Scrappy Doo's win con
2. wolfy vote on me
3. wolfy claim

DrWilgy can keep voting me for DOOM's thing

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:19 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:18 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:03 pm I was told to murder [VOTE: Creature ] aubergine

Was it a message from another player or your own mech?

Idk, God spoke to me in a pirate accent.

Uh I also received a pirate accent message when I was told to vote CRichard/Mac.

DOOM, is it you?

Like, I received a message to vote CRichard/MacDougall D2 and got awarded for it. DOOM claimed she gave me it.

I don't think anyone has ever wolfread me here. Therefore, DrWilgy is either lying or received it from actual wolf.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:17 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:03 pm I was told to murder [VOTE: Creature ] aubergine

I'd rather vote sig but since I don't think wilgy is bad, I'll put my vote here.

[VOTE: creature] aubergine

That's a terrible vote.

I am going to trust my initial gut that sig is town. Is that alright?

I also thought JDizz10 was pretty pure. So I am keeping them as town.

I guess falcon45ca is towny enough too?

Also, is lucy also affected by Dennis' ventriloquist?

I think we probably vote out Kate for lucy/Scrappy Doo.

I think DOOM's still town, but unless someone can prove ventriloquist wasn't used N2, I can no longer clear him.

I also know ventriloquist wasn't used N1.

Oh welp this may have been poor planning.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 5:55 pm EVENT: Potent Potions

5 different-colored vials of liquid are sitting on the table in the foyer of the mansion: Orange, Green, Bubbling, Pink, and Black.. Any player can tag the host and announce in thread to drink a specific vial, with any effects announced at each 24 hour mark in the day. Only one player may drink each vial, and players may not drink more than one.

@Scotty Pink

Just realized Rondo can't be cleared anymore due to ventriloquist.

This is so unfortunate because I just got Neon cleared.

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:29 pm i might pick kate tomorrow, what do you guys think @RondoDimBuckle @Creature

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:30 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:29 pm Oh right there's also lucy and Scrappy Doo.

I am still concerned lucy might be wolf fakeclaiming third party but meh. Is lucy saying she can leave the game if we lynch Dennis here?

i need to correctly predict dennis and another lynch, then i leave

Alright we're pretty damned if Dennis and Kate are both town.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:27 pm I need to get some reads.

Rondo is locktown fmpov barring borderline bastard shenanigans. DoOm should be pretty much town. I still think falcon45ca is likely town. JDizz10 felt pretty pure unless I am underestimating him. I am kinda trusting Mac when he said hollowkatt was town. Then there's sig who I thought was town but some players were wolfreading him.

That should make it:

RondoDimBuckle
DaughterOfOmega
falcon45ca
JDizz10
hollowkatt
sig

Is this right?

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:29 pm Oh right there's also lucy and Scrappy Doo.

I am still concerned lucy might be wolf fakeclaiming third party but meh. Is lucy saying she can leave the game if we lynch Dennis here?

If I am right on all of my townreads and lucy is indeed 3p, that means the wolfteam must be between:

Dennis
DrWilgy
Kate
le petit poussin
Neon

Oh right there's also lucy and Scrappy Doo.

I am still concerned lucy might be wolf fakeclaiming third party but meh. Is lucy saying she can leave the game if we lynch Dennis here?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:25 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:24 pm Alright then I really don't care which of Dennis and Kate goes over. Preferably, both should be resolved.

There are still other players I need to sort. Neon should be one of them. Why are you all calling her town?

I have also decided you are my ride or die for town this game because I always misyeet you.

I literally wasted a parity cop check on you and Mac so that better be worth it.

I need to get some reads.

Rondo is locktown fmpov barring borderline bastard shenanigans. DoOm should be pretty much town. I still think falcon45ca is likely town. JDizz10 felt pretty pure unless I am underestimating him. I am kinda trusting Mac when he said hollowkatt was town. Then there's sig who I thought was town but some players were wolfreading him.

That should make it:

RondoDimBuckle
DaughterOfOmega
falcon45ca
JDizz10
hollowkatt
sig

Is this right?

Alright then I really don't care which of Dennis and Kate goes over. Preferably, both should be resolved.

There are still other players I need to sort. Neon should be one of them. Why are you all calling her town?

Technically I should be voting Kate because Rondo, who I know to be town, is voting Kate while the Dennis wagon is full of sketchy players and the claimed third party who I can't tell if it is townsiding or wolfsiding, but meh I kinda still prefer to vote Dennis. So I'm in a mad dilemma here.

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:04 pm If the true town would stop and think for a minute, the reason they are pushing me now is because you all forced me to put my info into the thread.

Anyway, I won't quit til I run out of posts but

Neon is civ, Dennis is mafia.

Alright, Kate says Dennis is mafia. Therefore it's likely at least one wolf in Dennis/Kate.

I am kinda skeptical about Kate calling Neon town. Why is Neon town?

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:09 pm @Creature @hollowkatt

If you had to pick one of the two wagons which would you go with

I am alright with either. I don't know if it's w/w, but I don't have a firm townread on any of them.

I didn't receive a vig shot ftr, only a parity cop check.

I don't know what that means for DOOM, but I assume there shouldn't have a wolf role like this?

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:35 pm @Creature can you confirm DoOm's stuff pls?

@sig: I see pyxxy sussing DoOm too before EOD. Prolly something to keep in mind if it gets ugly.

I am confirming DoOm's stuff.

Neon might be a wolf too but idk how to elaborate.

Man I hope I didn't waste a check.

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:32 pm MacDougall and Roxy/RondoDimBuckle are the same alignment.

This is a check.

Btw I think DOOM is likely town.

MacDougall and Roxy/RondoDimBuckle are the same alignment.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:59 pm Really poor.

I'll get killed tonight. Gl town.

What is your legacy?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:59 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:58 pm Jack, who should go next if you flip town?

Doom.

Why?

Jack, who should go next if you flip town?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:56 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:55 pm I am voting CRichard for the vig benefit. I am prob vigging one of the wagons.

Creature please no. I spent all day pushing CR. I was wrong. I know you were voting me before and I’m saying this knowing it may cause you to vote me again.

CR/Mac is town. Do something helpful with your vote.

I am technically doing something helpful with my vote if DOOM is telling the truth.

Jack's still my preferred wagon ftr