The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:09 pm I didn't target anybody Night 1. I don't know what else to say.

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Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:01 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:37 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:33 pm We have a long day available, and remember that with LyLo hammer voting eyven a singe errant civilian vote threatens to ruin the game.

It’s a team of three. Let’s find them all while nutella and I can be here for you.

yeah that's why i'm holstering my vote even though epi's gotta be a wolf fmpov

don't even think my claim was that useful given y'all gave sloonei the killing ability and that alone disproves epi's claim, but i hope it helps with y'all reading me

It doesn't disprove my claim.

ts account wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:51 am I hate to be the person to bring it up, but it is interesting Turnip Head is looking for a team of three. I thought with 15 players it would be more likely that we are looking at a team of four.

does a wolf say this about their partner?

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:47 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:47 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:46 pm Well, she is telling the truth
I do not know anything about assassin's creed to know if the ability is in flavor for the character or not.

me neither lmao

why'd you ask me to character claim then

For the chance to catch you in a lie, for the most part.

oh ok. fair enough

YAY YOU FINALLY THINK I'M TOWN it only took us getting to lylo

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:46 pm Well, she is telling the truth
I do not know anything about assassin's creed to know if the ability is in flavor for the character or not.

me neither lmao

why'd you ask me to character claim then

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:42 pm And with that I am caught up. I believe funnygurl 100% here, but just to confirm, I would like her to character claim.

bayek

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:33 pm We have a long day available, and remember that with LyLo hammer voting eyven a singe errant civilian vote threatens to ruin the game.

It’s a team of three. Let’s find them all while nutella and I can be here for you.

yeah that's why i'm holstering my vote even though epi's gotta be a wolf fmpov

don't even think my claim was that useful given y'all gave sloonei the killing ability and that alone disproves epi's claim, but i hope it helps with y'all reading me

lmao mikey look at all this

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:09 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:06 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:03 pm Funnygurl555 is your role the same as Drago's flipped role?

nah it's different in that i can't use the same one of my actions back to back. one of them is i can visit someone and the other is someone watches over me and i get protected

I'm not sure I understand the second one. Is it that you choose someone to bodyguard you, and if you are targeted for a kill that person dies instead?

i have a 50% chance to survive a kill

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:06 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:03 pm @Funnygurl555 is your role the same as Drago's flipped role?

nah it's different in that i can't use the same one of my actions back to back. one of them is i can visit someone and the other is someone watches over me and i get protected

*watch over someone

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:03 pm @Funnygurl555 is your role the same as Drago's flipped role?

nah it's different in that i can't use the same one of my actions back to back. one of them is i can visit someone and the other is someone watches over me and i get protected

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:01 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:58 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:55 pm @nutella it may be prudent in light of this development to reveal our Thing. What do you think?

Sure.

We gave Sloonei the ability to either kill or save someone N2. I think we both arrived at the conclusion (from his posts today) that he is likely responsible for TH's death.

I thought so. Did you guys catch my “fruitful” pun earlier? Did you? Did you get it?

Yeah, I killed TH. Hence why I don’t believe Epi when he says he roleblocked me.

LOL

(gj with the kill)

ooo what thing

n1 epi ted and dragomir visited mac
n2 i had to have someone watch me which gave me some protection

i have two alternating roles so

im not lying lol

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:42 pm I didn't target anyone Night 1. I felt ashamed about it. I don't like missing Night actions.

but i saw you visit mac n1

please explain this

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:40 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:38 pm whatever that was a repetitive question

epi targeted mac n1

Super juicy. Epi claims roleblocker and has allegedly targeted the two most established civilian reads in the game on the first two nights.

i just don't think he's a roleblocker

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:38 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:36 pm did you not send an action at all n1 epi?

I did not. That was my fault and it was uncharacteristic of me. I was in two games at once and I was focusing on the other and missed the deadline.

liar liar pants on fire

whatever that was a repetitive question

epi targeted mac n1

did you not send an action at all n1 epi?

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:28 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:15 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:08 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:07 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:06 pm [VOTE: funnygurl555] aubergine

I don't feel like your reads/progressions on TH were legitimate.

rip

Who should nutella vote for instead of you?

i don't know. given turnip head and tsp's back and forth last eod i can't really suspect him that bad anymore

you look really good coming out of that eod. i'ma still say that speed looks good too (voted th at 6:52 EDT when EOD was 7 EDT).

so we got mikey (cry), long con, epi

and from that list i'd go epi

anyone got an eod votecount handy?

Is the "cry" another indication of being upset that you may have been wrongly trusting of mikey?

yeah. i'm like really hoping he's town 'cause it would be cool to play on the same team as a friend when i'm in a new environment. in past games, instead of earnestly reading him, i fell into the trap of clearing him 'cause i want him to be town, and that's completely thrown off my reads in games before.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:27 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:23 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:19 pm Funnygurl, something weird just happened in this game and I demand that you acknowledge it

what happened? you being in the game?

nutella and I both. Just seemed weird to post stuff without making note of the fact that two strangers randomly appeared

ngl i kinda expected it

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:24 pm One of funnygurl or ts account would be the name I’d add to my POE, I guess.

if mikey's a wolf i will wolf read him in every future game. you think my rivalry with t-force is bad?

mark my words man

but for now i gotta trust on his scout honor

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:23 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:09 pm i mean i can't blame you for thinking that. defending a wolf at eod is bad look but i'm also town so pls no

where'd mikey go

I'm not 100% sold by any means, your behavior today will be paramount to my final decision but consider yourself under scrutiny.

ok :O

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:22 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:18 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:17 pm Why do I look good from the eod yesterday?

you were on th and didn't waver. that's kinda what started the eod wagon. also apparently you didn't know when eod was lmao

Maybe I didn’t waver because I didn’t know the day was ending. Maybe I would have.

your teammates woulda @'d you yeah? ehh w/e i just think it's more likely than not that you're town from that eod

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:19 pm Funnygurl, something weird just happened in this game and I demand that you acknowledge it

what happened? you being in the game?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:17 pm Why do I look good from the eod yesterday?

you were on th and didn't waver. that's kinda what started the eod wagon. also apparently you didn't know when eod was lmao

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:08 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:07 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:06 pm [VOTE: funnygurl555] aubergine

I don't feel like your reads/progressions on TH were legitimate.

rip

Who should nutella vote for instead of you?

i don't know. given turnip head and tsp's back and forth last eod i can't really suspect him that bad anymore

you look really good coming out of that eod. i'ma still say that speed looks good too (voted th at 6:52 EDT when EOD was 7 EDT).

so we got mikey (cry), long con, epi

and from that list i'd go epi

anyone got an eod votecount handy?

i mean i can't blame you for thinking that. defending a wolf at eod is bad look but i'm also town so pls no

where'd mikey go

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:06 pm [VOTE: funnygurl555] aubergine

I don't feel like your reads/progressions on TH were legitimate.

rip

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:53 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:51 pm i feel like i don't deserve to be listened to anymore lol, but ah well. but shouldn't th's death exonerate speedchuck? speed voted for turnip and brought them and radish to a kitb.

ok i'm still gonna say my read on ted being right the whole time tho that... that was good right ;___;

If this is true then speed should be town for the same reason @Sloonei discussed about ted above, yes? Did speed put TH in a tie situation at a time that mattered?

speed voted for turnip right at or close to eod. perhaps i'm misremembering though

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:47 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:44 pm wow, sucks to be wrong about turnip there in the end. i got charmed by the "idk what I'm doing thing"

If you're town it doesn't suck to see a red flip. You should be glad you were wrong.

i mean i'm glad a wolf is gone but i have low self-confidence so being that wrong about someone burns me personally

i feel like i don't deserve to be listened to anymore lol, but ah well. but shouldn't th's death exonerate speedchuck? speed voted for turnip and brought them and radish to a kitb.

ok i'm still gonna say my read on ted being right the whole time tho that... that was good right ;___;

wow, sucks to be wrong about turnip there in the end. i got charmed by the "idk what I'm doing thing"

gl

now I'm for real out

I advise you guys to vote radish. turnip has been utr but appears to be a lost town moreso than a wolf

radish is trying to project town but there's something calculated about his pushes and his votes. I think that's more likely to be a hit

mikey is right. wagons should consider claiming right before eod

I'm at work. Can't play rn

voted radish

well... godspeed town

you said you were going to change it

so in the midst of your isos, any good leads?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:07 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:56 pm you ever gonna change your vote radishes?

Does it bother you?

yeah 'cause even you don't like it and by not placing a real vote you're not contributing to the vc

it's like you're withholding your voice when it matters

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:01 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:56 pm you ever gonna change your vote radishes?

why am i met with so much resistance when it comes to voting tsp?

I mean. He explained the townread on TSP.

oh i don't just mean radishes

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:38 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:08 am

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:55 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:50 am Actually TSP doesn't have a single read on me in his ISO that is accompanied by reasons.

Does he have reasons for anyone else?

he had some reasons for suspecting me but it didn't warrant his voting me yesterday

i think he's scummy do you think he's scummy?

you're really hung up on this vote

I mean additionally of all the people I've voted for this game I've given the most sustained reasoning for why I suspected for you and then voted for you. You just reread and you saw I was expressing suspicion of you early day one and I kept it. If you expect me to have detailed reasoning each time I want to vote someone early in the day, you're going to be sorely disappointed.

this ain't about early day stuff it's about your reads changing without explanation while they coincidentally mesh with the game state

also what is that speedchuck read

what is that

you ever gonna change your vote radishes?

why am i met with so much resistance when it comes to voting tsp?

alright i'll join ya

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:50 am Actually TSP doesn't have a single read on me in his ISO that is accompanied by reasons.

Does he have reasons for anyone else?

he had some reasons for suspecting me but it didn't warrant his voting me yesterday

i think he's scummy do you think he's scummy?

naaah i'm really done this time. got a vote parked on radishes.

i'm done with day 1 now. radish really needs a good grilling, lc is town, i don't support a turnip lynch, speed's reactive posts are very natural and imo give him town points

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this would be good, but idk if it's genuine since he stated his intentions when making the vote. that means it ain't a real pressure vote yeah?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:24 pm Hmm. What happens if I push this button?

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

this isn't good because it shows that he has no real suspicions, but then again he also said that in his next post.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:57 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:56 pm ok speeds here.

if not th then which person would you also wanna see die? I dont disagree with your th analysis but the wagon coming out of nowhere along with your sudden endorsement of it is sketchy

If not TH...

I'm not entirely against LC dying, but he looks better to me now that he's been at it longer. Dragomir's not a bad option, neither is Epi or TSP. Leetic... I'm not sure why the thread turned on him after he was most towny in the first few pages. I read sloonei's reasons, but I just haven't read closely enough to catch that I guess.

speed sees that dragomir strongly suspects him and yet he prods dragomir for a vote. townie

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:58 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:56 pm Its gonna be hard for me to participate in these remaining hours. I'm quite busy right now so EoD activity is a no go from my side.

My reads right now still have LC as scum but it's not as strong as before. Leetic has creeped up in my scum reads, but it's not very strong either. My reasons don't felt good enough to support a vote on him and I have had a couple mindmelds with him. His defense against my recent accusations were just as well.

Speedchuck is probably my strongest scum read atm doubt that's not saying much as it's still kinda weak, just barely above the other two. I don't think I'll be voting anybody for this phase.

My town reads, on the other hand, are quite strong. max, Sloonei, and FG are the highest; all three equal with each other. Turnip Head, TS, Ted, and Epi follow behind.

Radish and TSP are my remaining null reads.

You've got this nailed down to a POE of 5 on D1 and you aren't comfortable voting?

radish casting doubt in dragomir. i guess i should note this

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:02 pm Sloonei, you sure Drago is your strongest town read...?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:04 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:03 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:02 pm Sloonei, you sure Drago is your strongest town read...?

I am. Why?

His most recent post was...very noncommittal.

it's important to note here that when my wagon was at L-2, turnip chose to keep his vote on ts account. while this could look like posturing, it demonstrably isn't.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:14 pm I think funnygurl has too much town cred compared to her contributions. I can tone-read her as town but I wouldn't bet the farm on it. Her defense of tedextr doesn't come across as completely genuine to me, either

i think this post is really good from th. it's the most effort i've seen them put in all phase, for one. also, they're defending a wagon that ended up being town. sure that could be faked but still good

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:29 pm I dug into leetic's ISO. He's got a good vibe to start with and his points don't seem underhanded or opportunistic, but that vibe sort of deteriorates as the day goes on, which could be a reaction to him getting votes. At one point he makes a point-for-point attack on ted which I found to be a little extra but I generally like the case.

He also made a really interesting point that got lost in the early game:

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:13 am

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:57 am

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:06 am
Y'know, this post is a bit weird. Mikey is calling out Sloonei for setup speculation, yet when you look at the first paragraph, that's exactly what he's doing here

Care to explain?

I would like to know from you. Are you worried about me pocketing you?

Mikey's behavior is weird, last game when he was town he wasn't going after the people doing setup speculation despite the fact that there was a lot going on. And what's with this business about pocketing, like of course I'm not going to discount the possibility of someone being scum just because they townread me. Now I'm voting Mikey for this reason.

This exchange looks sketchy on Mikey tbh

I came out of leetic's ISO feeling good about his early game and kind of questioning his vibe change later on, and I like his points about ted. I don't think I want to lynch leetic.

suggests an alternative to a leetic lynch. also good

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:31 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:22 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:14 pm I think funnygurl has too much town cred compared to her contributions. I can tone-read her as town but I wouldn't bet the farm on it. Her defense of tedextr doesn't come across as completely genuine to me, either

So what are you going to do about it?

Well ideally we lynch ted first

i'm not liking radish throwing a bunch of names around and waiting to see what sticks. but with that said it's important to see what names *are*
said. if radish is a wolf i doubt this is distancing

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:43 pm What if we all vote Speedchuck? Anyone?

so i'm at the part where lc self-voted. one of the first things he says afterwards is this.
okay yeah that self-vote is pure.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:42 pm I really don't think leetic is bad here.

interesting response by turnip head.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:50 pm I think our long con is broken, maybe we can exchange it for a newer model

i agree. th's d1 eod was good

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:53 pm This kind of defeatism always ends in a civilian lynch

kinda disappointed. hoped to see more. well, onwards