The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:20 am Michelle

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Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:18 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:13 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:11 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:22 pm @Michelle and @Dom probably should have the same read as me on this.
to search this "this" at 4 am is not actually possible, can you quote it please?
You played scum with Nutella when Jack nailed her out of the box on day 1 in the Aussie game. It should mean something to you because you know how she feels about it. Does what you know line up with how she is dealing with him here to you? Looking at before I called her out on it specifically.
Solely from vibe she puts more feeling here. There it was faked. Usually villagers emotions are stronger.
I would not lynch her today.
For analysing content I need day time reading and now I can't, i barely can stay with the eyes open.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:20 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:13 am I’m on record as being willing to kill drago as well

Dragomir wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:58 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:27 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:26 pmHoly shit.
Welcome Drago.
Hi, what's going on here? I'm not gonna read 35 pages.
@Nanook except he is not playing, what looks like scum for Drago?
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:25 am Wait how is Nanook alive?
is this a derp attempt? o.o

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:52 pm Started to Iso Mac on pc but I will have to leave it so I have to post what I picked up

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:27 pm I put all the names in Random.org and Master Radishes came up and he's already got the most votes. Universe 1 - MR - 0.
This is awful for a champion.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:33 pm Dyslexicon
Epignosis
juliets
Michelle
nutella
S~V~S

Sloonei
tedxtr
TonyStarkPrime
sprityo
Tranq
Turnip Head

ColinIsCool
Dom
Dragomir

G-Man
Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay
Master Radishes
NANOOK
sabie12
sig
speedchuck
rainbow reads. tells to Sig they are with meme purpose

bbl at this, sorry short conclusion, I am confused by Mac

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:16 pm I just noticed, Radishes didn't vote in his big counter wagon on Mac. I think is important to know Mac's alignament because of that.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:18 pm on Mac . .
i am idiot

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:20 pm Anyway I like more that wagon's composition

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:46 pm Good morning, a good one indeed ^^

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:14 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:52 pm Jack is bad. Sig is town.
Talk to me about these reads.
The primary reasons for reading Sig as scum are by virtue of knowing I am scum, which I am not and through interactions with dead scum, which I agree look bad but I think Jack and a few others look bad by this measure too.

Jack is revelling in this dichotomy and has somehow skated by again. I think he's bad and fostering this false dichotomy. If Sig is not Jack's partner then he is not Mafia, and I don't think Jack would be playing this way if his partner was up for lynch.

Sig is right about how it's strange that people who have tunneled me are now voting him. It reminds me of another game I played where the Mafia kept the primary mislynch bait alive and kept knocking off other civilians. I think that lynching Sig is being led by the other scum faction.
Is this a slip? Not his, but the other scum faction.

Sorry if someone said this already

I'm not getting much from this. Their interactions have been few, and that reflects Michelle's quiet game to this point. Her accusations of Mac don't make me feel anything. I highlighted the reason she provided for voting Mac; I don't entirely understand it. Her vote came about 5 hours prior to EOD. Eh. I'm not inclined to dissociate them.

Conclusion: Decent

You found me a decent compatibility with scum Mac?

My only problem is I didn't have time to play and read. For this I know I can be pushed and mislynched at any moment in this game.

However, I am villager and I was pushing and voting for Radishes and voted for Mac.
My short explanation for voting Mac was because I thought he may be another member of Radishes team because he avoided to self press by voting Mac who was his counter wagon. My conclusion was wrong but doesn't make me wolf.
And my play time in day 3 for finding the wagon to vote in was 22 mins until I voted and around 30 mins overall in the moment I voted - and little presence at Sod, being a potato for all the day. I let the vote parked on Mac and went to sleep. What evidence do you need for me never being scum with Mac than this?
I also looked at the wagons and I trusted more the players who voted for Mac, mostly because of the gut reads I have from what I read.
The decision to vote was genuine and I am ok with your mistrust, because I know I am innocent. My flip would prove this but I hope you don't need it and you will keep search for scum.

voted for Lurch ^^

Some wagonomics may help, I will try on pc later to think at them. On phone is a pain...

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 12:01 am There’s a bus driver, talking about vig targets is bad

good point

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:18 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:12 pm But we need it to be more than that.
@Michelle? @speedchuck?

what should I do? I was sleeping, sorry 'bout that.

Good morning, a good one indeed ^^

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:14 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:52 pm Jack is bad. Sig is town.
Talk to me about these reads.
The primary reasons for reading Sig as scum are by virtue of knowing I am scum, which I am not and through interactions with dead scum, which I agree look bad but I think Jack and a few others look bad by this measure too.

Jack is revelling in this dichotomy and has somehow skated by again. I think he's bad and fostering this false dichotomy. If Sig is not Jack's partner then he is not Mafia, and I don't think Jack would be playing this way if his partner was up for lynch.

Sig is right about how it's strange that people who have tunneled me are now voting him. It reminds me of another game I played where the Mafia kept the primary mislynch bait alive and kept knocking off other civilians. I think that lynching Sig is being led by the other scum faction.

Is this a slip? Not his, but the other scum faction.

Sorry if someone said this already

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:37 pm And the reason to vote Mac over Sig is basically game theory of that scum Sig strengthens the case on Mac and town Mac weakens the case on Sig.

No matter what Sig’s flip, we lynch Mac next.

Some Mac flips may make Sig less likely to get lynched.

Ergo, there is no reason to delay a Mac lynch whereas there is a slim chance of payoff if we give Sig another day.

If all likelihood, they are both mafia so the decision isn’t all that important.

Thanks for help Jack.

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:10 pm Do we know how ties are decided?

I hope we don't have a tie. Wether is no lynch or a RNG, this sucks.

Anyway I like more that wagon's composition

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

on Mac . .
i am idiot

Jack can you link me the case on Jack?

I just noticed, Radishes didn't vote in his big counter wagon on Mac. I think is important to know Mac's alignament because of that.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:53 am since apparently my inactivity is worrying a few people that i'm calling scum

i have like 39 essays to copy until monday

good luck ^^

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:40 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:22 pm
sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:20 pm I've had a hard time making reads this game it's such a big game and so much going on while also balancing real life things. I have a hard time keeping up sometimes and I respond when I'm able to to things that make sense to me. I think mac is going after me because I am easy to go after. I'm not a strong player early game and I know that's a weakness of mine because it takes me awhile to get into it. Also I'd like to point out that mac was town reading me and didnt have any problem with me whatsoever until I voted for him. Then all of a sudden I'm bad because I accused him.
My mind is far from made up at the moment. It would help if you could identify a few town reads that you have so far in this game.
tony because he is way more involved and trying to appear civ when he's mafia from what I've seen.
Juliets seems like she's been putting in effort and trying to figure things out.
Epi seems like his usual.
You now that you've gotten more into the swing of things.
Ted seems okay so far aside from being a little less talkative than I've seen before.
Dom seems more towny this game to me.

Sabie may have one scum mate in TRs i think

I have around 10 tabs with Syndicate on my browser on phone. I found this on one of them, pretty sure I wanted to post it at a moment. Until I can concentrate about the game, i will just repost this:

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:53 pm I think I like Sloonei, but I don't remember why now.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:55 pm Michelle: Michelle has what I would consider to be a normal post count by day 3, which makes this easier for me. Early Radishes vote, minor NAI derp, makes some reads against Colin. I think the TMI argument is questionable, but it’s something.
Day 2, after voting Radishes Day 1, votes Turnip. Doesn’t change vote. Susticious. Spends one of few posts Day 2 calling out Mac though, which has to be a good sign. Makes some posts Night 2 saying basically “oh let’s lynch bad guys who are connected to Radish maybe” which is meh. Overall, there are some good posts, but nothing I can glean much information from without better links.
Team A: Meh
Team B w/ Mac: Meh
Team B w/o Mac: Meh

Michelle, come give thoughts?

I will give thoughts tomorow morning, I have busy RL but I don't want to complain, and I have a kind of worst mood because I had a trip planned who is canceled because of Corona (plane tickets and so many dreams are now on the recicle bin).
My good posts come from my civvy heart but my lack of time makes the content insufficient. I get this

I will be back in 8-9 hours

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:33 pm
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nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:26 pm
sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:22 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:51 pm why does nutella feel off tonally
I'm not seeing any difference.

But, I'm not a huge fan of the Mac switch. Though I do feel like if they were teammates she'd not be so obvious about new opinion.

@nutella For Nutella 1.0 who were you thinking was your mafia targets? I'm assuming you were forming some thoughts there.
I don't understand the question please rephrase
"Prometheus - You can target two players each night. Your main goal is to target each of these roles: Bill Rawls, Serena van der Woodsen, Seamus Fitzroy, Architect, and Lassie. You may choose any of the found roles to die in your place. *secrets*"

Two of the player who your goal was to find are mafia members. So I was just wondering if you had any inclination of who you might have wanted to target if you had the chance.

If that makes sense? Since, at least when I'm third party, I generally focus on whatever goal I have.
Linki: I think we should pursue obvious links to Radish, but be spending most of the next phase trying to hunt the other team and preferably have one of them as a counterwagon. Usually if you eliminate one team the other doesn't inherit the kill so as long as we don't ignore them I'd say full steam on Radish peeps.

I didn't think at this, looks like a better plan.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:29 pm Also, question for everyone: What should be the game plan going forward? Should we try to lynch Radish team and follow those leads? Or should we try to find and expose the other team? Or should be do both/come what may?

I have some thoughts, but I think it's an interesting question.

We've had two GOAT lynches, and the game is still over 36 % scum. That is hilarious and sad. This is what I mean when I say big multiball games should have a multilynch option.

I think we should active searching independently scum reads, while thinking at the possible connectiom with Radishes

For the poll, i think Superman is cool ^^

[VOTE: Superman] aubergine

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:26 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:16 am How convinced is everyone that Nanook came back in green slot?
I'm letting this sit in the back of my mind. I do feel Nook's playing a bit differently, but there could be a few reasons for that. Also, despite this being my third game with him, we've not played more than, I think, 3 or 4 rounds together due to our various demises.

Subtile shade for Nanook coming from one of the scum teams looks like they were not buddies. Or being wagoned Radishes threw this post for distancing?

I saw JJJ noticed I wasn't present. Sunday and a busy monday were the reason tbh

Started to Iso Mac on pc but I will have to leave it so I have to post what I picked up

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:27 pm I put all the names in Random.org and Master Radishes came up and he's already got the most votes. Universe 1 - MR - 0.

This is awful for a champion.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:33 pm Dyslexicon
Epignosis
juliets
Michelle
nutella
S~V~S

Sloonei
tedxtr
TonyStarkPrime
sprityo
Tranq
Turnip Head

ColinIsCool
Dom
Dragomir

G-Man
Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay
Master Radishes
NANOOK
sabie12
sig
speedchuck

rainbow reads. tells to Sig they are with meme purpose

bbl at this, sorry

short conclusion, I am confused by Mac

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:26 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:16 am How convinced is everyone that Nanook came back in green slot?
I'm letting this sit in the back of my mind. I do feel Nook's playing a bit differently, but there could be a few reasons for that. Also, despite this being my third game with him, we've not played more than, I think, 3 or 4 rounds together due to our various demises.

I understand. Thanks for answering

Nanook my last question was for everyone so including you, and I spoilered the post to can be noticed. Please answer.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:16 am
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:40 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:20 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:13 am I’m on record as being willing to kill drago as well

Dragomir wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:58 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:27 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:26 pmHoly shit.
Welcome Drago.
Hi, what's going on here? I'm not gonna read 35 pages.
@Nanook except he is not playing, what looks like scum for Drago?
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:25 am Wait how is Nanook alive?
is this a derp attempt? o.o
“Except for the thing he’s doing that’s scummy, what is he doing that’s scummy?”
Maybe I misworded, but I don't like how Nanook is mocking me instead answering.
He is not showing he is pissed by an idiotic question, showing a towny displeasure for my lack of attention, he just noted how bad am I at expressing my ideas in english.
looking forward for an answer.
How convinced is everyone that Nanook came back in green slot?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:40 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:20 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:13 am I’m on record as being willing to kill drago as well

Dragomir wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:58 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:27 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:26 pmHoly shit.
Welcome Drago.
Hi, what's going on here? I'm not gonna read 35 pages.
@Nanook except he is not playing, what looks like scum for Drago?
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:25 am Wait how is Nanook alive?
is this a derp attempt? o.o
“Except for the thing he’s doing that’s scummy, what is he doing that’s scummy?”

Maybe I misworded, but I don't like how Nanook is mocking me instead answering.
He is not showing he is pissed by an idiotic question, showing a towny displeasure for my lack of attention, he just noted how bad am I at expressing my ideas in english.
How convinced is everyone that Nanook came back in green slot?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:37 amhi

Hello

Also good morning everyone. Sunday and 1st of March, a whole day ahead to find scum!

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:13 am I’m on record as being willing to kill drago as well

Dragomir wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:58 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:27 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:26 pmHoly shit.
Welcome Drago.
Hi, what's going on here? I'm not gonna read 35 pages.

@Nanook except he is not playing, what looks like scum for Drago?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:25 am Wait how is Nanook alive?

is this a derp attempt? o.o

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:42 am My soul read on michelle is that she’s either an indie or she changed her style radically for this game

multitabling is not a bless

[VOTE: Turnip head] aubergine come and explain your reads

See, Turnip shaded me but he has no vote. Like he is afraid to vote for a scum read he has, to apply pressure and find my AI like this. Scumy behavior again.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:25 am I'm gonna do a GTH post, not a rainbow. I will only comment on some and expand after work tonight (Saturday is my long, difficult day at work, so it is very unlikely I will post during the day today). Bad is kind of a default position (see: Dragomir) for "no opinion" I should have an opinion by now.

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Colin, bad, I have to reread him, but I don't remember much he has said. So bad as a default position.

Dom, civ with caveats: he can fool me, he knows it, I know it. So he makes me paranoid, but so far I see civ Dom. *IF* he is bad, I don't think he's bad with G or Jay. That "queen" thing kinda freaked me a bit, not gonna lie, but it was also sweet and totally a Dom thing to do

Drago: bad (last post asking about host posts, I don't know that anyone ever answered him. This is, like Colin, a default position, I don't know his game, and I know walking into a 30+ page thread is intimidating, but asking a question and leaving it hang seems kinda sketch to me.

Dyslexicon: bad, I have complex feels on this. She was a civ read then I shaded her down. She says and does things that feel/sound civ, but then she also is pushing low level minor shade at me and never giving me anything to work with. Early on, she, along with Radishes, asked the thread more than once, why people were town reading me. Aside from the fact that she was mirroring Radishes who I think is bad bad bad, it, along with all of her "Alas, I want to town read SVS but I am not sure why, someone else tell me what to think about this" hand wringing, it just strikes me as her wanting to find me bad. What she is doing is a play I have in my baddie book, too. Drop a crumb, see if anyone picks it up. Sowing the seeds of suspish. Disclaimer, I would feel this if she were doing it to someone else, too. Plus her Radishes suspish feels like distancing to me, tbh.

Epignosis: Civ. I am not seeing bad Epi, unless his game radically changed since I last played with him. Anyone have recent bad/civ Epi games I can look at? For me, "Bad Epi" is more obvious that "Good Epi", and I have not seen that scary person yet.

G Man: bad, I thought so for days, no change. I don't see a curse role (cursed objects is the closest thing) and doing self imposed posting gimmicks is a G Man thing, it is known. Not buying it. This is probably my first vote today unless I convince myself otherwise later in this post.

Jack: light civ; I thought he was bad bad until he backpedalled on nutella, I see no reason for him to have done that if he was bad. Before that he was close to the top of my bad list, though, so

Jay: civ, I feel like I do on Epi here, he seems civ to me, using my Jay barometer, but the barometer may need calibration.

Juliets: Jules is a civ, fight me if you don't agree.

MacDougall: bad, his play on the nutella lynch felt bad to me, and he has not returned since then. How he spins that situation will aim how I slot him. This is his last post (I am generally not posting posts in this post, but this one kinda counterpoints my thoughts on Dsy, so, breaking my own rules! I'm a rebel!)

It's from Day one, no reaction to the nutella lynch as of yet. Macdougall, come and tellme how you feel about how Day One ended.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:33 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:31 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:20 pm I don't know why I feel resistance to read S-V-S as town. Cause she probably very well could be.
Good read
What? This is a terrible read. What does it even mean?
Master Radishes: He's bad, he's bad. You know it, he's bad.

[VOTE: Master Badishes] aubergine
Michelle: civ but could flip to bad, she gave me good feels early on, and I have seen nothing to change it, and therein lies the problem. I need moar Michelle. Gimme that content.

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Nanook: civ, I though Nanook 1 was bad, not gonna lie. I reacted to him not unlike how I reacted to Chuck defending supabad LC in that other game. The way he came into his second life made me see commonality between his games so far, I liked him going right on the attack. I think if he were bad he would have pulled his punches a bit.

S~V~S: She is as civ as they come

sabie: bad, she seems a bit wishy washy so far, but I remember thinking she was bad in the past for that, and she wasn't. Putting bad as a default position.

sig; town, one of my civvier reads. I would actively fight a sigwagon.

Sloonei: civ, of the big three (Jay, Epi, Sloonei) I feel most confident in his civness. In their case I defeulted to civ not so much becasue I have seen their civ game as I haven't seen their bad. With Sloonei, I think I have seen both.

speedchuck: bad, this is more of a default position, I have not seen anything to think he is good, but then I am not a speedchuck reader. He is on my list for a reread tonight.

sprit: bad, I read him yesterday and it was meh. He is the opposite of nutella and epi for me, he has a bit of a mean feel for me when he is civ, maybe mean is the wrong word, maybe "biting"is better. Not gonna lie, I blew him up a few years ago and I try to avoid him since then. He says he is going home, maybe he will have more time. He has not said much topical so far.

tedxtr: civ, I like the cut of his jib so far. I like how he explains himself. He's higher on the list for me.

TonyStarkPrime: civ, I reread him yesterday, and expected to think him bad, but I like his posts, they are consice but get his point across, and I found nothing iffy or opportunistic feeling.

Tranq: civ, someone had said civ Tranq doesn't post much and that is true. Tranq with a chatroom banters more in thread. Tranq is like Dom, though, in that it is easy for him to charm me. Some of his opinions, when he started posting them, surprised me, like his thoughts on TH (see below). Tranq, TH and I all come from the same figurative home town, and I was surprised to see that read on TH.

Turnip Head: civ, this is my waffliest read, town TH can be a mad oracle, but like the words of most oracles, it requires interpretation. I *think* I am interpreting him in the correct way but I would like to see more words, plz, K, TH?

And I gotta go take a shower gonna post this without further ado.

I will do my best. I like this post of yours, it's full of thoughts, looks real.
Just by reading it (keep in mind I didn't read all the thread but reading you civ I take all like from villagery mindset), I have these ideas:
- I don't think I'd read Turnip villager in this game, but maybe is from lack of meta?
- Ted and Sig villas for me too.
- Jack backtracking on Nut is nagl for me. Jack is a too stubborn fellow for that to be always a towny move for him.
- Colin bad agree, Drago bad I need to check.
- Sabie and Dizzy don't look so bad for me.

bbl, I am working today

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:32 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:49 am I don't care much about hearing your response to any of these points, Master Radishes, if that would be your inclination.
A lot of it is too subjective to respond to anyway. I'm not going to waste my time trying to un-tunnel you.

But two things:

-Since I never did follow it up, the nutella thing was based on her opening post. I liked her early tone, so did a quick spot-check ISO to confirm if I did, and her opening post felt like she was trying to match the casual tone of a townie with nothing to worry about. But that's such a weak read for N0 that I wanted to wait and see how things developed. That's not scummy - that's how N0 goes.
I would definitely have voted her over Jack, not to mention over me, but I don't vote in self-defence unless I have to because I prefer to still try to, you know, play the game first.

-I don't think it's fair to be deemed scum for being 'listless' on N0/D1 when I'm playing on what is still a new forum to me with a bunch of people I barely/don't know. I'm not an Eva who bulldozes in to any game. This is a poor indicator of scum, IMO, unless it's based on meta, and you don't have that on me.

suddenly I want to know what Radishes will make regarding the cyan coloured part. Looks interesting

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:21 pm I've combed her iso and made a post linking her to potential teammate distancing techniques. She is maneuvering with a sketchy finesse, imo.

associative fake reads without any red flip.

My plan B: play like shit and expect shades from wolves.

Is working?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:18 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:14 pm
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:12 pm My blacklist in order of lynching priority:

Michelle
Colin
Master Radishes
Sprityo
Sloonei
Why these bottom two names?
Vibes

explain with quotes for everyone [mention]Turnip Head[/mention]

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:40 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:27 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:53 pm I think I like Sloonei, but I don't remember why now.
maybe you can dig in memories?
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:53 pm This is two posts from SVS now that have felt like they could be written by a scum. Not that they are, just that they could be.
I certainly don't have a mindmeld with Radishes this game
Possible teammate distancing?

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:43 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:09 am
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:08 am I am here, will catch up and post thoughts later today.
Uh, “champion”!
Going at Iso links and choosing the first.
Strange how he looks non interested in this game
More possible distancing?

too much of a stretch. Just sayin'

Btw this poll is not for me as well.

Google shows that Dan Humphrey looks good. I agree with who voted Blair too.
That without any knowledge about the characters and scenario. I could equally RNG the poll but searching was funnier ^^

Morning!
First thing is that posts I've read from Epi quoted or direct posted are rubbing me the wrong way. (I don't want to dive into the Colinis short Iso without saying this)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:10 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:13 pm The Michelle post I quoted earlier bugged me out, I’m not sure what it meant/if it makes any sense.
I have a thing to say, but I'll let @Michelle have at it first. Colin being bugged out

Well, first was to google what bugged out means and I don't think I get it

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From what I read in the whole post he said he didn't understand my post and that is concerning because I usually post plain and simple. Horrible as grammar and phrasing maybe

but usually understandable.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:13 pm Although before I caught up I misinterpreted nutella as scum and read the thread as such, so some of my thoughts are useless.

I feel best about sig, his NANOOK suspicion and case felt really genuine. I also really like just about everything I’ve seen from ted. I like Jay so far, and Epi.

The Michelle post I quoted earlier bugged me out, I’m not sure what it meant/if it makes any sense. I agree with Epi’s concerne toward juliets.

Radishes isn’t giving me the same exact vibe as he did when I sniffed him out as 3P in Inception, but it’s similar ...

I'd put Colinis in scum pile for unexplained TMIstic reads i've coloured in cyan and maybe the mention of Epi as the last, when Epi is usually a wild town force no matter how many posts he has. I think this post looks the worst for Colinis.

Colinis says he sniffed out Radishes in the start of Inception game and this may be true but I won't go dig for it. Is this game we have to search if the guy is scum and the simple fact he was counterwagon to a harmless 3rd part who could be a town mislynch easy makes me want to reread Radishes' posts.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:51 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 11:54 pm juliets bothers me.

She has 18 total posts. Very few of those posts are interactive questions. Rather, she's done two investigative style posts, one on Jack and half a one on nutella.

That is unnerving, because I'm used to seeing an engaged civilian juliets peppering people with questions and trying to piece things together. All of this feels like busy work. Even the conclusion on Jack is a weasel:

"Jack is very good at being scum. I need to think about and/or get feedback about my points above or other points about Jack but he is a possibility for my vote today."
Good post here, something was bothering me about juliets up to this point and I couldn’t put my finger on it but Epi did.

Epi's concern towards Jules is a shade imo.
So Colinis agrees with Epi in a wolfy way. I don't know if Epi is scum, maybe I just disliked the posts, but I can see Colinis being scum

ok @Sig got it thanks for the infos. bbl

plan for the rest of night is to Iso Radishes, Jack and to read as much as I can and share my ideas and feelings.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:05 pm Wait, it's Night but we're posting? Is that a thing here?

I found this as a town help and hard to face when i was scum. Because sharing ideas itt instead using a notebook and interacting overnight is strenghtening town's bonds.

I will come back in my morning, in 5-6 hours

Idk what happened with the hour of the poll I thought is in my hour but it's not so I missed the Eod.
I am sad for this lynch. Nutella had few votes when I last checked but I can't remember more than Jack tunneling her.

At work I will search for the votes itt, this is impossible on phone

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:35 pm Gonna start on my Meh ISO's. Michelle is first, I'll probably be spoiling everything to make it more readable.

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Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:04 am
Vanilla

5

31% Voters: speedchuck, Jackofhearts2005, TonyStarkPrime, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, sprityo
The amount of vanilla lovers is concerning. Scum hides there mark my words.

Glad to play with everyone btw <3

Sould reading in page 1Tedex villager. Liked Nut - not a surprise ^^
Still reading to catch up. Work may stop this process

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:42 am
G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:48 pm Okay, let’s do this! The secret portion of my role card says that I am the champion of this game. Sorry to cut this game so short, especially after all that time waiting through sign-ups, but I win. You can go home now.
not so fast champion, we still have to discuss things through
tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:00 am Sloonei town

TSP town

Epi scum

Catch y’all later
i see this as a towny post
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:05 am I forget how to play this game.
:doubt:

Catched up. Some flavours mentioned including the radish ice cream will not met my expectations.

I like these two posts, mainly since she's expressing the same thoughts I am.

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Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:01 am Some page 5 thoughts

JJJ acts close to that game where he was villager and let himslef lynched with a wrong Poe. He kind of pressures everyone. For scum to be that is too annoying and he may get lynched just because. I don't see this as a scum safe play now, JJJ may be villager, a little too paranoid one.

Idk why is Sig upset about candy given like town reads http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 93#p586093 but in post 243 he explains his thoughts in a pretty villagery way.

Sloonei has a solid logic in his posts which feels good.

Not sure I agree with jay read, but meta seems right.

I stand by my Candy thing, but that's a playstyle issue.

No opinion on Sloonie right now, but I think it's a genuine read from Michelle.

What I'm really noticing here is Michelle is playing it safe, being active and giving out some civ reads with room to switch but not really poking people.

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Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:27 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:49 pm Sloonei and dizzy both have high mafia equity, but low teammate equity, thus killing one will tell us more about the other as they’re in a non-mechanical 1v1 dipole.

That’s my quota of Serious Mafia Terms for the day, you’re welcome.
sounds spicy at the first read
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:55 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:49 pm Sloonei and dizzy both have high mafia equity, but low teammate equity, thus killing one will tell us more about the other as they’re in a non-mechanical 1v1 dipole.

That’s my quota of Serious Mafia Terms for the day, you’re welcome.
This post suggests that nanook is unaware there are two mafia teams.
Is quite interesting Sloonei didn't infirm the accusation
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:00 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:55 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:49 pm Sloonei and dizzy both have high mafia equity, but low teammate equity, thus killing one will tell us more about the other as they’re in a non-mechanical 1v1 dipole.

That’s my quota of Serious Mafia Terms for the day, you’re welcome.
This post suggests that nanook is unaware there are two mafia teams.
This post suggests that Nanook is spewing nonsense.
the post was presented as serious

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:53 pm I think I like Sloonei, but I don't remember why now.
maybe you can dig in memories?
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:53 pm This is two posts from SVS now that have felt like they could be written by a scum. Not that they are, just that they could be.
I certainly don't have a mindmeld with Radishes this game

This entire post reads blendy/trying to get some town cred, without saying much.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:39 pm [VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

He left the game long ago and didn't give me the villagery feeling he had in the inception game. I know he was 3rd part, but an independent can have towny posts easier than mafia.
A weaker reason to vote, but it's D1. The main thing that's off here is she says he left game long ago, so an activity issue. However, Michelle isn't posting much so seems strange to cite that as a reason.

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Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:18 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:13 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:11 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:22 pm @Michelle and @Dom probably should have the same read as me on this.
to search this "this" at 4 am is not actually possible, can you quote it please?
You played scum with Nutella when Jack nailed her out of the box on day 1 in the Aussie game. It should mean something to you because you know how she feels about it. Does what you know line up with how she is dealing with him here to you? Looking at before I called her out on it specifically.
Solely from vibe she puts more feeling here. There it was faked. Usually villagers emotions are stronger.
I would not lynch her today.
For analysing content I need day time reading and now I can't, i barely can stay with the eyes open.

If nutella winds up being mafia I could see them being teammates or vice verse, but face value not bad.

SO Overall Michelle's ISO didn't give me much to go off of. What I did notice is a lack of solid reads/positions and a failure to give any potential baddie reads. I do dislike this since it gives her room to maneuver around and switch opinions.

I'd say Michelle is a Mafia-Lean right now and would like to see some more reads from her.

@Michelle Can you give me a run down of your reads? What you currently think of Radish and Jack and who you'd vote for besides Radish?

No I can't I was busy with RL, everyone is hysterical because of the corona virus and I kept procrastinating all day in everything I did. So I didn't even read the thread more than 20%.

I fell asleep at 9:30 pm and i woke up recently. I will be here for a short amount of time.

You accusing me of playing safe looks like a real thought. But is more a play with what I read and could comment on because my play time is shorter than ever. If this makes me scum in your eyes, you can do what you like.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:56 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:33 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:31 pm Don’t we have 24 hours? It’s Wednesday.
you are right. see you later.
You may post any case and @ me with it please
40 % a derp?

nah.. 100% me being idiot

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:31 pm Don’t we have 24 hours? It’s Wednesday.

you are right. see you later.
You may post any case and @ me with it please

Can you not kill my eyes with gifs Jack? ffs spoiler them please

About words, your mindset as villager mislynched me and since that happened I don't trust your reads and oppinion except I am convinced you are right.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:21 pm I’m going to spend some time on not Nutella but I’ll get back to ya’ll on some previous examples of bullshit pedantic defenses from wolfNutella in previous games.

Are you going to check other games when Eod is so close?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:13 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:11 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:22 pm @Michelle and @Dom probably should have the same read as me on this.
to search this "this" at 4 am is not actually possible, can you quote it please?
You played scum with Nutella when Jack nailed her out of the box on day 1 in the Aussie game. It should mean something to you because you know how she feels about it. Does what you know line up with how she is dealing with him here to you? Looking at before I called her out on it specifically.

Solely from vibe she puts more feeling here. There it was faked. Usually villagers emotions are stronger.
I would not lynch her today.
For analysing content I need day time reading and now I can't, i barely can stay with the eyes open.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:22 pm @Michelle and @Dom probably should have the same read as me on this.

to search this "this" at 4 am is not actually possible, can you quote it please?

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:09 am
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:08 am I am here, will catch up and post thoughts later today.
Uh, “champion”!

Going at Iso links and choosing the first.
Strange how he looks non interested in this game

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

He left the game long ago and didn't give me the villagery feeling he had in the inception game. I know he was 3rd part, but an independent can have towny posts easier than mafia.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:17 pmJack is town

Since I was scum and him villager I noticed Sloonei's way to confident clear someone. Of course I tryied to shade him in that game because of this

without big succes, btw.
This game he posted this sentence for 2 more players (i need to Iso because I don't remember for whom).
This is enough now for me to TR Sloonei, scum would not be so sure.

Also my read on Jack is similar.

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 11:36 am
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S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:37 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:09 am
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:56 pm "im jack and ive never been wrong about nutella before so i have to put a maybe she's town in there to cover my ass"

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:57 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:56 pm Specifically, Nutella is showing waffles, wim and opportunism.

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine
are you like, reading from a clipboard? seriously what is this?

what have you done with jack??

would you actually be this obvious tho??

[VOTE: jack] aubergine
the first one into the second one is crucial for the next point

the amount of doubt she's presenting, yet still voting for Jack is scummy. feels like a really fake engagement and i read it as parroting of what nanook was doing with sig. it doesn't read as natural as nanook's frustration with sig.

she doesn't even know what she's being voted for and she starts the questioning only after placing a vote

ew

it reads really fake and staged up, the moment nutella points something that i actually am not seeing from jack and then instantly voting him the next post is bad.

The dark forces need to be brought down
As someone who has been playing with nutella for over 10 years (with some hiatuses [hiatii?]) I don't think she sounds fake. I think considering the back and forth Jack and she have had in many games, her thoughts on him sound pretty genuine.

But what I DO find yucky is this post:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:03 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:06 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:57 am Still waiting for those hot takes
We should lynch jack so he can go play the mountain of video games he needs to finish
No joke. Made a bunch of progress on my dwarf campaign in Total Warhammer yesterday.

Unfortunately, I’m unlynchable and obvious town so I’m not going anywhere until a mafia says so.
Per the rules,

10. Character claiming, roleclaiming and infodumping are illegal. You may say whatever you like in BTSC.

Plus this just reads like the classic baddie "valuable civvie" ploy (it used to have a spiffy name, but I forget what it was). "If you try to lynch me, you will be sorry." More than anything else you have said, this post makes me think you're bad, and you weren't King of my Shining Civvie Hill before this post.

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine for now, it may change, but this post is like a "HI! I'M BADDIE McBADDERSON" nametag in my eyes.

To be fair I think jack always claims he unlynchable every game

This is true, he looks confident lately that he will not be mislynched. I started to look at this in a positive way, actually I wondered when he will start to post it.

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