The Syndicate

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:18 am Megaman and Ancient Greece for sure

isn't OJ closed site?-_-

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:53 pm

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Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:48 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:37 pm Your calm and measure attitude has been kind of giving me the heebie jeebies. It reminds me of The Boys game a little bit when you were scum, especially the way you've been second guessing lynches in a weird fear-mongering way. Instances on both ISOs are very similar. It also kind of sells a gentle and innocent tone that I've been letting you coast on in my head.

On top of being in a new game with new people, and this is the first time that info dumping, no role revealing/claims are allowed which is usually my forte, I'm incredibly unsure.

I can never read you Nova. Your posts seem genuine, it feels like you're scum hunting + tunnel people which is what I'm used to with Town Nova. You are incredibly clean after I read through your posts minus the "switch target with me in case Dom is Pitbull"

But at the same time, I also cannot shake off this gut feeling that you possibly bussed Rej, have people town read you all game so you lie pretty low, and kept me alive.

I've never played with Michelle before. I don't know if her game plan was to completely partner with Rej, tried to go on the LC train to save her buddy, and it didn't work because they didn't grab enough people.

I get having a tinfoil but I promise you I'm town. My town play is always obvious that's why people don't suspect me, especially when I'm not inactive or disengaged. Mac had the same tinfoil last phase and then he read my iso and saw that it's not bussing 'cause it doesn't make sense.

self meta is not convincing me. I need proof by games linked here.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:53 pm
I got the dude lynched and started the game going after him 'cause I genuinely read him as scum, simple as that. And I remember D1 when LC wagon was forming and Jay questioning LC as a viable candidate, I was trying to defend him Also lol at the tunnel, yep that's my town self. It's why I've been going after Dom, sometimes I'm wrong sometimes I'm right.

Wow. You read him as scum and Long Con as town and this cannot be TMI from you.

you said

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:23 am We had already talked about it before you went to sleep, so it's not really something to catch up on.

- i am affraid is not relevant for me, this is self meta and potential TMI.

Nova, I started to doubt my first read since that post. I will not continue to talk im that spoiler.
You dog claimed!
Cool, I have to explain to the last dog why am I innocent and to find the liar between two folks who are saying they're both dogs.

On a side note, Nova, how many games you are alive in lylo between the last 3 standing? Can you link me such game? I want to see if this is your usual approach for this day.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:58 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:50 am Question for Nova, you sent me to search Long Con's posts and you are looking into Epi's Iso.
Instead searching what townies had to say isn't more accurate to scumhunt by rereading the Iso of flipped mafia? Just saying.

I've been doing that as well, especially the interactions between flipped Mafia and both of you. What townies have to say is important to get a feel for everything again, also since Epi was killed.

I sent you to search Long Con's posts so that you can substantiate your thoughts on your own naturally, I wanted to see what you found genuine and why. So that I can figure you out and get a better read on you.

I see it diferently. A townie would let me read and wait for my answer. I already said i want to read and catch up and you with that search request broke the flow of my thoughts.
My feeling are going into the idea you are searching the best narrative to win as the last cat.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:53 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:40 am These posts came into my head as genuine. Scum would be more explanatory from what i know.

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Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:11 pm I don't think I tend to put a lot of energy into *seeming* Civilian.

this is a mindmelt with my playstyle. I don't post to look villagery. He said it before, i know, but saying it again was a good thing for me

Yeah that's one of the reasons I townread him, I remember mentioned it to you but you said that everything I like him for, you dislike him for. Why was that?


i had the logic (prooved wrong) that the counterwagon was for mafia. This happened in that day but i reconsidered it.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:49 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:05 pm Worthy of thought.

Rej lynched by a single vote on day 1.

Flipped wolf on his wagon.

Why did Speedchuck not just vote for LC?

It looks like speedchuck was gone from the thread before the LC thing really became viable.

The logic here was good and the wording as simple as it is was made me thinking I was wrong about him.

What do you mean?


I liked the post and I thought i could be wrong about LC

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:25 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:08 pm I'm feeling it's LC.

It's not me, nut.

Again, as scum he would add a lot of reasons. He is slightly pockety by calling Nutella 'nut' but as scum the pocketing would be different.

Hmm sure, I can see that.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:25 pm Fayt has not posted at all in Day 3. Silenced?

This post is interesting.
Before i go searching, is true i think, why don't you have posts d3 Fayt?

My posts are in green inside the spoiler.

answered in brown inside the spoiler. I thought green is for out of game communications. I don't like the use of the green to give the town impression for yourself. this is like a subliminal commercial tbh.

Question for Nova, you sent me to search Long Con's posts and you are looking into Epi's Iso.
Instead searching what townies had to say isn't more accurate to scumhunt by rereading the Iso of flipped mafia? Just saying.

These posts came into my head as genuine. Scum would be more explanatory from what i know.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:25 pm Fayt has not posted at all in Day 3. Silenced?

This post is interesting.
Before i go searching, is true i think, why don't you have posts d3 Fayt?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:08 am Reading up on Epi's ISO, he had beef there and it might be the reason behind the drowngrade

What and who's downgrade?
i would appreciate if you make sentences like i am 5 y o because i have posts i understand nothing from you. Thanks.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:05 am Hit me up with the quotes when you settle down. I want to see what happened there.

working on it. without a multiquote button is pretty hard to copy paste on notebook -_-

Fayt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:45 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:44 am

Fayt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:42 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:38 am Morning

Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:48 pm

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Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:35 pm

Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:32 pm Oh I thought you were trying to make me claim

nope, i would never do this. We can't claim anyway iirc. I wanted to see of you know the answer.

Was there a reason for this?

Yes. I will reveal it. It's just an idea who may support my decision. But you didn't answer. Can you tell me why?

I mistakened it, I thought you wanted me to claim but since Nova already answered, I didn't think I need to. Pit bull and Collie.

You knew that or not when i asked?

I did yeah. I know of my role and the last dog role.

thanks. I will start rererad and catch up what you posted overnight.

What made you going stright after Nova at SoD?

Fayt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:42 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:38 am Morning

Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:48 pm

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Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:35 pm

Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:32 pm Oh I thought you were trying to make me claim

nope, i would never do this. We can't claim anyway iirc. I wanted to see of you know the answer.

Was there a reason for this?

Yes. I will reveal it. It's just an idea who may support my decision. But you didn't answer. Can you tell me why?

I mistakened it, I thought you wanted me to claim but since Nova already answered, I didn't think I need to. Pit bull and Collie.

You knew that or not when i asked?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:34 am It's getting late over here

go to sleep we can talk when you wake up

Well... i have a problem reading your walls in the previous page. I am always on mobile and i often use spoilers to can read easier.
Fayt said her mobile is at 5% but she doesn't bother to use spoilers instead scrolling so much :/

Morning

Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:48 pm

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Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:35 pm

Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:32 pm Oh I thought you were trying to make me claim

nope, i would never do this. We can't claim anyway iirc. I wanted to see of you know the answer.

Was there a reason for this?

Yes. I will reveal it. It's just an idea who may support my decision. But you didn't answer. Can you tell me why?

good night

Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:32 pm Oh I thought you were trying to make me claim

nope, i would never do this. We can't claim anyway iirc. I wanted to see of you know the answer.

Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:27 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:14 pm

Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:09 pm It was Nova all along... he cruised by while town was towning each other and went under the radar. I don't know if you'll believe me Michelle but he set up so many things to get to this point.

Do you know who the last two dogs alive are?

I'm Dog. I don't know about you or Nova but I believe you more than Nova at this point.

I could be wrong though :/ Maybe you're the one fooling me but the only one I know is myself.

i was talking about the dog breeds still alive. Sorry my thoughts are hard to put in english at this hour.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:20 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:17 pm Nova, i had to trust someone , and LCs words felt honest. I am playing by feeling and logic. Now i have a logic and i want to post it.

Give me some quotes of that time.

i can't man is midnight, i barely see. That's why i said i will play in the morning

Nova, i had to trust someone , and LCs words felt honest. I am playing by feeling and logic. Now i have a logic and i want to post it.

Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:09 pm It was Nova all along... he cruised by while town was towning each other and went under the radar. I don't know if you'll believe me Michelle but he set up so many things to get to this point.

Do you know who the last two dogs alive are?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:54 pm Kind of stopped getting those vibes later on, especially with D3 and how she was handling Jay. Felt like she was talking herself into voting him and beating around the bush with questions about his PoE. Cooled off D4 and later on

Yes I have a playstyle with errors.
Villagers can make mistakes and also they can find each other in lylo.
From what you posted until now you didn't make up your mind isn't it?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:42 pm

thank you sir

When I saw Drago and Nutella flipping dogs i knew that the night kill will be the only confirmed from us.

Is midnight at me, i will start reread and post in the morning. And my day will be short because i'll go to the theatre at 8 pm so i will miss end of day most probably.

I want to interact directly with both of you, Fayt was Jay's suspect and survived that day lynch and Nova, who was never suspected during the game.
I am lost. None of you knows me, playing previously with Nova doesn't help too much.

I am a dog, if my word counts, alas in mafia doesnt, and I am lock villager in my eyes. I didn't have am agenda so when i suspected Long Con and i realised he may be dog i gave up and searched the last cat elsewhere.
I am also villager because i was an idiot in day 1 defending the obvious mafia (i know if at least i would read Rej's posts i would notice that something is off). I would not openly defend him like that, i would vote the same but with other words. My posts back then shows i had no idea my friend Rej is mafia.
And when Dragomir had his case on Epi even if i disliked Epi's posts i found him not cattish and didn't go in that direction.
I was wrong about Jay and that pissed me enougj to blind me and start to suspect Dragomir very much.
I voted yesterday with the conviction he will flip mafia.
He posted honest and i was again an idiot.

This is all from the top of my head, and unfortunately I need to sleep rn :/

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:04 am I hate how you guys throw away your correct tone reads to make a logical case for whatever reason.

sometimes logic is the last weapon

Firstly though this need at least few ideas:

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:17 pm So here is why Michelle is bad.

1. Her reads and "pushes" have been her just piggybacking off of others. She was just a supporting role, never a force in the decision of a wagon being created and all of her scum reads only arrived after others have suspected the said player. Thus the supporting role she has been. The only I guess original, if that, was the Fayt vote. http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 70#p556470 this was based on pure bullshit. Just pure bs. I can't count this. It's still a supporting role push cause it only came after LC taked about Fayt being a potential cat.

TMIying Fayt villager rn?
Also what supportive role means in mafia? What crime brings approving a read?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:17 pm
2. She tries to cover up her siding with Rej as pocketing when there was no such thing. Rej only mentioned her like twice and that was to ask for thoughts. The only thing else was that gth "ok" read he gave to her and multiple other players. You cannot tell me you'd be pocketed cause of this. Here, read. http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 85#p554985 http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 63#p555063 I don't buy it. Especially the last one, no reads of her own, just sides with Rej cause she town reads him. Shit, if that doesn't sound like 2 scum buddies trying to help each other, I don't know what does.

The only post i've read before defending Rej was Rej's post because he pinged me.
Pocketing has many levels. A ping is pockety by itself.
You don't buy it? I didn't sell anything.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:17 pm
3. Her progression of reads on me is asinine. I know this sounds like omgus. I don't care. The progression was scummy. So I will use it against her. She went from a hard town read on me http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 21#p556021 to scum reading me. Yes, I know that reads can change but for her, there was just no progression in it. It was sudden. This also supports the supporting role theory I have on her as she's just been supporting the notion of me being scum. If half the players in this game didn't sus me last DP, she wouldn't either. I guarantee it.

Now, this is my case. Make of it what you will.

My read on you was based on tone and feeling. Now i see you are pushed flipped villagers and have a Fayt dog TMI read. Maybe my feelings are off but my logic is solid.

[VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine i have to go to work.

I will be back in 8 hours and deff be here at Eod

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:14 pm I honestly cannot see where there was a plan to vig Fayt specifically documented. I can see where the plan was to lynch Fayt and vig Jay, but given Jay got lynched the only existence of a "lynch Fayt" plan is in the undertone of the aforementioned plan. Speaking as though there was a clear and decided plan for the vig to vig Fayt is bad faith imo.

And this is the only post anywhere near the EOD that references any kind of vig directive.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:43 pm If the lynch is JJJ and he flips villager the vig shoudl hit the one who he feels best to flip mafia, he already did a very good job.

As an aside it's interesting that Michelle is referring to the vig as a "he" is it not? Given that Nutella and Fayt are both females are were in the game, is this not revealing that Michelle actually knows who the vig is *cough* because rolecop *cough*?

unfortunately no, idk that info, for me is tricky because in my language words have gender modifiers. Vigilante is male by default.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:54 pm Alright SCAMPS.

Let's go through the actual motions here instead of the dumb ones. Let's start with GTH.

@Fayt @Dragomir @novaselinenever @nutella @Michelle

Be here in exactly 36 minutes.

3 am is not my fav hour. sorry

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:44 pm @Michelle What happened to your suspicion of Fayt?

I need some time to reread.
I came itt late and I see Drago is too vocal into ML me. I read your opinion about him being more town than scum. I see him more scum because he pushed convincingly Long Con and Epi, 2 flipped townies before. Any good wolf can make cases tbh.
Rethinking everything is a good movement rn.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:28 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:44 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:40 pm Michelle or Fayt. Hmm.

haha this is hilarious. We both helped you survive yesterday ans now you find us scum? Are we playing the same game?

You know who else helped me survive? Nova and Nutella. You know who's left in the game? Mac, Nutella, you, Fayt, Nova. You know who's confirmed town? Mac? Who the fuck am I supposed to suspect? Myself? Don't bitch about something irrelevant.

You know what? I don't remeber to ever talk to you on that tone. It's rude. If you are town is meaningless because in the game is one scum left and you have no proof of me being scum, if you are scum it wakes up the dog sleeping inside me. There is no way i'll let you today mislynch me because you discovered a new agenda.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:35 pm It's freaking Michelle.

you are a freaking huge meowning cat.
I know how fabricated your case is.
I will answer at that.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:45 pm It's just Drago. It really makes the most sense the way things have gone down here.

I get what you say.

But i have a question, why wanted Nova to switch with Fayt, at eod, the wagons. Where is the sense?

I will play in 8-10 hours

is midnight my head can't think properly

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:27 pm Macdougall is the Pinscher

do we have an IC?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:40 pm Michelle or Fayt. Hmm.

haha this is hilarious. We both helped you survive yesterday ans now you find us scum? Are we playing the same game?

Fayt wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:50 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:41 pm fayt went to dom for a few seconds so nova could have changed but then went back lol

sorry mobile is hard for me to follow. I thought the plan was to tie it, then i noticed late that

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:36 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:28 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:28 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:21 pm @Fayt @novaselinenever @nutella @Michelle Let's lynch LC together.

I'm not lynching LC.

What are you gonna do if Dom is town?

I've been mulling over Mac, his facilitator role is unimpressive. Feels like he's doing the bare minimum and he's just like letting stuff happen. He hasn't really been memorable, and he's been cruising on a feel good look he has. But yeah Dom's probably bad for sure, dude's shady af lol.

why this? we have just one mafia left

no sorry i was mixing thr wagons

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:21 pm @Fayt @novaselinenever @nutella @Michelle Let's lynch LC together.

but you are voting Dom isn't it?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:53 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:52 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:49 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:48 pm uhh ok so it sounds like the pit bull thing might explain that but drago is still not even attempting to make any sense lol

My understanding is that you guys are trying to understand why I'm behaving how I am?

this is correct

Ok, I can't explain to you guys in a logical explanation.

if JJJ overexplained and you cannot explain what we are going to do?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:41 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:38 pm low presence at Eod :/ where is everyone?

This feels fake. Most of us are here.

Then is about JJJ was very vocal. it feels cold

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:40 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:36 pm Nova you played more with Drago I think.
Do you see him civ?

Yeah he's being too stubborn in the way he's going about his ass on the line, I don't feel the lynch. Also it's not just about experience with him, like his behavior doesn't make much sense.

exactly this is a problem. All of us we need to catch the meaning

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:41 pm I'm still waiting to hear back from you Michelle.

ask again is 11 pm and i am already v tired. sumimasen

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:49 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:48 pm uhh ok so it sounds like the pit bull thing might explain that but drago is still not even attempting to make any sense lol

My understanding is that you guys are trying to understand why I'm behaving how I am?

this is correct

low presence at Eod :/ where is everyone?

Nova you played more with Drago I think.
Do you see him civ?

Fayt wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:30 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:27 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:13 pm Who do you guys think would kill Epi?

Idk. I have no consistent meta knowledge on the playlist . I start to think my meta about Rej was wrong.

What meta?

playstyle and alignament behaviour

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:13 pm Who do you guys think would kill Epi?

Idk. I have no consistent meta knowledge on the playlist . I start to think my meta about Rej was wrong.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:08 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:02 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:49 pm It's either Dom or Michelle for me but I need to read back at them to get my best feel.

I want for real to know your ideas.
What i dislike at you is not just the 1st day wagon formation, is also the cases you made, the idea you voted JJJ no matter alignament to see his flip, and an insecure feeling I had after D2. And a slight reservation in playstyle. You are holding yourself back. Just my feeling.
If you are not the last cat you have to explain this very good because you are in the spotlight now.
Pointing at me will not help because i am villager.

What does the d1 wagon tell you? How does it make me bad? I keep seeing it used against but I don't understand why.

Eod 1 had 3 wagons. Rej.flipping mafia, Long Con and you alive, Rej voted on counter wagon Long Con, speed bussed Rej. Long Con also voted Rej. Is asinine to consider both bussed Rej so i doubt LC is mafia.
On the other hand you were on that LongCon counterwagon. If Long Con were mafia Rej would vote you.
Of course this is how i see things. from that wagon just you, me and Nutella are alive rn. Nutella i may tinfoil but i have no real conviction she's scum.
And about me i know i can bark because i am civ.
Idk if i explained well in english but i did my best

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:49 pm It's either Dom or Michelle for me but I need to read back at them to get my best feel.

your own words sound cool.
How did you come up with this?