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Dunnstral wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:06 am Do other players understand my suspicion on Macdougall?

Not really, try to expand on it pls.
That means also that I forgot overnight what you posted about him and I couldn't yet reread anything being at work, so say it again anyway.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:20 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:04 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:59 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:52 pm Anyways, again, if anyone wants to give me some opinions on the last 9 pages or so, then I'll keep their thoughts in mind on first read-through.
Mac called me town leader while also saying he does trust me, so I guess I’ll try and summarize what I see with as little coloring as I can.

-Chelsea and Manny had a bit of a spat?
-mac is here and has only made 1 poop joke.
-almost everyone seems to townread Michelle apparently
-Lime Coke has declared I’m town, not gonna fight that fact anymore.
-Dunnstral has provided reads with reasons and is seemingly sheeping me
-Princess Abigail is bored and is trying to usurp me by getting to post cap first
-creature is gonna slank until things get interesting
-profit
Sooo
'almost everyone seems to townread Michelle apparently'
Means you don't but you choose to sheep the people I apparently pocketed?
Why I don't see real AI takes in your post here?
I think you’re probably town by consensus. My day 1 reads are generally shitty and I’ll cede to a majority.

And you don’t see AI takes in that post because, as I said, I was trying to give a general summary without providing paint on the walls

You keep avoiding the explanation of why did you scum read me and why are you still doing it while ignoring your read and sheeping the thread consensus

Manny wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:03 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:04 am Manny and unfortunate wolf rand don't belong in the same sentence for me. I noticed he really enjoyed himself as a wolf.
I hate wolfing lol, its one of the reasons i took a multiple year break of mafias inbetween 2019 amd 2022.
Me being good at it doesnt make me enjoy it.

Too bad. I enjoy the game regardless.

This doesn't make me unvote because with or without enjoying it, you can fake it and that's what matters in the end for village.

Please spoiler that if you quote it, or pick just a part to answer, thanks in advance.
As phone poster I really appreciate spoilers

Manny wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:52 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:49 pm Also kind request to drop the skill issue meme.
I only use it with people that im relatively close with that i know wont realistically care about it or on myself so shrug.
I wont use it on you though if that was the worry.

I don't care about it for myself.
It makes my blood pressure rise for unrelated reasons.
I consider it just bad.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:55 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:49 pm Also kind request to drop the skill issue meme.
It's not funny, it doesn't bring anything to the game and on top of that it's insulting if you look at it literally.
There's no reasoning with people who find that meme funny. Unfortunately I have come to realise that generationally they are broken. We ruined the kids Michelle.

Talk for yourself BigMac

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:04 pm Fwiw I am pre-emptively not applying usually Manny town meta looks to my mental model of Manny because I am very conscious that Manny gets overwhelmed when he lets himself get carried away in games and would be trying to hedge against that instinct in ways that might result in unusual looks.

The fact that he's actually posting with a pulse at all given the above might be strongly indicative he didn't cop an unfortunate wolf rand in this game tbh.

Manny and unfortunate wolf rand don't belong in the same sentence for me. I noticed he really enjoyed himself as a wolf.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:59 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:52 pm Anyways, again, if anyone wants to give me some opinions on the last 9 pages or so, then I'll keep their thoughts in mind on first read-through.
Mac called me town leader while also saying he does trust me, so I guess I’ll try and summarize what I see with as little coloring as I can.

-Chelsea and Manny had a bit of a spat?
-mac is here and has only made 1 poop joke.
-almost everyone seems to townread Michelle apparently
-Lime Coke has declared I’m town, not gonna fight that fact anymore.
-Dunnstral has provided reads with reasons and is seemingly sheeping me
-Princess Abigail is bored and is trying to usurp me by getting to post cap first
-creature is gonna slank until things get interesting
-profit

Sooo
'almost everyone seems to townread Michelle apparently'
Means you don't but you choose to sheep the people I apparently pocketed?
Why I don't see real AI takes in your post here?

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:23 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:09 pm ok, gonna go get some coffee and hit the gym.

In the meantime, someone give a reason why Epignosis is town.
He made me giggle

Solid.
But explain me the reason, it passed over my head

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:28 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:50 pm
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Prolific thread so far. Went to bed at the end of page 2, now it's page 11.

I'll catch up tonight, but I had an idea while driving home from work. If anyone wants to give me some suspicions or whatever that they have, then I can do the catchup sort of like a reread... to keep in mind some ideas like "X's progression was very towny/wolfy". If anyone wants to give some perspectives. Dinner first, so there's time for folks to respond with some angles.

I see Epi is going full-image-style, though if the images are just going to have text, then I don't see the point. I don't want to see billboards of post-text, I want nuance that a well-chosen image can illuminate, beyond, perhaps, what mere text can convey.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:46 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:02 pm Courier 6 could be more of a town-friendly Indy, so maybe 5 threats.
If we delve into game meta a lot then courier could be anything from good to evil or just chaos agent.

I’ll go out on a limb though and say both them and house are survivor style roles and the other needs to die
I haven't played the game, I just looked it up and saw that he's the protagonist/Player Character. Is it one of those games where you can choose "the evil route"?

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:12 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:36 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:30 pm But in all seriousness, I think Lime Coke thinks he has a good read on what my town game looks like.

I think it *more* likely, however;l, that he’s TMIing me
Maybe. Or maybe you're the Wolf, and saying that is an attempt to give good mindset vibes to the thread.
A little early to be playing this hard isn’t it
Is that what you consider playing hard? I thought it was just a single thought that occurred when reading Scotty's "he's TMI'ing me Town" thing.

Yes essentially you’ve got 3 options

1. Good
2. Evil
3. Libertarian:

it’s common to kill House as the courier hence my idea that they have to kill each other.

That's a thing to consider, thanks for sharing

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:29 pm So general thoughts:

Epi is NAI.

Scotty came in surprisingly strong, which was a good look, but his thoughts on Epi are weird. I’ll say third party for now and move on.

Mac, Jack, and Chelsea all have light town reads

Abi has a light mafia read

That is all

What your light town reads did to deserve it?

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:30 pm Ph Michelle is a solid town read also and light town reads of falcon and creature

Same question

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:06 pm Town Core

Mac
Lan
Chelsea
Scotty

Yeppers

You mean Mac is out of his scum range?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:25 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:20 am Scotty being so defensive of his scum game and Brad's take on it is imho enough to core that because I feel a wolf just rides that wave and plays to the style bread says he expects
Really? I consider denying townreads to be Basic Wolf 101.

I like this post. Feeling good about LC.

And good morning everyone ^^

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:48 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:46 pm I have to sleep.

I'll see you in the morning
Lol I just woke up and you're leaving. Ah typical.

It's 11 pm and i have to wake up for work at 5 am.
Give me a ping with any questions Mac ^^

Also kind request to drop the skill issue meme.
It's not funny, it doesn't bring anything to the game and on top of that it's insulting if you look at it literally.

I have to sleep.

I'll see you in the morning

Mindmelding with Chelsea, that's interesting...

VC

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[VOTE: Manny] aubergine

For 'towntelling'

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:03 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:56 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:54 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:38 pm I am waiting for my answer, Scotty
Sorry, in catchup mode.

You’re not gonna like my answer
Bring it on
Okay, you asked for it.
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The video isn't available in my country due to copyright

Manny wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:01 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:00 pm Are you aware no one can Iso your hundreds of posts in a game to check your playstyle, or not?
u dont need to check all my iso to know wether im a reactive or proactive player though?

Nor do I have to trust yout self meta you can fake at whim, isn't it?
Do something more than lazily call me town for nothing and I see where my read goes.

Lan, you're a good teacher!

Manny wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:57 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:56 pm I don’t think I’ve ever played with you, so it’s a bit disingenuous for me to be voting you at all here. But there’s something about your presence that feels reactive instead of proactive. If that makes sense
Im a reactive player, i only post if i have something to react to, i dont care much to lead or anything of the sort, anyone that has played with me can probably verify that.

Are you aware no one can Iso your hundreds of posts in a game to check your playstyle, or not?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:54 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:38 pm I am waiting for my answer, Scotty
Sorry, in catchup mode.

You’re not gonna like my answer

Bring it on

Manny wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:49 pm I recall 0 posts from Seanzie, prolly skill issue on my behalf, i may or may not go back to check their existance later.
tbf i also dont recall any epi posts

I'll help you out.
He posted 2 pics, one of them with 3 dolphins.

Also click'the racket' on the top page, and click on the number of posts of the thread, you will receive a list of posters and their post numbers. Click the number of posts and you have the Iso

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:42 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:04 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:57 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:24 pm Hi Brad!
I'll listen to that song later in the day

Long Con seems town.
Scotty, not that much.
Creature asked for a toDay pass. I'll give it to him
Why not Scotty?
For the slight shade at Creature and the mech post with 3 wolves.
Why shouldn’t I shade creature? Nothing he has done this game is how I imagine his wolf game looks. Giving him a pass is bizarro

These 2 sentences are a logical fallacy together

If he didn't post like a wolf, why is my pass so weird?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:39 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:37 pm Ok. I like Jack now.
Aww I like you too. As a sister.

Ok brother Jack

I am waiting for my answer, Scotty

Ok. I like Jack now.

As Esl and illiterate I have no idea how come Chelsea and Manny rhyme together.
But what do I know?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:24 pm
Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:17 am
Chelsea wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:21 am Thanks for the fish.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:47 pm Fuck it Scotty can be town.
Do you base this on the mech post? I find that a tad odd because anyone can speak on mech, especially considering it's basically truth-talk and busy work Day 1. It's probably the most irrelevant line of conversation you can go down. Now, given it's RVS at that point, sure talk away on a matter I consider unimportant but out of all of Scotty's early posts, why that one?

I can't decipher whether your reaction is over-eager or just premature. Even with your later answer just doesn’t feel like you should be this set.
Lots of incorrect assumptions in this post.
Agreed. Because I share this viewpoint I will light townread you. It shows Chelsea hasn’t really read the thread before making a blanket statement/read.

Also light scum read Chelsea.

Current list:

Townread:
Seanzie
Princess Abbi
TSP

Townlean:
Dunnstral

Scum lean:
Lime Coke
Chelsea
Creature

Scumread:
Michelle

Can you explain your read on Tony (1)?
And your scum read on me.
And Chelsea and Brad.
And whatever you want to add.

LanMisa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:54 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:47 pm
LanMisa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:43 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:29 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:25 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:23 am Why for both? Why maybe?
Chelsea's questioning of me feels towny since she isn't just trying to kill me or get me in a gotcha it's just trying to figure out what I'm doing.

Manny because of him looking to sheep Chelsea but doesn't instantly do it the moment she votes someone and questions it.

Maybe because it's something Manny can do as mafia but I'm choosing to think it's town.
The choice of reading someone by whim it's not giving the best answer.
I trust neither of them, especially because they look like distancing and playing 'towny'
That's not the impression I got from the exchange earlier, it felt to me like Chelsea was actually... taken back a bit? It felt like a proper chastising.
I don't really understand your post, if you can say it again pls.
What I meant is: Chelsea's reaction to Manny buttering up to her felt natural and not staged. I think that she was... negatively surprised? Not sure how to express that better. Considering that Chelsea did not expect that approach and acted in a rejecting way I doubt that Chelsea and Manny are both part of a wolf team.

(And I generally townread Chelsea anyways).

I took that as distancing, maybe I should reread it.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:57 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:24 pm Hi Brad!
I'll listen to that song later in the day

Long Con seems town.
Scotty, not that much.
Creature asked for a toDay pass. I'll give it to him
Why not Scotty?

For the slight shade at Creature and the mech post with 3 wolves.

LanMisa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:43 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:29 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:25 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:23 am Why for both? Why maybe?
Chelsea's questioning of me feels towny since she isn't just trying to kill me or get me in a gotcha it's just trying to figure out what I'm doing.

Manny because of him looking to sheep Chelsea but doesn't instantly do it the moment she votes someone and questions it.

Maybe because it's something Manny can do as mafia but I'm choosing to think it's town.
The choice of reading someone by whim it's not giving the best answer.
I trust neither of them, especially because they look like distancing and playing 'towny'
That's not the impression I got from the exchange earlier, it felt to me like Chelsea was actually... taken back a bit? It felt like a proper chastising.

I don't really understand your post, if you can say it again pls.

Come on Jack, how much time was since we played a game?

LanMisa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:34 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:28 pm Ok.
I don't trust you but I also don't have much showing me you can be bad.

Not trusting but not voting toDay are Manny and Chelsea for now.
Any reason for that which you haven't stated yet or will I stuble upon it in your ISO eventually?

Experience in playing with both don't give me trust in their apparently good intentions.

Ok.
I don't trust you but I also don't have much showing me you can be bad.

Not trusting but not voting toDay are Manny and Chelsea for now.

Manny wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:02 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 1:04 pm Do you have a Poe in mind?
Not really no, will prolly decide who to vote later on the day based on wagon purity and vibes.

Do you really think a wagon purity shows the wagoned player is a wolf?

To be honest I woke up at 4:10 and couldn't play more than that post. I would say it's NAI

Lime Coke is Brad, my hydra partner in game 3 at MU last year, main Blue Kang, alt Good Question. He has more alts I don't remember now.
@LanMisa

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:52 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:15 pm
Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:09 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:06 pm I'll say that the quick meta town read from Dunn looks TMI-ish to me.
Well that's not what happened as I've said.
Do you have reads on everyone who posted?

The post count in this moment
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Who posted - Fallout New Vegas: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [DAY 1] - 273 replies
User NamePosts
☆Princess Abigail☆62
Lime Coke46
Dunnstral30
Scotty29
Michelle27
Chelsea14
Manny12
falcon45ca11
Seanzie11
Long Con8
MacDougall8
JaggedJimmyJay7
Creature4
Epignosis3
Justplayingitcool1
TonyStarkPrime1
@DarlingMonroe
@Jackofhearts2005
@LanMisa
@sig
The game started, come play!
Towny:
☆Princess Abigail☆
Lime Coke
Michelle

Scummy:
Manny
Macdougall

The rest I'm either in the middle or have no opinion on.

What's scummy about them?

Manny wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:36 pm
Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:11 am You should bother to explain your reads so we know how you reached your conclusions. Your process can be more important than the result. You saying it is consensus anyway is not helpful.
I disagree with this, people can read my allignment without me doing so, i'd probably bother trying to towntell harder and doing said things if i was in the chopping block but i dont think is useful when it comes to either my solving process or town/scumhunting shrug. Mostly because its fakeable as fuck its easy to come up with bullshit reasons for any read.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:37 am It's not about me, it's about you.
I want to understand how come after enough games as either alignaments you have to sheep someone to read me
Why does it surprise u considering last time we were v/v was on the hydra game with waza and i just blindsheeped his read on u then, i have no reason to scumread u right now so there's no point in going against consensus and just sheeping and hoping its right makes solving by POE easier.

The explanation looks logical but Waza has a read on me almost 100% accurate. And hydra games are very different

Do you have a Poe in mind?

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:09 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:06 pm I'll say that the quick meta town read from Dunn looks TMI-ish to me.
Well that's not what happened as I've said.

Do you have reads on everyone who posted?

The post count in this moment

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@DarlingMonroe
@Jackofhearts2005
@LanMisa
@sig
The game started, come play!

I'll say that the quick meta town read from Dunn looks TMI-ish to me.

Also Manny's sheep on others so lazily is also a thing I don't trust.

I am still thinking at these, any feedback is welcomed

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:42 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:39 am Do you think a simple comparison with one game is giving you a decent meta read?
I was looking to see if I could find you posting like the post Falcon quoted in your mafia game, but you don't do it until what seems like the latter half of that game. In the first half your posting looks quite different.

That's irrelevant. I have alot more games posting one liners as town

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:43 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:41 am I mean that was either too late to be genuine or too fast after Falcon made the statement.

Feels fabricated.
Well this doesn't make sense. It was too late or too fast.

Too late to be your concern since I made the post, to soon to start digging for meta only because Falcon mentioned it. That's my impression, that it's not a natural process of solving.
I checked the time frame, why did you look after it after Falcon voted you?

Also
[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

I mean that was either too late to be genuine or too fast after Falcon made the statement.

Feels fabricated.

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:37 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:00 am
Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:56 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:44 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:07 am Morning again.

Soo, Scotty decided I deserve a vote because I didn't like his game start, choose to change the vibe by a huge nothinburger meta post, btw a 17er needs 4 wolves imo and an 18er would add a kind of survivor, or jester, something unrelated much with the other 17.
Without flips this has littls value anyway

Brad why did you accept me in your pocket if you don't town read me?
#jumps out
Now I'll search for other comfy pockets...

Also, +1 to Sean because made me smile.
Long Con keeps the top town position.
Brad is ok-ish even if he has empty pockets ^^
If Scotty thinks he knows Brad I have news, we were hydra partners recently so I can make my own attempt to read Brad without Scotty's "help"
Aand Scotty is still underwhelming

The newcomer, welcome to the site! I need more from them.

Anyone else didn't show AI stuff imo.

Michelle is town
Do you think Michelle would not make posts like this if they were mafia?

I mean, maybe?

But also, no
search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&t=25 ... &start=100

Compared to the above game where Michelle was mafia, especially since we are in the early game she does seem to be much more verbose in this game and they seem more focused as well. So I would agree.

Do you think a simple comparison with one game is giving you a decent meta read?

Manny wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:04 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:20 am Why would you do such thing?
Why shouldnt i, are u not town?.

It's not about me, it's about you.
I want to understand how come after enough games as either alignaments you have to sheep someone to read me

VC

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MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:17 am 1. My feeling is most of the mafia have yet to post.

2. [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Ama.

Adding numbers

1. Why?

2. Why?

Manny wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:36 am
Chelsea wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:39 am I do apologize you're right it would be a bit boring if you just did what I asked without a second glance. But, you're supposed to carry me why else would I join?
I can vaguely compromise on carrying each other, but i like sheeping more than i like leading

Dunnstral why do u think im mafia?.

I still only townread Brad and Scottie, this probably means im skill issueing in the formation of new reads, but it is what it is.
Maybe i should sheep the consensus and lazily call Mich town.

Why would you do such thing?

Where is @MacDougall ?

I have to work, but when I come back I want your reads, sir!

Also @LanMisa

how are you? I hope you have time to play this game

Chelsea wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:58 am Michelle has called me a wolf in every game we've played in so her doing so here is towny, although I do think everyone should just ignore her read in regards to myself. That's the only time I'll speak on the matter though.

I did it and you were always town when I thought you are a wolf.
Except this time my read is you are town.
And because I was never right I have to reverse the read.

That's the only time i'll speak on the matter.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:52 am Also why is it impossible that all of us are town?

Because in 18 players what is mafia doing if everyone posting at one moment is town?
Mafia needs thread presence, otherwise they're boxed in the Poe easily

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:52 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:45 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:39 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:37 am What I'm saying is the wolfs are not currently active
Ebwop I hate mobile phones
I don't think so.
I take this a towny from you though.
Why is it towny for me when I don't think I've ever used this read before

It's not a meta read.
People saying the thread feels towny have the intent to solve many players at once. This is hard to back track on if you are mafia.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:51 am Now my hydra partners can get along.

Sorry, if Chelsea is towny she is mafia. If I don't have an urge to chop her, I mean.
I am also sure she knows how to pocket you, so there's that

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:36 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:27 am
Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:22 am They talk later about their reasons and it was not the mech post. But you assume it is and run with it and ask questions about that.

It's strange to me that Lime Coke rushes to call you town too given the above.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:07 am Creature keeps making excuses for why people are gonna vote him and it feels very defeatist in a wolfy way but I won't vote there unless someone checks me because I can't read creature
It is a bit of a misrepresentation to frame it like this, they made their posts at the start of the day and haven't posted since then. As for me I don't have an opinion on Creature yet but didn't find their early posts to be alarming (though I also dislike when people say they're not good on day 1 like this)
Can you talk a little about your playstyle?
Also if you can link recent games as both alignaments it would be nice
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:21 am M-m-m-mafia

Town:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=92020
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=91870

Mafia:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=91817
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=91644

To navigate to just my posts you can scroll to the bottom right of the page, go to the activity overview, and click my post count

As for my playstyle, I try to shoo people away from voting low activity players on day 1 and try to caution against people townreading others for superficially looking towny especially on day 1. I tend towards talking more about mech. Sometimes I will disappear from thread for a day or more but that's not really indicative of my alignment (has happened multiple times as both alignments and I often get heat for it, generally I'm just not interested in catching up with hundreds of posts at the moment and the game is otherwise not interesting and spinning in circles). I try to keep an open mind and not tunnel, but if I find an inconsistency I do stick to it and try to get that player voted out while further analyzing new information.

Thank you!
This will help me to find you at one moment

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 4:50 am
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Also always be mindful of the culture of respect that must be maintained in all Syndicate spaces at all times, to include this game thread and any external communication spaces relating to the game. Players must be respectful to one another, to the game host, to the members of the staff overseeing the game, to the game itself by way of its rules and spirit, to the Syndicate community in general, and ideally also to themselves. Respect is never optional. See our full manifesto on our culture of respect below.

[Link] A Syndicate Mafia Culture of Respect

Voting and Claiming Rules

Claiming

Public claims of role identity and role information are legal. The game has been designed deliberately to avoid this resulting in an easily solved or broken mechanical system.

Voting

1. The game will operate purely on the basis of voting plurality. There is no majority hammer vote. The player who has received the most votes when the poll deadline arrives will be eliminated.
2. Votes may be changed at will and without limitation.
3. It is required to place votes in both the poll (by clicking a radio button and submitting) and the game thread (in a clear manner such as using the [ vote ][ /vote ] tags (no spaces)). The poll does not track voting order, so you must call votes in the thread to ensure it is possible for players to track votes if they wish to do so.
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4. Voting for yourself is not permitted and will not count. This applies to all players regardless of alignment.
5. Voting is not obligatory. There is no requirement to place any vote during any phase. Participation is required, however, as described later in this post.
6. A "no elimination / sleep" option will be included in each day phase poll. To be enacted, this must win the plurality vote with no ties.

Participation Standard

I don't like to establish any hard-line standard for participation, by post count or whatever. Still, it is important that everyone make a reasonable effort to participate in the game. At least a few posts per day phase would be a bare minimum. If I feel that any player is not participating enough to keep play entirely fair, then I will seek replacements. I will resort to modkills if I must. The later we get into the game, the less inclined I will be to rely on any replacement. If something comes up and you will be unable to post for some manageable period, please let me know and we can work with that. If your computer explodes or your power fails, please try to at least shoot me a one-line alert on Discord. #jaggedjimmyjay

Substitutions / Replacements

I'd rather not! If it is absolutely necessary to find a substitute, I can try to achieve this (though only limited subs are available if any). However, I will not do this in the game any later than Night 3. If I am left with no alternative, I will consider modkills. I will also consider leaving a slot inactive.

Mafia Team Details

1. The mafia team will be permitted to communicate behind the scenes in a Discord server.
2. They will be allowed to begin communicating immediately upon receiving their role cards, before the game thread opens.
3. Mafia communication will be active during all phases, day and night.
4. Mafia are obligated to submit a night kill. Declining a night kill is not permitted. If a night kill is not provided to the host, a kill will be randomized among all living players (including the mafia team themselves).
5. Mafia are not permitted to submit night actions on behalf of their teammates unless explicit, visible consent is provided to the host.

Game Cycles

Day phases will last 48 hours. Night phases will last 24 hours. All phases will end at 9:00 PM EST. If the host encounters unexpected scheduling conflicts and needs to change these cycles, the host will do so and alert all players accordingly.

Other Stuff

1. Behind the scenes communication is only permitted in host-designated locations and with host approval.
2. Neither editing nor deleting of posts in the game thread is permitted.
3. Please do not post in the game thread when you have died until the game is over.
4. Non-players may make infrequent jokes or off-topic comments in the game thread, but they must use the [ np ][ /np ] tags (no spaces). Do not abuse this privilege.
5. If living players wish to make off-topic comments, they may use the [ ot ][ /ot ] tags to use the designated "off-topic green" text. This is not required.
6. If you have any questions about the game, please ask the host privately. If deemed necessary, the host may provide a public answer.
7. Indicate that you have read the rules by saying "thanks for the fish, JJJ" in the game thread. This is not required, but it's nice to know people care.

Angleshooting

Don't.

We all know what the spirit of Mafia is about. So don't. If you ever think something might be cutting it close, just ask me before doing it/saying it. Thanks gang.

Examples of things that suck:
- Relying on volatile emotionality as a strategy to progress the game for yourself (or posting the same material non-strategically). Contact the moderator on duty (@Justplayingitcool).
- Referencing out-of-game personal information to progress yourself in the game (regardless of alignment) -- you can mention things about life, just don't expect it to necessarily be worth added grace in the game.
- Trying to use specific wording in your role card to glean information in the thread
- Making reads or judgments about the game based upon who you see in the "Who is online" section under the thread
- Openly calling for or talking about the mafia team conceding
- Discussing anything outside the game thread that should have no bearing on it (e.g., technical quirks you observe on Discord) other than ordinary metagaming
- Plenty of other things; there are too many to list. Contact me if you're tempted but unsure or if you believe someone else has engaged in an angleshooting or appeal to emotion violation.

So you read the OP in diagonale

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:39 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:37 am What I'm saying is the wolfs are not currently active
Ebwop I hate mobile phones

I don't think so.
I take this a towny from you though.

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You explained you can't read Creature yet you imply a scum read.
I get you think it's a read explanation but I don't see it as such, Abi

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