The Syndicate

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 2:04 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 1:59 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:29 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:27 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:26 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:24 pm Okay then. Let’s make a pact to lynch me in the abscess of figuring anything out. I feel like there isn’t an obvious suspect among us.

I did manage to take a screenshot of a post Michelle made, color-coding the first three lynches. I can try to recreate that here. That might help us.

The roles listed suggest SVS and nutella 2 were civ and sig bad, so I will start there.

I'm against any plan that suggests we shouldn't scum hunt.

That said, we could see what happens if we try to lynch G-man by a tally of 3-2.

Ok, but there’s six of us. How do you plan on getting that sixth vote elsewhere? Trust?

3 people vote for you
2 people vote for someone else
1 person dicks around

Sloonei you didn't follow the plan

The votes actually did end up splitting exactly like that, just with different names.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:29 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:27 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:26 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:24 pm Okay then. Let’s make a pact to lynch me in the abscess of figuring anything out. I feel like there isn’t an obvious suspect among us.

I did manage to take a screenshot of a post Michelle made, color-coding the first three lynches. I can try to recreate that here. That might help us.

The roles listed suggest SVS and nutella 2 were civ and sig bad, so I will start there.

I'm against any plan that suggests we shouldn't scum hunt.

That said, we could see what happens if we try to lynch G-man by a tally of 3-2.

Ok, but there’s six of us. How do you plan on getting that sixth vote elsewhere? Trust?

3 people vote for you
2 people vote for someone else
1 person dicks around

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:26 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:24 pm Okay then. Let’s make a pact to lynch me in the abscess of figuring anything out. I feel like there isn’t an obvious suspect among us.

I did manage to take a screenshot of a post Michelle made, color-coding the first three lynches. I can try to recreate that here. That might help us.

The roles listed suggest SVS and nutella 2 were civ and sig bad, so I will start there.

I'm against any plan that suggests we shouldn't scum hunt.

That said, we could see what happens if we try to lynch G-man by a tally of 3-2.

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 1:03 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:03 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:58 am I'm back and see there's still no EOD post. Is anyone here?

Opportunism for you means to vote in the wagon wjo has most votes.
I don't trust you, sorry about that.

Imagine if I am wrong my green flip. Who is the baddie here?
If you are wolf my question is pointless.

Michelle, I did not vote in the wagon with the most votes. I voted speedchuck who had no votes at the time.

I'm not sure what you mean by "imagine if I am wrong my green flip". Do you mean what if you flip town? I did not vote for you so that's what I would expect. My guess is speed is the baddie here.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:44 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:00 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:54 pm Soooo uh, Sig is bad then

Speed shouldn't have a better grasp over the game than this?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:54 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:51 pm Oooooooooookay.

Were all those roles on the civvie list?

Subsequently,are all those people really dead if this is Inception-land?

I'm assuming sig is bad because of the flavortext in the above post. Architect with anti-monitor

@speedchuck you already suspected sig isn't it? I would expect some joy noticing he is revealed now as scum.

Let's continue our convo, I wish to understand you.

Joy is also an emotion. I am not very emotionally involved in this game, beyond just having fun in it.

In addition, I was considering whether the sig slip was a real slip in the main thread. Those posts were quickly invalidated.

I'm not sure what you wish to understand. I'm very not sure what your read on me is anyway.

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:28 am

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:26 am On the few times it happened at the beginning of the game, I felt it gave the civvies an unfair advantage to analyze posts during that lag. They civ-cleard a few people based on their reactions and responses, and I think zeroed in on one of the baddies. It was an unnatural pause that gave a considerable boost to the civvies who figured out how to use it to their advantage. I felt that it wasn’t fair to the baddies to have to navigate that because they normally wouldn’t have to.

Huh, very interesting. I have never noticed that happening before. So are you saying maybe we should not post during this lag?

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:58 am I'm back and see there's still no EOD post. Is anyone here?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:37 am Base reads for these players:

Sloonei: doubtful for either mafia team by interaction, looks like a civilian to me at face value
juliets: doubtful for either mafia team by interaction, looks like a civilian to me at face value
Michelle: conceivable Mac connection, has seemed mostly genuine in limited appearances
speedchuck: conceivable Mac connection, doesn't look great at face value either
G-Man: conceivable Radish connection, hasn't provided much to the hunting effort, at times has seemed earnest in response to pressure

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:32 pm I have a very specific tinfoil about Michelle. It relies on more If's than I'd like, and her recent vote change to juliets may point in another direction, but it's on my mind and I want to get it out there.

Part of the premise of this theory is that sig triggered the "inception" phase that we are currently in (his role, The Architect, is a character from Inception/Inception Mafia and he was likely to be lynched today, so it would have been his last chance to trigger this mechanic which could theoretically be hidden in the role's *secrets*), so if you don't care about that theory then feel free to skip the rest of this post. I am not convinced that it's the case, but it's a possibility that I recognize.

We're a small group of 6. None of us, as far as I'm aware, could have anticipated that the threads were going to be split up today, let alone which group we'd placed in or who we'd be placed in a group with... unless we are responsible for triggering the mechanic. If this was sig's doing, his partner (the anti-monitor) would be in on it as well. In Inception Mafia, the roster was split up mostly at random each time a new thread was created, but the mafia team had slight control over which players submerged onto each level.

Michelle entered today having already compiled a big clump of posts from speedchuck in the original thread before the split happened. Speedchuck also happens to be one of the 5 players she shares this thread with. It looks extremely convenient that, in such a small and presumably random group of players, Michelle was prepared to attack one of us before the day began. Of course, it's not impossible that this is all pure coincidence, that she had singled out speedchuck as a Player To Read during the night, and then she happened to get put into a new thread with him by sheer luck during the day. speedchuck is a viable candidate to be lynched, and if the mafia team does have some control over where players are going, he wouldn't be the worst option for a player who wants to have a scapegoat in their group. Of course, Michelle is currently voting for Juliets, which complicates things somewhat but doesn't entirely erase my initial concern. I've also had no reason to associate Michelle with any of the anti-monitor members prior to now. She voted for Radishes on an abbreviated Day 1, then Turnip Head on Day 2 when Radishes was lynched, and Mac on Day 3 when sig was the counterwagon.

None of this constitutes a read on speedchuck himself, as he could very well be a member of the other team. Without the other thread I have no direct evidence to link him there, obviously.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:54 pm Soooo uh, Sig is bad then

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:54 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:51 pm Oooooooooookay.

Were all those roles on the civvie list?

Subsequently,are all those people really dead if this is Inception-land?

I'm assuming sig is bad because of the flavortext in the above post. Architect with anti-monitor

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 4:59 pm @speedchuck I would appreciate anything you can remind me of from the main thread that you feel like I should remember as town. @Michelle same for you - what should I be remembering that would say "oh yeah, she is town".

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:09 am I have been town reading Jay and Sloonei and have vacillated on G-Man though my last read in the thread was that he is town (due to those seemingly genuine posts about lynching him to lure some scum in). That leaves Michelle and speed who I did not have a strong read on and hadn't done their ISOs. I had vague feelings about them but that isn't helpful now. So I guess my decision will be between the two of them unless something happens to change my perspective today.

I'm off to work now and will probably be there until mid to late afternoon. I'll catch up as soon as I get home.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:02 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:49 am In short my answer explained you (this was my intention anyway) that my post wasn't a shade.

I want to visit this assertion, that your post "wasn't a shade". I reviewed each of the comments you made about speedchuck's posts and reduced them to quick phrases or blurbs, with color coding to indicate the feelings you conveyed as I interpret them:

- NAI or mafia
- "worrisome" -- seems negative
- NAI "town read" from speed or mafia
- NAI "nothing" or mafia, "-1 in context"
- "suspicious chain" -- clearly negative
- "word salad" -- not positive at best
- speed's vote is "convenient" -- seems negative
- "rubs me the wrong way" / NAI
- if mafia, aligned with Radish -- I won't color this one since it's conditional

How is this not shade?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:12 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:08 pm

Speed wrote:Overall, this post says a lot of nothing, while skewing a bunch of the posts I've made negative to be picked apart. Going over it, it's not egregious I guess. It's just fluffy and tosses shade in my direction while being very hands-off.

You say I am wrong and shady. If I would be shady I wouldn't post all the naked Iso without my oppinion first, I would go directly with comments.
Juliets asked and I put my ideas, and you as hater of emotions should react more cool at it and explain why am I wrong
But you made it a tennis mafia and the ball is in your court again.
speedchuck

Did you sense any anger in my post? I'm cool.

I didn't say you were wrong. You haven't stated an opinion or a read that CAN really be wrong. That's the problem. You've posted a bunch of might posts and said 'This could be bad, right? Heh? Heeeeh?'

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:49 pm @Michelle were there other people you were ISOing during the night, or was speed your only target?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:16 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:08 pm

Speed wrote:Overall, this post says a lot of nothing, while skewing a bunch of the posts I've made negative to be picked apart. Going over it, it's not egregious I guess. It's just fluffy and tosses shade in my direction while being very hands-off.

You say I am wrong and shady. If I would be shady I wouldn't post all the naked Iso without my oppinion first, I would go directly with comments.
Juliets asked and I put my ideas, and you as hater of emotions should react more cool at it and explain why am I wrong
But you made it a tennis mafia and the ball is in your court again.
speedchuck

I'm going to [VOTE: michelle] aubergine. This response does not address my grievances.

If I understand it correctly, it says "Why u mad? Let's play NO U tennis."

(again, this isn't me being emotional, I'm just sarcastic. It helps make my points.)

Speed wrote:Overall, this post says a lot of nothing, while skewing a bunch of the posts I've made negative to be picked apart. Going over it, it's not egregious I guess. It's just fluffy and tosses shade in my direction while being very hands-off.

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:10 pm @Michelle I'm going through these posts to give you my thoughts in blue.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:24 pm

Spoiler: show

<snip>

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:10 pm Saitama is mafia? We might as well give up now.

this post, wether is from a player who knows the original role which is NAI, or is mafia from any team who thinks mentioning a scum member may look good.

Michelle earlier you said you didn't have any game related thoughts about this post, it just made you chuckle. My read of this post is that he is talking about the character Saitama in whatever anime/cartoon/other Saitama is in, just joking around like everyone was in the beginning. I don't get what the point would be of posting it as scum.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:47 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:47 pm I've not voted yet so I haven't seen the poll. Who is in the 4th slot on Nutella, Jack, and/or me?

Thar be scum. Bet me.

Yay! Someone else ascribes to the "fourth is scum" theory of vote trains!

The midmeld with Radishes is worrisome

Maybe I don't use the word "mind-meld" the same way everyone else does but I think of it as several thoughts where two or more players see someone's posts the same way. This agreement on the positioning of voters didn't cause me any concern, though I disagree with what they are saying.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:50 pm Upon further reflection of ISOs both of these wagons are shiiiiiiiiiiiny turds.

Nutella I can see why people suspect her. The interactions starting when Mac wagoned on look pretty bad. But lynching nutella D1 after she gets defensive over some tunneling is wonky.

I have no idea why anyone would vote Master Radishes.

I take from this that he TRs Radishes ot they are buddies.

I think he definitely town reads him at this point but several of us did. Does this mean they were on the same team? I guess it could but it could also just be a town read.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:32 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:04 pm Of those names, I’m not sure one in particular stands out. I think Sig’s vote was the most egregious, but his macro play of all those names has been the greenest. At the moment I’m not entirely sure where I’d place a vote (and obviously can’t anyway), but GTH I’d say Sabie. Also not a fan of Mac’s play on this – inconsistent and never landed on the wagon or, conversely, showed progression away from it. Just blew on the sparks a bit.

I dunno, I was suspicious of Sig for a reason I think. Let me look back.

Ah, yes, it was his crappity crap reasons for still wanting to lynch nutella after Jack recanted. He overcompenisated for his position by throwing a bunch of bad reasons in with the good.

Radishes talks relaxed about scumbuddies and Speed comes with a suspicion at Sig. This can be scum theatre, but it can be nothing as well. In the context comes at -1, i don't believe in coincidences.

Are you saying here that this could be speed throwing sig under the bus (he voted for him later)? I guess that's possible but I don't see it as strong evidence. What does the -1 mean?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:35 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:33 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:32 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:04 pm Of those names, I’m not sure one in particular stands out. I think Sig’s vote was the most egregious, but his macro play of all those names has been the greenest. At the moment I’m not entirely sure where I’d place a vote (and obviously can’t anyway), but GTH I’d say Sabie. Also not a fan of Mac’s play on this – inconsistent and never landed on the wagon or, conversely, showed progression away from it. Just blew on the sparks a bit.

I dunno, I was suspicious of Sig for a reason I think. Let me look back.

Ah, yes, it was his crappity crap reasons for still wanting to lynch nutella after Jack recanted. He overcompenisated for his position by throwing a bunch of bad reasons in with the good.

1. Reason wasnt crappy
2. Was laying out my thought process.

It would be imo so much worse to instantly switch off since Jack changed his mind, especially since I didnt base my vote solely off his read and two she wasn't a civ?

Not to mention I stated a few times she wasnt my top lynch which Is why I switched off once things evened our a bit.

Some of your reasons were crappy. And you had some perfectly good reasons. Overcompensating to justify staying on nutella. Meh. Minor sus.

This chain is suspicious and may very well be a scum team interaction, to not receive a further "they didn't interact itt". The only good thing is Speed voted for Sig but i don't remember when and the poll positions don't reflect the order of the votes iirc

Yes, it could be a scum team interaction but I don't have enough evidence to call it one. I don't know when this happened in relation to the major suspicion of sig. If it happened early on I wouldn't tend to see it as a scum interaction. sig was an almost universal town read early in the game so there would be no reason for a teammate to throw shade his way. If it happened later then maybe.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:42 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:38 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:37 pm Having read over the last two pages, Dys and Dom are my top townreads. Their votes are on people I would like to see lynched.

I got twenty minutes. Lets go.

Expand on this, mr chuck

I got weird vibes from Ted D1, and then he appeared reluctant to address Dizzy's 'scumslip' on him. It wasn't the slip itself that bothered me, but his forced nonchalance about it? Something like that. Lol at her flipping votes, though.

The Mac read is nothing special. I agree with what Jay said about his Dom post, and a few other sentiments expressed in the past two pages.

Dizzy and Dom both seemed like fairly stable, level heads in the thread D1. I like town dizzy and town dom.

Bonus: I don't care to lynch G-man.

Maybe is Speed speciality but this post is more a word salad, no offense.. Maybe is just me who don't understand it's meaning.

For me it's hard to understand because I can't see the underlying posts he is talking about. I have no idea what ted said about Dizzy without looking back. Same with what Jay said about Mac's Dom post. So I don't have an understanding of what he's trying to say.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:55 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:50 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:44 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:38 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:37 pm Having read over the last two pages, Dys and Dom are my top townreads. Their votes are on people I would like to see lynched.

I got twenty minutes. Lets go.

I actually wanna hear this

There's not much to hear, yo. You give me vibes. Even with this post you give me vibes.

"Someone suspects me!? I LAUGH! Tell me of this inconsequential suspicion, fellow townie, and we'll work it out over tea." It's, just, it doesn't feel genuine.

It comes more from a PoV of me having a civ role and transparently laying out my thoughts, which would make me believe I'm obvious town (I never filter my thoughts) and me never being mislynched in one year of mafia is also contributing towards this. I'd rarely been suspected as town so I have high expectation when such claims occur.

Ok, I got lynched once but that was when I was on a holiday at the sea and I didn't care enough to stress myself

Too calculated a response. Bad.

I mean, if you're seriously genuine here, then you have an ego the size of a train and self-analysis out the butt. It doesn't read like transparently laying out thoughts.

So hey, if you never get mislynched, and we lynch you today, then you must be scum, right? Otherwise you wouldn't get lynched.

voted Ted just after but after, asked by Nanook, he switched to voting Mac.
My understanding on Ted's play (playing with him since summer) is that he has strong beliefs and shares them itt. Sometimes he is wrong but as villager he is like a rock. His posts are not scummy for me. Scum would not be so relaxed i think. But Speed finds him wolfy, and is more like it's a whim to vote him because he dislikes the playstyle without trying to have a real read. Is convenient to vote a player with not known meta.

Michelle, how do you remember that he voted Ted just after that but then was asked by Nanook to change? I can't remember anything that detailed from the thread. I agree about ted having strong beliefs and sharing them. I think what your saying here is you disagree with his read on ted and think it was scummy of him to vote ted when ted has no known meta (to speed I guess). I don't know ted that well but I see your point that maybe he's reading him based on play style. I would want to look at anything else he had to say about ted though to make a determination that it's scummy.
I's not that I remember, i made a note on this because for me early votes matters

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:02 pm I would, right now, vote sig, TH, Mac, and anyone who has appealed to emotion. I would murder the emotion right out of this game.

Rubs me the wrong way. Mafia is like 1/3 emotion. Villagers have an emotional force while wolves can have fear, anguish or delightful joy depending of the player's preferences. This post looks like NAI but doesn't help town.

We have had some high emotion in this game and I have to agree I don't care for it. Some of it was downright uncomfortable. I think when we get too emotional we sometimes don't reason as well and facts are forgotten or misconstrued. I know I have been guilty of that.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:10 pm So we can start with him.

But I have a hit list, and I'm considering putting you on it.

[VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

If Speed is mafia he is aligned with the Radishes team imo. A tinfoilable slot.

Ok so this would mean he bussed sig which is possible.

I guess what makes me a little queasy about doing this analysis is speed had more posts in the game so we're taking a piece of what he said and trying to make a determination based on a piece. Maybe that's unavoidable given our circumstances. Michelle, what was the criteria you used to select these posts of his? Are they part of a full ISO of him and this was all you saved?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:05 pm I'd like to see @Michelle respond to that. I'd also like it if she could tell us why she specifically had all those speedchuck posts saved and ready to go.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:10 pm Saitama is mafia? We might as well give up now.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:47 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:47 pm I've not voted yet so I haven't seen the poll. Who is in the 4th slot on Nutella, Jack, and/or me?

Thar be scum. Bet me.

Yay! Someone else ascribes to the "fourth is scum" theory of vote trains!

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:50 pm Upon further reflection of ISOs both of these wagons are shiiiiiiiiiiiny turds.

Nutella I can see why people suspect her. The interactions starting when Mac wagoned on look pretty bad. But lynching nutella D1 after she gets defensive over some tunneling is wonky.

I have no idea why anyone would vote Master Radishes.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:32 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:04 pm Of those names, I’m not sure one in particular stands out. I think Sig’s vote was the most egregious, but his macro play of all those names has been the greenest. At the moment I’m not entirely sure where I’d place a vote (and obviously can’t anyway), but GTH I’d say Sabie. Also not a fan of Mac’s play on this – inconsistent and never landed on the wagon or, conversely, showed progression away from it. Just blew on the sparks a bit.

I dunno, I was suspicious of Sig for a reason I think. Let me look back.

Ah, yes, it was his crappity crap reasons for still wanting to lynch nutella after Jack recanted. He overcompenisated for his position by throwing a bunch of bad reasons in with the good.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:35 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:33 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:32 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:04 pm Of those names, I’m not sure one in particular stands out. I think Sig’s vote was the most egregious, but his macro play of all those names has been the greenest. At the moment I’m not entirely sure where I’d place a vote (and obviously can’t anyway), but GTH I’d say Sabie. Also not a fan of Mac’s play on this – inconsistent and never landed on the wagon or, conversely, showed progression away from it. Just blew on the sparks a bit.

I dunno, I was suspicious of Sig for a reason I think. Let me look back.

Ah, yes, it was his crappity crap reasons for still wanting to lynch nutella after Jack recanted. He overcompenisated for his position by throwing a bunch of bad reasons in with the good.

1. Reason wasnt crappy
2. Was laying out my thought process.

It would be imo so much worse to instantly switch off since Jack changed his mind, especially since I didnt base my vote solely off his read and two she wasn't a civ?

Not to mention I stated a few times she wasnt my top lynch which Is why I switched off once things evened our a bit.

Some of your reasons were crappy. And you had some perfectly good reasons. Overcompensating to justify staying on nutella. Meh. Minor sus.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:42 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:38 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:37 pm Having read over the last two pages, Dys and Dom are my top townreads. Their votes are on people I would like to see lynched.

I got twenty minutes. Lets go.

Expand on this, mr chuck

I got weird vibes from Ted D1, and then he appeared reluctant to address Dizzy's 'scumslip' on him. It wasn't the slip itself that bothered me, but his forced nonchalance about it? Something like that. Lol at her flipping votes, though.

The Mac read is nothing special. I agree with what Jay said about his Dom post, and a few other sentiments expressed in the past two pages.

Dizzy and Dom both seemed like fairly stable, level heads in the thread D1. I like town dizzy and town dom.

Bonus: I don't care to lynch G-man.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:55 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:50 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:44 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:38 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:37 pm Having read over the last two pages, Dys and Dom are my top townreads. Their votes are on people I would like to see lynched.

I got twenty minutes. Lets go.

I actually wanna hear this

There's not much to hear, yo. You give me vibes. Even with this post you give me vibes.

"Someone suspects me!? I LAUGH! Tell me of this inconsequential suspicion, fellow townie, and we'll work it out over tea." It's, just, it doesn't feel genuine.

It comes more from a PoV of me having a civ role and transparently laying out my thoughts, which would make me believe I'm obvious town (I never filter my thoughts) and me never being mislynched in one year of mafia is also contributing towards this. I'd rarely been suspected as town so I have high expectation when such claims occur.

Ok, I got lynched once but that was when I was on a holiday at the sea and I didn't care enough to stress myself

Too calculated a response. Bad.

I mean, if you're seriously genuine here, then you have an ego the size of a train and self-analysis out the butt. It doesn't read like transparently laying out thoughts.

So hey, if you never get mislynched, and we lynch you today, then you must be scum, right? Otherwise you wouldn't get lynched.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:02 pm I would, right now, vote sig, TH, Mac, and anyone who has appealed to emotion. I would murder the emotion right out of this game.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:10 pm So we can start with him.

But I have a hit list, and I'm considering putting you on it.

[VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:50 am On a whim, I took a screenshot of one of Michelle's posts to help me start to straighten out the multi-team suspicions. Here's Michelle's data, updated with the latest night post results:

Red = Team Master
Purple = Team Anti-Monitor
Orange = 3P
Green = Civvie

Day 1:
1 DIZZY - Tony
1 JACK - Sprityo
1 JJJ - Radishes
6 RADISHES - JJJ, Ted, SVS, Michelle, Sloonei, Dizzy
1 NANOOK01 - Sig
6 NUTELLA01- Nanook01, Turnip, Sabie, Jack, Mac, Dom
2 SPEED - Epi, Nutella01



Day 2:
1 G-MAN - Ted
7 MAC - Speed, Sig, Jack, Dom, Sabie, Sprityo, Nanook02
9 RADISHES - Tony, JJJ, SVS, Sloonei, Epi, Juliets, Mac, Colin, Turnip
2 SLOONEI - Dizzy, G-Man
3 TURNIP - Michelle, Tranq, Radishes



Day 3:
2 JACK - Turnip, Mac
10 MAC - Ted, Tony, G-Man, Jack, Michelle, Nanook02, Sig, Sprityo, Epi, Tranq
8 SIG - Colin, SVS, Sloonei, Dom, Speed, Nutella02, JJJ, Juliets



Sig being the Architect allows us to fill in his color along with the civvies who died last night. That leaves just one on Team Anti-Monitor (the titular role) and three still unknown from Team Master.

Let's all look at this and digest it a bit. This Inception stuff just splits us up. It didn't change alignment (at least not mine). I'll post some observations relevant to this group tomorrow.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:10 pm Saitama is mafia? We might as well give up now.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:47 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:47 pm I've not voted yet so I haven't seen the poll. Who is in the 4th slot on Nutella, Jack, and/or me?

Thar be scum. Bet me.

Yay! Someone else ascribes to the "fourth is scum" theory of vote trains!

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:50 pm Upon further reflection of ISOs both of these wagons are shiiiiiiiiiiiny turds.

Nutella I can see why people suspect her. The interactions starting when Mac wagoned on look pretty bad. But lynching nutella D1 after she gets defensive over some tunneling is wonky.

I have no idea why anyone would vote Master Radishes.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:32 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:04 pm Of those names, I’m not sure one in particular stands out. I think Sig’s vote was the most egregious, but his macro play of all those names has been the greenest. At the moment I’m not entirely sure where I’d place a vote (and obviously can’t anyway), but GTH I’d say Sabie. Also not a fan of Mac’s play on this – inconsistent and never landed on the wagon or, conversely, showed progression away from it. Just blew on the sparks a bit.

I dunno, I was suspicious of Sig for a reason I think. Let me look back.

Ah, yes, it was his crappity crap reasons for still wanting to lynch nutella after Jack recanted. He overcompenisated for his position by throwing a bunch of bad reasons in with the good.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:35 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:33 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:32 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:04 pm Of those names, I’m not sure one in particular stands out. I think Sig’s vote was the most egregious, but his macro play of all those names has been the greenest. At the moment I’m not entirely sure where I’d place a vote (and obviously can’t anyway), but GTH I’d say Sabie. Also not a fan of Mac’s play on this – inconsistent and never landed on the wagon or, conversely, showed progression away from it. Just blew on the sparks a bit.

I dunno, I was suspicious of Sig for a reason I think. Let me look back.

Ah, yes, it was his crappity crap reasons for still wanting to lynch nutella after Jack recanted. He overcompenisated for his position by throwing a bunch of bad reasons in with the good.

1. Reason wasnt crappy
2. Was laying out my thought process.

It would be imo so much worse to instantly switch off since Jack changed his mind, especially since I didnt base my vote solely off his read and two she wasn't a civ?

Not to mention I stated a few times she wasnt my top lynch which Is why I switched off once things evened our a bit.

Some of your reasons were crappy. And you had some perfectly good reasons. Overcompensating to justify staying on nutella. Meh. Minor sus.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:42 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:38 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:37 pm Having read over the last two pages, Dys and Dom are my top townreads. Their votes are on people I would like to see lynched.

I got twenty minutes. Lets go.

Expand on this, mr chuck

I got weird vibes from Ted D1, and then he appeared reluctant to address Dizzy's 'scumslip' on him. It wasn't the slip itself that bothered me, but his forced nonchalance about it? Something like that. Lol at her flipping votes, though.

The Mac read is nothing special. I agree with what Jay said about his Dom post, and a few other sentiments expressed in the past two pages.

Dizzy and Dom both seemed like fairly stable, level heads in the thread D1. I like town dizzy and town dom.

Bonus: I don't care to lynch G-man.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:55 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:50 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:44 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:38 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:37 pm Having read over the last two pages, Dys and Dom are my top townreads. Their votes are on people I would like to see lynched.

I got twenty minutes. Lets go.

I actually wanna hear this

There's not much to hear, yo. You give me vibes. Even with this post you give me vibes.

"Someone suspects me!? I LAUGH! Tell me of this inconsequential suspicion, fellow townie, and we'll work it out over tea." It's, just, it doesn't feel genuine.

It comes more from a PoV of me having a civ role and transparently laying out my thoughts, which would make me believe I'm obvious town (I never filter my thoughts) and me never being mislynched in one year of mafia is also contributing towards this. I'd rarely been suspected as town so I have high expectation when such claims occur.

Ok, I got lynched once but that was when I was on a holiday at the sea and I didn't care enough to stress myself

Too calculated a response. Bad.

I mean, if you're seriously genuine here, then you have an ego the size of a train and self-analysis out the butt. It doesn't read like transparently laying out thoughts.

So hey, if you never get mislynched, and we lynch you today, then you must be scum, right? Otherwise you wouldn't get lynched.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:02 pm I would, right now, vote sig, TH, Mac, and anyone who has appealed to emotion. I would murder the emotion right out of this game.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:10 pm So we can start with him.

But I have a hit list, and I'm considering putting you on it.

[VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:10 pm G-man is the player in our midst who I've had the most substantial reason to suspect, but I started to cool on that as yesterday wore on. Without the luxury of the other thread, I can't review his posts for interactions with sabie/radishes/sig right now. If G-man is mafia, I link him directly to Radishes (and the other two by extension), which would make him the Anti-Monitor, which means he begins each day with -2 votes. A player beginning each day with a handicap like that might play differently. Votes are less worrisome, but heavy suspicion is a problem. Does anyone have any thoughts about G-man's viability as that role? I... don't know what that those thoughts would look like in a thread environment where there's no access to past days.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:05 pm [VOTE: michelle] aubergine

Because I lack a read on her.