The Syndicate

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:24 am I do not deserve this win

Actually you deserve it. You started to sound pure and mafia had to kill you

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:19 pm Hey, now I can play in the next GoC

same ^^

Wow, epic ending, good game @Spacedaisy @Lime Coke

Thanks for the game @Thunal33 also I loved the way I died in the sauna

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:45 am

Spoiler: show

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:42 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:09 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:05 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 4:25 pm For Long Con, I don't have the patience to quote:
1. Clearing the Poe is a must. However I want discussions about everyone not just a vote.
2. I am not opening the Poe with you, I still think you are just a villager but Epi instead you means he was more right than you or because the wolves need you to push me further.
3. I want to talk in real time as well, I'll try to be here as much as possible.

When you say you're not opening the Poe, what, in your view, is the current Poe?

Abi is there by default. I don't even know if she is a wolf and she probably is not, but if villa she would be the lylo escape for wolves because they will never kill her if she is not WIMing up

AGREE

Syn has a weird narrow focus on me and tries to make a team based on weak associations which is untrue, the wolves are already distanced by now and being just 2 it's bad to point at associations. Look at how wrong Sig was by saying me and Wilgy are wolves together because we found each other and had similar game solve.

His push on Wilgy was so odd to me, I thought a wolf making that push would be immensely audacious, and when I looked over his past games (which i normally don't do, but his Wilgy push seemed very specific) I didn't find this specific push, but did find similar ones. Like he seemed to want to yeet high posters in at least one game. His "oh well" in the face of Wilgy flipping town for some reason made him townier to me. Since I have been pretty much disagreeing with him across the board, I have also not been paying much attention to the specifics of what he's saying, just putting a town label on him and maybe that's lazy and shortsighted of me.

Brad is so weak this game that I don't know what he is doing, is he waiting for me to post to follow me? Because I was wrong and he did it yday without questioning but I need his inputs if he is villager.

Having seen bad Brad recently, I don't think this Brad looks anything like that. He certainly can change it up, though, so

Roxy feels like she has solving intent. Maybe she can fake it as wolf, I don't have much experience with her, but I liked her vibe all game and I gave her a town read.

I loved her reads list. Someone said something about it like it didn't feel towny, but I townleaned her on that one post. It had that honest solving energy without any people pleasing tone, which i think she tends to adopt when she's bad to some extent.

Svs fits the same area and her posts also have that solving vibe on them.

SVS is in that paranoid phase where she is thinking everyone is bad, and needs to reassess.

So idk what my Poe looks like in this very moment, because I can also point at any of the players to have villagery points and wolfy points and what looked wolfy from everyone including me regarding Sig until now was in fact from villagers.

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:48 am please skip the fake progression and just vote for me, michelle

Write my username with capital letter because it is my name.

You don't even deserve an answer at your posts, nothing you say brings anything positive and helpful.

This list is your POE; you left out Daisy and LC. Are you clear town reading them, or wolf reading them?

Re Daisy; if i had to vote now, I'd vote her agian, tbh. Her reaction to my one person crusade on her didn't feel open or frank, qualities I associate with town Daisy. I want to herar her answer to my question about which parts of LC's case on me were her favorites, and if she still feels that way.

No. I said I forgot about her as NAGL because a wolf is happy when villagers forget about them.

I see no one is pushing her so that's pretty bad as well.

I think Long Con is town.

Why do you say I didn't give an opinion about Daisy?
You say I don't have wolf reads. My top wolf read just flipped town, I try to make a view on everyone
Can you do the same?

Why do you think I asked Roxy and SVS to explain their reads on me? @Long Con

@Lime Coke can you talk about your read on me as well.

I love everyone here

I am walking to the gym, i"ll post later

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:29 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:17 pm For Roxy

Also what's wrong with colour?
It's because it's british?

Thanks Michelle I needed that <3


Yeus bc iut ius Briutiush. LOL Running gag betwixt myself and splints <3

I have to apologise to everyone who speaks this language as native, I don't even know well what's the difference, for me it's just one single english

@Roxy and @S~V~S can you explain to the class your read on me?

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:47 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 3:00 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 11:47 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:30 pm ☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆
☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆ MAFIA! ☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆
☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆

What's the meaning of this post?

It means I had Copied the star for doing an Abi mention, and felt like Pasting it some more while I had it loaded. No relevant meaning to the game.

hahahaha thats what I do! (pasting the star)

My android doesn't have the star.
I copy pasted the name from the poll and added the mention bbcode around.

A true pain on phone.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 11:04 am Also fwiw, my interpretation of what constitutes WIFOM may be different than yours.

My interpretation is talking about what one would or would not do as a specific alignment, and applying that interpretation to one’s current behavior.

So when I talk about WIFOMing one’s way out of something, that’s what I mean. Using would/wouldn’t statements to discount behavior others may find suspicious.

No connection to confirmation bias.

I am slightly confused.
Wifom it's a train of thought who can make you run in circles without finding the correct answer.
What one says they're doing as a specific alignament is self meta. Also, a thing hard to trust.

For Roxy

Also what's wrong with colour?
It's because it's british?

I think it's interesting how this opinion came after I expressed I am concerned about you.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:43 am I have a suspicion that I’ve trusted someone in my town core I shouldn’t have and I’m concerned that someone is Michelle.

I don’t think both SVS and Michelle are wolves together though looking at their interactions today.

Both protect Abi after supposedly going after her previously. Abi doesn’t look good for that.

I still feel like I trust LC and I think Syn reads town based on tone in his interactions with Michelle. I believe he was soft green before too so I just feel stronger in that.

I have zero read on Roxy and Lime Coke and I don’t like it. I’ll ISO Lime Coke tomorrow.

So Syn reads town by tone in the interaction with me.
Can you point out what's villagery in his posts from your pov?
And if he looks towny, what makes me a wolf and why can't we be t/t?

Looking forward to your Lime Coke Iso.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:02 am Oh btw Michelle sign up for Gen 3 Pokemash on MU pls.

The rest of you can join as well if interested I just know Michelle has played the last 2.

Done. I may out though at one moment, if I am too busy.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:49 am I think I need more coffee before I post. Or I need to pay more attention to my spell checker.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:10 am I forgot about Spacedaisy. That's NAGL

Oh here you go. what's NAGL? I've seen it but either forgot or never knew what it stood for.

Not A Good Look

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:43 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:42 am

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:39 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:09 am

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:48 am please skip the fake progression and just vote for me, michelle

Write my username with capital letter because it is my name.

You don't even deserve an answer at your posts, nothing you say brings anything positive and helpful.

what's with this sudden outrageous hostility lol very odd

I take it personal. There's just a small step until my patience vanishes if you keep this way of talking to me

*shrug* okay, you win. peace out

I don't understand what you think I win, I ask for real thoughts from you and you come with a fake solve accusation and the idea to vote for you, also pretend I am suddenly hostile when you were hostile against me since day 1.

The name thing it's general and is making me want to change my username and I will do it at one moment, everyone seems to have a lazyness in writing my name and idk why it bothers me, but it is how it is.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:42 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:09 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:05 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 4:25 pm For Long Con, I don't have the patience to quote:
1. Clearing the Poe is a must. However I want discussions about everyone not just a vote.
2. I am not opening the Poe with you, I still think you are just a villager but Epi instead you means he was more right than you or because the wolves need you to push me further.
3. I want to talk in real time as well, I'll try to be here as much as possible.

When you say you're not opening the Poe, what, in your view, is the current Poe?

Abi is there by default. I don't even know if she is a wolf and she probably is not, but if villa she would be the lylo escape for wolves because they will never kill her if she is not WIMing up

AGREE

Syn has a weird narrow focus on me and tries to make a team based on weak associations which is untrue, the wolves are already distanced by now and being just 2 it's bad to point at associations. Look at how wrong Sig was by saying me and Wilgy are wolves together because we found each other and had similar game solve.

His push on Wilgy was so odd to me, I thought a wolf making that push would be immensely audacious, and when I looked over his past games (which i normally don't do, but his Wilgy push seemed very specific) I didn't find this specific push, but did find similar ones. Like he seemed to want to yeet high posters in at least one game. His "oh well" in the face of Wilgy flipping town for some reason made him townier to me. Since I have been pretty much disagreeing with him across the board, I have also not been paying much attention to the specifics of what he's saying, just putting a town label on him and maybe that's lazy and shortsighted of me.

Brad is so weak this game that I don't know what he is doing, is he waiting for me to post to follow me? Because I was wrong and he did it yday without questioning but I need his inputs if he is villager.

Having seen bad Brad recently, I don't think this Brad looks anything like that. He certainly can change it up, though, so

Roxy feels like she has solving intent. Maybe she can fake it as wolf, I don't have much experience with her, but I liked her vibe all game and I gave her a town read.

I loved her reads list. Someone said something about it like it didn't feel towny, but I townleaned her on that one post. It had that honest solving energy without any people pleasing tone, which i think she tends to adopt when she's bad to some extent.

Svs fits the same area and her posts also have that solving vibe on them.

SVS is in that paranoid phase where she is thinking everyone is bad, and needs to reassess.

So idk what my Poe looks like in this very moment, because I can also point at any of the players to have villagery points and wolfy points and what looked wolfy from everyone including me regarding Sig until now was in fact from villagers.

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:48 am please skip the fake progression and just vote for me, michelle

Write my username with capital letter because it is my name.

You don't even deserve an answer at your posts, nothing you say brings anything positive and helpful.

This list is your POE; you left out Daisy and LC. Are you clear town reading them, or wolf reading them?

Re Daisy; if i had to vote now, I'd vote her agian, tbh. Her reaction to my one person crusade on her didn't feel open or frank, qualities I associate with town Daisy. I want to herar her answer to my question about which parts of LC's case on me were her favorites, and if she still feels that way.

No. I said I forgot about her as NAGL because a wolf is happy when villagers forget about them.

I see no one is pushing her so that's pretty bad as well.

I think Long Con is town.

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:39 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:09 am

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:48 am please skip the fake progression and just vote for me, michelle

Write my username with capital letter because it is my name.

You don't even deserve an answer at your posts, nothing you say brings anything positive and helpful.

what's with this sudden outrageous hostility lol very odd

I take it personal. There's just a small step until my patience vanishes if you keep this way of talking to me

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:28 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:26 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:16 am I'm waiting for you to say your reads because I'm making sure you're still solving so I can still townread you. You spent majority of SOD telling others what to do so I was interested in if you had opinions.

No, that's bad.
I need you to not question me but solve with me.
My reads are under construction anyway.

Well I caught you when you were wolf last time (though I hesitated) because you weren't solving once Day 2 hit so I was making sure to keep that townread in tact.

I'm not gonna blindly keep the read I'm still gonna nudge you if I notice something.

Talk to me about everyone pls. When you have time to be here? My best play time will be in 5 hours approx. Or in 9 hours from now on.

Also go to sleep smh

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:16 am I'm waiting for you to say your reads because I'm making sure you're still solving so I can still townread you. You spent majority of SOD telling others what to do so I was interested in if you had opinions.

No, that's bad.
I need you to not question me but solve with me.
My reads are under construction anyway.

I forgot about Spacedaisy. That's NAGL

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:05 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 4:25 pm For Long Con, I don't have the patience to quote:
1. Clearing the Poe is a must. However I want discussions about everyone not just a vote.
2. I am not opening the Poe with you, I still think you are just a villager but Epi instead you means he was more right than you or because the wolves need you to push me further.
3. I want to talk in real time as well, I'll try to be here as much as possible.

When you say you're not opening the Poe, what, in your view, is the current Poe?

Abi is there by default. I don't even know if she is a wolf and she probably is not, but if villa she would be the lylo escape for wolves because they will never kill her if she is not WIMing up

Syn has a weird narrow focus on me and tries to make a team based on weak associations which is untrue, the wolves are already distanced by now and being just 2 it's bad to point at associations. Look at how wrong Sig was by saying me and Wilgy are wolves together because we found each other and had similar game solve.

Brad is so weak this game that I don't know what he is doing, is he waiting for me to post to follow me? Because I was wrong and he did it yday without questioning but I need his inputs if he is villager.

Roxy feels like she has solving intent. Maybe she can fake it as wolf, I don't have much experience with her, but I liked her vibe all game and I gave her a town read.

Svs fits the same area and her posts also have that solving vibe on them.

So idk what my Poe looks like in this very moment, because I can also point at any of the players to have villagery points and wolfy points and what looked wolfy from everyone including me regarding Sig until now was in fact from villagers.

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:48 am please skip the fake progression and just vote for me, michelle

Write my username with capital letter because it is my name.

You don't even deserve an answer at your posts, nothing you say brings anything positive and helpful.

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 5:53 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 6:55 am

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:01 am methinks the team is roxy/michelle

[VOTE: roxy] aubergine

I haven't gotten any further, so sorry if you explain later; do you still feel this way, and why?

This is where my catch up for this AM ends, sorry for all the posts. Easier than a wall.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 2:58 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:01 am methinks the team is roxy/michelle

[VOTE: roxy] aubergine

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:34 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:31 pm I get the sense that Roxy is gedna.

I'm going to trust Epi with that.

This was a hilarious way to start reading up. Syn, why is that the team?

they treat each other with kiddie gloves. roxy's ISO evolves to exclusively revolve around propping up michelle as a paragon of towniness without any reads of her own, and then some busywork patting abigail on the back.

I'm not sure I can say anything about Michelle that will be taken seriously since she can just point to my early D1 scum read and say it's a tunnel and that I was just as wrong about Wilgy. But in general her posting has felt the most agenda driven, and where she usually nitpicks everyone's vote and reads, she has conspicuously entirely ignored both of my roxy votes d2 and today*. not even a whisper of a mention. just a vague reference that she has to re-ISO me to judge my alignment.

*not entirely true, she indirectly dismissed it by saying that top-poster thread-leader epi was NKed because he was singlehandedly town-clearing roxy because of a single post using simlish and the wolves absolutely could not stand for such a threat to their hegemony

When on earth i said Epi was top poster?
I said Wilgy was top poster and you mix things up.

I have news for you, the world doesn't revolve around you so I had nothing to point about your off wagon vote on Roxy on D2.

Making associative reads to fit your imaginary world but saying Daisy/you world means mischops is not what shows you are town, neither your tunnel is, so give me more than luke warm reads.

For Long Con, I don't have the patience to quote:
1. Clearing the Poe is a must. However I want discussions about everyone not just a vote.
2. I am not opening the Poe with you, I still think you are just a villager but Epi instead you means he was more right than you or because the wolves need you to push me further.
3. I want to talk in real time as well, I'll try to be here as much as possible.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:30 pm ☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆
☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆ MAFIA! ☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆
☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆

What's the meaning of this post?

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:59 pm anyway

that's enough for me D1

see ya

Usually we lynch all liars.
What can we do for someone telling the truth?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:07 am Eh SVS feels fine still.

That's what I thought while reading as well.

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 4:31 am okay I pressed it what now

Explain your suspicions

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 2:34 am Like we're at mid game here what are you thinking right now Michelle?

I'm going to the gym and think at the game later

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 1:57 am Like I'm not giving up I'm still pushing forward with things but I'm actually at a point where I don't know what to do? I'm starting to realize that mid-game I have a hard time moving around with reads and evaluating there, normally start of games and endgames I'm good the middle I'm stuck.

Mid game means teamwork and working with town reads gives you the possibility to recheck them, check all other reads, question everything, etc
Look at pushes, pocket attempts and reread from the game start. Votes, reasons of voting, claimed intention vs the game behaviour, all of these can give clues, but there can be false positives as well.
Everything is in the thread, but it requires actual work of investigation.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 2:20 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:54 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:47 am Vote: Syn

And the mate? Who would be your guess?

I don't try to pair I think it's too easy to make yourself look unpaired from people and wolfs get away cause people ask this question and can't find anything and go nah can't be wolfs

That's fair.

Who is independently wolfy then?

At the high resistance to chop her D1 I stopped to care about her alignament that much. I will just point at everyone who got cold feet and saved her.
Everyone who sheeped the anti Wilgy trend let me without my top town.

You just shrug and say you don't understand the kill.
Let's look at Syn and the reason why Abi votes for him
Why Epi and not Long Con?
I know why not me, because I was wrong.
And not you because of your defeatist attitude. Get rid of it and help me pls.

What questions do you have?
@Lime Coke

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 1:06 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:23 am [VOTE: abby] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:24 pm [VOTE: neon] aubergine



Someone tag Abi, and tell her she's been voted. Doesn't work on mobile for me

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:35 pm Gedna: S~V~S, Michelle, Long Con
Bradna: Syn, PA, sig

I don't think Syn's treatment of Wilgy was in good faith, and Syn's posts since exist to leave as many nebulous doors open as possible.

PA normally squirts juice at everyone and posts a lot.

Still think sig is bad.

Middle of page 9. Taking a break and will check back in before the votes lock.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 1:29 am Lynch sig and PA is my current stance. They are bradna. I'll finish reading tomorrow.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:57 am [VOTE: PA] aubergine

Still 9 pages behind. I will be able to get to those tomorrow. Sul sul bitches.

Literally the only read these two share is scumreading Abbi.

The rest of Falcon's sus's are dead.

What is happening?

Idk, Abi becoming top predator without posting?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:49 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:46 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:45 am Okay night kills are throwing me off slightly.

Why?

Didn't think Epi was widely townread to the point of like you or I where we're not receiving any votes.

Exactly. Who town read Epi? Mafia should have the impression he is unchoppable and they TMIed him town or didn't push him.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:47 am Vote: Syn

And the mate? Who would be your guess?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:48 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:31 pm I get the sense that Roxy is gedna.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:35 pm Gedna: S~V~S, Michelle, Long Con
Bradna: Syn, PA, sig

I don't think Syn's treatment of Wilgy was in good faith, and Syn's posts since exist to leave as many nebulous doors open as possible.

PA normally squirts juice at everyone and posts a lot.

Still think sig is bad.

Middle of page 9. Taking a break and will check back in before the votes lock.

I...don't think gedna means scumread? Seeing that he was voting Sig and Sig was in the other spot.

Bradna was bad, gedna is good, but you should Google if you are on pc

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:42 am

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:01 am methinks the team is roxy/michelle

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:34 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:31 pm I get the sense that Roxy is gedna.

I'm going to trust Epi with that.

it's amazing, really

It is, isn't it?
The wolves maybe killed him because he was taking away a mischop from them.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:45 am Okay night kills are throwing me off slightly.

Why?

I am going to question Syn's alignament while back reading and check if his stances does not come from tmi perspective.

Brad seems lost so still in town reads, @Lime Coke I need you to talk to me if you are a villager.

Abigail should be D1 chopped and no one discussed her D2 seriously. My impression is the same, she can go either way and belongs to the Poe.

Long Con was everyone's top villager so him being alive is a huge question mark for me.

I like Daisy's vibe.

I need more from both @Roxy and @S~V~S

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:31 pm I get the sense that Roxy is gedna.

I'm going to trust Epi with that.
I have to check something and I have the suspicion that my Poe is completely off.

I hope we will have a more acrive day and everyone will read the thread because otherwise it's a shot in the dark.

I am not sorry because I was wrong, it's not the first time and since I want to play mafia in the future, it's not the last. However I would like from @sig anything as an answer and that never came.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:24 pm I just have low wim theres ways to push me for content but voting me isn't it and refusing to actually engage me in anything but reprimanding me also ain't giving me wim back

Who.do you think would kill Epi?

Sorry for the wall everyone, @Long Con it took me some time.

Now i'm

Firstly, I want to spoiler things because it's hard to read anyway

sig wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:53 pm

Spoiler: show

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:15 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:48 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:07 pm I have to go make dinner, I'll be back shortly to vote and finsih reading back.

And tbh, I would consider a vote for Abbi if she doesn't come back and try a little. Not so much becasue I think she's bad (I have no clue), or that she owes us anything, like trying, but becasue I don't think she wants to be here.

So if she comes back and acts like she wants to be here, I'll vote elsewhere. But if I do vote for her, I'll prolly stay up late to see if she shows up.

I know this isn't the towniest thing to say, but

if this is true, I'm not sure we're doing a good job of incentivizing her to want to be here. assuming you are right, and she comes into this thread and catches up, do you think she has a reason to stay?

I don’t think Abbi finds her motivation in what people say about her in game threads. I think if she’s not into it, it has nothing to do with us.

But I’d rather vote for actual suspicions, and give Abbi another day to saunter in here and shake juice boxes at us.

So having read back over sig, I was struck by his remark that Michelle was looking for a place to vote rather than solving.

This better applies to him imo.

So imma vote sig. I’ll pop back before I go to bed.

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

Michelle vote for Abi is 100% trying to find a place to vote, her reaction to my light pressuring is scummy, and the insistence that we should go after low posters while saying she isn’t going to try hard D2 and just sheep the town core is just flat out bad.

If everyone else thinks she’s good I won’t push it, it just means she’s got a bad approach but what I’m seeing is mafia trying to be part of the town core.

This is the post he made after his vote on Wilgy.
I don't remember ever saying I will not try hard D2.
The pinkish part is wishy washy and non commital.
The blue part is a lie, because my reaction to his push was never scummy and he didn't want to talk to me about anything.

sig wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:51 pm Imma vote [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

Both my wagon and the Abi wagons are dumb and based off very little. Which means to me they’re bad D1 wagons and mafia are probably on one or both

I understand (like I said) his self press vote. But he choose a solvy player who pushed him instead voting Abi who is still not posting anything useful.
Also this kind of makes me think Abi is town if I am right and Sig is a wolf

Now let's see how things happened ISOing me:

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:09 am I can't vote Sig, he didn't show any ill intent

I said I had a weak, idiotic reason, to not vote Sig D1
My stance shows I was null on him, and I didn't want to sheep Epi who said Sig was bad (in spoiler) after just few debatable posts from Sig

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:11 am I love this game

I could catch up so fast ^^

Sig and Abi are very different players. Abi is usually a compulsive poster, both can have low activity from irl stuff and that's ok.
But Abi didn't have a real reaction at the votes on her. Eating them is not something to get more than
1. A careless attitude
2. Faking a careless attitude.

Of course, the wagon is more a meme now, since everyone knows it's not something happening by default.
I do appreciate the answers.
The thread feels towny, as it should, because town has 10 players.

This was my case on Abi. Like my all posts, it contains my mind in simple words. There's not an active push against Abi, it's just my opinion that she should be voted out.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:32 pm That post implying Epi is town is pretty bad, can you explain if I get it right?
@sig do you town read Epignosis? and why?

I didn't find an answer at this question. He avoided it.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:34 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:39 pm So far not much content.

Epi isn’t joking around D1 that’s a bit of a ping
Michelle is being active, but not in a towny way so that’s a slight ping.


Wilgy and Syn both get a town lean.

Tell me more pls about me not being towny. Quotes would help

I asked for details here to check if his conclusion about my play is genuine

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:04 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:46 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:32 pm That post implying Epi is town is pretty bad, can you explain if I get it right?
@sig do you town read Epignosis? and why?

I personally do not have enough posts to read Epi one way or the other, how about you?

No, i have no read rn

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:48 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:55 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:39 pm So far not much content.

Epi isn’t joking around D1 that’s a bit of a ping
Michelle is being active, but not in a towny way so that’s a slight ping.


Wilgy and Syn both get a town lean.

How would you describe/define Michelle's activity as not being towny?





It's one thing to say, but what does it actually mean

thats a lot of work for day 1.

She seems to be looking for reasons to vote people rather than trying to solve the game.

There’s also some tone reasons as well. I’m usually pretty good at reading her and here she just doesn’t seem very Civvie

What's the difference between a pressure vote and solving?
We didn't play enough to know how to read me tonally, so I don't understand this meta take here.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:51 pm My newest theory is that Michelle and Wilgy are mafia together.

It’s very odd how quickly Wilgy jumped on that read and then proceeded to vote for me.

And you think we are both so bad at the game that you figured things out so easy.

I honestly think he is town, as well as Brad and Long Con, and I liked Roxy as town lean as well.
These are people I am not going to vote toDay even if the reads are not solid yet.

Abigail didn't show any solving intent. My vote stays.

My answer at his push, what he said it was scummy.
I posted my reads and I had a clear opinion about the chop.
I don't know if I can be townier, because my defence on my town reads and the desire to clear the Poe are what define my play always.
The yellow part, where he says I am not solving, it's fake, I had a town core and reads in progress.
The purple part contains meta he doesn’t know.
My play changed, my motivation to play changed, and the way I see the game also changed
Sig didn't have time to notice all that in Goc and Fallout, and my games on site last year are 3 iirc.
His take here looked and still looks like fake meta to me.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:06 pm @sig tell me about good and bad 'hmm'
What gives your takes?

I was asking about the hmm interpretations, why bother if I didn't want to solve?

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:09 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:06 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:04 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:46 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:32 pm That post implying Epi is town is pretty bad, can you explain if I get it right?
@sig do you town read Epignosis? and why?

I personally do not have enough posts to read Epi one way or the other, how about you?

No, i have no read rn

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:48 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:55 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:39 pm So far not much content.

Epi isn’t joking around D1 that’s a bit of a ping
Michelle is being active, but not in a towny way so that’s a slight ping.


Wilgy and Syn both get a town lean.

How would you describe/define Michelle's activity as not being towny?





It's one thing to say, but what does it actually mean

thats a lot of work for day 1.

She seems to be looking for reasons to vote people rather than trying to solve the game.

There’s also some tone reasons as well. I’m usually pretty good at reading her and here she just doesn’t seem very Civvie

What's the difference between a pressure vote and solving?
We didn't play enough to know how to read me tonally, so I don't understand this meta take here.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:51 pm My newest theory is that Michelle and Wilgy are mafia together.

It’s very odd how quickly Wilgy jumped on that read and then proceeded to vote for me.

And you think we are both so bad at the game that you figured things out so easy.

I honestly think he is town, as well as Brad and Long Con, and I liked Roxy as town lean as well.
These are people I am not going to vote toDay even if the reads are not solid yet.

Abigail didn't show any solving intent. My vote stays.

I 100% disagree that we haven’t played enough for this, also even ignoring that your response to a single person calling you mafia and not even pushing it is telling. You’re acting like mafia that was caught for a dumb/not real reason and is now annoyed.

Also the vote for Abi has some very weak reasoning.

You decide you know how to read me because?
You pretend I am acting like mafia, I want to read more about your thoughts.

I am never annoyed. I am just curious.

The blue part

After deciding I am mafia with Wilgy, read that stayed frozen until Eod, Sig adds at the push the fact I didn't Omgus him as a wolf trait from my part.
I fail to understand how I acted like annoyed mafia, and tjis accusation it's just another invention from Sig

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:14 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:09 pm Falcon, Long con, SVS, and Roxy are all town leans for me.

Falcon is being more active than I’d expect D1 mafia to be.
Long con and SVS are gut reads mainly.
Roxy has her civvie idgaf get out of my way vibe

Interesting, you agree with my reads except Wilgy.
Adding Falcon, who's alignament isn't showed by activity.
And SVS, who is a pretty scary wolf and and I have no idea why your gut is telling you she is a town lean.

Otoh, when you commit to a non lean read, pls ping me with it

We had a similar town core, I said it, I didn't find an answer at this.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:16 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:07 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:06 pm @sig tell me about good and bad 'hmm'
What gives your takes?

Wilgy is being mean to me and Syn isn’t

That's a joke, right?

How can anyone post that as a real read? Again, I don't remember answer.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:17 pm @sig did you explain why you said Epi can win the game for you? Link me the post, I didn't find it

No answer.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:06 pm Looking at sig/falcon, I like sig over falcon here. On one hand, falcon's got an aggressive expectation that sig's posts should be more wolf-paranoid, but it looks like a level 9 response to a couple of level 1 posts. Disproportionate. On the other hand, it might be just what Day 1 needs.

Btw Long Con, you liked Sig back then over Falcon, but I don't understand your post at all.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:20 pm

Spoiler: show

Wilgy, something is fishy with this.

I snipped some of the irrelevant parts of this quote out, for clarity.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:44 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:40 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 1:34 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:39 pm So far not much content.

Epi isn’t joking around D1 that’s a bit of a ping
Michelle is being active, but not in a towny way so that’s a slight ping.


Wilgy and Syn both get a town lean.

Damn, this is a wolf.

[VOTE: Sig] aubergine

3/4 of these opinions aren't Sig certified thoughts tm.

Sig giving me a tl lmao

I'm not sure what constitutes "sig certified thoughts ™ " can you clarify what makes them not sig certified ™

3/4
Epi being wolf is an idea I threw out
Wilgy being town is an idea that Michelle threw out.
Syn being town is an idea that Brad threw out.

How do you resolve attacking sig for sheeping his t!Syn idea from Brad, calling him a wolf for it, but then:

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 1:55 pm Brad and Sig both vouching for Syn is reason enough to pull from D1 PoE.

... you speak like your respect for these opinions is enough for you to change the Gameplan A PoE?

That’s the start of LCs push on Wilgy

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:53 pm

Spoiler: show

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:20 pm Wilgy, something is fishy with this.

I snipped some of the irrelevant parts of this quote out, for clarity.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:44 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:40 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 1:34 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:39 pm So far not much content.

Epi isn’t joking around D1 that’s a bit of a ping
Michelle is being active, but not in a towny way so that’s a slight ping.


Wilgy and Syn both get a town lean.

Damn, this is a wolf.

[VOTE: Sig] aubergine

3/4 of these opinions aren't Sig certified thoughts tm.

Sig giving me a tl lmao

I'm not sure what constitutes "sig certified thoughts ™ " can you clarify what makes them not sig certified ™

3/4
Epi being wolf is an idea I threw out
Wilgy being town is an idea that Michelle threw out.
Syn being town is an idea that Brad threw out.

How do you resolve attacking sig for sheeping his t!Syn idea from Brad, calling him a wolf for it, but then:

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 1:55 pm Brad and Sig both vouching for Syn is reason enough to pull from D1 PoE.

... you speak like your respect for these opinions is enough for you to change the Gameplan A PoE?

So my issue was never with what Sig did or didn't disagree with, nor was it making reads on the backs of others as that's a natural thing to do.

It was very much declaring the reads as if they were fresh off the brain, when 3 out of the 4, then later 4 out of the 5 were all things stated previously. It all comes across as an effort to add to the thread but not in a way that feels organic. I do think if ANY of the thought process Sig had, that looked similar to others, were organic, they would've had some thought process behind them showing that they did originate from town logic within their head, OR that they came from other players and they were stances of agreement disagreement.

The quote of mine you pulled comes from my civ mind, based on two players voice and I did attempt my best to indicate where the thought originated from. Sig I think skipped that step.

This shows Wilgy's mindset and the coloured is what he thought of Sig back then

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:55 pm

Spoiler: show

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:16 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:07 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:06 pm @sig tell me about good and bad 'hmm'
What gives your takes?

Wilgy is being mean to me and Syn isn’t

This kinda reads town sig to me, though.

lol implying wolf Sig wouldn't say this

Agree with that.


Now this is from Sig's Iso

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:39 pm So far not much content.

Epi isn’t joking around D1 that’s a bit of a ping
Michelle is being active, but not in a towny way so that’s a slight ping.


Wilgy and Syn both get a town lean.

Shade on me, TL on Wilgy.
He started to push Wilgy as Omgus probably

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:48 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:55 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:39 pm So far not much content.

Epi isn’t joking around D1 that’s a bit of a ping
Michelle is being active, but not in a towny way so that’s a slight ping.


Wilgy and Syn both get a town lean.

How would you describe/define Michelle's activity as not being towny?





It's one thing to say, but what does it actually mean

thats a lot of work for day 1.

She seems to be looking for reasons to vote people rather than trying to solve the game.

There’s also some tone reasons as well. I’m usually pretty good at reading her and here she just doesn’t seem very Civvie

What Sig did with this post was to start a push and see if anyone agrees with it. He didn't receive good feedback from his town reads.
Wouldn't a townie try to understand the players he consider town?

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:51 pm My newest theory is that Michelle and Wilgy are mafia together.

It’s very odd how quickly Wilgy jumped on that read and then proceeded to vote for me.

But after Wilgy started to push him, he jumped with a theory.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:06 pm

Spoiler: show

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:04 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:46 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:32 pm That post implying Epi is town is pretty bad, can you explain if I get it right?
@sig do you town read Epignosis? and why?

I personally do not have enough posts to read Epi one way or the other, how about you?

No, i have no read rn

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:48 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:55 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:39 pm So far not much content.

Epi isn’t joking around D1 that’s a bit of a ping
Michelle is being active, but not in a towny way so that’s a slight ping.


Wilgy and Syn both get a town lean.

How would you describe/define Michelle's activity as not being towny?





It's one thing to say, but what does it actually mean

thats a lot of work for day 1.

She seems to be looking for reasons to vote people rather than trying to solve the game.

There’s also some tone reasons as well. I’m usually pretty good at reading her and here she just doesn’t seem very Civvie

What's the difference between a pressure vote and solving?
We didn't play enough to know how to read me tonally, so I don't understand this meta take here.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:51 pm My newest theory is that Michelle and Wilgy are mafia together.

It’s very odd how quickly Wilgy jumped on that read and then proceeded to vote for me.

And you think we are both so bad at the game that you figured things out so easy.

I honestly think he is town, as well as Brad and Long Con, and I liked Roxy as town lean as well.
These are people I am not going to vote toDay even if the reads are not solid yet.

Abigail didn't show any solving intent. My vote stays.

I 100% disagree that we haven’t played enough for this, also even ignoring that your response to a single person calling you mafia and not even pushing it is telling. You’re acting like mafia that was caught for a dumb/not real reason and is now annoyed.

Also the vote for Abi has some very weak reasoning.

We really didn't play enough lately.
The rest is wifom

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:01 pm

Spoiler: show

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:59 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:51 pm My newest theory is that Michelle and Wilgy are mafia together.

It’s very odd how quickly Wilgy jumped on that read and then proceeded to vote for me.

hmm

This isn’t a good hmm so I’ll give you 2

This is forced imo

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:07 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:06 pm @sig tell me about good and bad 'hmm'
What gives your takes?

Wilgy is being mean to me and Syn isn’t

Here he is whimsical, not logical.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:09 pm Falcon, Long con, SVS, and Roxy are all town leans for me.

Falcon is being more active than I’d expect D1 mafia to be.
Long con and SVS are gut reads mainly.
Roxy has her civvie idgaf get out of my way vibe

Except Long Con his other town reads read me town.
I didn't notice from him a question of why that happens

sig wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:29 pm I 100% agree with Syn I’m flabbergasted that Abbi not being here = mafia when that isn’t her meta and the reasons for voting for her started as a joke.

I’m also not a fan of pursuing low posting players just for them not being around on D1

I think this post is honest because he is sometimes so busy that he can't play, but also doesn't explain the turn to Wilgy and me without trying to solve us by other means than bad pushes

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 1:37 pm I still can't believe you said that.

Two posts after I craft a multi-quote response at your request, and because I didn't carve out a slice to respond to your first sentence SPECIFICALLY, I get called not nice?


You needed me to specifically respond to this?? "@Long Con despite your read on me who has a paranoia like accent, I think your nitpicky posts this game come from town you."

I need you to look deeper than paranoia.

Give me time to explain you why Sig's case on me is wolfy and why I consider you could notice it. I think I picked up 30 quotes

Also you said I didn't answer to your reads when I said I don't have time to post, that's why I said you didn't read.
Sorry if it comes across as harsh, because it wasn't my intention.

Yeah, highly appreciating the colours show above.

I said I wll enjoy my day irl, which I did.

Also I said your view over my play seems paranoid, isn't it?

It's nice to ignore people's posts like that?

Also I am busy and enjoying RL

See you late before I go to sleep

@Long Con despite your read on me who has a paranoia like accent, I think your nitpicky posts this game come from town you.
I understand you made associations very early in the game, reading Wilgy mafia after his interaction with Sig.

Can you tell me what was towny about Sig D1?

VC

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:18 pm

Spoiler: show

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 4:27 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 2:16 am

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:54 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:48 am

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:47 am wilgy knows in a battle of wim he'll always out-class me, since I don't duel with wall-posts and structured paragraphs

but this is him wolfing

What's the difference between Wilgy town and Wilgy wolf?

I know this is the current modus operandi of mafia on MU and TS, where everything boils down to claims that we know the differences between someone being town and wolf because people are reliably consistent and they only ever do x as town and y as wolf, but I should inform you and probably everyone else that I'm not going to engage in an argument about meta, because it's not reliable, it's rarely true, and people hide in it all the time

wilgy is a wolf because he's establishing an agenda/worldview that everyone else is now rotating around. he's set the terms and conditions for everyone else's casing, their arguments. he's set it up so that there's uncontested wolf-claims against people who are just outright afk, and then set up easy mischops for later days by picking holes in every little thing someone says with posts that pretend at reason, both of which will be looked at by others as Villager Effort and as a reason to wolf-read the people he nitpicked

Now that you know it's Wilgy town, and you can reverse the polarity on this negative read, what do you think of Wilgy's 'worldview/agenda'?

it's still not great tbh. him being town and also pushing that world/approach confuses me, unless he had some kind of plan to switcheroo in the following days

of course, him picking holes in every little thing someone says, as a villager, would be useful now/later

Ok. I get this view on Wilgy's posts, and I didn't disagree. It wasn't the reason I voted for him, but more like "if he's bad, this is not a trap we want to fall into". I voted for him because of his weird self-contradiction about sig, and I still don't understand how he came up with that stuff honestly. Point is, there was more than one valid reason to suspect him.

What exactly was that contradiction you are talking about?

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:18 pm That's why an exchange like the following one, where they're discussing Wilgy's yeet, is a huge stretch:

Spoiler: show

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:25 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 4:36 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:58 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:05 am That's egregious

I know, right?

Even I knew Wilgy was town and I read like 3 pages

He was the person most actively solving.

Not liking someone’s philosophy of how mafia should be played doesn’t make them bad .

If Daisy had time to read enough to change from her null-ish stance on Wilgy to voting him out, then she had time to post her vote at the very least.

I could also vote for sig again tbh.

Let's put aside the level of gall it takes to not play, not even vote, and then come in and berate us for voting a guy with more than one strike against him. Here's the thing: hindsight is 20/20. Yup, Wilgy was obviously town... as of the point his role was revealed. Let's not act like we haven't seen Wolf Wilgy absolutely snow everyone into believing he's obvious town, including all three of you.

The point is, you can't chop someone because they can fool you, because in this case I think you should be the next candidate to be voted out.
If think every villager who voted Wilgy took the fear path because it looked the easiest, and didn't look at the game as a whole.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:18 pm We've got Michelle, S~V~S, and Abi all wringing their hands and lamenting how this could have happened, and I'll be shocked if there is not a Wolf in that group.

Michelle is sticking to a loose WIFOM against Syn and sig based on their suspicion of her and Wilgy, and she once again poured on the extra "but Wilgy was so obvious town" to try and bolster the suspicion, which I don't like. So, continuing her Day 1 stance. @Michelle voted for Abi and came close to getting her eliminated yesterday, but today it's friendly talk and softball questions. What is your real stance on her? You are not treating her like someone you suspect today. Actually, what's your opinion on Roxy, you said you won't let her down, does that mean that you think she's Town?

I don't know how Abi flips, but I don't agree to let her be resolved close to or in lylo.
And yes, I think Roxy is town.
Also yes, if you think I am lamenting, i am doing it.
So what?
My solve is linked with the bad cases Sig posted against Wilgy and against me.
He was pretending he can read me, which I know it's not correct and is a way for wolves to push or pocket me. I gave him time and went against Abi but unfortunately town followed Sig and voted Wilgy. In those 5 votes we have at least 3 townies.

The coloured text: Abi deserved the chop and she was saved for a reason if she is town - she belongs to the Poe and the wolves will let her alive until late to have a free mischop.
The best day to clear the Poe of an inactive is D1.

Your wording is weird, it's like you read her town, or something? What gives you the read?
Also that post when I answered 'I know right' was a joke.
Why do you pretend it's more than that?

I didn't trust your case on Wilgy (proof is, I forgot about it and I need you to explain me again what was about.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:18 pm Abi is just...

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:17 am Bad news I'm never gonna be found. Really should've solved me D1

Abi, I enjoy playing with you when you're here, but it's time to make some hard choices, and I think it goes like this: a) get WIM, get playing, b) get replaced, c) get yeeted. There's no shame in choosing option b) if that's what it takes, but your personal forecast there is frustrating.

S~V~S is my top choice of the three as wolf. She voted off the Wilgy wagon:

sig 3 Voters: falcon45ca, S~V~S, DrWilgy

... along with two confirmed Town. She came in here today ready to berate Wilgy voters, and dive right on to the Lowest Hanging Fruit, Spacedaisy, for her stealth Wilgy vote. Lime Coke made the exact same vote, and you haven't even questioned him about it, even though when Daisy did it, it's damning. I get that voting without posting is not ever a good look, but is that good evidence of a wolf? You acknowledged that it's not the greatest move for a Wolf to make, but then decided you still believe it.

And... I just plain don't believe this: "I reread Wilgy to see if there was anything that could have changed her mind from "meh" to voting him, and I couldn't find it." So, you're saying you attempted reread Wilgy's progression through Day 1 from Daisy's perspective somehow to find the point where she most likely decided she suspects him?

Yeah right. There's no way you did that, you're posting fake busywork to look towny. Why would you even bother doing that, we have two days and the answer you're looking for will almost certainly come to light unless Daisy has simply abandoned the game.

[VOTE: S~V~S] aubergine

I want to know your complete reads Long Con, the case looks compelling for Sig but I can see a civvie SVS upset at a hidden vote so close to Eod.
Why is she a wolf if she was voting Sig with 2 flipped villagers, this is a logical fallacy.
Also you can't put equality between Brad and Daisy, maybe they voted the same, but one posted all day trying to solve and voted in the open, the other was low poster but came at Eod voting just in the poll.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:39 am I signed up when I had wim

Do you have any reads?

Dw Roxy, I am not letting you down!