The Syndicate

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:39 pm
Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:35 pm How6much do people buss teammates here?
Depends on the person. I love to do it.

Looking at the wagons atm, do you know anyone who would do that easily?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:38 pm
Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:35 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:34 pm
Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:25 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:23 pm gl if you guise are taking arete to F3
What would happen if the F3 is LC, wilgy and Epignosis? Hmm..
prolly vote LC
I think that makes somewhat sense. Epi can be town.
You townread Epi because of tedxtr's opinion?

I would not even trust him with a half eaten chocolate bar.

I think epi can be town based on their progression on 112 and a few things which made me think can come from town.

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:35 pm
Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:31 pm
Poison Chan wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:33 am What did 112 do in the game so far?

- Called out two widely TRed players scum early on. Instantly said they both cannot be scum together.
- Called the entire player list scum throughout the game, a few at a time, or a lot at a time. [Her ISO is full of it]
- No reasons were given to most of their reads, mostly all naked “X is such alignment” post and afterwards becoming diplomatic on those reads.
- Reasons for reads/votes were given only when asked specifically or more than once.
- The votes casted by them were rather random, and were explained poorly [as I believe] upon asking her.

What she did so far in this game seems really very scummy to me. Now, there’s one thing called playing style and there’s this other thing called playing safe , playing for town creds, playing in such a way that you can both save or buss your teammates, in other words a more balanced out reads throughout the game, which is very very prominent, I mean just look at her ISO once, for god's sake.

First, let’s talk about her reasons for her reads, if you take, Vulgard’s suss early on, that read is forced and was given for the sake of it. In a scenario, let’s say, Vulgard is indeed scum, 112 walks in calling him out as an obvious scum. Her reason was he is repeating his statements/points.
1. I don’t think Vul actually repeated much than any usual player trying to talk to people about their reads.
2. Vulgard, by no means, were “obvious scum” if one at all.
3. The tone of her reason, seems a bit awkward and idk forced,or at least that’s how it sounds in my mind, never straight or strong or convincing enough.

Secondly, she calls me wolf, her reason for calling me wolf was quoted with a post of mine replying to vulgard about how I town read him cause I know where he’s coming from. So here 112 she says, how I come to form a town read on vul from prior justification and a few tidbits, which all related to my read on vul [of course no mention of how our interaction proceeded for me to come to that conclusion], having that as a reason she scum reads me. In the next line she says poison/vul ain’t w/w.

This whole thing in my opinion and from experience in a previous game is a tactic to get town cred easy. Calling out widely Tred people scum is not a wolf’s play, unless really skilled, she is skilled.

Additionally, her progression on Mich is the weirdest of all, and mostly flipflopping, as if she is ready to take up any direction any moment in the game, be it for reading her or voting her. In case of TSP though, she mentions that she would like to join the TSP wagon if possible, the TSP wagon was formed and thriving till EoD, but at EoD, her vote was on LC, a single vote on LC.

Beside all of these, just just read her ISO, neither did she do anything which is worth calling scum hunting, neither did she clarify her reads, she literally called the "entire" playerslist scum, all diplomatic views and reads and oh my god she is just scum and I'm literally blinded by her ISO and her post. Just read her ISO just do that or like convince me why she is town...

Thanks.

That's my town game tbh.

I don't know what to say to this tbh.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:34 pm
Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:25 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:23 pm gl if you guise are taking arete to F3
What would happen if the F3 is LC, wilgy and Epignosis? Hmm..
prolly vote LC

I think that makes somewhat sense. Epi can be town.

How6much do people buss teammates here?

Wilgy, are you town, sir?

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:33 am What did 112 do in the game so far?

- Called out two widely TRed players scum early on. Instantly said they both cannot be scum together.
- Called the entire player list scum throughout the game, a few at a time, or a lot at a time. [Her ISO is full of it]
- No reasons were given to most of their reads, mostly all naked “X is such alignment” post and afterwards becoming diplomatic on those reads.
- Reasons for reads/votes were given only when asked specifically or more than once.
- The votes casted by them were rather random, and were explained poorly [as I believe] upon asking her.

What she did so far in this game seems really very scummy to me. Now, there’s one thing called playing style and there’s this other thing called playing safe , playing for town creds, playing in such a way that you can both save or buss your teammates, in other words a more balanced out reads throughout the game, which is very very prominent, I mean just look at her ISO once, for god's sake.

First, let’s talk about her reasons for her reads, if you take, Vulgard’s suss early on, that read is forced and was given for the sake of it. In a scenario, let’s say, Vulgard is indeed scum, 112 walks in calling him out as an obvious scum. Her reason was he is repeating his statements/points.
1. I don’t think Vul actually repeated much than any usual player trying to talk to people about their reads.
2. Vulgard, by no means, were “obvious scum” if one at all.
3. The tone of her reason, seems a bit awkward and idk forced,or at least that’s how it sounds in my mind, never straight or strong or convincing enough.

Secondly, she calls me wolf, her reason for calling me wolf was quoted with a post of mine replying to vulgard about how I town read him cause I know where he’s coming from. So here 112 she says, how I come to form a town read on vul from prior justification and a few tidbits, which all related to my read on vul [of course no mention of how our interaction proceeded for me to come to that conclusion], having that as a reason she scum reads me. In the next line she says poison/vul ain’t w/w.

This whole thing in my opinion and from experience in a previous game is a tactic to get town cred easy. Calling out widely Tred people scum is not a wolf’s play, unless really skilled, she is skilled.

Additionally, her progression on Mich is the weirdest of all, and mostly flipflopping, as if she is ready to take up any direction any moment in the game, be it for reading her or voting her. In case of TSP though, she mentions that she would like to join the TSP wagon if possible, the TSP wagon was formed and thriving till EoD, but at EoD, her vote was on LC, a single vote on LC.

Beside all of these, just just read her ISO, neither did she do anything which is worth calling scum hunting, neither did she clarify her reads, she literally called the "entire" playerslist scum, all diplomatic views and reads and oh my god she is just scum and I'm literally blinded by her ISO and her post. Just read her ISO just do that or like convince me why she is town...

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:27 pm
Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:26 pm [VOTE: 112] aubergine
Could you remind me why you scumread me? I've honestly forgotten.

I have a wall. Lemme iso myself to find it for you. Apart from that you can always ctrl +f your name in my iso.

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:26 pm
Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:24 pm
112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:22 pm Town:
112

PoE:
Arete
Ash Lael
DrWilgy
Epignosis (replaced dunya)
Hally
Long Con
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Poison Chan
tedxtr
Why is ash so high up in your PoE?
That was a joke post.

Good humour.

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:26 pm Town
112
Hally
Ash Lael
tedxtr
Poison Chan
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Arete
Epignosis (replaced dunya)
Long Con
DrWilgy
Mafia

This list is different from the first one.

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:23 pm gl if you guise are taking arete to F3

What would happen if the F3 is LC, wilgy and Epignosis? Hmm..

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:22 pm Town:
112

PoE:
Arete
Ash Lael
DrWilgy
Epignosis (replaced dunya)
Hally
Long Con
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Poison Chan
tedxtr

Why is ash so high up in your PoE?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:18 pm
Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:16 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:07 pm LC's game play today felt weird, at the very least.
I mean they had been wagons before so they were being weird before as well..?
felt like they were trying to elbow their way through to the lower PoE

but tbh, as a town he'd have to be making reads like these ones as well because he didn't elaborate on any

so not sure it is really relevant for his alignment

I feel exposed to such a variety of playstyles this game that it is actually kinda hard to make proper reads, even after a red flip.

Mich flip was disappointing as well.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:10 pm I have to agree with Ash that DrWIlgy is ~probably just cleared. Wilgy wasn't posting like someone that had scum chat info on what to do, what the game state was, or had team mates in thread that were in danger, for that matter.

Would probably start doubting this read F3 or something.

Poison underwhelming but probably still villager.

Ash more or less obvilla.

Wilgy is actually probably town... Besides I think they didn't even read most of the game.

And, Ted, my alignment is supposed to be the same all game.

And Ash is kinda spewed town.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:07 pm LC's game play today felt weird, at the very least.

I mean they had been wagons before so they were being weird before as well..?

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:23 am I wish Poison Chan trusted me more.

I'm sorry if it is just your playstyle, but clearly your play so far has nothing for me to trust you a bit.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:41 am I mean without Vul's read arete is in prime scum position as far as I'm concerned

But I wouldn't reconsider them until f3 bc I respect the god read

yeah, they don't have much other than vul's read.

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:04 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:59 pm
Ash Lael wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:55 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:47 pm [VOTE: Arete ] aubergine

Case coming later
Ok, this is definitely town regardless of his Tony push. Getting fixated like this on a lynch that is just not going to happen, in this situation, is never a wolf I don't think.

But also dude, come on. It's not Arete.
Your reasoning for town clearing Arete is something that I actually think is specifically designed to be anti-spew.

Why are they town outside of that small thing?
Apart from being spewed by Tony, there's Vulgard's god read and the fact that I don't believe Arete approaches a wagon on their partner d1 that way.

It looks exactly like SF3 when Arete got cold feet and jumped off a wolf late d1. As a wolf, if you don't want to be on a partner's wagon, you don't get on. If you do get on, you don't bail last second.

so basically we are clearing Arete based on vul's reads?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:45 am Yeah, I think that this is a deliberate attempt to set opinions of Wilgy's mindset.

[VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine

why do you think wilgy is scum?

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:58 am Guys, Wilgy should not be the lynch. He’s the most unaligned with Tony of all the options on the table.

Arete, Poison, let’s see you put votes down.

I'm going to vote 112 if that lynch is possible by the End of the day.

Morning. I was a bit busy yesterday, hopefully I'll be active today. But I'm goin back to sleep rn.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:23 am if you're gonna have wolf reads based on "they haven't been villager-y" in a game where 75% of the time people are villagers and wolves play like wolves and have agendas then your read ~probably is wrong.

if you are gonna read someone only based on their meta even after michelle flip ~ you can be wrong as well.

they are definitely not villagery outside of that, i think if i try to look from your pov, only that makes her slightly lean town that's too vague though.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:16 am Epi's case doesn't move things for me a ton

wolf 112 never has that progression on a mafia partner, it lacks TMI imo

what kind of wolf makes a random comment on their partner, wolf leans them and then they make a post to a town voting them saying "he's voting a misyeet"

that happens like 10% of the time and it's done by a very specific type of wolf archetype which 112 does not fit

I believe the simple argument to refute the tony progression is that they liked the 2 solving posts but they still had meta with tony and they could've genuinely liked their posts in thread. Between the time I asked 112 about her TSP read and EoD I believe were 6 to 8 whole hours, and also when Tony started getting town read just for poasting.

112 still town, Hally's progression on Tony looks a lot more wolfier and I'll walk people through it much later if need be.

so basically your read on 112 is mostly based on thier meta?

I think wilgy can be town honestly.

I like Epi's post on 112.

I am gonna look at Wilgy, I have overlooked him maybe

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:59 am
Ash Lael wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:11 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:19 am kinda feel like we should sheep nook and give tony a day
This post is giving me horror scenario hally/Nanook/TSP thoughts.

Spoiler: show
My logical brain says although that team could get away with aligning more than most I still think it would distance more. My lizard brain says but what if?

this is pretty funny and genius if true

i mean TSP's "I AM MAFIA" was pretty funny and genius as well

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:25 am Can we agree there has to be a wolf in: Arete, Hally, tutuu, Nanook, and Wilgy?

tutuu is the woof! bingo!

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:17 am Both Epi and 112 are pretty convincing with their stuff. I did like 112's "you fools " post because it seems genuine or whatever, but I don't know if something like that can be enough for me at this point.

you fools.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:06 am new voltron

ted
epi
poison
112

probably villagers

wilgy
ash lael

Nanook / Hally / LC / Arete

why 112, why? why?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:09 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:08 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:07 pm Arete cleared, ash obviously cleared. Ted prooobably cleared but have to do my due diligence there and haven’t yet. Poison remains cleared. This game is still easy.
we have the same clears why are you snarking me
You’ve seen my scum game and still put me in your POE

Nook is probably just town, I don't really see him as scum

I'm actually gonna go back to sleep

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:51 pm Vote 112 or LC. Those are my biggest suspects.

I agree with 112. Not sure about LC yet though.

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:58 pm
Ash Lael wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:57 pm Hally is not hype.

Hally is down.

Hally is not town.
im sleep deprived and also really don’t care about this game and haven’t ever since i realized i will do nothing correct in it

just tunnel me whatever idc

I think if you are town, which I would like to believe, you should not confuse people with your sudden change of play, with one scum down we can actually try to find stuff better. I am pretty sure if you take a break and comeback you'll do fine. I was wrong in g9 till day7. Lmao. I know how it feels to be wrogg everytime, but you weren't really wrong all the time maybe, you don't even know yet if you are wrong or right. So I would ask you to cheer up maybe?

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:57 pm Hally is not hype.

Hally is down.

Hally is not town.

That kinda rhymes

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:55 pm
Arete wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:53 pm Hally

If you had to take a guess as to why you are not dead

What would your guess be
because my play this game has been utter garbage and as such, if im left alive long enough ill just get eliminated because people will think im mafia but the real reason i’ll be alive is because i’ve totally sucked this game

Oh I got the answer never mind repeating it.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:53 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:58 pm I AM A MAFIA
Always keep these things in mind.

LMAOOOO!

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:51 pm how hard is it to kill me

also yay we finally got scum

Why do you want to get killed and why do you think you didn't get killed?

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:50 pm I CAUGHT A WOLF DAY ONE AND YOU PEOPLE DIDN’T BELIEVE ME

SAME! also, there was a wagon on tsp so those people believed ya.!

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:50 pm HOLY SHIT TONY WAS SCUM I WAS RIGHT

Tbh, ash is spewed town... I had doubts about him but I think they are just town now.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:34 pm
112 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:32 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:27 pm
112 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:25 pm This threadstate somewhat favours the wolves.
Are you convinced Long Con is bad?
No.
You've voted there twice in a row. This means you are not convinced anyone is bad.

She called the entire players list scum. All of them...!!!!!!!!!

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:22 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:35 pm Okay. [VOTE: michelle] aubergine

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:56 pm Voting LC in hopeful detriment to TSP.
What the hell is this? My life is not a poker chip in your TSP game.
Hey, why do I never see you?
LC, you are my friend and I have nothing but the utmost respect for you, TSP too for that matter, but thwarting scum plans is all I want to do in life, and thus I voted for you. I hope you can forgive me.

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:26 pm sure lets go with that

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

But aren't you a little too excited considering your response to my wall on 112 was only "idk"

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:19 pm just kill like 112/nook/lc/maybe ted but likely not

I'm getting quite certain about 112 flipping red. Her day 1 voting LC even though they said they'd join TSP wagon now makes sense.

G-Man wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:49 pm A truly riveting night post will be added in due time. In the interest of keeping things moving...

-----------------------------

Vulgard is dead.

He was Irinushka Pichugin, an escaped political prisoner and vanilla civvie.

TonyStarkPrime succumbed to the virus.

He was Ilya Skoblin, an Russian intelligence agent in disguise as an escaped political prisoner.

It is now Day 3.

You have 48 hours to eliminate someone.

POISONER GOAT!!!!!

Good morning

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:37 pm
Poison Chan wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:35 pm Idk if it's angleshooting or not, if Epigonis can vote for the writer they may as well play a little with us? If this is called angleshooting then don't listen to me.
Voting for my favorite Russian writer is easy and fun.

If you have grievances with my participation, you are welcome to state them.

I see

I'm gonna go back to sleep

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