The Syndicate

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:23 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:17 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:13 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:02 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:00 pm One of Alison - Vulgard is scum probably, do not like the syn votes on page 3.

Why are Alison and Vulgard not the same alignment?

I don't think two wolves would try and tag-team a case on D1, and have such a wide divide on the logic behind it too. Alison's case has "makes sense" value behind it, while Vulgard's simply fell apart at the slightest breeze. If they wanted to establish a mis-elim as partners, Vulgard would have surely come up with something better than what he did.

I don't think mafia would try to do a miselim stunt at the start of the day tbh, but the progression was bad indeed.

Also, it's Syn's first game on the site, so it would be especially predatory for them to dive on together. Not that they really need to care about that; that's an old Syndicater perspective.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:20 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:12 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:08 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:45 pmThis was the game where LC self-voted for no reason and that confused me so much that I let him win at F3.

Just want to mention that it was not for no reason. It was to "try to save" the other villager who was one vote ahead of me. Admittedly, the stated reason of "he's worth more than I am alive" is questionable, but the action of giving away an elimination like that is so unwolfy, which is the position I successfully took the risk for.

It was F3, with you and the other villa at 1 votes each? The scum hammered you didn't they?

Sorry, I should have said "other villager" in quotes. I was scum. Sloonei had to choose between Tony and I, and he chose wrong. There were other variables as well, some sketchiness surrounding Tony's claimed role, which I capitalized on.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:15 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:07 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:24 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:12 pm

Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:09 pm [VOTE: Syn] aubergine

I checked again and they have done nothing within their five posts. These posts were all spent on talking about themselves, their first post was a comment about the OP (which is not really game-related and is unlikely to out you as mafia when you talk about it as mafia), and they come across as trying to seem relaxed in the thread. Which is probably why they are spending so much time on "settling in."

I liked nutella's start, but I have some respect for their wolfgame, so I'm not going to pull an Alison and make a weakly supported solid townread on her out of nowhere.

what kind of opportunistic hogwash is this

Of course my posts are going to talk about me when I was responding to someone specifically asking me about my play style. Bro what

I agree, Syn didn't drive the conversation to be about himself, he was responding to questions and suspicions about him.

Come to think of it, you are a lot more memorable in this game than the last one. Are you more active in this one?

Yes, I am. I didn't feel like slanking, I think it's because I've gone over a week without a mafia game. Plus some old friends are playing, so that's exciting.

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:13 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:02 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:00 pm One of Alison - Vulgard is scum probably, do not like the syn votes on page 3.

Why are Alison and Vulgard not the same alignment?

I don't think two wolves would try and tag-team a case on D1, and have such a wide divide on the logic behind it too. Alison's case has "makes sense" value behind it, while Vulgard's simply fell apart at the slightest breeze. If they wanted to establish a mis-elim as partners, Vulgard would have surely come up with something better than what he did.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:24 pm

Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:22 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:14 pm actually my first real read is that vulgard is fishing 'cause look at their read on alison too

you're gonna need more to catch alison as a wolf she's a goat

What do you mean by "fishing?"
And I don't know that. I haven't seen Alison play at all.

"i don't like this entrance" "i don't like that entrance" "i don't like that read" when we're at rvs stage

it looks like you're trying to form reads and give an appearance of wolf hunting when a) it ain't really the time for it and b) your suspicions are of little substance atm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:08 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:45 pmThis was the game where LC self-voted for no reason and that confused me so much that I let him win at F3.

Just want to mention that it was not for no reason. It was to "try to save" the other villager who was one vote ahead of me. Admittedly, the stated reason of "he's worth more than I am alive" is questionable, but the action of giving away an elimination like that is so unwolfy, which is the position I successfully took the risk for.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:05 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:04 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:02 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:00 pm One of Alison - Vulgard is scum probably, do not like the syn votes on page 3.

Why are Alison and Vulgard not the same alignment?

They can easily be together, but there's a possibility of a confirmed mafia is higher.

Why?

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:24 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:12 pm

Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:09 pm [VOTE: Syn] aubergine

I checked again and they have done nothing within their five posts. These posts were all spent on talking about themselves, their first post was a comment about the OP (which is not really game-related and is unlikely to out you as mafia when you talk about it as mafia), and they come across as trying to seem relaxed in the thread. Which is probably why they are spending so much time on "settling in."

I liked nutella's start, but I have some respect for their wolfgame, so I'm not going to pull an Alison and make a weakly supported solid townread on her out of nowhere.

what kind of opportunistic hogwash is this

Of course my posts are going to talk about me when I was responding to someone specifically asking me about my play style. Bro what

I agree, Syn didn't drive the conversation to be about himself, he was responding to questions and suspicions about him.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:04 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:02 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:12 pm Votes are changeable, right?

There are games on syndicate where you can not change votes?

Not so much anymore, but there was a time where that was the standard.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:02 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:00 pm One of Alison - Vulgard is scum probably, do not like the syn votes on page 3.

Why are Alison and Vulgard not the same alignment?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:12 pm Votes are changeable, right?

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:45 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:24 pm Syn's description of themselves as "agitating" is bothering me and I can't put my finger on why. I just think it's a little weird for someone to describe themselves/their mafia play that way. I also can't explain why that's mafia indicative though. (My best theory is that it's setting up an excuse for awkwardness/discomfort by implying that his posts always rub people the wrong way? But I don't really believe that even as I write it and it feels like a rationalization of a gut read more than anything.)

I'm nothing if not self-aware. This is my first off-site/other-community game, but on CFC I've gotten into pretty frequent conflicts due to my play. I tend to only get cleared because someone mechanically confirmed it, not because of personality.

I don't really have an opinion on awkwardness. I'm just cognizant of my play style and how it might conflict. In the one game I played with Nutella I only lived because she cop-cleared me.

I'm not especially aggro or anything like that. I just don't really play like expected, and my response when people tell me to do certain things is usually "no," and that gets wolf-read easily.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:26 pm hey hey hey

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:24 pm Syn's description of themselves as "agitating" is bothering me and I can't put my finger on why. I just think it's a little weird for someone to describe themselves/their mafia play that way. I also can't explain why that's mafia indicative though. (My best theory is that it's setting up an excuse for awkwardness/discomfort by implying that his posts always rub people the wrong way? But I don't really believe that even as I write it and it feels like a rationalization of a gut read more than anything.)

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:47 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:15 pm
Syn: dried out day old tim hortons donut

why you do me dirty like that

maybe Nutella not so GOAT

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:08 pm Oh and a few of us were technically in the MU anniversary mash with him but that only sort of counts. He was 3P but I remember he looked pretty towny.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:46 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:45 pm funnygurl have you met tutuu? you two are actually so similar it's kinda scary

i haven't but i really wanna now

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:45 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:43 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:42 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:01 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:42 pm @nutella you were one of the out-of-thread demi-gods in Assassin's Creed. What can you tell us about that experience?

I don't remember a ton of detail but we had a discord, we could read the thread and discuss our thoughts, and we had daily choices on smaller or larger ways to influence the game (such as giving a certain player a power buff or something) and then a few phases in we entered the thread for a day and helped town solve the game and then left again

Could you guys do anything with the lynch or anything destructive from there?

I really don't remember sorry lol

You guys gave me a golden apple or something and I forget what that did, but it was something positive, and then I think you could vote on the day you were in the thread?

This was the game where LC self-voted for no reason and that confused me so much that I let him win at F3.

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:44 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:43 pm

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:41 pm @Poison im a freakin walking human puzzle

Don't come near me, I have a bad reputation of losing puzzle pieces. If you lose your limbs or eyes, it's on you.

mods? mods!?!?

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:41 pm

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:41 pm @Poison im a freakin walking human puzzle

no you're not you're a monkey wearing shades

GOT 'EM

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:41 pm @Poison im a freakin walking human puzzle

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:01 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:42 pm @nutella you were one of the out-of-thread demi-gods in Assassin's Creed. What can you tell us about that experience?

I don't remember a ton of detail but we had a discord, we could read the thread and discuss our thoughts, and we had daily choices on smaller or larger ways to influence the game (such as giving a certain player a power buff or something) and then a few phases in we entered the thread for a day and helped town solve the game and then left again

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:38 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:36 pm I just saw it says "sloonbeard" not "sloonbread"

Lol

I thought you were just continuing the food theme

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:37 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:33 pm

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:24 pm why the hell am i scallions

bc I was gonna be racist and put chorizo or something but then i swapped out alison's

well chorizo makes sense too but that’s unrelated

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:34 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:29 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:23 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:21 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:27 pm People have squinted at me for saying that I have "genuine" reads in the past, as if every read I share as town is supposed to be genuine.

So with that in mind, here's a read of unknown sincerity:

Vulgard is mafia.

After encounterimg your God reads in g9, I want to believe in it right away, if you are not a mafia yourself that is.

This post kinda pings me.

Why exactly?

Because you're setting up an excuse to sheep Sloonei while putting the responsibility of the exe on his shoulders and implying that if he is wrong he is mafia.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:32 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:27 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:26 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:21 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:27 pm People have squinted at me for saying that I have "genuine" reads in the past, as if every read I share as town is supposed to be genuine.

So with that in mind, here's a read of unknown sincerity:

Vulgard is mafia.

After encounterimg your God reads in g9, I want to believe in it right away, if you are not a mafia yourself that is.

Game 9 was a very unique circumstance due to the timing of my arrival.

Am I mafia right now?

No you are sloonbread

What reads, thoughts, or general impressions about the game do you have so far?

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:52 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:39 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:27 pm People have squinted at me for saying that I have "genuine" reads in the past, as if every read I share as town is supposed to be genuine.

So with that in mind, here's a read of unknown sincerity:

Vulgard is mafia.

I raise you: Enrique is a self-aligned third party bulletproof serial killer survivor.

yeah but that’s unrelated to this mafia game

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:23 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:21 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:27 pm People have squinted at me for saying that I have "genuine" reads in the past, as if every read I share as town is supposed to be genuine.

So with that in mind, here's a read of unknown sincerity:

Vulgard is mafia.

After encounterimg your God reads in g9, I want to believe in it right away, if you are not a mafia yourself that is.

This post kinda pings me.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:26 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:21 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:27 pm People have squinted at me for saying that I have "genuine" reads in the past, as if every read I share as town is supposed to be genuine.

So with that in mind, here's a read of unknown sincerity:

Vulgard is mafia.

After encounterimg your God reads in g9, I want to believe in it right away, if you are not a mafia yourself that is.

Game 9 was a very unique circumstance due to the timing of my arrival.

Am I mafia right now?

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:44 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:40 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:27 pm People have squinted at me for saying that I have "genuine" reads in the past, as if every read I share as town is supposed to be genuine.

So with that in mind, here's a read of unknown sincerity:

Vulgard is mafia.

I can see it. Pre-slank excuse, mech chatter, and bland greetings.

I could see Vulgard being scum but mostly because their posting looks kinda carefully controlled to be as inoffensive and trigger people's scumdars as little as possible. I had a confused reaction to that mechanic as well so I don't blame them for the mech chatter, and I think pre-slank excuses are NAI. There are very few people (in general, but especially on the Syndicate) who roll scum and then go "alright! I'm going to go and give an excuse so I can coast through D1!" Not only is this just uncommon behavior, it's also suboptimal - you allow yourself to engage in some anti-town behavior, but in exchange you lose a lot of ability to gain trust and manipulate the town. Syndicate is not a site that is afraid to exe slankers and you will win a lot more games by powerwolfing than coasting.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:40 pm I routinely lie and manipulate as town. It's just optimal play.

Poison has told me that she often feels very uncomfortable as mafia and gets found out very quickly, and that she's generally bad at playing mafia. But in this game she feels very comfortable and fluid. I understand that a game where she is mafia has just ended; what was she like in that game?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:20 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:15 pm What the fuck is going on here

We’re putting old donuts in the fridge like goddamn heathens.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:27 pm People have squinted at me for saying that I have "genuine" reads in the past, as if every read I share as town is supposed to be genuine.

So with that in mind, here's a read of unknown sincerity:

Vulgard is mafia.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:15 pm Vulgard: eggs that are like three weeks old but still totally fine because eggs last a while
Alison: chicken breast
Sloonei: bell pepper (closest thing to paprika that would be in a fridge. or I guess maybe leftover paprikash or goulash)
Long Con: maple syrup
nutella: doesn't belong in the fridge. but could also be ice cream in the freezer
MacDougall: haha vegemite haha i'm being real unoriginal. or maybe sausage
Funnygurl555: well she used to be baby carrots but i think shes like a spicy chipotle hummus to go with the carrots
Marmot: Oregon marionberry jam
Syn: dried out day old tim hortons donut
TonyStarkPrime: honey mustard
Poison: chocolate milk
Enrique: scallions

And the ppl not in the thread are not in the fridge but in the cupboard
Hyena: caramel popcorn
Quin: cinnamon
Trustworthy Liberal: seaweed snacks
Turnip Head: well...duh

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:19 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:07 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:06 pm Who has played with Vulgard before?

I think just the people he mentioned on the first page from G-Man's game -- Poison, TSP, and LC.

Interesting. LC was quick to jump on the idea of Vulgard being mafia.
@TonyStarkPrime @Poison what are your thoughts on this game's version of Vulgard compared to the version you saw in the previous game?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:59 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:58 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:53 pm Cue Epignosis adverb tell

What would people with poor grammar do here exactly?

He’d probably give you a C.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:53 pm Cue Epignosis adverb tell

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:35 pm Wins/Losses, I assume.

Syn is Even Steven.

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:29 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:28 pm Syn, how many games have you played before?

Not including ongoing games, 14.

5/5 town, 1/1 wolf.

Wait, that comes to 12.

Okay, 12 games.