The Syndicate

seanzie was such a blatantly, ridiculously awful wagon that i'm 99% sure everyone who was on it is town

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:49 pm
112 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:47 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:46 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:44 pm I was trying to do my work but you idiots keep distracting me.

Falcon it's not me who can't eat gluten, it's my wife.
I just assumed you were single, and she's a figment of your imagination
okay but where are we at?
Imma 'bout to drive in a blizzard, and you are safely snuggled in the eternal ether of awesome

Wish me luck

it's probably best that i don't lest you rely on it too much and forget the aspect of paying attention

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:47 pm The Hydra said one good thing and everything since has been butt

who is the hydra

if P&G i agree with you except for some posts i liked

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:46 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:44 pm I was trying to do my work but you idiots keep distracting me.

Falcon it's not me who can't eat gluten, it's my wife.
I just assumed you were single, and she's a figment of your imagination

okay but where are we at?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:41 pm
112 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:40 pmi do not remember more than 5 minutes ago generally, so not sure

i will townread you for the rest of the game because of this interaction, however
I think you've done it twice as scum actually. You should probably choose a different tactic next time. The north remembers.

I will note this in my memory logs.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:38 pm
112 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:36 pm i am convinced that nobody who plays mafia with me knows how to read me these days.

i do not even know how to read myself.

i am unreadable.

i am god.
Join the club lol. Didn't you nag all game that I was scum last GoC, and then you turned out to be some cult anti-town monster 3p or something? HMMM

i do not remember more than 5 minutes ago generally, so not sure

i will townread you for the rest of the game because of this interaction, however

alexa wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:36 pm
112 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:32 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:15 pm 112
DrWilgy
LinearPoint
Paopan
sabie12
sig
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime

these 8 can all go based on EOD
LOL

literally what did i do
you had a post that pinged me yesterday and uhhh POE

realistically that list has at least 2 non-mafia and i wouldn't be surprised if half the list was wrong because lolme if i somehow got the whole scumteam there, i'm guessing it has 2-4 with 6 wolves left and a couple people are deeper but it's just people i think are decent votes

do you think you should be townread?

i think reasonably it is fruitless to try to read me in a game where i am able to read 1/10 of the posts posted

but yeah i've done towny things and made towny posts and am towny relative to my ability to be present

so yes i should be townread

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:36 pm
112 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:32 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:15 pm 112
DrWilgy
LinearPoint
Paopan
sabie12
sig
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime

these 8 can all go based on EOD
LOL

literally what did i do
I’m assuming that is a POE list because I literally was not here at EoD and I doubt I was a hot topic of conversation.

"based on EOD"

incredible slip from alexa

i am convinced that nobody who plays mafia with me knows how to read me these days.

i do not even know how to read myself.

i am unreadable.

i am god.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:33 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:27 pm also the game just ended where guillo fooled TF out of me as a wolf, and when i realized he was a wolf there, that was part of what spurred my push because I realized almost anything is in his wolf range.
Oof.

alexa/dizzy:
w/w or w/t?

alexa wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:15 pm 112
DrWilgy
LinearPoint
Paopan
sabie12
sig
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime

these 8 can all go based on EOD

LOL

literally what did i do

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:05 pm I think Dyslexicon is wolf here

We need to look on who was vote hopping yesterday especially because I feel all proposed CFDs were town and wolves were having fun with the chaos

yes

everyone should read the post two above yours and tell me it's not wolf

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:53 pm This is not a productive CFD session tbh.

that's because i'm the only one on falc

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:51 pm Let's CFD Radishes.

KZA MR imo.

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:38 pm Oh shit just lost the energy to play

yes thank you for expressing my feeling for me

i will recharge over the night phase.. regenerating.,,

chop falcon

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:28 pm
112 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:27 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:23 pm
112 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:21 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:20 pm
112 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:18 pm i'm thinking Axe is some kind of 3p
You don't think I'm mafia... You acknowledge that I made every effort to make it clear the red check is fake... AND you're voting me.
i never acknowledged this

making every effort would be fully recanting the claim
OK, so what are your thoughts on the posts I made before Alexa shot? Creature quoted for ease of reading, I re-quoted last page... Go, tell me how that's ever a real check, and tell me how I ever make that play as mafia?
You hard claimed a red check; this is how it's a real check.

You had every opportunity to make a black-and-white statement stating that your red check was a ruse or otherwise fabricated, and you refused.

You are talking to me like your side of the story is not difficult to understand, but it is. It makes literally no sense.
For the record, I have a red check against Falcon, hard claiming, never rescinding.

aight, i believe you.

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

for the record, never planned on holding my vote to you, just wanted to interrogate

this is the way

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:23 pm
112 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:21 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:20 pm
112 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:18 pm i'm thinking Axe is some kind of 3p
You don't think I'm mafia... You acknowledge that I made every effort to make it clear the red check is fake... AND you're voting me.
i never acknowledged this

making every effort would be fully recanting the claim
OK, so what are your thoughts on the posts I made before Alexa shot? Creature quoted for ease of reading, I re-quoted last page... Go, tell me how that's ever a real check, and tell me how I ever make that play as mafia?

You hard claimed a red check; this is how it's a real check.

You had every opportunity to make a black-and-white statement stating that your red check was a ruse or otherwise fabricated, and you refused.

You are talking to me like your side of the story is not difficult to understand, but it is. It makes literally no sense.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:21 pm
112 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:20 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:17 pm How much clearer can I say I'm rescinding/this is fake without actually rescinding @112.

Tell me, and I'll accept your vote on me as being genuine
the problem is that you would never need to rescind a claim without actually rescinding it.
I mean, you don't know this. You assume this which makes me think that you don't know how Nanook designs games, and you don't understand that Nanook would take great amusement in putting me in an awkward situation like this.

if there's a role in this game whereby a player is obligated to make false claims about other players, i don't think i care about losing lol

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:20 pm
112 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:18 pm i'm thinking Axe is some kind of 3p
You don't think I'm mafia... You acknowledge that I made every effort to make it clear the red check is fake... AND you're voting me.

i never acknowledged this

making every effort would be fully recanting the claim

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:17 pm How much clearer can I say I'm rescinding/this is fake without actually rescinding @112.

Tell me, and I'll accept your vote on me as being genuine

the problem is that you would never need to rescind a claim without actually rescinding it.

i'm thinking Axe is some kind of 3p

bizarre

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:13 pm Creature quote about 10 posts that clear me and demonstrate my intentions very well. The fact that Alexa shot isn't my problem and people should certainly not be killing me on policy for something that someone else did.

could you link?

did you not claim a red check?

have i been misled?

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:10 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:08 pm breaking the 6-6 tie between ender and naa by voting for ender.
posting this in case it clears me later
cool

112 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:09 pm uhh i don't have time to parse through everything so i'm just going to vote policy

[VOTE: notanaxehole] aubergine

bo should have been mafia and i am disappointed in the rng
smh

someone can kill ender n1 if they want

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:06 pm lol @ believing a red check from naa
town didn't lose anything important fortunately

just want it on record that this pings me

uhh i don't have time to parse through everything so i'm just going to vote policy

[VOTE: notanaxehole] aubergine

bo should have been mafia and i am disappointed in the rng

I think a role requiring that a player make false redchecks would be highly inadvisable and I do not think it likely that such a thing would be added to a game, even a light & fun one like this.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:45 pm I genuinely think c4 is deep wolfing but I don't expect anyone to care for several days

I will keep this in mind for you.

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:18 pm 112 might also be wolf actively lurking

I am town trying to keep up, actually.

Every time I check the thread there are 50-150 more posts.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 4:14 pm So NAA has a post restriction, Neeko understands.
Also Neeko caught up, but needs to go back and find the post that stood out to her.

Side note, 112's read on Neeko is weird in her opinion. Town leaning Neeko for RPing has nothing to do with her alignment.

i never townread you for roleplaying

you misread my post

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 3:10 pm Here's some food for thought

112 is in wolf range

I am always in wolf range.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 8:16 am Oh hey, my gut feeling on marmot was correct

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 8:08 am how shit of a bloke is Danil Medvedev btw

He's no Wayne Maki.

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:38 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:34 am Anyway, I'm going to start to look at Marmot connections, cause I don't think anyone did that yet
Tbh several people have done that but it's not like I'd expect you to dig through game this size. The main thing that I've arrived at as a result of the Marmot flip is believing that there are 2 triumvirates that maybe contain a wolf in them. That being the people voting for Scotty (a confirmed town), and the people who were voting Paopan with the latter predicated on Paopan being town themselves. Given Paopan isn't flipped I am preferring to dig into the Scotty voters whomst are you, Creature and Master Radishes. Creature has been handling me in good faith and hasn't really pinged me while you and Radishes have not only had shit reads on me you've had shit reads on me, you've also both been lacking in general. Though to Radishes credit I can see the wheels turning whereas with you, right now, you're resorting to some weird defeated general butthurt ate thing that I don't vibe with at all.

SHROOP

Mac town, this much is obvious now

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 4:31 am
112 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 4:23 am list arranged by tier with highest in a given tier being towniest of that group. notes provided on some but not all players.

Lock town, never look back:
112

Town read:
Belzy - my highest townread; albeit i have reservations even here i think this is a pretty solidly town slot: insights are original, seems to have conviction in stated reads and is approaching the game in a very problem-solvey way indicative of village alignment
Seanzie - i was wrong
ilario - similar to Belzy.,. also has many times throughout the game submitted several posts in succession, sometimes carrying a chain of thought--something wolves are less likely to do or otherwise tend to have trouble doing. substantive contributions.
c4 - here because people are talking about him like he's lock town and i don't have any reason to really scumread him

town lean:
nutella
alexa - people say she's a strong wolf, i think probably still town. i will, however, keep my eyes peeled
hallowkat - less sure than i was upon initial gut because i've seen some shade thrown his way and i seem to be influenced by it to a degree but still reasonably confident here
falcon - i'm not sure, but he's my strongest read from the CDC crew still in the game. has been trending up in play over the past year or two- not convinced this is his scum game, though
LinearPoint - if there's a read i'm going to get bit on it's this one, - roleplaying plays on my psychology, - but probs town

neutral
Paopan - don't like the slot enough to bump it up yet but not much negative to say here at present
Master R. - i liked the first things i read from him but have gotten some bad vibes here-and-there. he townleaned(read?) me but then retracted when i decided to add too much to a post and he didn't like it. i'll admit it was kind of a silly add-on from me at the time, but i'm not sure he'd be so antsy about it unless he was trying to gain towncred as a wolf? gun-to-my-head town at this point but i'm going to be sussing the slot out hard over the next while
Alison
dyachei
Creature - i liked him at first and do admit he was sharing thoughts early-game that i was having without me even expressing them. seems to be really conservative though and i'm not a huge fan
Phil and Gloria - trending up, trending down, lost in the abyss of 112's reads rn

maf lean:
sabie12 - not much to say here as her post quantity is rather low, which i don't want to criticize her for. but there's stuff i don't like in what is a small sample
EnderWiggin - i'm thinking he may have been caught and just doubled-down with the openwolfing in an attempt to get out of yeet candidacy?
Guillotine

mafia lean but also read:
Dizzy and Bo

null/haven't seen enough or anything of
urist
axe!
Wilgy, MD
Justplayingitcool
sig
Porscha
sloon
TonyStarkPrime

too many nulls but honestly i haven't been able to catch the posters listed there enough

where i'm at, hope it sparks someone's wandering genius
Why am I mafia? Why is Dizzy mafia? Why is falcon town?

1. Because this isn't a towny way to respond to a list like that and I don't think you had enough time to actually read it before making this post.
2. I have made prior posts about this if you want to ISO. I am sleepy and not too in the mood to repeat myself. I could add a few details I omitted that inform the read tomorrow if you want.

3. It's mostly a gut read and I could easily be wrong on it. Mostly he reminds me of himself in a game we recently hydra'd with, although tbf he wasn't too active there. idk i've played with him for like 5 or 7+ yrs so it's hard to unpack the read in verbiage totally well.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 4:30 am Hi! What did I miss. I only have 10 minutes to spend here before I fall asleep

well i went from 66 to 70 woodcutting today on yews, so it's kind of a big day

i am now officially back on smoko btw

gotta get those mining lvls

list arranged by tier with highest in a given tier being towniest of that group. notes provided on some but not all players.

Lock town, never look back:
112

Town read:
Belzy - my highest townread; albeit i have reservations even here i think this is a pretty solidly town slot: insights are original, seems to have conviction in stated reads and is approaching the game in a very problem-solvey way indicative of village alignment
Seanzie - i was wrong
ilario - similar to Belzy.,. also has many times throughout the game submitted several posts in succession, sometimes carrying a chain of thought--something wolves are less likely to do or otherwise tend to have trouble doing. substantive contributions.
c4 - here because people are talking about him like he's lock town and i don't have any reason to really scumread him

town lean:
nutella
alexa - people say she's a strong wolf, i think probably still town. i will, however, keep my eyes peeled

hallowkat - less sure than i was upon initial gut because i've seen some shade thrown his way and i seem to be influenced by it to a degree but still reasonably confident here
falcon - i'm not sure, but he's my strongest read from the CDC crew still in the game. has been trending up in play over the past year or two- not convinced this is his scum game, though
LinearPoint - if there's a read i'm going to get bit on it's this one, - roleplaying plays on my psychology, - but probs town

neutral
Paopan - don't like the slot enough to bump it up yet but not much negative to say here at present
Master R. - i liked the first things i read from him but have gotten some bad vibes here-and-there. he townleaned(read?) me but then retracted when i decided to add too much to a post and he didn't like it. i'll admit it was kind of a silly add-on from me at the time, but i'm not sure he'd be so antsy about it unless he was trying to gain towncred as a wolf? gun-to-my-head town at this point but i'm going to be sussing the slot out hard over the next while
Alison
dyachei
Creature - i liked him at first and do admit he was sharing thoughts early-game that i was having without me even expressing them. seems to be really conservative though and i'm not a huge fan
Phil and Gloria - trending up, trending down, lost in the abyss of 112's reads rn

maf lean:
sabie12 - not much to say here as her post quantity is rather low, which i don't want to criticize her for. but there's stuff i don't like in what is a small sample
EnderWiggin - i'm thinking he may have been caught and just doubled-down with the openwolfing in an attempt to get out of yeet candidacy?
Guillotine

mafia lean but also read:
Dizzy and Bo

null/haven't seen enough or anything of
urist
axe!
Wilgy, MD
Justplayingitcool
sig
Porscha
sloon
TonyStarkPrime

too many nulls but honestly i haven't been able to catch the posters listed there enough

where i'm at, hope it sparks someone's wandering genius

uhh i have just under an hour to go of woodcutting and then i think i'll try putting together a list and see if it helps my flow of thought here

beware, wolves

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:59 am
112 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:58 am
Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:55 am If I had to force townreads outside this group I'd probably add 112, alexa, Alison, guillo, Axe, urist... Actually urist probably is just town. The rest I have some doubt towards. Maybe I should just pretend I don't.
i'm not sure you're sincere about this
well that's sad because I am

well i need to take a break to cry

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:55 am If I had to force townreads outside this group I'd probably add 112, alexa, Alison, guillo, Axe, urist... Actually urist probably is just town. The rest I have some doubt towards. Maybe I should just pretend I don't.

i'm not sure you're sincere about this

alexa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:25 am [VOTE: GUILLOTINE] aubergine

i can 100% see this so not insulting the vote when i ask, but what are your reasons?

OOPS

you asked for bangers..

@nutella

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:56 pm I have just been held up by something IRL. I'll get on later tonight or tomorrow.

I hope it's nothing bad!

I have to go buy something to eat soon, so I'll be gone for maybe 20 minutes myself.

Paopan wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:39 pm
112 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:34 pm
sabie12 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:33 pm
Paopan wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:29 pm My vote is still at sabie
There are way better votes? Probably
But I'm confident sabie will flip scum
What happens when I flip town? What does that say about you?
Why does it have to say anything? Can villagers not have bad reads?
It's not she doesn't have a bad read. But that she doesn't have a read at all and that is my main issue at this stage

I'm not sure you understood my post.

i didn't read paopan's list but having 9 wolves on it is >rand v

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:33 pm
Paopan wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:29 pm My vote is still at sabie
There are way better votes? Probably
But I'm confident sabie will flip scum
What happens when I flip town? What does that say about you?

Why does it have to say anything? Can villagers not have bad reads?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:16 pm
112 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:13 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:12 pm
112 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:09 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:08 pm
112 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:05 pm

Seems like a bit of an overreaction, considering you said I'm shootable and I ain't heard shit from you all game...except for an odd town core post, that it would appear you've rescinded

It's been hours since I last overreacted, you don't have time for popcorn.

This is more of a twizzler situation
I don't believe in twizzlers.
Nibs?
I'm Christian.
Fuxk NIK is gunna be stoked.

He's been the only one for years

Also, sorry for your loss. I know it was like 2K years ago, but he said he'd be back & it's gotta be tough staring at the clock all this time

Well, we don't just stare at the clock, although things have gotten somewhat less exciting ever since the Crusades stopped being a thing.

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