The Syndicate

Paopan wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:31 am Aight let's get em

[VOTE: 112] aubergine
[VOTE: c4e5g3d5] aubergine
[VOTE: hollowkatt] aubergine
[VOTE: sabie12] aubergine

mfw

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:14 am wolves shooting partners is cowardly.

but it's big plays.

not my first guess but not at all out of the realm of possibility

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:11 am
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:07 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:07 am
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:05 am ilario i can see as wolf as of recent
He shot dizzy tho
dizzy was obvwolf
but why. He could have easily shot someone else like a town and gotten away with it. Dizzy had the potential to go deep into the game

cuz he himself has always had a better chance than dizzy of going deep in the game and if he shoots dizzy it solidifies it??

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:07 am
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:05 am ilario i can see as wolf as of recent
He shot dizzy tho

dizzy was obvwolf

ilario i can see as wolf as of recent

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:02 am If I had to rank my voters from most to least suspicious

Voters: Alexa, ilario, Dyachei, Belzy, Sloonei, Phil and Gloria, sabie12, TSP, Paopan, Dr Wigy

ye was just thonking abt wilgy

unvoted wilgy

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:57 am 8 votes is simply not enough

What the hell is Scotty doing down in that engine room?

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:51 am I need to sleep. Ugh I don't know I think with the case on c4 coupled with that shot on bo after Bo voted dizzy I'll vote c4. And then one more vote left I guess I'm at a point where I need to make some kind of attempt to self pres. Guillo and 112 are others with a lot of votes and I don't feel strongly that either of them are town.

I refuse to believe I am crazy. That is not the paranoid psychotic way. This is a scum slot.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:50 am 112 - maybe mafia
alexa - very likely town, have mech
Belzy - very likely town
c4e5g3d5 - poisslby town
Creature - town
DrWilgy - possibly mafia
dyachei - very likely town, has mech
falcon45ca - town because mech
Guillotine - who knows
hollowkatt - who knows
ilario - very likely town, has mech
Justplayingitcool - towniest town to ever town
LinearPoint - maybe town, dizzy interaction doesnt feel partnery
Master Radishes - town, has mech
nutella - lol
Paopan - mafia
Phil and Gloria - mafia because i want to piss off mac
Porscha - has mech, apparently
sabie12 - who knows
sig - maybe mafia
Sloonei - possibly town
TonyStarkPrime - mafia because i want to piss off mac

a list this hedgey can only come from town, right?

I don't think I will ever townread sabie in this game.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:22 am

me every time i get tied up and thrown into the back of someone's vehicle

wow mac trying to give me a seizure

ilario wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 3:46 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:18 pm I promised to talk some more about my c4 suspicion. It seems he has gained sufficient momentum since last night anyway, but I will still dump my thoughts into the thread.

Something that I feel is sometimes true about mafia members is that they struggle to actively pursue suspicions. It is one thing to name suspects and place votes, but it is another to flesh out reads and have them develop in real time. Making up fake arguments about a person about why they are lying when you know that they are not can be a difficult thing to do, especially when the person you are targeting is capable of being more vocal than you about it. The result is a bunch of stagnant suspicions that fail to take off, with more energy spent arguing (truthfully) about why certain players are town instead of mafia.

I think I see this trend playing out in c4's posts. Observe:
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c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:53 pm [VOTE: Creature] aubergine

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:23 pm The fact that Creature can only bring himself to talk about one thing so far is wolfy.

The fact that he's clearly beenfollowing along live for a reasonable amount of time given how quickly he voted nut makes it wolfier.

The fact that it's a piece of mechanical information also makes it wolfier.

The fact that it's an obviously fake redcheck also makes it wolfier.

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:39 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:34 pm Is soup kill a thing?
Derp denied
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:05 pm @Sloonei post

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:20 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:14 pm I feel like I shouldn't be the one towncasing myself
Then lemme do it

Creature's strings of posts of talking to himself came off as pure and more drawn out than w!Creature would bother with

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:04 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:03 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:00 pm [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

Sup
hey gamer what's poppin
You feel wolfy from a glance

Are you a wolf?
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:12 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:10 pm C4, shoot:

Scotty (scummy)

Bo (as KZA wanted)

or

Wilgy (as he requested)
Could totally shoot Scotty

Bo seems to be genuinely enjoying himself and is decently polarized but since both of you know him better do you have specific insights?

Wilgy lolno

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:26 pm Yeah Mac isn't towny lul

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:19 pm Ender townreaders talk to me about Ender pls

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:30 pm [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Where's that spark I saw in RYM 96

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:46 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:44 pm i think paopan may be town rn based on his response and my spiritual vote is not on him, just haven't figured out where to go yet

@dyachei what's your read on me rn?
I have an idea of where you can go

Were you paying attention to Sloonei's posting in RYM perchance? It was miles townier than this even with low engagement.
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:59 pm I'm very tempted to just shoot Sloon
Etc.
C4's most substantive Day 1 posts are an exchange with Porscha that lists reasons to suspect her, but never develops in any meaningful way. The rest of c4's Day 1 feels like aimless prodding and asking for direction on who to shoot. I am lacking the full context leading up to his decision to shoot Bo, but based on c4's posts alone I do not find his process to be all that convincing.
The suspects c4 does prod for most of Day 1 are easy options. He starts with Creature, whose playstyle invites suspicion, especially early on. Then he shifts to Porscha, an unfamiliar face with light activity. Then he spends a few posts prodding me with no direction because of my absence/lack of spark. But c4 never actually put real pressure on me. He demanded that I post and then didn't have anything to say to me when I did.

Compare all of this to the amount of time and energy c4 puts into townreading people on Day 1. I am having trouble finding any evidence that he is making a sincere effort to uncover suspects. He steps in to declare town reads every once in a while, and then gropes around listlessly at potential suspects. I'm uninspired by all of this. If c4 is town, I need to see him demonstrate that he is actually trying to develop reads on players.
case me daddy

wolf son

ilario wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 3:29 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:49 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:35 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:33 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:31 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:31 pm I'm failing to pinpoint even one wolf
towny

This shade is annoying me
I will always find "hope we lynch a wolf, gosh this game is sooooo hard, I can't find wolves!" type of posts scummy
i will never understand how ur mind works lol

people say: 112 is an enigma.

the truth is i am one of a triumvirate from the cdc circle.

falcon also is of the enigmus.

k switched my tsp vote to [VOTE: hallowkat] aubergine

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 3:06 am four deaths today 112

yes, this will satisfy..

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 3:05 am
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 3:03 am
Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 2:20 am @Guillotine @Master Radishes @alexa @Justplayingitcool @sabie12 @hollowkatt @Creature @LinearPoint @falcon45ca @112

hey TSP asked me to make sure he doesn't die so can you guys unvote him and vote some other random instead please.

oh and also if you're voting for me stop doing that also.
too much pressure at once, mac
counterpoint

I answer only to Mayor West.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 2:58 am Like, I think that this is a good example of why multivoting makes people dumb.

People may not sus me, but because of my tendency to be unreadable I just get yeeted here instead of potential suspects that people actually want yeeted, all because I'm forever the easiest vote.

Also, I'd not read this as me upset about it or anything. I just hope that town can carry on after this.

i don't think it makes people dumb but careless

how many chops are there going to be? is it still just one?

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 2:20 am @Guillotine @Master Radishes @alexa @Justplayingitcool @sabie12 @hollowkatt @Creature @LinearPoint @falcon45ca @112

hey TSP asked me to make sure he doesn't die so can you guys unvote him and vote some other random instead please.

oh and also if you're voting for me stop doing that also.

too much pressure at once, mac

also idk if i really pushed kaz?

like i expressed some concerns early but nothing substantial and i certainly didn't want to chop him. i was half-serious at best lol.

also it seems like such an old read to bring up at this point that i don't really understand it

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:14 pm
112 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:08 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:00 pm Okay caught up on some, skipped ahead on a lot still but wanted to check in

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:27 am Yeah, of the top wagons Imma say Sabie is Dizzy's partner.

Why is Porscha getting no attention?
>"Im not like other girls"

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:32 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:22 pm Like nutella had faced some light shade. It wasn't entirely out of nowhere someone might find her suspicious.
Thoughts on 112?
I have felt off about 112 for a while cuz I thought their interaction during day and then conclusion towards KZA after KZA flipped was weird and I felt like they have been coasting for a while so it's hard for me to feel good about them
i think this is the first post i've managed to catch from you tbh

what do you mean about my conclusion towards kaz after he flipped?
Yeah I @ in a post yesterday I think no worries tho.
Uuuuuh you pushed KZA for not sounding townie enough but then he flipped town and your reasoning for being mad that he died was because you enjoy playing with him and I wasnt sure if I fully bought it (I really havent played with most people here so I'm lacking the ability to connect people outside of this game)

KZA was a loss not just for our enjoyment but for the dignity and integrity of the town.

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:00 pm Okay caught up on some, skipped ahead on a lot still but wanted to check in

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:27 am Yeah, of the top wagons Imma say Sabie is Dizzy's partner.

Why is Porscha getting no attention?
>"Im not like other girls"

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:32 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:22 pm Like nutella had faced some light shade. It wasn't entirely out of nowhere someone might find her suspicious.
Thoughts on 112?
I have felt off about 112 for a while cuz I thought their interaction during day and then conclusion towards KZA after KZA flipped was weird and I felt like they have been coasting for a while so it's hard for me to feel good about them

i think this is the first post i've managed to catch from you tbh

what do you mean about my conclusion towards kaz after he flipped?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:43 pm Im pretty confident that 112 and Phil are wolves together, less confident that Tony is

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:16 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:13 pm
112 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:02 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy falcon45ca Phil and Gloria Sloonei guillotine sig sabie12 tonystarkprime] aubergine

imo at least one wolf here don't quote me
1/8 pretty bad for town imo
I was thinking 1/8 is a very easy read to fake as wolf.

it was a joke lol

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:58 pm Town - Please stop claiming.

I also don't know if I buy that Sabie claim. How many vigs and cops do we actually have here? I know when I was mafia in Spiderverse playing with soup that my team were pretty liberal with the claiming and it was designed to encourage the town to feel better about their own claiming so I wouldn't be surprised to find that there are wolves inside the existing claims.

but if i claim ppl will stop sussing me?

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:58 pm 112, DrWilgy, LinearPoint, sig, TonyStarkPrime

I think that's where I want to lynch

[VOTE: DrWilgy falcon45ca Phil and Gloria Sloonei guillotine sig sabie12 tonystarkprime] aubergine

imo at least one wolf here don't quote me

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:01 pm
112 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:57 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:16 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:15 pm 112
alexa - Mech and shot town with event vig
Belzy - Mech
c4e5g3d5 - Shot town with event vig
Creature
DrWilgy
dyachei - Shot wolf
falcon45ca
Guillotine - Mech? Meh
hollowkatt - Mech
ilario - Shot wolf
Justplayingitcool
LinearPoint
Master Radishes
Paopan - Mech
Phil and Gloria
Porscha - Mech
sabie12
sig - Shot town
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime
If we assume all mech is legit:

112
c4e5g3d5
Creature
DrWilgy
falcon45ca
Justplayingitcool
LinearPoint
Master Radishes
Phil and Gloria
sabie12
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime
greens are town imo

we have... /our/ poe.
why do you townread tsp

actually a good question

idk

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:16 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:15 pm 112
alexa - Mech and shot town with event vig
Belzy - Mech
c4e5g3d5 - Shot town with event vig
Creature
DrWilgy
dyachei - Shot wolf
falcon45ca
Guillotine - Mech? Meh
hollowkatt - Mech
ilario - Shot wolf
Justplayingitcool
LinearPoint
Master Radishes
Paopan - Mech
Phil and Gloria
Porscha - Mech
sabie12
sig - Shot town
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime
If we assume all mech is legit:

112
c4e5g3d5
Creature
DrWilgy
falcon45ca
Justplayingitcool
LinearPoint
Master Radishes
Phil and Gloria
sabie12
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime

greens are town imo

we have... /our/ poe.

@Master Radishes - falcon asked you about me (i feel like just to make chatter rather than actually caring), but what is your assessment of falcon?

personally i see him as flying a bit under the radar for, like, the whole game now. i feel like if he were town he would have stepped it up for at least 30 minutes here-or-there but he's been a pretty consistent slank engine. i think with so little pressure on him he's just content to continue with what has gotten him this far but idk.

how many ppl does one get to vote for?
5?

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:07 pm Could Mac be deep wolving?

It's highly possible he's wolfing, although I'm not sure I'd call him deep.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:40 pm Pulled votes off TSP, MR and the corpse.

Put votes on P&G and C4

That makes [VOTE: 112, C4, Pao, P&G, and Sabie] aubergine

Mmmm... That's a good list right there it is.

Tell me, WIlgy:
how could 112, who was on Dizzy all game, possibly be wolfing?
sense it makes not.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:52 pm
112 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:51 pm wait nvm he voted wilgy
oof, sorry we gotta yeet you now

wait nvm he voted wilgy

112 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:49 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:11 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:51 pm [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:52 pm [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:53 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:54 pm [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:54 pm [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:55 pm [VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine

Shrugze

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:57 pm [unvote][/unvote]

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:58 pm [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Somewhat wagon purity somewhat science somewhat complicated thoughts I can't explain rn
It's a bit weird like only Belzy, nutella and I publicly expressed our votes on Seanzie. It looks pretty likely Seanzie was a wolf rich wagon.
wait, MR was on that wagon?

he's a wolf.

i promise.

[VOTE: master radishes] aubergine

YEET ME IF I'M WRONG.

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:47 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:47 pm
Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:46 pm anyone played Pokemon Legends: Arceus yet? Is it worth playing
I want to tbh but I’m busy playing mafia
fuck mafia

osrs is where it's at

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:11 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:51 pm [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:52 pm [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:53 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:54 pm [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:54 pm [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:55 pm [VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine

Shrugze

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:57 pm [unvote][/unvote]

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:58 pm [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Somewhat wagon purity somewhat science somewhat complicated thoughts I can't explain rn
It's a bit weird like only Belzy, nutella and I publicly expressed our votes on Seanzie. It looks pretty likely Seanzie was a wolf rich wagon.

wait, MR was on that wagon?

he's a wolf.

i promise.

[VOTE: master radishes] aubergine

112 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:09 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:07 pm This game is painful
everyone's pretty lost i think because there's just so much to read, follow and consider that it's not really possible for a lot of people to get a full view/map of the game

and bcuz of this there's not a lot of teamwork manifesting; we're all just doing our own thing.

or maybe it's just me and i'm projecting onto everyone else lol

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:07 pm This game is painful

everyone's pretty lost i think because there's just so much to read, follow and consider that it's not really possible for a lot of people to get a full view/map of the game

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:04 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:46 pm Why anyone townreads LinearPoint?
Consistently makes pretty natural observations and has given a lot of thoughts

could we unpack this? seems airtight but that might only be because we're talking about the slot with so much brevity like this.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:57 pm [VOTE: 112] aubergine

i would like to say i am flattered but i truthfully have not had a remarkably good or noticeable game. all the same, i think i've done a decent job of projecting town so the recent suspicions on me are kind weird and not something i was expecting to see this round. uhh, i will try to project town better.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:47 pm Great if we have DrWilgy and Dyslexicon then we're already 2/4 decided

dizzy bussing the doc? unheard of.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:59 pm Okay last post then I need to like close this tab so I can finish my fucking work and go to bed.

At the moment I don't know which direction to go in. A lot of my 'hmmm' slots from D1 are now dead town, meaning I've been going wrong somewhere or even in a lot of places. Equally, I've had a few reads that turned out correct, including (most importantly to me) a correct sense that EoD was not going right (I love flash wagons but none of them felt right), and also that I was correct to TR Alison despite my paranoia about doing so too easily. So I can't be a complete moron, I guess.

I don't want to touch slots like Sloonei, Sabie, Porscha, Sig because although I bet there's a wolf or two in that grouping, the whole team isn't, meaning there are active and impactful wolves here in the thread doing things, and those are the ones I want to find first. If we leave them, they go deep and the game gets harder, especially if we misfire on the slanky wolves. Conversely, if we can find a lead wolf or two, we'll have time and space to pick off the hiders.

So my mind is like...'am I sure about nutella, alexa, mac, etc?' And I don't know whether that's my brain screaming at me or pure paranoia. But if it's the latter then where the fuck are the wolves.

This got rambling so I'm stopping now. Whatever purpose I started with is gone.

this seems like a really go-nowhere post

hmmm

i think falcon is keeping his talk so far out of the game-related sphere that he's possibly-to-probably wolfing

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:54 pm
112 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:52 pm seanzie was such a blatantly, ridiculously awful wagon that i'm 99% sure everyone who was on it is town
Mood. I don't really want to do wagon analysis on town wagons. If Wilgy is mafia, it's different. Wilgy is probably mafia.

yes.

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

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