The Syndicate

Anyways were gonna kill scotty then were gonna see his flip and go from there

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:07 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:04 pm Big sighs

Hk why did you think that was going to be a reliable check

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine its also about time for this i think

yeah, that's a big oof on my part

I mean like

The annoying part is that I pointed this out a couple times


I guess tsp was a poe slot anyways so its not the end of the world or a bad shot in a vacuum but yeah kind of irritating on a personal level

Big sighs

Hk why did you think that was going to be a reliable check

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine its also about time for this i think

This game makes my head hurt

Or macs was a trap gun and hk has something like falcons mirror maybe?

I guess that's another trap gun ??

Welp

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:21 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:17 pm Red checks last night are meaningless lol, Michelle had a framer role

I have to reread it but yeah I don't think any checks from last night are reliable

theyre meaningless anyway because insanity

Oh yeah I forgot you said you got a sanity check for someone

All the more reason lol

The killing framer may at night target a player. The killing framer will kill one random person who targets that player with a night action on that same night (except for investigations), in addition to making your target immune to the person's actions that night. If targeted by investigation actions, your target will show as opposite alignment. If targeted by multiple people, no one dies.

This is from Michelle's flip, presumably if she didn't use the replicator this is what she did.

So yeah

Checks last night are not reliable

Red checks last night are meaningless lol, Michelle had a framer role

I have to reread it but yeah I don't think any checks from last night are reliable

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:08 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:04 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:04 pm so on firing my gun I lost all my abilities and they were replaced with the worst abilities I have ever seen in my life.

Although this does sound like a scum handed out gun

Idk if scumHK gives mac a gun but idk who does give mac a gun

Most town gunsmiths would have no?

Yeah I meant "who would give him a gun as mafia"

But it sounds like it was a trap gun so its an irrelevant thought now


I'm not finishing thoughts well at all rn, sorry

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:04 pm so on firing my gun I lost all my abilities and they were replaced with the worst abilities I have ever seen in my life.

Although this does sound like a scum handed out gun

Idk if scumHK gives mac a gun but idk who does give mac a gun

honey wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:59 pm it's a wolf gun i'm sure and hk is confirmed to me now tyvm

Isn't "hk has a vest" or "the gun was faulty" more likely explanations

At least just as likely

I don't particularly find hk scummy but mac probably more reliable read there, I do think there's a good chance there's a pseudo same check with him and scotty tho, so I want to see scotty's flip first


Its not a true same check they could be scumScotty and townHK, I really should say that I think scotty flipping town makes HK significantly more likely to be town given his approach after the prosecute thing was announced, scotty flipping red I dont think has an effect on he's alignment, at least not through that specific lens

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:38 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:35 pm I mean the only time we don't kill scotty today is if we're gonna clear him for the rest of the game

Yea and I’m at peace with that. Don’t see a way to clear myself today lol

My role is pretty bland anyway

Yeah if you're town its a pretty shit position to be in, just do your thing and if you flip green we'll take your legacy into account

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:37 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:35 pm I mean the only time we don't kill scotty today is if we're gonna clear him for the rest of the game

we have just about 40 hours to watch him post, solve, and react to things. I know I know, any wolf worth their salt can be townie as fuck for 48 hours but I'm inclined to think that if he can post himself clear of suspicion then fine, we just lock him town and make wolves kill him.
If he's a wolf i'm sure there's ways we can figure that out

Have to leave more time in the day if we decide to kill him, the coordination to get 8 votes on him at eod and 7 on someone else we want to kill is uh

Not likely to happen lol

Really we should make a decision 24-36 hours into the day so there's enough time to see a flip and adjust accordingly if he's red

I mean the only time we don't kill scotty today is if we're gonna clear him for the rest of the game

Like wait for a legacy or whatever, but yeah, I think we obviously take the free extra kill

Is there...any reason not to take the free kill...or...?

Wot

I'm willing to hear counter arguments but I think that makes it correct to give her immunity tonight in case it's just a day ability

Sorry, thats not really a clear thought, let me try to be a bit clearer. I'm still pretty congested so being coherent is not my current strongsuit

If it removes her just from the day its obviously mafia

If it removes her the same night its used it could go either way (its basically a pseudo doc if town has it)

If it removes her the following night it could go either way, but more likely to be mafia cause of target choice (Alison too high a chance to be n1 nk)


So yeah. There are worlds where kidnapping is a town ability used as a pseudo doc, but looking at these...on balance I think the world's where its mafia sided are more likely, and Alison was unlikely to ever be in danger today or get shot at night (making her an odd choice if mafia wanted to use it on one of their own), so she's probably just town

I mean, its not entirely clear to me that kidnapping has to be scumsided, it prooooobably is, but if you're town with that role who else are you gonna target this early in the game you know? So yeah. Its probably a mafia role but without knowing the exact details its potentially not, if it removes the player at night too

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:41 pm Should we be voting alison for NK immunity if she's kidnapped?

If we're assuming mafia did it then yeah probably better to be safe

Idk how kidnapping works wrt what phases exactly it affects, id guess probably next day/night (ie d2 and n2), but...yeah, idk, bastard guillo game so hard to say

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:56 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:49 am Hm

Thats not how I interpreted it but its...reasonable

Here is a link to a Guillo game where Owner got replicatored and flipped as a "town replicator": https://www.mafiacafe.net/forum/standar ... #post13642

Note: the BAD KILLERS in that game were actually town (the GOOD KILLERS were mafia)

I think Michelle was most likely mafia.

Ok

I'm still not going to 100% lock it in, but yeah, that's compelling enough for me to take it at face value

Hm

Thats not how I interpreted it but its...reasonable

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:43 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:40 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:34 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:25 am I've actually read the flips now lol

Maybe you guys should too

Michelle may still be mafia given falcons role, but its not a sure thing

I don't see what Falcon's role has to do with this?

Even though Michelle flipped Replicator, which is a bastard role that makes it hard to figure out what Michelle truly was, based on the info, it seems very likely Michelle was was indeed mafia.

Are you talking about Michelle having post-mortem powers?

I'm not? What?

Falcon had the mirror thing so that lessens the chance he was a vig shot/increases the chance he was NKed, although if it was an activated passive that probably doesn't matter.

Michelle's flip is totally unreliable, and frankly between her and falcon in a vacuum she's way more likely to be nked imo

So yeah, there's definitely a chance she was mafia, but I don't think its anything approaching a sure thing

Why is Michelles flip totally unreliable? And in what universe is Michelle a likely NK?
None of this makes sense

In what universe is FALCON a more likely NK?

And her flip is totally unreliable because of the role she flipped, go read it again lol

Idk how you guys see Michelle's flip and think "yes that's definitely mafia no room for doubt" lol

Like yeah, maybe she was, im probably soft cleared if she was so that would be doubly nice, but read the flip, look at the other person that died, and its pretty clear that Michelle can't be locked in as a true flip

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:34 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:25 am I've actually read the flips now lol

Maybe you guys should too

Michelle may still be mafia given falcons role, but its not a sure thing

I don't see what Falcon's role has to do with this?

Even though Michelle flipped Replicator, which is a bastard role that makes it hard to figure out what Michelle truly was, based on the info, it seems very likely Michelle was was indeed mafia.

Are you talking about Michelle having post-mortem powers?

I'm not? What?

Falcon had the mirror thing so that lessens the chance he was a vig shot/increases the chance he was NKed, although if it was an activated passive that probably doesn't matter.

Michelle's flip is totally unreliable, and frankly between her and falcon in a vacuum she's way more likely to be nked imo

So yeah, there's definitely a chance she was mafia, but I don't think its anything approaching a sure thing

I've actually read the flips now lol

Maybe you guys should too

Michelle may still be mafia given falcons role, but its not a sure thing

Nice

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:00 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:57 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:55 am

Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:48 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:55 am

Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:04 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:35 am 6. @Flea the Magician ISO - 18 p, feels like a lazy town, but i can't put him above null rn, i would like him to post more, and to give some inputs

they/them pronouns Thank you <3

Sumimasen, i will try to keep it in mind. Playing on phone I can't see the pronouns part

Other than this, do you have any opinion about what i posted?

Honestly, I'm not a big fan of your list personally. Your method seems to be that you're a townhunter/poe type of player, which is always going have people looking at you suspiciously - and your list doesn't seem to fully have that conviction I'd expect from a townhunter.

your strongest read doesn't seem to be that strong, which is the biggest concern. (75% is not a strong read for a town hunter.)

75% is huge in day 1

75% is very close to (often below) rand in most games lol

It's about my read accuracy, not the general probability of a slot to be scum

Have you read anything from the thread?

A 75% accurate read is the same as not having a read lol

And some here and there, not much tbh

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:55 am

Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:48 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:55 am

Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:04 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:35 am 6. @Flea the Magician ISO - 18 p, feels like a lazy town, but i can't put him above null rn, i would like him to post more, and to give some inputs

they/them pronouns Thank you <3

Sumimasen, i will try to keep it in mind. Playing on phone I can't see the pronouns part

Other than this, do you have any opinion about what i posted?

Honestly, I'm not a big fan of your list personally. Your method seems to be that you're a townhunter/poe type of player, which is always going have people looking at you suspiciously - and your list doesn't seem to fully have that conviction I'd expect from a townhunter.

your strongest read doesn't seem to be that strong, which is the biggest concern. (75% is not a strong read for a town hunter.)

75% is huge in day 1

75% is very close to (often below) rand in most games lol

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:36 am

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:53 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:01 pm Hi everyone, I'm low activity the rest of rl today, will be able to play more tomorrow and moving forward

Me and Mac are scumreading the same person. Sheep us.

That seems good enough

Who is it

Nvm i see the votecount

[VOTE: enderwiggin] aubergine

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:53 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:01 pm Hi everyone, I'm low activity the rest of rl today, will be able to play more tomorrow and moving forward

Me and Mac are scumreading the same person. Sheep us.

That seems good enough

Who is it

Tbf the uno reverse is an entirely valid strategy

Thats what the frankly alarming amounts of dayquil and cough drops are for

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:03 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:11 pm

honey wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:07 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:03 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:43 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:39 pm you're just flooding the thread with far too much fluff and bs

Who is this?

Honey. I find the gamestate hard to deal with because of it.

are you going to keep whining about it or are you going to steer the game in the direction you want cos i only see u doing one of these things
u act like im singularly holding this game hostage and i assure u im not lol

are u a newbie player too mac?

Mac is definitely a newbie player, and I'm sure he would be super appreciative if you took him under your wing and gave him guidance on how to best approach the game

Nanook with the best post in the thread by far.

Ty i try

osieorb18 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:59 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:53 pmSuper unlikely unless you like slanking and memes

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:53 pmSuper unlikely unless you like slanking

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:53 pmunlikely unless you like slanking

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:53 pmunless you like slanking

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:53 pmslanking

Still sick

osieorb18 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:25 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:11 pm

honey wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:07 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:03 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:43 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:39 pm you're just flooding the thread with far too much fluff and bs

Who is this?

Honey. I find the gamestate hard to deal with because of it.

are you going to keep whining about it or are you going to steer the game in the direction you want cos i only see u doing one of these things
u act like im singularly holding this game hostage and i assure u im not lol

are u a newbie player too mac?

Mac is definitely a newbie player, and I'm sure he would be super appreciative if you took him under your wing and gave him guidance on how to best approach the game

NANOOK!

Are you going to post your way into my heart this game?

Super unlikely unless you like slanking and memes

honey wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:07 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:03 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:43 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:39 pm you're just flooding the thread with far too much fluff and bs

Who is this?

Honey. I find the gamestate hard to deal with because of it.

are you going to keep whining about it or are you going to steer the game in the direction you want cos i only see u doing one of these things
u act like im singularly holding this game hostage and i assure u im not lol

are u a newbie player too mac?

Mac is definitely a newbie player, and I'm sure he would be super appreciative if you took him under your wing and gave him guidance on how to best approach the game

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:08 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:51 pm Ok I'm here for a little bit, someone tell me who to sheep

Mac, duh!

Just kidding.. form your own reads smh

Seems unlikely

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:51 pm Ok I'm here for a little bit, someone tell me who to sheep

This was a lie I got distracted

Ok I'm here for a little bit, someone tell me who to sheep

Hi everyone, I'm low activity the rest of rl today, will be able to play more tomorrow and moving forward