The Syndicate

I’m sorry Jules I feel bad

Honestly I feel worse for tony than I do for myself

I was briefly very happy when tony voted 112

Then returned to crushing disappointment

That’s right I’m gonna AtE you even in postgame

Thanks for the game gman!

I’m sorry scirrus

Could be cause Tony was saying "I'm only killing Nanook ever," that might increase your confidence

Idk what I could’ve done differently in f3. I regret killing mp before 112, tbh I thought it was that or me tho so

We were so, so close

Such a stupid ending. I’m town, I hope to fuck there wasn’t a town PR and you’re just mafia

This is what I get for using question marks to indicate tone I guess

You know 112 is the right choice you’re just insistent on tunneling me for whatever reason

Which is stupid cause this started at a point when we had the exact same vote history but whatever

I didn’t forget it? I was literally pointing it out to you lol

Soneji literally flipped mafia PR what

You know for all my bitching about not making it to f3’s I forgot how much they kinda suck lulz

You and me both buddy

Scum PR is already dead yeah?

*you

If I customize the lyrics to baby come back will that convince your

You were so close

I can see you’re trying to turn this into “nanook doesn’t have an argument he’s just empty AtE-ing,” and I’m cutting that off at the pass lol. I think I’ve made a pretty good case for why I’m town and why you’re scum, it’s admittedly easier for me to see since I already have the answer but I think I’ve laid it out reasonably well for tony tbh

My AtE was solely to get tony to pay attention fwiw, I have a lot of actual good logic backing my arguments

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:38 pm Wait that's 9:51? Yeah I'll be here. Please have something townie. Just something amazing.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:20 pm also it seems sort of staged, but maybe sort of real?

It’s a bit exaggerated maybe, tbf. I AM frustrated, but I played it up a bit to get your attention since it seemed like the game was just coasting to a loss. If you’re gonna vote for me fine whatever but I’d like 112 to at least have to work a little bit for the win

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:00 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:41 pm Yes you fucking idiots it’s a no kill

What the actual fuck

a display of emotion here maybe good, but it's generally in an interaction with Sloonei. Whatever.

To the linki point, sure, but your only interaction involving Jules day 1 is defending her. You mention at no time any sort of scum read there.

Well...yeah? Wanting not to kill someone D1 and harping about how scummy they are pretty antithetical, no?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:49 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:33 pm My no kill list currently stands as

Jules/nova/112/Epi/sloonei/scirrus/Dizzy*/MP

*I generally am in favor of killing 3p claims but I like dizzy and I empathize with their plight if their claim is true and I feel like it's pointless to try and kill them before D4 anyways, so I'm just putting them on my no kill list and leaving it at that.

Nanook claimed to be suspicious of Jules from d1. This doesn't seem to be true generally

I think I made it clear that my no kill list was different from all being townreads? I talked about why I didn’t want to kill Jules D1 on d2 at least, I’m sure

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:21 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:19 am

Scirrus wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:02 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:40 am @Scirrus besides them apparently being sort by post count, do you have actual objections to my no kill list? Do you think I have someone in the list that shouldn’t be?

If this is for D1, I'm actually fine with everyone in your list, except Sloonei. Like a lot of people think Sloonei is playing to his scum meta. So that qualifies them as a good lynch candidate at least imo. I wouldn't be super upset about lynching Dizzy either but there's the chance of his claim about not dying until N3 could be telling the truth?

I wouldn't like...hard clear most people in your giant list, because the chance of a misclear isn't that low when we're working with so many actives. But it's a good place to start

I mean yeah, it’s a D1 starting point, I’m not hard locking and never reconsidering, but you gotta start somewhere!

I pretty firmly believe in keeping sloonei alive until D3 at least

this is aggressive defense. probably exactly in Nanook's wolf range.

This is a continual pet peeve of mine, I’d like for everyone to get together and decide whether they’re going to scumread me for being wrong on scum or for being right on scum, cause I currently get scumread for both and it’s mildly irritating.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:20 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 6:02 am But yeah, I mean, 112 has been invested in exactly two TKs, sloonei over soneji D3 and MP over me D5. These are exactly the kills 112 has to be invested in as mafia, yeah? Sloonei over soneji to keep their PR alive, and MP over me cause a TSP/Nanook/112 f3 is exponentially more winnable than any combination of Mac/TSP/MP/112.

(I'm going to correct this in my head.)
It's a good point, but consider that 112 has had you listed as a top town read all game. It's very believable that 112 would rather chop MP over you in any circumstance.

Sure, fine, whatever, in isolation it makes sense. I’d still argue that caring for 2/5 of the TKs and those 2 TKs being exactly the ones scum needs to care about is scummy regardless of whatever setup work they did. Their vote was literally only relevant when it absolutely had to be, that isn’t townie!

Btw this post viewtopic.php?f=100&t=1892&p=614991#p614991 and the one immediately after it existing is kind of scummy imo when 112 hasn’t participated in a single EOD.

But yeah, I mean, 112 has been invested in exactly two TKs, sloonei over soneji D3 and MP over me D5. These are exactly the kills 112 has to be invested in as mafia, yeah? Sloonei over soneji to keep their PR alive, and MP over me cause a TSP/Nanook/112 f3 is exponentially more winnable than any combination of Mac/Nanook/MP/112.

I mean if 112 had done literally anything else this entire game it wouldn’t really be a point, but they haven’t so it is

It’s also obviously not something they’re going to bring up, lol

*flipped as

Sloonei over soneji is not equal, soneji flipped was the (presumably one and only) mafia PR.

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention]

(on a personal side note, I'm no longer going to doubt my early gut 112 read when I have a strong one, 3/3 is enough to pretend it's a meaningful sample size)

Our EOD voting records are basically the same btw...Wilgy D1, Sprityo d2, Soneji D3, Scirrus D4. Our only difference is D5, you voted me I voted MP.

While we're on voting, 112's only scum push this entire game was sloonei over soneji...and soneji flipped as a mafia PR. Like for fuck's sake, 112 has 106 posts this game, their only meaningful vote was to kill goon Sloonei over mafia PR soneji*, I've been wrong but at least I've been out here making pushes and reads and playing the game.


Or we can talk about how if I'm mafia, trying to kill FG (who was hard TRing me IIRC), hard pushing MP who was actively trying to see me as town at 5, then NKing Mac over the PR claim that said they're always voting me is fucking insane. I get the WIFOM argument or whatever, but fuck that, sometimes you have to look at actions and go "Hm, that doesn't make any goddamn sense." This isn't Covid mafia where scum just needed to get to f3 to win, it's near-confirmed that the last mafia isn't a PR. And yet, when f3 comes along and you're hard claiming PR, do I CC you, the person that has been calling for my kill? NO! I claim vanilla! Cause that's a thing that scum do, right? Right???


This is getting fucking ridiculous, you started hard scumreading me yesterday for having the exact same voting record as you, you're keeping your blinders on despite the amount of evidence that says I'm not scum I'm just town playing a mostly shitty game, and on top of that I'm getting annoyed that you're not even making 112 try at f3 you're just letting them continue to say nothing and slank into a win. You know their voting record is worse than ours? Worse! It's literally one person Dizzy wagon D1, one person MP wagon D2, mafia goon sloonei over mafia PR soneji on D3, 2 person MP wagon D4. That's disgusting! How are you looking at those votes and going "yes, that is what a townie vote record looks like" to the point you're not even questioning it even a little bit????!!! It's fucking baffling to me.


It almost makes me hope we're in the 1% world where town doesn't have a PR and you're just mafia, but alas I doubt that and we're just in the boring frustrating gamethrowing world instead.


*technically they also helped kill MP yesterday, tbf. Almost like they were setting up for this f3 and that's why they left the claimed PR alive

By which I mean it’s slightly annoying that I’m sitting here twiddling my thumbs saying “what can I do to help you?” and watching 112 slank to victory

This is both cool and fun

I’m most likely going to attempt to pass out pretty soon, ping me with whatever and I’ll answer it later tonight or tomorrow morning!

Idk, if you’re locked in let me know, otherwise I can try to help you find me however you want/need. I’m not really sure what to say beyond that tbh, I’ve made my cases, I can’t super complain about losing tbh cause I fucked up on Jules/scirrus/MP so it is what it is.

I guess I could argue that my play if I’m a wolf only gets me to f3 but doesn’t win it? Like, I get there’s WIFOM here, but I think if I’m a wolf my actions make little sense from the FG kill on, yeah? Like...I’m actively sabotaging my wincon if I go with a sequence of [try to NK FG, push MP over 112, NK Mac], yeah? It gets scumNanook to f3 sure, but it almost always loses it for me lol


You should probably also be asking why you’re alive after claiming PR yesterday.

Your votes at least were drifty, which I saw yesterday and should’ve stuck with tbh

Maybe, idk, that isn’t how I remember it but it was a year ago

Eh, I don’t think that’s actually true, IIRC from wildcards last year you were fairly lost when not bussing.

I’ll be around probably around then or a bit later

I likely won’t have more out than I already do tbh, unless you have questions for me, I’ve already done my solving yesterday to find the right POE and it was correct, so

I know NKA is meh but also, like, look at the last two kills, especially the Mac one, if I’m scum you don’t survive last night lol

Shit wrong thread lol

[please note that night will end one way or the other as soon as I have all actions and concert votes in]

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:07 pm Nanook, it's hard to attack you for your voting record since it's mostly the same as mine. But can you explain a bit more why you made the choices you did? Do you remember why you found sprit scummy on d2?

I thought Jules was kinda scummy D1 (I lied about this D1 cause I like playing with Jules lol), the way she was sort of proactively pushing reads and questions seemed different to the way I’ve seen her in the past, which is kind of...uh, not passively exactly, but with a bit less assertion/fewer early reads, I think? So that read existed, then she subbed out and that kind of increased my SR a bit to be totally honest, and sprit didn’t really do anything that changed my mind. So yeah, didn’t really find sprit himself explicitly scummy tbh, that read was all about Jules (sorry Jules).

Welp, I’m glad I at least had the nova/tony hard TR correct from early. If you have questions or whatever for me then I’m happy to answer, if you’re locked in we don’t have to bother. Would be nice to get a win but if you just have blinders on I don’t like wasting time

Checked to make sure I wasn’t forgetting something, I see all VT flips so yeah, this is cool

[mention]112[/mention] claim PR or VT

When did that get there

Ok, I believe you for now! This is great, I’m VT, lets see who 112 wants to 1v1 with