The Syndicate

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:36 pm

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:32 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:23 pm if people dont post themselves clear i cant clear them

I would but I'm doing a lot of jury work plus law school prep and searching. Which is not at all AI, more just me apologizing for the relative dearth of posts and info.

no worries, i get people can be busy

question though: i feel like its now a couple of times where you pop in to respond to a very recent post

are you watching the thread and not commenting?

More that when I start feeling burned out on writing I pop over to this tab to do catchup and reset on that front a bit.

Where I feel I need to give some show that I'm alive despite not really wanting to write long posts. So it's more that I'm commenting only when I'm reading the thread? If that makes sense.

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:23 pm if people dont post themselves clear i cant clear them

I would but I'm doing a lot of jury work plus law school prep and searching. Which is not at all AI, more just me apologizing for the relative dearth of posts and info.

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:03 am

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:02 am

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:56 am
she sorta did it with me/fg but less so?

Ughhhhhh. The lack of flip info with fg makes that far more ambiguous than I like.

i kinda doubt she is w/w with fg anyway just from their interactions? so that probably wasnt a case of her chaining me to a teammate either

Okay, you've read more than I have and have the real time interactions that flow differently. I'll take your word on that interaction grouping since I've got too much of a headache to deep dive right now.

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:56 am
she sorta did it with me/fg but less so?

Ughhhhhh. The lack of flip info with fg makes that far more ambiguous than I like.

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:45 am

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:42 am

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:34 am

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:32 am

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:26 am @Pawn Lelouch where are your reads at now?

Rougher than I'd like, I need to get to the point where I can feel comfortable figuring out where I lean on my 3 nulls for now. Otherwise, I feel solid overall on this grouping.

Town:
Hally
Wisp
Spacedaisy
Longcon

Town Lean:
Jay
Epi

Null:
sabie
kitsu
TSP

Scum Lean:
Alison
Drwilgy
Colin

Scum: N/A currently

why is alison so low?

Combo of trying to lightly push against the SD clear, heavily pushing for pre flip associations earlier which is usually an easy wolf tactic to get credit or try and setup auto yeet chains, and while her point about Epi recently is a good one and mitigates my last point somewhat, I just don't like how she handled Epi's slot. It felt like she was trying to solve him and more that she was trying to shade with hypotheticals rather than anything concrete.

Overall, its more than enough to bump her to scum lean for me.

well lc is town so alison couldnt have been trying to chain jay to him post flip by pushing them as w/w

does this change anything for you?

If that was the only one she did then yeah, it does end up pushing her back up to null again. The SD bit is a point against her but not enough for a full drop, considering the Epi bit is mitigated recently.

But I could have sworn she had done it to more than just that pair? Am I misremembering there?

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:34 am

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:32 am

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:26 am @Pawn Lelouch where are your reads at now?

Rougher than I'd like, I need to get to the point where I can feel comfortable figuring out where I lean on my 3 nulls for now. Otherwise, I feel solid overall on this grouping.

Town:
Hally
Wisp
Spacedaisy
Longcon

Town Lean:
Jay
Epi

Null:
sabie
kitsu
TSP

Scum Lean:
Alison
Drwilgy
Colin

Scum: N/A currently

why is alison so low?

Combo of trying to lightly push against the SD clear, heavily pushing for pre flip associations earlier which is usually an easy wolf tactic to get credit or try and setup auto yeet chains, and while her point about Epi recently is a good one and mitigates my last point somewhat, I just don't like how she handled Epi's slot. It felt like she was trying to solve him and more that she was trying to shade with hypotheticals rather than anything concrete.

Overall, its more than enough to bump her to scum lean for me.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:27 am

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:27 am Also @TonyStarkPrime you really do not want to be anime/Fate Jack the Ripper. That's something that no one deserves and Jack isn't sadistic enough to put in this game off the character design alone.

uhh.. what happens to me

Just don't ever look up the design, for the sake of your own sanity if nothing else.

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:26 am @Pawn Lelouch where are your reads at now?

Rougher than I'd like, I need to get to the point where I can feel comfortable figuring out where I lean on my 3 nulls for now. Otherwise, I feel solid overall on this grouping.

Town:
Hally
Wisp
Spacedaisy
Longcon

Town Lean:
Jay
Epi

Null:
sabie
kitsu
TSP

Scum Lean:
Alison
Drwilgy
Colin

Scum: N/A currently

Also [mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] you really do not want to be anime/Fate Jack the Ripper. That's something that no one deserves and Jack isn't sadistic enough to put in this game off the character design alone.

Wisp wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:08 am Someone tell me if that vote from Epi is the kind of stupid shit he would push as town?

The grammar/word placement stuff? Yeah, I remember that from Epi a lot during Inception. Its NAI as far as I know.

And so its looking like Hally/Wisp are lock cleared based off of how they've acted regarding their claims and powers. LC is like 90% cleared off it, the only reason I'm not making it a guarantee is that mechanics seem to be fucky on that front considering the amount of claimed millers. Still, basically never hit this.

SD is like 85% town. Just because what is the point? Why does she make that claim as mafia, its just a potential anchor dragging her down long term. She has a baseline competence from what I've seen, so I just don't see what's the point. What mindset or perspective makes this worthwhile as mafia?

So functionally 4 clears. Its a damn good position for us to start D2 in.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:56 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:56 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:55 pm Alison has moved *slightly* down for me tbh

why?

She hates angleshooting and what we were doing was fairly close to it

And you believe that hate is inherently alignment based? Meaning she wouldn't do it as town but would as mafia or 3P?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:36 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:34 am I’m not anticipating a single cop existing in this game tbh

I’m pretty annoyed we didn’t get those extra 10 minutes I was planning a “naw we’re just killing LC” swing back, and now we have no flip at all. Not great.

Actually it is a good thing. And that's kind of uncalled for and suspicious. Why add chaos intentionally to the end of the day? How is that even remotely town?

Directed chaos forces urgency. Urgency means people have less time to plan posts, so anything they say usually has higher odds of being more genuine than most other posts, even as town, since there is still going to be less of the normal proofreading, sentence structure work, etc. If you want to get honesty out of players and force people to take sides? It's a good way to do it and fits perfectly well as a town play, especially if onto someone that is a suspect.

Even accounting for your viewpoint being biased by not wanting to go down, I don't get how and why you're unable to see any sort of town intention within the play. It's off to say the least considering that its obvious.

Also hey Wisp, it'll be fun to finally play a game with you. ^_^

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:37 am

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:34 am I will note that 1 wolf in that duo seems more likely than both fmpov. That dynamic shown from the quote lists from Jay seems too blatant and forced for a pair of wolves to feel like its a good idea. Tying themselves together like that will inevitably lead to both falling toogether eventually. There's too much attention on them, it just is never worth it.

yo pawn! you been keeping up with game?

Not really, unfortunately. Been bogged down with jury, LSAT prep, trying to do law school research, and flat out not realizing the game had started yet. Gonna try and do some proper reading in the morning to catch up.

I will note that 1 wolf in that duo seems more likely than both fmpov. That dynamic shown from the quote lists from Jay seems too blatant and forced for a pair of wolves to feel like its a good idea. Tying themselves together like that will inevitably lead to both falling toogether eventually. There's too much attention on them, it just is never worth it.