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by iaafr
Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:21 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

iaafr wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:18 am
Michelle wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:17 am iaafr speculating about a mera he doesn't know a thing smh

self meta is trash. my MU profile has all my games, i had time to put links and alignaments until summer.

You as player can't read me and your read is so much based on meta?
hey

what are your reads

remember to abide by this gameday's rules

if youre listing scumreads you need to list 3+ without showing order between them
3+ scumreads who are in this group that is, ones that arent here wont count towards the 3
by iaafr
Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:18 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

Michelle wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:17 am iaafr speculating about a mera he doesn't know a thing smh

self meta is trash. my MU profile has all my games, i had time to put links and alignaments until summer.

You as player can't read me and your read is so much based on meta?
hey

what are your reads

remember to abide by this gameday's rules

if youre listing scumreads you need to list 3+ without showing order between them
by iaafr
Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:16 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

Michelle wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:14 am morning. still at page 1. this page is just pure fluff mostly you guys are bored or what?
no reaction to what just happened to the gamestate...?
by iaafr
Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:12 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

112 - trust with my life until i betray in maybe 2-3 game days

Dom - pingiest scummiest player this round so far

Epignosis - insane amount of overnight work that seems genuine, a lot of conclusions line up with mine and the ones that dont are reasonable. gave me pause on TSP tbh, which should give me pause on quin. can't actually dig up the interaction that made me think not w/w between tsp/quin, but yeah.

Evenstar - still seems more casual than her scumgame in some ways, but... mild pause...?

iaafr - lock scum

Jackofhearts2005 - unimpressed with light shade / joking at me claiming i solved the game ( i mean i posted the fruits of my isoing everybody in two separate lists pretty much), dunno how im supposed to evaluate. also now that im scumreading creature for other reasons, jack coming out with a confident townread on them feels weird. but idk, my whole impression of the jack/creature thing is still pretty fuzzy. would reread more if i could.

Lady LambdaDelta - exists

MacDougall - think he's town for a bunch of emotional reactions to how he was pushed d1 and annoyed by evenstar today, very comfortable in thread, blah blah blah

Master Radishes - was sussing overnight because of bad progressions to votes d1 and a few scumpings for like... projecting that he wanted others' opinions on stuff in a scummy way, but his work today gives me pause? i kinda liked his analysis of EOD votes, but then EOD analysis is some of the easiest to fake. still one of my more suspected players overall.

Michelle - still kinda think shes scum? ive been on the fence with her the entire game because... i mean her town game has a decent amount of questions which i don't see the value of, but her game this game feels like 80+% questions i dont see the value of, and more of them as a proportion of posts than usual? maybe im just misremembering though. ive only played like 2 games with her, and she was slanky in one (sonic 3/21) and died early in another (d6 light).

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - lead the drago push; unassailable; the most towny town

novaselinenever - i kinda liked his posts today lol. also interactions with dom, assuming im right on scumreading dom, look kinda good...?

Pawn Lelouch - my scum partner, should probably stop shading him soon

Quin - i cleared him overnight for pushing TSP in a not w/w way, but if TSP is town, could easily be a scum

Rej / ColinIsCool - no fuckin clue

sprityo - the whole obsession with being ML'd d1... keep wavering hardcore on whether to find it towny or scummy. level 1 says towny. not really where i wanna look, but... its possible i end up here?

bottom 4 would be

dom, jack, michelle, quin...?

still kinda copouty but its a large game im inclined to want to kill the people playing less
by iaafr
Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:59 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

staycations are nice tho

figure out something to do thats somewhat special somewhere closeby
by iaafr
Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:52 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

condolences; hope you find it and find time for a vacation soon
by iaafr
Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:43 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

true true
by iaafr
Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:37 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

Pawn Lelouch wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:35 am
iaafr wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:32 am that reminds me, I should start logging on as invis, so i, deepest scum player who intends to endgame, cannot be angleshot
I thought we agreed I'd be the deepest scum player after I bus Dom since I had the Drago cred from bussing since Hour 1?
youd be sus as hell in endgame dude it's always the sloppiest active wolf who endgames this is wolfing 101
by iaafr
Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:32 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

that reminds me, I should start logging on as invis, so i, deepest scum player who intends to endgame, cannot be angleshot
by iaafr
Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:50 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

Pawn Lelouch wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:40 am Also I kind of have a angleshooty read on one of the left behind players. Should I say it or keep quiet?
Im suppressing angleshoot reads personally but u do u

also not giving you cred for asking this because I know some players who like to towntell by talking about angly reads (knightsofneeee in particular)
by iaafr
Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:44 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

yeah his grilling of epi on that stuff feels potentially Towny?

does this guy usually voice suspicion by repeating that he doesn't trust somebody? it just feels like he's trying to look like he has a strong sus rather than organically developing it
by iaafr
Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:36 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

I meant that exact call-out as indicative of starting to fencesit on bussing or getting cred if you have to

but yea could be barking up wrong tree.
by iaafr
Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:26 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

the main issue I have with pawn is a negative space one where I'd assume he has more takes on my actual takes but he seems cagey

also this whole dom push on me is obviously scummy and scum pawn would be aware of that and it feels like he's on the fence about that too
by iaafr
Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:20 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

the push itself was Towny on its own tok
by iaafr
Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:19 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

quin pushed tsp in a not aligned way imo so I have him clear assuming tsp scum
by iaafr
Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:10 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

pawn wheres your needle on me rn

I keep getting vibes you're the TMI bussy scum in this game, any way for me to rule that out?
by iaafr
Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:07 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

oh right green is off topic not host announcement

anyway

the correct verdict on me is town or at least a daypass

gonna keep scumclaiming now that I've broken the scumclaim seal though it's a biological imperative that's hard to avoid
by iaafr
Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:03 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

am I gonna get to see my sweet sweet >w<
by iaafr
Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:01 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

oh is this thread gonna disappear now
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:54 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

idk how the nks work in this game but epi, from his work this sod, has probably moved to will self resolve tier

and I think I still overall had him as likely town anyway so
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:40 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

Dom wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:39 pm
iaafr wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:36 pm 1. I am scum, which you are correctly suspecting.
2. I have a scum agenda to deflect suspicion
3. this will consist of me disagreeing with you on every point you make.

capiche?
...does this work for you where you normally play?
I have a decent winrate but never tracked closely.
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:36 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

1. I am scum, which you are correctly suspecting.
2. I have a scum agenda to deflect suspicion
3. this will consist of me disagreeing with you on every point you make.

capiche?
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:31 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

Dom wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:28 pm
iaafr wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:27 pm
Lady LambdaDelta wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:23 pm This is a game.

If they're gonnna fuck with us with "you're not allowed to catch up on a game and read old posts you missed"

then why not abuse their fucking system
cuz I like abiding by spirit of intent. the one thing I can agree with Dom on.
you met me like two days ago bro you might be surprised what else we agree onk
I've already decided my scum agenda for dealing with your player slot is to literally disagree on everything so that ain't happening.
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:29 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

Dom wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:28 pm i don't trust someone who civ red, then on a flip baddie read, then civ read, then baddie read, then no voted on the baddie lynch we have.
strong post very powerful
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:27 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:23 pm This is a game.

If they're gonnna fuck with us with "you're not allowed to catch up on a game and read old posts you missed"

then why not abuse their fucking system
cuz I like abiding by spirit of intent. the one thing I can agree with Dom on.
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:24 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

oh man it just actually hit me that we can't see the d1?

or can we? I thought somebody said we could?
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:23 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

uh edited the middle of that sentence and then couldn't find the right wording then hit post

u know what I mean
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:22 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:20 pm What stops people from doing

"here is a lynch list of 3:

Player A
Player B
Player C"

new post
"here is a lynch list of 3:

Player A
Player D
Player E"

"Here is a lynch list of 3:

Player A
Player F
Player G"
yes I also thought of this as a caveat of a that I literally typically organically do

I'm just going to try to avoid it by avoiding making lists of 3 until near eod
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:18 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

haha yes
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:12 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

112 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:11 pm
Dom wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:09 pm
iaafr wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:06 pm I was complaining about the weird turn of events

all out d2 is a hypothetical where we had the whole playerlist and weren't restricted by strange rules

I wasn't complaining about the threadstate given the restrictions, I was complaining about the restrictions and the playerpool getting fucked with

but sure yea double down on your bad reading comprehension dude
"my opponents are mean and critiquing me! but they are also illiterate!"

Decide if you're on the civility police task force or not. Your meaning was far from clear. Get over yourself.

You seem to have an awful lot of time to complain about me, but none to rebut Epi's claims that you have quarreled with almost nothing specifically.

Image
iaafr let's get this guy

he's trying to beat your spirit down imo

don't fall for it
I mean yeah I think his angle and approach is scummy too but I don't wanna try talking about reads when I'm on mobile shit gets frustrating fast

but yes appreciate the support
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:11 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

hey it's a pet peeve when people attack me on misunderstandings

getting peeved by that and getting peeved by people in dynamics without any misunderstandings essentially attacking me apropos of nothing isn't a contradiction

epi doesn't even have a conclusion on me and I made it clear 3 posts ago I don't have time for meaty shit I'm just realtiming the bullshit I can respond meaningfully to on mobile which is mostly you making shit up about what I'm sayijg
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:06 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

I was complaining about the weird turn of events

all out d2 is a hypothetical where we had the whole playerlist and weren't restricted by strange rules

I wasn't complaining about the threadstate given the restrictions, I was complaining about the restrictions and the playerpool getting fucked with

but sure yea double down on your bad reading comprehension dude
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:04 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

112 is town I can tell from the thickness of the irony and also from everything else and I'm a god
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:59 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

I didn't complain about lack of content anywhere what the fuck dude
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:59 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

it's not about scumreads on me

it's about potshots on my ability

you seem to have reading comprehension issues
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:49 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

MacDougall wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:48 pm
iaafr wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:45 pm
iaafr wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:44 pm I got evenstars backhanding my reads and epi talking to me like I don't know how voting works

how about nobody talk about me ever and maybe I can start enjoying myself
I am so confused right now. We cool here. You wan hug?
what's confusing? I'm spelling out why I'm having issues enjoying this game

you and I are cool
I am just confused why you are letting those two get to you, come over here and help me find badders instead.
I'm busy at work I'm skimming and pretty much only reacting to what gets a rise out of me

I'll full force later, probably by contrasting my takes with epis on his cases
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:48 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

112 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:48 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:33 pm
112 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:27 pm remember when i used one of my last posts last round to put drago in a list of five potential players i thought could be scum?

there's no world in which i'm wolfing, basically
Oh no, one of five players that can be scum in a 30 player game. Such majesty and towniness.

If you want to argue for being town there are a hell of a lot better avenues and arguments than that to attempt.
do you know who doesn't get sarcasm?

wolves. :mafia:
:hmmyes:
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:47 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

MacDougall wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:45 pm
iaafr wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:44 pm I got evenstars backhanding my reads and epi talking to me like I don't know how voting works

how about nobody talk about me ever and maybe I can start enjoying myself
I am so confused right now. We cool here. You wan hug?
what's confusing? I'm spelling out why I'm having issues enjoying this game

you and I are cool
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:44 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

I got evenstars backhanding my reads and epi talking to me like I don't know how voting works

how about nobody talk about me ever and maybe I can start enjoying myself
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:43 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

Dom wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:40 pm
iaafr wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:07 pm wish I was part of the fun group
Do the people bitching about the lack of content know they can generate content and aren't dependent on others to do so and therefore I suspect them since they seem to want others to take the lead for them and be their fall guy?

@Epignosis what say you?
how the fuck is that post about lack of content what the fuck
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:38 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

well postironic
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:36 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

I'm reading that post as facetious
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:07 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

wish I was part of the fun group
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:04 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

Epignosis wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:40 pm
iaafr wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:34 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:33 pm
iaafr wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:33 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:31 pm @iaafr can you explain why you dropped out altogether?
for fun

i never intended to stay on 112, i wanted to make the wagon look viable and like i would townread people for joining it

getting on scum lynches is boring and might give me too much cred to live
That would require you to know who the scum are?
drago was obvscum in my book
Nobody else can read your book, and even if they could, it means nothing. If things had gone even a little bit differently, Dragomir might not have been lynched.

Please vote if you are a civilian unless it's endgame and no lynch makes sense. If you are bad, cool. Don't vote.
my point is I would've voted if I thought my vote would matter

it didn't

fuck off with your unsolicited advice
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:04 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

I was actually so excited for an all out d2

maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:01 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

I miss the >w<
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:35 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

big talk from someone who didn't see drago as obvscum
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:27 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

whoops editing on mobile
by iaafr
Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:26 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1495
Views: 31843

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]

MacDougall wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:25 pm
Evenstar wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:16 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:11 pm I haven't even indicated I am suspicious of him this phase and you're acting like I've been non stop accusing him. It's weird. Stfu.
- my bad, it was Radishes and Iaafr who were sussing him and I'm used to their reads being bad lol
or consider stopping entirely
Okay well with the way you attack people I'd double check the facts first because it's pretty lame.

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