The Syndicate

Quick question: How did we find out that Made could self daykill via the curse? Was it during this dayphase, or was it during a previous dayphase?

Also, gotta go eat dinner. Will be back in a bit.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:57 pm You want to yeet me who has worked fucking hard in this game, talking to everyone and posting reads on everyone. Tell me, if I am scum, what does my path to victory look like rn

You want to yeet dizzy who is very likely town for having a pro town ability. Oh no, im solving via mech, jpic must be scummy for that

-DO- I want to yeet you? Or am I just trying to pressure you and Dizzy right now so that I can actually get a read that I feel good about? Do you think me voting someone midday when there's 24 hours left on the clock means that I want to chop them? Why are you so nervous about ONE person voting Dizzy right now? Do you think I've got the influence to turn the game around on you two right now?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:54 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:52 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:49 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:47 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:45 pm I feel like causing arguments for the sake of arguing is pretty anti-town but you do you
Explain to me why you think it's anti-town. I actually think it's VERY pro-town.
Because it distracts the other players and it can put people off from reading the thread

Come back to me when you have something to argue over
Distracts the other players from what? What am I distracting the other players from? I've been talking about why you have been suss to me and others have been saying that I've been having weird takes and that -I'M- suss for it. Are you suggesting what I'm doing right now is offtopic in some fashion? You and I arguing would give people MORE content to base their Hyena-reads and JPIC-reads on. How is it distracting? Why are you trying to shut this down?
Im shutting it down because i think you’re being utterly ridiculous

Come back to me with an argument and stop wasting my time

How am I being ridiculous? What am I doing that's ridiculous?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:49 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:47 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:45 pm I feel like causing arguments for the sake of arguing is pretty anti-town but you do you
Explain to me why you think it's anti-town. I actually think it's VERY pro-town.
Because it distracts the other players and it can put people off from reading the thread

Come back to me when you have something to argue over

Distracts the other players from what? What am I distracting the other players from? I've been talking about why you have been suss to me and others have been saying that I've been having weird takes and that -I'M- suss for it. Are you suggesting what I'm doing right now is offtopic in some fashion? You and I arguing would give people MORE content to base their Hyena-reads and JPIC-reads on. How is it distracting? Why are you trying to shut this down?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:45 pm I feel like causing arguments for the sake of arguing is pretty anti-town but you do you

Explain to me why you think it's anti-town. I actually think it's VERY pro-town.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:40 pm Also, why can you only form reads via arguments?

Because that's just how I play.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:39 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:38 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:35 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:34 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:32 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:27 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:18 pm

Saying that I'm only solving via mechanics is actually bullshit.
Okay, do you think I'm scum for lying about that then? Like, take a firm stance on me. Stop giving conditional reads like 'oh, Hyena is town based on his role'. Like, if I'm scum otherwise, just call me friggin' scum. Let's have an argument.
what if I don't want to argue with you tho. I think your takes are weird and wanting to yeet me and dizzy is even weirder. Also, the point of the trustfall exercise is to find as many reasons to townread everyone and find which reasons are weak. Dizzy, or somebody mentioned that you were spewed from Sloonei iso which I'd need to read again. I only really recall hk being spewed from it
Why don't you want to argue me? Why don't you want to help me read you?
What would arguing with achieve? I am talking and responding to all of your posts
It would help me get a better read on you. It would show me how invested you are in your reads, beliefs in this game, how much you believe what you're saying, etc.
A better use of your time would be to read my ISO.

No, I want to argue with you in real-time so that you don't have time to prepare made-up answers if that has been what you've been doing. Talking to you in real time will help me see if you are being truthful or if you're having to think about things before actually saying them. The latter would make you super suss to me -- just like what happened at the EoD you guys chopped Jack.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:35 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:34 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:32 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:27 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:18 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:16 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:15 pm hyena is town primarily because his role would be dumb as a mafia role
No, stop this. You're doing the same thing JPIC is doing right now. Stop paying attention to my role.
Saying that I'm only solving via mechanics is actually bullshit.
Okay, do you think I'm scum for lying about that then? Like, take a firm stance on me. Stop giving conditional reads like 'oh, Hyena is town based on his role'. Like, if I'm scum otherwise, just call me friggin' scum. Let's have an argument.
what if I don't want to argue with you tho. I think your takes are weird and wanting to yeet me and dizzy is even weirder. Also, the point of the trustfall exercise is to find as many reasons to townread everyone and find which reasons are weak. Dizzy, or somebody mentioned that you were spewed from Sloonei iso which I'd need to read again. I only really recall hk being spewed from it
Why don't you want to argue me? Why don't you want to help me read you?
What would arguing with achieve? I am talking and responding to all of your posts

It would help me get a better read on you. It would show me how invested you are in your reads, beliefs in this game, how much you believe what you're saying, etc.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:31 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:22 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:17 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:16 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:15 pm hyena is town primarily because his role would be dumb as a mafia role
No, stop this. You're doing the same thing JPIC is doing right now. Stop paying attention to my role.
I know. What else is there? that's what I'm asking
Sloonei pushed the hell out of me D1. He managed to get a five person wagon on me and managed to hold it through half of the day. That was the whole reason I claimed, remember? How about the colored EoD wagon reads I was making? What did you think of those? I pushed on Ted, 112, and Nanook well before any of them were dead. Those are just some reasons I'm town.

Don't want to consider those things? Okay, how about judging what I've been doing the past 24 hours -- trying to shake the game up to get some new reads. Trying to build a towncore so that I can just chop the people outside of it. I'm voting for Dizzy, and have consistently pushed on Dizzy throughout the game -- do you think my push on them has been towny or scummy?
i see a lot of question marks here and i'm just gonna head u off at the pass and remind you that this is a nearly 20,000 post game, i don't remember anything anyone has said or done over a week ago, that's why i asked you to repeat it.

also why is this important to you? to be read for your actions instead of your role

Because I, and everyone else, could be lying about their role, either partially or completely. There may be stuff about people's roles that we don't even know about yet. I feel that mechanics are an easy way to escape talking about actual reads on people.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:32 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:27 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:18 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:16 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:15 pm hyena is town primarily because his role would be dumb as a mafia role
No, stop this. You're doing the same thing JPIC is doing right now. Stop paying attention to my role.
Saying that I'm only solving via mechanics is actually bullshit.
Okay, do you think I'm scum for lying about that then? Like, take a firm stance on me. Stop giving conditional reads like 'oh, Hyena is town based on his role'. Like, if I'm scum otherwise, just call me friggin' scum. Let's have an argument.
what if I don't want to argue with you tho. I think your takes are weird and wanting to yeet me and dizzy is even weirder. Also, the point of the trustfall exercise is to find as many reasons to townread everyone and find which reasons are weak. Dizzy, or somebody mentioned that you were spewed from Sloonei iso which I'd need to read again. I only really recall hk being spewed from it

Why don't you want to argue me? Why don't you want to help me read you?

@Justplayingitcool Here are some of the posts I was talking about. This was the day YOU ALL chopped Jack when Made and I wanted to chop 112:

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 6:53 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:43 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:24 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:29 pm
112 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:16 pm [VOTE: cat] aubergine

way better choice than falcon
112 third vote on Cat, no real reason given. If I looked sus for voting cat and leaving thread 112 looks WAAAAYYY worse.

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:31 pm
112 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:21 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:17 pm
112 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:16 pm [VOTE: cat] aubergine

way better choice than falcon
On what grounds?

Just for the record.
they're both playing the same superficial, low-content game but falcon's more willing to get into the dirt/nitty-gritty of the game

and i have experience with falcon and am inclined to think he's town, whereas with cat i don't have meta
what the fuck is this read???
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[VOTE: 112] aubergine
[VOTE: 112] aubergine
What was this JPIC? What makes you more convinced that 112 is town now? Sloonei's argument?

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 6:55 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:46 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:40 pm
cat wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:32 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:22 pm Cat, have you paid attention to people voting you? Who do you think could be the scum jumping on your train?

(If you're town and you end up going over, it'd be good to have your perspective noted.)
No i haven't, i've made walls consistantly and the post i left off at was Dyslexicon snapping back at someone. (I forgot who ) From what i can tell the people voting me didn't like my response to MacDougall so i can't say anyone is wolfy. I don't get pinged when i'm voted so i don't know the context.
On the wagon i have a slight scumread on Nutella, and townread on tutuu. Everyone else is either a mixed bag or i have pretty much no opinion on. Like i said the most important people are the people off wagon or dancing around suspiciously and that is where town usually ignores since they are too focused on "wow, voting townie, there must be scum there".
RE: the 112 wagon, this post from cat suggests to me that those two are not teammates. 112 is the forgotten “someone” that Dizzy was “snapping back at”. I think it is less likely that cat would have forgotten a teammate’s involvement in that exchange than a random non-teammate. If you want to say it was a smokescreen or “anti-spew”, then I’d respond by saying that that would be more meticulous than is expected if anyone.

I don’t have an alternative. The response to my prods about hollowkatt have suggested that people drew more confident positive conclusions about Thunal and cat in Day 1 than I did. I don’t have a case there so much as a lack of a town read.

I think the tutuu votes are way off base. I do not know what to do with falcon.

Sorry for being such a non-participant today. I’m off to work shortly and won’t be done until well after the deadline.
This is a fair point.

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine
ATTN: ALL

This is where JPIC turns around and unvoted 112. I don't get the sense that he's anymore confident that 112 is not town than he was confident that 112 was scum.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:18 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:16 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:15 pm hyena is town primarily because his role would be dumb as a mafia role
No, stop this. You're doing the same thing JPIC is doing right now. Stop paying attention to my role.
Saying that I'm only solving via mechanics is actually bullshit.

Okay, do you think I'm scum for lying about that then? Like, take a firm stance on me. Stop giving conditional reads like 'oh, Hyena is town based on his role'. Like, if I'm scum otherwise, just call me friggin' scum.

Let's have an argument.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:10 pm I don't think Tutu is a good yeet here tbh. If we got fucked over by godfather mmk. But what I've read from spew so far, Tutu doesn't seem likely anyway. Why are we going there?

Tim makes weird posts and weird pushes and weird all over. Sorry this is not more conclusive, but I just don't know what to say sometimes when I read some of his posts.

Hyena also has some seriously questionable takes. @Hyena Why did your activity drop the past few days? Also, if you really want to solve my alignment you should go ahead and do that. I have mech that outs me as town and kept all suggestions/movement in this game as town friendly as ever possible from my POV. If you have direct questions, please @ me and ask them. I really don't think it should be that hard to find me as town here if you're actually trying to solve.

This whole fuck up came at a really bad time for me. I'm literally swamped with work tomorrow. But I'll make every effort to be here tomorrow night after work.

Just noting that I -did- see this. I'll get to it in a moment since it's related to everything else I'm posting right now.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:17 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:16 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:15 pm hyena is town primarily because his role would be dumb as a mafia role
No, stop this. You're doing the same thing JPIC is doing right now. Stop paying attention to my role.
I know. What else is there? that's what I'm asking

Sloonei pushed the hell out of me D1. He managed to get a five person wagon on me and managed to hold it through half of the day. That was the whole reason I claimed, remember? How about the colored EoD wagon reads I was making? What did you think of those? I pushed on Ted, 112, and Nanook well before any of them were dead. Those are just some reasons I'm town.

Don't want to consider those things? Okay, how about judging what I've been doing the past 24 hours -- trying to shake the game up to get some new reads. Trying to build a towncore so that I can just chop the people outside of it. I'm voting for Dizzy, and have consistently pushed on Dizzy throughout the game -- do you think my push on them has been towny or scummy?

In fact, let's say there's an extra part of my role that I haven't told you guys about. Seriously, stop reading me based on what you know about my role. Read me based on what I've done, what I've solved, what I've pushed, etc. -- all the non-mechanical stuff in the game.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:15 pm hyena is town primarily because his role would be dumb as a mafia role

No, stop this. You're doing the same thing JPIC is doing right now. Stop paying attention to my role.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:13 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:04 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:43 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:41 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:39 pm [VOTE: Made] aubergine

rip us if this is wrong

i havent been able to put effort lately, u guys r all saying "made outed made outed" - im cool with that

if that somehwo ends up being wrong imma vote tim tomorrow
Hi, you're not in the towncore anymore. We're yeeting one of JPIC or Dizzy today.
This would be the stupidest thing to happen so far
It actually wouldn't be. Assuming you're both town, by yeeting one of you, we're stealing an obvious nightkill from mafia, which means that at some point down the line, they'd have to kill someone that's less obviously town down the line. A Tim nightkill or an HK nightkill would give us more to talk about then, say, a JPIC nightkill or a Dizzy nightkill if you two are as lock town as you say you are. :P
or we could just yeet who we think is scum

Okay, but try to base the reasoning more on reads this time than mechanics. Stop trying to use mechanics to solve the game right now. If that means I'm your top scumread, then so be it. Let's fight then. :3

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:53 am @Hyena why r u voting dizzy?

whats up with u and voting towncore? u voted jpic, u voted dizzy, u said u also want jpic dead? wat?

I already gave you my towncore. I'm not voting towncore right now. My town core is me, Tim, HK, LC, and Kyle. Everyone else can die.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:51 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:33 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:32 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:26 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:23 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:13 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:49 pm
There's 11 players remaining. If the five of us are town, then we only need to find ONE more person that's town, excluding @Alison (though Alison, if you want to help out with this, you're free to join, too). Who should be the last person we include in our towncore?

@Timsup2nothin
@Made
@Long Con
@hollowkatt
I’d say it’s always Long Con as town. Tim is probably scum, HK could be scum, Long Con is almost always town
MADE! NO! WE'RE A TOWN CORE! PICK SOMEONE -NOT- IN THOSE FOUR!!!
I'll pick Syn
Okay, cool.

@Syn You're now in the new towncore with me, Tim, Made, HK, and LC. There's six of us, and five of them -- we just chop them one by one now and we win, assuming the six of us are all town! How do you feel about that?
@Michelle You might be replacing Syn in the towncore. The new people in charge are still discussing it.
Caught up until that post, why is Made in your town core?

Made wasn't actually in my town core. I wanted to shake the game up and get some reaction tests. I was getting bored by all the mechanics discussion.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:06 pm @Hyena what makes you think jpic is obviously town

I don't think JPIC is obviously town. JPIC thinks he's obviously town.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:56 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:39 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:30 pm I really just cannot see who it can be other than it being made.

Hyena maybe. But the powers have been used for good but just not confident there

Michelle maybe, but she was pretty pro-yeet Ted and the tutuu tunnel feels like it comes more from town than scum

Everybody else has very solid reasons to be townread
Ignoring my powers, do you townread me? Or do you townread me just because of my powers and how I've been using them?
I only townread you for your powers

Your push on me made me wary of you and I can’t say i’m liking what im seeing from you this phase

Then why don't you ignore my powers and call me scum? Was your reason for townreading me for my powers stronger than your reasons why I could be scum ignoring my powers? Like, I'm getting the sense that you don't want to confront me when you say you townread me for one thing that's actually pretty NAI for me and then say I'm not towny for things that I've done outside of mechanics. Are you afraid to call me scum? :3

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:53 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:01 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:57 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:50 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:47 pm Either way, I think I've found the four of the five people that -I- need to have auto? Those people are Tim, HK, LC, and Tutuu. I think Kyle would make an okay 5th, and if not, Syn would probably okay. Don't care about anyone else -- you can yeet them in any order now for all I care.
Venn diagram now with the general thread suspicions.
How do I make a Venn diagram from that info? o:

Either way, I don't want to try reading Made anymore. I still have a mild suspicion of Dizzy, even if there has been more stuff I liked from them the past two day phases. I just can't shake away those bad gut feelings. One thing in particular that still weirded me out is the "cold feet" that the started getting on 112 right before 112 claimed 3P. It felt like Dizzy wanted 112 yeeted, thinking 112 was town, but didn't want to look bad for voting them later. Then, the "cold feet" seemed to disappear immediately once 112 claimed 3P.
JPIC is a complete toss up for me. Like, there has been a lot of stuff that I wanted to lock him town for, but every once in a while, he'll say something that'll make me do a double take and think "am I wrong here?". I've pointed out a couple of these things in previous posts. I feel like I had a strong reason to call Michelle town earlier, but I dunno if she's done anything since then that makes me want to continue calling her town. I dunno.
Point me to these posts.

I'll do so after I'm done catching up.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:43 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:41 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:39 pm [VOTE: Made] aubergine

rip us if this is wrong

i havent been able to put effort lately, u guys r all saying "made outed made outed" - im cool with that

if that somehwo ends up being wrong imma vote tim tomorrow
Hi, you're not in the towncore anymore. We're yeeting one of JPIC or Dizzy today.
This would be the stupidest thing to happen so far

It actually wouldn't be. Assuming you're both town, by yeeting one of you, we're stealing an obvious nightkill from mafia, which means that at some point down the line, they'd have to kill someone that's less obviously town down the line. A Tim nightkill or an HK nightkill would give us more to talk about then, say, a JPIC nightkill or a Dizzy nightkill if you two are as lock town as you say you are. :P

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:12 am So, here's the thing. Assuming Made dying does not end the game one of two things is happening here...

We are collectively reading someone as town who isn't.

There is some sort of mechanical fuckery going on.

There are definitely people who are 'mech cleared' that have not been all that towny. I actually think fuckery is more likely here, but YMMV.

This is kinda why I've been trying to steer the game the past couple hours towards stuff based on reads rather than based on mechanics. I've been screwed over as town by mechanics so many times in the past.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:07 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:02 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:59 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:57 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:50 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:47 pm Either way, I think I've found the four of the five people that -I- need to have auto? Those people are Tim, HK, LC, and Tutuu. I think Kyle would make an okay 5th, and if not, Syn would probably okay. Don't care about anyone else -- you can yeet them in any order now for all I care.
Venn diagram now with the general thread suspicions.
How do I make a Venn diagram from that info? o:

Either way, I don't want to try reading Made anymore. I still have a mild suspicion of Dizzy, even if there has been more stuff I liked from them the past two day phases. I just can't shake away those bad gut feelings. One thing in particular that still weirded me out is the "cold feet" that the started getting on 112 right before 112 claimed 3P. It felt like Dizzy wanted 112 yeeted, thinking 112 was town, but didn't want to look bad for voting them later. Then, the "cold feet" seemed to disappear immediately once 112 claimed 3P.
I just mean, let's yeet the strongest overlap between the generally accepted POE and your mirror-universe one.
Oh, that makes sense. Right now, I think Made is in the bottom of the general accepted PoE, and he's, like, somewhere in the middle of mine. I have no problem starting there.
And the order I'd go in if I had full control is Made -> Alison -> Dizzy -> Michelle -> JPIC. JPIC is on the border though for me. Made -> Alison and then one of Michelle or Dizzy would probably always be what I would aim for right now though.

@Alison When exactly do you leave the game again (assuming you leave when you've fulfilled your win con)?

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:02 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:59 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:57 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:50 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:47 pm Either way, I think I've found the four of the five people that -I- need to have auto? Those people are Tim, HK, LC, and Tutuu. I think Kyle would make an okay 5th, and if not, Syn would probably okay. Don't care about anyone else -- you can yeet them in any order now for all I care.
Venn diagram now with the general thread suspicions.
How do I make a Venn diagram from that info? o:

Either way, I don't want to try reading Made anymore. I still have a mild suspicion of Dizzy, even if there has been more stuff I liked from them the past two day phases. I just can't shake away those bad gut feelings. One thing in particular that still weirded me out is the "cold feet" that the started getting on 112 right before 112 claimed 3P. It felt like Dizzy wanted 112 yeeted, thinking 112 was town, but didn't want to look bad for voting them later. Then, the "cold feet" seemed to disappear immediately once 112 claimed 3P.
I just mean, let's yeet the strongest overlap between the generally accepted POE and your mirror-universe one.
Oh, that makes sense. Right now, I think Made is in the bottom of the general accepted PoE, and he's, like, somewhere in the middle of mine. I have no problem starting there.

And the order I'd go in if I had full control is Made -> Alison -> Dizzy -> Michelle -> JPIC. JPIC is on the border though for me. Made -> Alison and then one of Michelle or Dizzy would probably always be what I would aim for right now though.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:59 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:57 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:50 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:47 pm Either way, I think I've found the four of the five people that -I- need to have auto? Those people are Tim, HK, LC, and Tutuu. I think Kyle would make an okay 5th, and if not, Syn would probably okay. Don't care about anyone else -- you can yeet them in any order now for all I care.
Venn diagram now with the general thread suspicions.
How do I make a Venn diagram from that info? o:

Either way, I don't want to try reading Made anymore. I still have a mild suspicion of Dizzy, even if there has been more stuff I liked from them the past two day phases. I just can't shake away those bad gut feelings. One thing in particular that still weirded me out is the "cold feet" that the started getting on 112 right before 112 claimed 3P. It felt like Dizzy wanted 112 yeeted, thinking 112 was town, but didn't want to look bad for voting them later. Then, the "cold feet" seemed to disappear immediately once 112 claimed 3P.
I just mean, let's yeet the strongest overlap between the generally accepted POE and your mirror-universe one.

Oh, that makes sense. Right now, I think Made is in the bottom of the general accepted PoE, and he's, like, somewhere in the middle of mine. I have no problem starting there.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:57 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:50 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:47 pm Either way, I think I've found the four of the five people that -I- need to have auto? Those people are Tim, HK, LC, and Tutuu. I think Kyle would make an okay 5th, and if not, Syn would probably okay. Don't care about anyone else -- you can yeet them in any order now for all I care.
Venn diagram now with the general thread suspicions.
How do I make a Venn diagram from that info? o:

Either way, I don't want to try reading Made anymore. I still have a mild suspicion of Dizzy, even if there has been more stuff I liked from them the past two day phases. I just can't shake away those bad gut feelings. One thing in particular that still weirded me out is the "cold feet" that the started getting on 112 right before 112 claimed 3P. It felt like Dizzy wanted 112 yeeted, thinking 112 was town, but didn't want to look bad for voting them later. Then, the "cold feet" seemed to disappear immediately once 112 claimed 3P.

JPIC is a complete toss up for me. Like, there has been a lot of stuff that I wanted to lock him town for, but every once in a while, he'll say something that'll make me do a double take and think "am I wrong here?". I've pointed out a couple of these things in previous posts. I feel like I had a strong reason to call Michelle town earlier, but I dunno if she's done anything since then that makes me want to continue calling her town. I dunno.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:50 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:47 pm Either way, I think I've found the four of the five people that -I- need to have auto? Those people are Tim, HK, LC, and Tutuu. I think Kyle would make an okay 5th, and if not, Syn would probably okay. Don't care about anyone else -- you can yeet them in any order now for all I care.
Venn diagram now with the general thread suspicions.

How do I make a Venn diagram from that info? o:

Either way, I don't want to try reading Made anymore. I still have a mild suspicion of Dizzy, even if there has been more stuff I liked from them the past two day phases. I just can't shake away those bad gut feelings. One thing in particular that still weirded me out is the "cold feet" that the started getting on 112 right before 112 claimed 3P. It felt like Dizzy wanted 112 yeeted, thinking 112 was town, but didn't want to look bad for voting them later. Then, the "cold feet" seemed to disappear immediately once 112 claimed 3P.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:47 pm Either way, I think I've found the four of the five people that -I- need to have auto? Those people are Tim, HK, LC, and Tutuu. I think Kyle would make an okay 5th, and if not, Syn would probably okay. Don't care about anyone else -- you can yeet them in any order now for all I care.

@Timsup2nothin If you've got another shot, please keep it -outside- of these people, especially the main four.

Either way, I think I've found the four of the five people that -I- need to have auto? Those people are Tim, HK, LC, and Tutuu. I think Kyle would make an okay 5th, and if not, Syn would probably okay. Don't care about anyone else -- you can yeet them in any order now for all I care.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:43 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:36 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:33 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:44 pmThen you're out of the towncore!

@Kylemii Wanna be part of my towncore with me, Tim, Made, LC, and Michelle? You and HK would swap places in my plan above.
you just said you wanted to kill me
Yes, I did. :3 If you take issue with that, I can easily replace you with Tutuu if you'd like. <3
tutuu should be on the towncore more than i should be, but also having tutuu in the TC without me being there feels like some sort of logical fallacy

Oh wait, you're the one that green checked her, right? (Yeah, I haven't really been keeping up with all the mechanic talk. I'm bored by that stuff. ;-;)

Also, @tutuu didn't, like, Sloonei push you hard on D1, too? Why aren't you bringing that up?

That would be better evidence, I think! Either way, I'll leave you alone now.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:33 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:44 pmThen you're out of the towncore!

@Kylemii Wanna be part of my towncore with me, Tim, Made, LC, and Michelle? You and HK would swap places in my plan above.
you just said you wanted to kill me

Yes, I did. :3 If you take issue with that, I can easily replace you with Tutuu if you'd like. <3

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:32 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:39 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:35 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:30 pm
Spoiler: show
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:26 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:23 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:13 pm
I’d say it’s always Long Con as town. Tim is probably scum, HK could be scum, Long Con is almost always town
MADE! NO! WE'RE A TOWN CORE! PICK SOMEONE -NOT- IN THOSE FOUR!!!
I'll pick Syn
I'm getting a little scared of Syn tho.
fair. I'm scared of both of you.
@Hyena why are you putting made in the town core
Because I'm flipping this game upside down. Made was on the bottom, so now, I'm putting him on the top (except for me, of course -- I'm in charge here now).

Also, we're probably chopping one of JPIC or Dizzy today. Whichever stays will -probably- get a momentary reprieve from getting chopped the next day, which is when we'll probably chop one of Kyle or Syn if the game doesn't end. Those are the plans for the next two day phases.
are you high

What if I said yes? :3

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:11 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:54 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:52 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:44 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:44 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:43 pm Somebody motivate me to read 16 pages. Or we can talk now
Let's talk, you choose subject ^^
Who is your scum read so far?
Just 3 leans because i didn't read all the thread.
Sloonei, Esooa, and probably Radishes.
Nothing set in stone.
I thought Esooa's opening post was pretty towny, you think she could fake that as scum?
Technically is not a big deal to fake an opening post

lol, okay, Tutuu actually did do that

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:30 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:28 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:13 pm whatever is it that u're townreading tim or HK or anyone - i can guarantee u that i've done that in this game and i can show it...
Tim and HK have both told lies to pressure people in this game. Have you done that this game? :3
yes - i noticed michelle is making a read on a player that isn't in this game (esooa) so i pretended to townread esooa and asked michelle if she thinks that esooa could have faked her opener to reaction test michelle

Okay, I was actually lying just then (or rather, I don't know if HK and Tim have actually lied to pressure people), but I recall the stuff about Esooa. Lemme read up on it really quick!

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:13 pm whatever is it that u're townreading tim or HK or anyone - i can guarantee u that i've done that in this game and i can show it...

Tim and HK have both told lies to pressure people in this game. Have you done that this game? :3

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:12 pm just cuz they were wrong on some reads it doesnt mean they have to be wrong on all what is that logical fallacy....

if a person making a single wrong read invalidates everything they've done - how do u read people hyena?

tell me how are u townreading anyone rn?

I'm not saying they have to be wrong on all of their reads! I'm trying to see if you actually believe if that's good evidence from your PoV. Like, what makes their reads on you more credible than any of their other reads? Nutella thought I was lock town -- can I say that I'm lock town because of it, too? And how much would you believe Nutella's read if so?

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:07 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:00 pm well okay, i got like 2k posts, i havent been shy to give reads on anyone or anything, my role isnt rly provable but i mean im frickin green peeked lmfao, i cant rly claim credit to hard bury any wolf coz my reads keep changing but like idk - alot of dead town players correctly found me as town - martin, dyachei, nutella, TSP, jack - so idk listen to them or something

i spam a bunch and a lot of my posts are filler thats fair but i still got some pushes and stuff and liek cmon. why do i even have to prove my townyness at this stage yall wild
Dyachei called Thunal/HK scum on D1 -- do you think they were right? :P

Also, also, also...

Nutella thought Sloonei was town at different points in the game! Do you think all her other reads were correct?

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:00 pm well okay, i got like 2k posts, i havent been shy to give reads on anyone or anything, my role isnt rly provable but i mean im frickin green peeked lmfao, i cant rly claim credit to hard bury any wolf coz my reads keep changing but like idk - alot of dead town players correctly found me as town - martin, dyachei, nutella, TSP, jack - so idk listen to them or something

i spam a bunch and a lot of my posts are filler thats fair but i still got some pushes and stuff and liek cmon. why do i even have to prove my townyness at this stage yall wild

Dyachei called Thunal/HK scum on D1 -- do you think they were right? :P

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:58 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:50 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:37 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:36 pm I'm kinda good with Hyena being in charge here.
wanna play a game?
whatcha got?
The game is: you're peeked green

YEAAAH! HK and TIM towncore! Let's go!

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:49 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:48 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:46 pm [VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine
this is bad and you're bad

Can't be bad if Made is bad, unless you think there are two scum remaining. <3

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:48 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:46 pm [VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine
this is bad and you're bad

[VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:42 pm who r u to tell me where i belong lmfao

sit down, kid

I'm THE Hyena. That's who I am.

Ur scum.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:42 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:39 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:35 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:30 pm
Spoiler: show
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:26 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:23 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:13 pm
I’d say it’s always Long Con as town. Tim is probably scum, HK could be scum, Long Con is almost always town
MADE! NO! WE'RE A TOWN CORE! PICK SOMEONE -NOT- IN THOSE FOUR!!!
I'll pick Syn
I'm getting a little scared of Syn tho.
fair. I'm scared of both of you.
@Hyena why are you putting made in the town core
Because I'm flipping this game upside down. Made was on the bottom, so now, I'm putting him on the top (except for me, of course -- I'm in charge here now).

Also, we're probably chopping one of JPIC or Dizzy today. Whichever stays will -probably- get a momentary reprieve from getting chopped the next day, which is when we'll probably chop one of Kyle or Syn if the game doesn't end. Those are the plans for the next two day phases.
what if I were to say to you: I'm not moving off of made.

Then you're out of the towncore!

@Kylemii Wanna be part of my towncore with me, Tim, Made, LC, and Michelle? You and HK would swap places in my plan above.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:39 pm [VOTE: Made] aubergine

rip us if this is wrong

i havent been able to put effort lately, u guys r all saying "made outed made outed" - im cool with that

if that somehwo ends up being wrong imma vote tim tomorrow

Hi, you're not in the towncore anymore. We're yeeting one of JPIC or Dizzy today.

Oh wait, I forgot about Tutuu. Um... I'll let her stick around for the next two phases, I think, but I can be convinced to do otherwise.

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