The Syndicate

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:38 pm I feel like the number of people who kill HK should be a pretty narrow margin right? am I wrong in thinking HK was widely town read? why kill HK over someone with a more threatening role that would be harder to yeet?

I already theorized why earlier, and it had to do with everyone focusing so much on mechanics and people being mechanically cleared. The more mechanics that are still in the game, the more ways mafia can mess around with them to get "mechanically cleared". Also, pretty much all the town that has died weren't really focusing much on mechanics as they were reads (see HK, Tim, Made, and even Wilgy to a degree).

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:45 pm uh I guess I could steal from hyena

If you steal from me, then I can't do what I just said I wanted to do tonight. :P

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:25 pm So I was thinking about all these plans and how I can help. Initially, I was going to go with the plan to roleblock me because that legit clears me altogether. However, I just thought of something else that maybe might not be AS clearing but shows enough evidence that I'm going to give someone a BTSC with a dead person rather than kill someone.

@Long Con Just to re-confirm this, you DID see me visit -Mac- in addition to whoever I gave the BTSC to, correct? If this is the case, then wouldn't seeing me visit a dead player in addition to any alive player confirm that I'm not killing anyone, even if the alive player does die? Granted, does it even matter who I give the chat to? If so, I just can randomize it completely so that the mafia can't even guess who I'm giving it to.

Actually, wouldn't the optimal play here to be give Alison the BTSC since we know mafia won't be killing Alison? Or is that not a good idea?

I'm playing games with my boyfriend at the moment, but I should be able to properly catch up later.

So I was thinking about all these plans and how I can help. Initially, I was going to go with the plan to roleblock me because that legit clears me altogether. However, I just thought of something else that maybe might not be AS clearing but shows enough evidence that I'm going to give someone a BTSC with a dead person rather than kill someone.

@Long Con Just to re-confirm this, you DID see me visit -Mac- in addition to whoever I gave the BTSC to, correct? If this is the case, then wouldn't seeing me visit a dead player in addition to any alive player confirm that I'm not killing anyone, even if the alive player does die? Granted, does it even matter who I give the chat to? If so, I just can randomize it completely so that the mafia can't even guess who I'm giving it to.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:59 am So it has come to this. Syn and LC are not my top suspects. And by top suspects, I mean about a 3 on the scummometer. =p

Of those two, I'm heavily leaning towards LC being more town. With that said, I plan on rereading at the very least Syn's ISO later tonight.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:58 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:56 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:54 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:52 am Kyle's the one who's doing the bargaining for Alison now, correct? And he's also responsible for Tutuu being off the polls, right?
Kyle only bargained with Alison once from stealing her role, I think. Alison is the one doing the bargaining.

And yeah, Kyle removed Tutu from the poll today. To be fair, Tutu is green checked.
Oh, so it was only for that one night?

@Alison Can you confirm this? Are you back to directly making bargains with people, or does Kyle permanently have that power now?
Yeah, I choose the bargains now.

Okay, okay. Thanks.

Well, there goes another theory, lol.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:55 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:54 amHow scumread was Nanook at the time he died? If I recall correctly, Nanook was a top wagon the day before at one point and was heavily scumread? Should we be giving Kyle a lot of towncred for that?
Yes. I give Kyle a lot of town cred for that.
I also think Kyle has been super towny in all reactions all game. His checks on LC and Tutu follows a progression as well. It's not just something he made up to get Ted, he softed it all the days leading up to that. Kyle is probably the last person I'd go for here.

Okay, okay. I actually did forget he was the one responsible for finding Ted.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:54 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:52 am Kyle's the one who's doing the bargaining for Alison now, correct? And he's also responsible for Tutuu being off the polls, right?
Kyle only bargained with Alison once from stealing her role, I think. Alison is the one doing the bargaining.

And yeah, Kyle removed Tutu from the poll today. To be fair, Tutu is green checked.

Oh, so it was only for that one night?

@Alison Can you confirm this? Are you back to directly making bargains with people, or does Kyle permanently have that power now?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:52 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:51 am I just had a thought. @Dyslexicon How much do you trust Kyle right now?
Probably the most of all. He literally killed Nanook and outed Ted.

How scumread was Nanook at the time he died? If I recall correctly, Nanook was a top wagon the day before at one point and was heavily scumread? Should we be giving Kyle a lot of towncred for that?

Kyle's the one who's doing the bargaining for Alison now, correct? And he's also responsible for Tutuu being off the polls, right?

I just had a thought. @Dyslexicon How much do you trust Kyle right now?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:57 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:57 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:51 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:45 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:41 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:38 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:36 amIf Dizzy is mafia, they've essentially confirmed me as town by not killing, reducing the overall PoE. Why roleblock essentially a useless role? Dizzy didn't have to come out swinging and confirm they roleblocked me either.
To further pocket you.
It's a possibility, I suppose. Though I think it's unlikely. I will certainly reconsider if we somehow both make it to f3

I take it you've dropped your scum read on me? why?
If I'm right about Dizzy, and I don't think you are with them. They way Dizzy is handling you right now compared to how they're handling the non mechclears makes me think they want to keep you on their side to help chop us. There's 8 people alive at the moment -- if all three of me, Michelle, and Syn are town, and you chop all three of us eventually, then you don't even need to be chopped for scum to win. Thus, it doesn't even matter if you end up confirmed or not -- just as long as you continue going after the three of us.
Thing is, if we no yeet and roleblock/track two of the three of you, and it turns out a kill still went through and a track resulted in nothing incriminating then that mech clears and we wouldn't/shouldn't chop either of them.
Who are you going to look at in that case? Like, do you have any sort of plan how you're going to figure out who the last scum is if that happens?
Nope

Do you understand now from my PoV why I'm frustrated?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:51 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:45 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:41 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:38 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:36 amIf Dizzy is mafia, they've essentially confirmed me as town by not killing, reducing the overall PoE. Why roleblock essentially a useless role? Dizzy didn't have to come out swinging and confirm they roleblocked me either.
To further pocket you.
It's a possibility, I suppose. Though I think it's unlikely. I will certainly reconsider if we somehow both make it to f3

I take it you've dropped your scum read on me? why?
If I'm right about Dizzy, and I don't think you are with them. They way Dizzy is handling you right now compared to how they're handling the non mechclears makes me think they want to keep you on their side to help chop us. There's 8 people alive at the moment -- if all three of me, Michelle, and Syn are town, and you chop all three of us eventually, then you don't even need to be chopped for scum to win. Thus, it doesn't even matter if you end up confirmed or not -- just as long as you continue going after the three of us.
Thing is, if we no yeet and roleblock/track two of the three of you, and it turns out a kill still went through and a track resulted in nothing incriminating then that mech clears and we wouldn't/shouldn't chop either of them.

Who are you going to look at in that case? Like, do you have any sort of plan how you're going to figure out who the last scum is if that happens?

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:47 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:47 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:44 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:30 am @Dyslexicon I'm assuming you knew Michelle's power once the day started via Syn's role check thing? If so, did you think we were always going to no-yeet, or did you think we might chop someone? If it was the former, why didn't you want us to focus on Tutuu today?
Even if we wanted to focus on tutuu we can't because poll shenanigans
When I say focus, I mean talk about Tutuu, and pull up non-mechanical reasons whe she could or may not be scum. I'm talking about looking at her past interactions with dead players and analyze them to see if we can figure out anything about her alignment. I'm not talking about votes right now.
Basically, I'm asking you guys to do what I've been doing the whole game, and stop focusing on the mechanics.

We don't even need to necessarily talk specifically about Tutuu. Dizzy neither if you think they are town. I'm telling you that I'm town, and that I believe Michelle and Syn are town. There are other players we can talk about, and we're going to need to talk about them if we're both correct in our reads.

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:47 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:44 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:30 am @Dyslexicon I'm assuming you knew Michelle's power once the day started via Syn's role check thing? If so, did you think we were always going to no-yeet, or did you think we might chop someone? If it was the former, why didn't you want us to focus on Tutuu today?
Even if we wanted to focus on tutuu we can't because poll shenanigans
When I say focus, I mean talk about Tutuu, and pull up non-mechanical reasons whe she could or may not be scum. I'm talking about looking at her past interactions with dead players and analyze them to see if we can figure out anything about her alignment. I'm not talking about votes right now.

Basically, I'm asking you guys to do what I've been doing the whole game, and stop focusing on the mechanics.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:44 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:30 am @Dyslexicon I'm assuming you knew Michelle's power once the day started via Syn's role check thing? If so, did you think we were always going to no-yeet, or did you think we might chop someone? If it was the former, why didn't you want us to focus on Tutuu today?
Even if we wanted to focus on tutuu we can't because poll shenanigans

When I say focus, I mean talk about Tutuu, and pull up non-mechanical reasons whe she could or may not be scum. I'm talking about looking at her past interactions with dead players and analyze them to see if we can figure out anything about her alignment. I'm not talking about votes right now.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:41 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:38 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:36 amIf Dizzy is mafia, they've essentially confirmed me as town by not killing, reducing the overall PoE. Why roleblock essentially a useless role? Dizzy didn't have to come out swinging and confirm they roleblocked me either.
To further pocket you.
It's a possibility, I suppose. Though I think it's unlikely. I will certainly reconsider if we somehow both make it to f3

I take it you've dropped your scum read on me? why?

If I'm right about Dizzy, and I don't think you are with them. They way Dizzy is handling you right now compared to how they're handling the non mechclears makes me think they want to keep you on their side to help chop us. There's 8 people alive at the moment -- if all three of me, Michelle, and Syn are town, and you chop all three of us eventually, then you don't even need to be chopped for scum to win. Thus, it doesn't even matter if you end up confirmed or not -- just as long as you continue going after the three of us.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:36 amIf Dizzy is mafia, they've essentially confirmed me as town by not killing, reducing the overall PoE. Why roleblock essentially a useless role? Dizzy didn't have to come out swinging and confirm they roleblocked me either.

To further pocket you.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:32 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:30 am @Dyslexicon I'm assuming you knew Michelle's power once the day started via Syn's role check thing? If so, did you think we were always going to no-yeet, or did you think we might chop someone? If it was the former, why didn't you want us to focus on Tutuu today?
lc tracked me to nowhere last night

I know. I think BOTH of you and Dizzy are mafia.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:28 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:27 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:25 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:25 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:23 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:22 am I've been skimming.

I want to get chopped today, I think. That way, LC can track Syn and Dizzy can block Michelle.

Also, how does the stealing mechanic work? Would it work on Michelle to, like, use her ability to switch the chop targets?
kyle already stole from Michelle and didn't receive anything

I'd be impressed if syn is mafia from the radish thing
Alright, then maybe roleblock AND track Michelle if you're feeling confident about Syn.
nah, we should target them both separately. I'd just be surprised, is all
When I flip, PLEASE reconsider everything I've said if you're town.
Reconsider who?

Dizzy, but all the "mech clears" in general.

@Dyslexicon I'm assuming you knew Michelle's power once the day started via Syn's role check thing? If so, did you think we were always going to no-yeet, or did you think we might chop someone? If it was the former, why didn't you want us to focus on Tutuu today?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:25 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:25 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:23 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:22 am I've been skimming.

I want to get chopped today, I think. That way, LC can track Syn and Dizzy can block Michelle.

Also, how does the stealing mechanic work? Would it work on Michelle to, like, use her ability to switch the chop targets?
kyle already stole from Michelle and didn't receive anything

I'd be impressed if syn is mafia from the radish thing
Alright, then maybe roleblock AND track Michelle if you're feeling confident about Syn.
nah, we should target them both separately. I'd just be surprised, is all

When I flip, PLEASE reconsider everything I've said if you're town.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:23 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:22 am I've been skimming.

I want to get chopped today, I think. That way, LC can track Syn and Dizzy can block Michelle.

Also, how does the stealing mechanic work? Would it work on Michelle to, like, use her ability to switch the chop targets?
kyle already stole from Michelle and didn't receive anything

I'd be impressed if syn is mafia from the radish thing

Alright, then maybe roleblock AND track Michelle if you're feeling confident about Syn.

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:22 am I've been skimming.

I want to get chopped today, I think. That way, LC can track Syn and Dizzy can block Michelle.

Also, how does the stealing mechanic work? Would it work on Michelle to, like, use her ability to switch the chop targets?

Or vice versa

I've been skimming.

I want to get chopped today, I think. That way, LC can track Syn and Dizzy can block Michelle.

Also, how does the stealing mechanic work? Would it work on Michelle to, like, use her ability to switch the chop targets?

I've got a headache. I'll be back later. ;-;

Here's the track:

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:47 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:39 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:31 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:08 am @Long Con you forgot to submit your track on n2 and that was stolen by marmot anyway, what happened to your n3 track?
I tracked Hyena. Clean.
You saw them target tim & Mac?
Correct.

Also, if I am mafia, don't you think I would have found a way to mechanically clear myself by now with all the abilities that mafia had? Like, me being NOT mechanical cleared should actually spew me town at this point.

Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:26 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:23 pm I have also been tracked not doing anything one night
I have all been tracked doing the BTSC chat thing between both an alive person AND a dead person. I think it was Mac + someone who was alive at the time?

I have also** rather

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:23 pm I have also been tracked not doing anything one night

I have all been tracked doing the BTSC chat thing between both an alive person AND a dead person. I think it was Mac + someone who was alive at the time?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:23 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:19 pmLet me ask you this then. There was a nightkill last night. There apparently was also a redirect or something that caused LC to take Tutuu off the poll. Do you think that these two actions could suggest that there are two mafia left? Or do you still think that there is one left?
Yeah, I don't know how the Tutu off the poll thing happened.

I don't know. I can't imagine there being two mafia left. 7 + 2 3p seems too much. But I don't know. If there is, I can't figure out who it is. Would be Michelle + Syn maybe. I town read everyone still alive actually.

Also, I don't care much to figure that out now. The most important thing is that we do yeet mafia today. And if game does not end, there's still threats here.

I was wondering if there may be no mafia left, but there being a NK at all should point to there being mafia left I guess.

Here's what's worrying me right now. If there are two mafia alive, and one of them is Tutuu, then if we're wrong today, we go into the next day with 2 scum + Alison + 3 town. Town could lose majority tomorrow if we're wrong about the numbers.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:14 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:10 pmYou don't know me either. Why do you get to call me potentially scum and I can't do the same even though my gut is telling me that it's a possibility?
You can do that. You are literally doing that. But it's wrong as fuck and if you wanted to you could just look at the logical evidence and confirmed me as town. It's literally that simple. If I had mech evidence that was as solid, I would confirm you as town too. Like I have everyone else in this game except three people.

Put your mind to which one of Michelle or Syn or neither is mafia imo.

Let me ask you this then. There was a nightkill last night. There apparently was also a redirect or something that caused LC to take Tutuu off the poll. Do you think that these two actions could suggest that there are two mafia left? Or do you still think that there is one left?

Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:10 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:08 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:04 pmI don't really care if you take it as a scum claim. My gut has been telling me stuff. Today it's still telling me that one of you could be scum and that if you are, you came into today planning to try to chop me, which is why Hollowkatt was killed. Also, if Long Con didn't take Tutuu off the poll, then I'm assuming scum did, either because Tutuu is scum herself, or because again, scum wanted to come after me today rather than Tutuu for god knows what reason.
I couldn't care less about your so called gut. You don't know me at all. I'm confirmed town. It's not hard to understand. Literally every town that has flipped who actually know me and have played with me many times have fully town read me both on play and mech alike. If you are town, you are committed to being wrong on a pure fixation. I suggest you check that.

What are you even on about? Are you saying me, jpic AND tutu are scum now? What planet are you living on?

This conversation is not productive cause I'm getting worked up. But holy shit.
You don't know me either. Why do you get to call me potentially scum and I can't do the same even though my gut is telling me that it's a possibility?

And you know what else? Everyone who DOES know me this game and has played multiple games with me has SAID multiple times that I'm lock town. Nutella did, Mac did, Tim did, HK did, need I go further? In fact, one person who claimed to not know me and who tried to push for me stuff for stuff that those others read me town for (Sloonei) ended flipping scum. I've pushed on nearly ever scum this game from D1. Look at my ISO -- you'll see that I ended up calling Sloonei, Nanook, Marmot, Ted, AND 112 all scum multiple times at various points during D1 and D2. Do you think I bus my own teammate AND try to get rid of potentially teammates in 3P? I even tried voting Alison during D1. Do I need to go on?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:08 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:04 pmI don't really care if you take it as a scum claim. My gut has been telling me stuff. Today it's still telling me that one of you could be scum and that if you are, you came into today planning to try to chop me, which is why Hollowkatt was killed. Also, if Long Con didn't take Tutuu off the poll, then I'm assuming scum did, either because Tutuu is scum herself, or because again, scum wanted to come after me today rather than Tutuu for god knows what reason.
I couldn't care less about your so called gut. You don't know me at all. I'm confirmed town. It's not hard to understand. Literally every town that has flipped who actually know me and have played with me many times have fully town read me both on play and mech alike. If you are town, you are committed to being wrong on a pure fixation. I suggest you check that.

What are you even on about? Are you saying me, jpic AND tutu are scum now? What planet are you living on?

This conversation is not productive cause I'm getting worked up. But holy shit.

You don't know me either. Why do you get to call me potentially scum and I can't do the same even though my gut is telling me that it's a possibility?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:03 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:55 pm And here's another non-mechanical reason I'm town. On the day Ted was revealed to actually be mafia, do you really think I defend Wilgy when he's the 2nd leading wagon and Ted is still just a claimed 3P? Why don't I just stay on Wilgy and continue pushing on him to help protect Ted if he's my scumbuddy?
Well then look at my fucking reaction to Ted and my whole god damn play in this game for once. I literally argued we should kill Ted, not because he was mafia, but because I actually believed he was 3p. I thought he likely wasn't mafia because it would just be so stupid (sorry not sorry) to claim 3p as mafia, cause why the fuck would you think that would save you?

Why didn't you want to chop 112 the 2nd and final day she became the leading wagon? You kept saying you got "cold feet" until 112 did revealed that she was 3P. It felt very similar to what you were saying about Tim just yesterday. It felt like you wanted town cred for when you thought they were gonna flip town. In 112's case, you didn't realize 112 3P, and the moment she did claim it, you were all for chopping her. Why didn't you ever want to chop Alison when she claimed 3P too?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:00 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:53 pmHere's what I think. I think you guys have wanted to focus so much on mechanics because all the mechanical info that we know of points to you two being town. That same mechanical info pointed to one of Wilgy or Made being scum, yet BOTH of them flipped town.
1. Holy shit are you actually for real.
2. Even Wilgy and Made understood why the mech looked like they were scum. Made even self destructed because of that, because they understood why they had to die. OF COURSE we would think that when we are town. I'm more interested in why you didn't care at all. That's 100000x more scummy. Please explain why you haven't cared.
3. It's not "that same mechanical info" that clears either me or jpic. It's very different info. In fact, all mech is individual pieces of info. Like Jack's cop for example. That is mech, and we have used it for solving. That is how we use mech in games. Obviously. It gets confusing when roles are weird and messy, and sure mech can trip us over and clearly has, but one piece of mech tripping us up is not a reason to render all useless without looking at it. In fact, only scum would have a reason not to look at it, because they know everything from before.
4. If you're going to argue that one of us is scum you have to argue that we both are. I used a block on jpic tonight. He did not make the kill. If you're going to try to argue that I will seriously take it as a scum claim.

I don't really care if you take it as a scum claim. My gut has been telling me stuff. Today it's still telling me that one of you could be scum and that if you are, you came into today planning to try to chop me, which is why Hollowkatt was killed. Also, if Long Con didn't take Tutuu off the poll, then I'm assuming scum did, either because Tutuu is scum herself, or because again, scum wanted to come after me today rather than Tutuu for god knows what reason.

@Syn @Long Con Do you two trust me?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:54 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:53 pmHere's what I think. I think you guys have wanted to focus so much on mechanics because all the mechanical info that we know of points to you two being town. That same mechanical info pointed to one of Wilgy or Made being scum, yet BOTH of them flipped town.
Oh my god. Let it fucking go.

No.

And here's another non-mechanical reason I'm town. On the day Ted was revealed to actually be mafia, do you really think I defend Wilgy when he's the 2nd leading wagon and Ted is still just a claimed 3P? Why don't I just stay on Wilgy and continue pushing on him to help protect Ted if he's my scumbuddy?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:50 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:48 pm Maybe y'all should have listened to my initial read on Wilgy and just agreed that he was town instead of chopping him because of mechanics. :P
Yes, but if you are town, we need to figure out this together. So maybe you should learn why me and jpic are confirmed town and help hunt actual scum, how about that?

Here's what I think. I think you guys have wanted to focus so much on mechanics because all the mechanical info that we know of points to you two being town. That same mechanical info pointed to one of Wilgy or Made being scum, yet BOTH of them flipped town.

Maybe y'all should have listened to my initial read on Wilgy and just agreed that he was town instead of chopping him because of mechanics. :P

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:43 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:41 pm Also, i think the kill confirms LC even further? Like, i was kinda surprised HK was the nk but then remembered he had the track to confirm himself. Can’t kill LC due to the protect from alison

Really expected a dizzy nk tbh
I expected that too. But not from Hyena or Michelle. I don't think they really get why I'm confirmed town. I told Alison to protect either me or LC (but she probably wouldn't protect me, since I've been rather critical towards her role and wincon lol)

Yeah, I wouldn't kill you. I also wouldn't kill Hollowkatt though, because he townread me. :P

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:36 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:35 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:34 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:33 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:31 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:30 pm Hi. I tried giving a BTSC to Hollowkatt with Tim. :<
That would be beautiful indeed.

Which town are you going to scum read today? =p
Probably you or JPIC, like I have been. :P I dunno if you're town though.
Dizzy and I are confirmed town, friend
I'm confirmed town, too. :P Yet, you're still voting me.
You are definitely not confirmed town

I'm about to be.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:34 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:33 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:31 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:30 pm Hi. I tried giving a BTSC to Hollowkatt with Tim. :<
That would be beautiful indeed.

Which town are you going to scum read today? =p
Probably you or JPIC, like I have been. :P I dunno if you're town though.
Dizzy and I are confirmed town, friend

I'm confirmed town, too. :P Yet, you're still voting me.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:31 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:30 pm Hi. I tried giving a BTSC to Hollowkatt with Tim. :<

I didn't make the kill. We didn't chop mafia yesterday, and I gave out a BTSC to someone the night before. :P

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:31 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:30 pm Hi. I tried giving a BTSC to Hollowkatt with Tim. :<
That would be beautiful indeed.

Which town are you going to scum read today? =p

Probably you or JPIC, like I have been. :P I dunno if you're town though.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:16 pm @Hyena What ever made you vote Marmot back on D2?

Same question to @Syn actually

I first ended up on Tim because I was following Nutella's orders, though I did mention when I did vote for Tim that I was townreading him. Thus, when she mentioned wanting to go to Marmot instead, I was happy to go there because as I had mentioned several times that day and the previous day, Marmot seemed to be going out of his way not to really interact with me much.

Hi. I tried giving a BTSC to Hollowkatt with Tim. :<

[VOTE: Tim] aubergine
I can't vote for Tutuu after she was pro-chop just now. Sorry, Tim. ;-;

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