The Syndicate

Like I'm not saying I've been supa town leader or anything, but I've done more to solve this game than most people. I get paranoia/not bieng cleared pre-pesci, etc. But come on.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:31 pm confident town: - ignoring mechanics these people are playing townie games
tim
syn
dizzy
hyena
jpic
kyle
LC
HK

not confident town: - people in this bucket are mechanically likely to be town, but their play isn't filling me with confidence.
MR
Michelle
tutuu
made

not town: - obvs bucket is obvs.
alison
wiggly

This is...honestly insulting.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:04 pm I mean, we're buds now right?

That trying to shoot you would be a petty thing to hold a grudge over.

Yeah we cool.

I'm in Camp Modkill. No NK due to save + TSP admitting he broke the Pesci quoting rules + me being released = rebalancing.

But regardless I don't think it matters. I don't think it changes the gamestate we're in whether it's a role or modkill.

I mean I was ready to take liberties. He definitely has said 'process' and 'of' and 'elimination' at some points in his life.

I was given permission to stop being Pesci.

Minutes later a massacre happened.

Everyone: tutuu mech cleared town

Michelle: or is she actually...

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:42 pm

Okay, proceed then.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:04 pm Yes it matters for me what do you want

Matters because you think she's scum, or matters because you are annoyed at her refusal to let go of a tunnel?

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:03 pmanswer me

Does it matter if she does?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:37 pm it's probably wilgy but i think madefia is a wild enough guy to just be like "i'm immortal lol" and just roll with it and have it actually work

Yeah. I'd probably go with Made next if Wilgy flips green.

If it's not Wilgy, I really don't know who it is.

First of all we've got mech clears (Kyle, tutuu, LC), plus people who seem unlikely to be partnered based on mech stuff (Dizzy, Michelle) and people who are just super duper towny (JPIC, Syn).

Of the remaining PoE,
Hyena - looks spewed clear by Sloonei
Hollowkatt - looks even more spewed clear by Sloonei

Tim - everything about his game now makes sense and I feel its clear my roleblock wasn't responsible for preventing the MK so likely just not him
Made - um...I forget everything mech related about him, tbh, but I don't really see a case for him

Wilgy - questions around his role & claims

So like, if it's not Wilgy, it's...who?

Syn is that okay wit u?

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:10 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:13 am wilgy’s town game is a lot better / more invested than his iso looks and his EoD doesn’t look like he is pushing his reads / a more confident one that he should have.

i know it sounds pretty level 1 and whatnot but i think he despises wolfing and loooves villaging and the latter doesn’t show at all

i also secretly think he’d be having less posts but a lot more bite as a town probably, the more posts thing is wolfy for him because you need to post a lot as a wolf for town reads and as a town he just doesn’t care to post a lot, but cares in pushes etc etc
Do you think this is for a mate? @Master Radishes ?

Why not?

Ted went hard at Wilgy at the end. Could be a scum knowing it'd be the only thing that might save one of them. Imagine we'd flipped a wolf Wilgy instead - we would be probably giving Ted a chance now and believe him more.

And Wilgy getting a result in Dizzy's role makes no sense. Last time something about a role made no sense it turned out the wolf, Ted, was just lying.

Like so far all the mech stuff has made sense and our general PoE has been good...except for Ted. He disrupted us, but aside from him we've been collectivey correct.

Wilgy has not been part of that and has unresolved issues with his role claim.

I don't think this game is as complex as Ted made us fear. It's probably just Wilgy.

It's probably just Wilgy.

I remember seeing a ted/Michelle early game interaction that felt not w/w. I don't remember what now.

I'm still up for eliminating Alison and making this a town only win.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:05 am I only started to read the Sloonei ISO (up until D2), but

- I think I can comfortably take Hyena out of the PoE. Sloonei was really after them D0 and D1, made a huge case, does not look like distancing. Especially since Sloonei's actually distancing and behavior around teammates didn't go anywhere or were very "I can't read this person, I don't know" or "question, critical question, question" with no real consequence or follow up. His handling of Hyena is different, and Hyena put a spotlight on Sloonei very early on as well.

- Interaction looks good for Thunal too. Not as strong, but Sloonei did go Thunal over Cat for a moment, and had some beef with Thunal. The way he talks about her does not feel like teammates.

- No real conclusions on Wilgy, Made or Tim. There's a lot of awkward interaction between Tim and Sloonei. More awkward on Tim's part actually, who seems to be weirdly fixated on Sloonei and take issue with weird things.

But strongest impression is that Hyena in particular and also Thunal look good so far. Will continue later.

I feel the opposite. He eventually dropped his Hyena suss but got stronger on Thunal/HK as time went on. If either is spewed town its probably HK tbh, despite his slot generally being PoE by all standard measures.

Hyena probably is just town too despite also being a sdcummy slot otherwise. Sloonei avoided heavy interaction with his known teammates. Even cat he barely touched despite the suspicion of them in thread.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:27 am I assumed the mason thing was just a running joke

Not a specific one we always do or anything, but we've played together before a few times and yeah it was obviously a joke.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:25 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:58 am @hollowkatt how do you think is the mason thing Ted claimed to have with MrR?
ted claimed a mason thing with MR?

When he subbed in he called me his mason and I accepted. It was clearly a joke, not a serious claim. I recognised it could be pocketing but generally townread his entrance and appreciated someone not scum reading me (as nutella was doing at the time).

Michelle, give it up. Tutuu is confirmed town. Your tunnel is over now.

Shut up I am too working.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:14 am If the recipients of Jack's ability don't have to exclusively post their obligatory posts, then what is stopping radish from posting Joe Pesci all day and posting a Simpsons GIF when there is one minute left in the day?

It is clear in the PM one receives this would not be allowed.

I have a bandage on my thumb from cutting it last night and am struggling with phone typing. I should probably give up and get back to my job anyway.

Wtf where did that come from? Did I hit a button on my phone?

Spoiler: show

Btw you guys actually suck. "Oh he's quoting Joe Pesci? Must be a wolf anyway! Now let's find a way to justify that read."

As you guys eventually figured out I roleblocked Tim. I did it to clear the PoE. I have no idea what the latest deaths mean w.r.t. that. But I felt his reaction when he realised what I'd done was actually pretty townie. I think he was purposely being wEiRd to give himself time to get another shot off. It makes sense.

I agree with JPIC that HK looks pretty clear off Sloonspew though in a vacuum he belongs in the PoE still.

Considering Ted was just straight up lying, we still have all mech resolved after all...except for one person, the one Ted seemed very confident was a wolf.

I mean, that sucks, but we still have a buffer of townies here.

Dizzy's list is basically mine.

So um.

Did TSP get mod killed for breaking the rules,

and then Jack died because he no longer should have had protection?

Wait what

Ive been released from my quote restrictions! Thank you gracious hosts!

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:19 am Wilgy apparently landing on dizzy does need some resolution imo

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:44 pm New theory: Tim is deliberately being weird to avoid getting NKed so he can charge up another vig shot.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:53 pm lol, there's scum here: tedxtr, Long Con, Justplayingitcool, tutuu

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:30 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:25 am Reason to clear people/trustfall (not really, just where I'm at and what I've been paying attention to)

Jack - Literally flipped town.
TSP - Checked town by Jack and could have protected people for the no NKs.
Kyle - Red checked Ted and shot Nanook.
MR - Checked town by Jack, but has a weird role I don't understand, but whatever. Has seemed reasonably town most game bth.
LC - Double outed Ted with Tracking, was checked town by Kyle on N2 (?)
Michelle - Was switched with Ted by Ted and received a song on N1.
Tutu - Was checked town by Kyle on N3 (no block on Kyle that night)
Syn - Still has wim, chose the Marmot wagon, seems very town in posting imo
JPIC - Reasonably town posting and received a song on N2.

^All of these are people I have reason to believe is town.

The rest:

Alison - Claims 3p and all actions have checked out. 3p.

Wilgy - Claims a weird role that he holstered the first nights. Then became role checker. Checked Michelle, but got my role somehow? This is unresolved. Ted really wanted Wilgy dead. Wilgy tried to go other places with Ted at EoD. Not cleared imo.
Hyena - Has dropped off in activity. Sets up btsc with people. Otherwise reasonable posting, I think? Not cleared though. Comments?
Made - Weirdest claim yet. No idea what role is. Liked his posting in the start of the game, liked it less and less tbh. But I have no idea here.
HK - I don't remember claim, but claims a passive role. I actually don't think they are scum, but I also don't think they are cleared?
Tim - Claims vig every 3rd night. No shots has gone through though. Worst laser in history, including Space game? lol.

How does this all sound?

There's definitely town in the bottom five. Maybe 3-4 town. But I think there should be a mafia there too?
Agree with your PoE. Still think HK is reasonably town judging from Sloonei ISO. Sloonei wanted Katt's blood at like every opportunity.

hyena not sure but he has used his role for good.

*Joe Pesci nod*

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:25 am Reason to clear people/trustfall (not really, just where I'm at and what I've been paying attention to)

Jack - Literally flipped town.
TSP - Checked town by Jack and could have protected people for the no NKs.
Kyle - Red checked Ted and shot Nanook.
MR - Checked town by Jack, but has a weird role I don't understand, but whatever. Has seemed reasonably town most game bth.
LC - Double outed Ted with Tracking, was checked town by Kyle on N2 (?)
Michelle - Was switched with Ted by Ted and received a song on N1.
Tutu - Was checked town by Kyle on N3 (no block on Kyle that night)
Syn - Still has wim, chose the Marmot wagon, seems very town in posting imo
JPIC - Reasonably town posting and received a song on N2.

^All of these are people I have reason to believe is town.

The rest:

Alison - Claims 3p and all actions have checked out. 3p.

Wilgy - Claims a weird role that he holstered the first nights. Then became role checker. Checked Michelle, but got my role somehow? This is unresolved. Ted really wanted Wilgy dead. Wilgy tried to go other places with Ted at EoD. Not cleared imo.
Hyena - Has dropped off in activity. Sets up btsc with people. Otherwise reasonable posting, I think? Not cleared though. Comments?
Made - Weirdest claim yet. No idea what role is. Liked his posting in the start of the game, liked it less and less tbh. But I have no idea here.
HK - I don't remember claim, but claims a passive role. I actually don't think they are scum, but I also don't think they are cleared?
Tim - Claims vig every 3rd night. No shots has gone through though. Worst laser in history, including Space game? lol.

How does this all sound?

There's definitely town in the bottom five. Maybe 3-4 town. But I think there should be a mafia there too?

"Halle-fucking-lujah someone understands where we're at."

-Joe Pesci, probably

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:43 am MR what else does Joe Pesci have to say about tutuu being town

"Yes."

"Duh. "

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:40 am .Radishes is tunneled on me for being disrespectful.

"No."

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:38 am
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:30 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:27 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:26 amwhy would anyone roleblock tim?

Radish, answer in your best Joe Pesci voice...did you figure out I was an every third night vig and role block me?
"No."

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:30 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:27 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:26 amwhy would anyone roleblock tim?

Radish, answer in your best Joe Pesci voice...did you figure out I was an every third night vig and role block me?

"No."

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:28 am
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:28 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:26 am i dont think master radish is wolf because of him putting a lot of effort to quote pesci, maybe he just needs to die coz tim claims to have shot him anyway?

why would he be alive? why would anyone roleblock tim?
Radishes would to keep me from shooting him.
my point was why would scum roleblock tim when we all thought ur 1-shot

but probably radish is town and he blocked u coz he thought ur mafia

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:26 amwhy would anyone roleblock tim?

Wait did TSP not quote Pesci all day?

I'm gonna stop posting for a bit to check something.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:12 am
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:09 am
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:08 am Sloonei could still talk though, so Radishes wouldn't be stuck in just gifs if Jacks power actually worked.
Based on what I was told, it doesn't need to be gif quoting. Any quoting will do.

And I wasn't told that they exclusively have to respond all day in quotes, but I never got to try it out because I used it on Nanook and somebody blasted him.

Our only experience is Sloonei, who would exclusively gif post just for spew and lolcatting, and now Radishes who is also exclusively sticking to gif posting.
Sloonei didn't exclusively gif post.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 27, 2021 4:20 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 27, 2021 4:18 pm I think Sloonei is either saying I have come to the meat of the matter... or that we should fear a Meat Kill, way worse than a Soup Kill.
I'm a stupid moron with an ugly face and a big butt and my butt smells and I like to kiss my own butt.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:07 am And all that MrR did with his push on DrW was helping Ted in his lies.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:44 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:43 pm we're basically at the point of the game where we're working our way down the PoE, if there's someone you think deserves to be ahead of you in the PoE that's how you can survive long enough to prove your flagship thing
Yeah. This. Keeping Ted around as a backup chop is silly and he knows it. If he wants to live that's not the argument that's going to win me over.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:10 pm [VOTE: Ted] aubergine

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:37 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:35 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:34 pmto sow confusion

which he has succeeded in

an unknown redirector screws everything up
That seems like a silly idea. As mafia you always claim as close to the truth as you can, or else you'll get found out. I'm not Wilgy, but that just seems ...not the most logical thing to do. But what do I know.
Yeah.

Also, of the two of them, Wilgy's claim felt most like it was made without agenda. Like he felt like a townie thinking it was better not to give anything up, but accepting he needed to to clear himself.

Ted was just like 'oh lol actually I'm 3P'.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:50 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:49 pm Hold on. I have an idea. A compromise.

Ted's wincon is to blast a certain scum right?

Why not we yeet someone on the PoE that can't be rolechecked out of PoE (me) and at the same time keep Ted around until it's unsafe? Like, how many rounds with Ted do we have left before him being 3p is a risk. We can at least try to yeet Ted's teammate if he is scum.
Please no.

We need to resolve at least one of you or this will continue to distract us tomorrow.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:56 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:55 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:53 pm how does this not make sense to people???????
It may be other mechanics that are not mafia redirects. We don't know everything about this game. Nutella literally did a self sacrifice, got Jack resurrected, on the night Martin was supposed to jail her and I was supposed to protect her from all harm.

Town still has time to resolve Wilgy. You don't have time, but that's not town's problem. Sorry.
Yeah. This. Again.

Ted is not on our team. We owe him nothing.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:59 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:58 pm voting for Ted solves literally nothing, why is this hard to grok?
Kyle's role suggests Ted is lying - why is that so hard to grok?

It's not a bad yeet. He may be 3P, but it's not a bad yeet.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:04 am Radishes, seriously, if this is you and the wolf team going down to final defeat I might have to get "the little laser tower that could" tattooed on a butt cheek or something.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:02 am is there any indication that anyone, anywhere, has the power to gif/mute Radishes?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:39 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:35 pm @Sloonei please full claim

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:04 pm Hope my peek went through.

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