The Syndicate

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:28 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:27 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:44 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:50 am They claimed RBer later. Probably a claim close to their real role and they can say it is a way of claiming safe if they are villager to avoid a soup kill. Whether a soup kill exists or not, we don't really know it because 'Role/flavour claiming is allowed but it may not be in your best interests' doesn't imply an anticlaim mechanic that big, but mafia can have a claim vigi for eg.

I was thinking about this earlier. I don't think there's a soup kill mechanic. I know that's the Big Bad Scary Monster of Syndicate games, but it's not actually all that common in games I've been in. I think JPIC's counter to mass claiming is the fact that roles aren't being revealed upon flip. That opens the door for fake claims from scum.

This is not me advocating for a full claim or anything. I hate when games devolve into mech stuff. But I think it's *probably* okay for people to claim if they really want to.

Says the guy who told me what you did last night is nothing that concerns me

Why don’t you start, since you’re not averse to everyone claiming

I'd rather not.

I meant was that it didn't involve you.

(Like what I did with my role, if indeed I have a role (HAHA WIFOM), was not targeted at or around you. Just to be crystal.)

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:27 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:44 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:50 am They claimed RBer later. Probably a claim close to their real role and they can say it is a way of claiming safe if they are villager to avoid a soup kill. Whether a soup kill exists or not, we don't really know it because 'Role/flavour claiming is allowed but it may not be in your best interests' doesn't imply an anticlaim mechanic that big, but mafia can have a claim vigi for eg.

I was thinking about this earlier. I don't think there's a soup kill mechanic. I know that's the Big Bad Scary Monster of Syndicate games, but it's not actually all that common in games I've been in. I think JPIC's counter to mass claiming is the fact that roles aren't being revealed upon flip. That opens the door for fake claims from scum.

This is not me advocating for a full claim or anything. I hate when games devolve into mech stuff. But I think it's *probably* okay for people to claim if they really want to.

Says the guy who told me what you did last night is nothing that concerns me

Why don’t you start, since you’re not averse to everyone claiming

I'd rather not.

I meant was that it didn't involve you.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:24 am

DkKoba wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:23 am i have no hope for this town to even bother sheeping me after i die becauae a vast majority of you have clearly only read ~5% of the game and it shows

I never read dead vills.

(And obviously if you're a wolf I'm definitely not reading you.)

DkKoba wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:23 am i have no hope for this town to even bother sheeping me after i die becauae a vast majority of you have clearly only read ~5% of the game and it shows

I never read dead vills.

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:21 am NULLS:
Made
Ender
MR
Nook
Wilgy
TSP
sig

Do you not buy TSP's claim about Sig being mech clear?


We uh. We have a lot in common. What are your thoughts on Ender?

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:11 am Oh i remember something you were the last person on dya's wagon iirc? Why did you choose dya over the other wagons?

Said this in an earlier post but in a nutshell I came in at EoD and didn't have time to process everything so I just sheeped my townreads who had all swapped to Dya. I also low key liked that it was a last minute wagon swap tbh, especially one on someone like Dya who I assumed wouldn't be wagoned for no reason. Felt the momentum was probably towny and so I followed it.

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:11 am @Master Radishes i dont know what to talk about because we barely interacted and I didn't catch up or iso you, but I wanna read you so I wanna interact with you. If that makes sense

Yeah I was sitting here trying to think of a good question to throw back at you and all I can think of are stupid ones people sometimes ask like 'are you in your scum range' and 'GTH who is slipping under the radar' and stuff like that I don't actually care about.

Maybe give me your PoE and we can compare? Or your list of uncertains/nulls if you prefer.

Oh yeah the Koba 'Creature posts' slip thing.

Ngl I don't want to read Koba's iso either because I don't like their tone and my eyes so far tend to glaze over at their posts. I'm willing to trust people on that.

Poison said she'd talk with me then ghosted.

As I've read Ender's posts sporadically throughout the game I feel they're /fine/ but he feels very...detached? from the collective. Like he's not truly slanking but I don't feel like his contributions have added much to the direction of the thread, and he doesn't seem bothered by that. (I realise the same criticism can be leveled at me but I *am* bothered by it.)

I haven't opened up his iso and maybe I should. I'd probably end up nitpicking though, and my concern is more on a macro level anyway.

Also when I looked at Dya's wagon earlier I felt there were very few options for an opportunistic scum and it was basically him or Michelle (putting aside certain slots for raisins) and Michelle has been poisoned and so far D2 seems sharp in the way I expect from her.

112 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:49 pm hi sorry, long couple of days. renovations in my suite are ongoing and it's stressful on top of general business

[VOTE: enderwiggin] aubergine

^because i'm 50 pages behind and will be going by gut until i catch up on enough details

Hmm.

Okay this is not as confident as I hoped.

Oh 112 is already there.

112 town.

Does anyone want to start a third wagon on Ender with me? I know Rondo did a bigass post but I didn't read any of it.

Speaking of Urist the role is specific enough not to be made up and doesn't really sound like a role scum would get. I wouldn't necessarily bank the game on that if we get to LYLO and Urist is there, but I'm fine with removing him from my PoE.

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:47 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:44 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:50 am They claimed RBer later. Probably a claim close to their real role and they can say it is a way of claiming safe if they are villager to avoid a soup kill. Whether a soup kill exists or not, we don't really know it because 'Role/flavour claiming is allowed but it may not be in your best interests' doesn't imply an anticlaim mechanic that big, but mafia can have a claim vigi for eg.

I was thinking about this earlier. I don't think there's a soup kill mechanic. I know that's the Big Bad Scary Monster of Syndicate games, but it's not actually all that common in games I've been in. I think JPIC's counter to mass claiming is the fact that roles aren't being revealed upon flip. That opens the door for fake claims from scum.

This is not me advocating for a full claim or anything. I hate when games devolve into mech stuff. But I think it's *probably* okay for people to claim if they really want to.

Why do you think it's okay to claim when we don't have flips? I mean people can claim literally anything and we wouldn't be able to judge properly or go for lynch unhesitatingly

As I said, I don't advocate for it. I just don't think the downside is 'soup kill' and if people like Urist want to make their choice then it's their choice.

@Ruri is your read on me basically 'he's slanking'?

(Depends who x y and z are actually.)

Please don't say 'what do you think about x y and z' that's too much for me.

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:45 am @Made talk to me. @Master Radishes Talk to me.

Whaddya wanna talk about

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:50 am They claimed RBer later. Probably a claim close to their real role and they can say it is a way of claiming safe if they are villager to avoid a soup kill. Whether a soup kill exists or not, we don't really know it because 'Role/flavour claiming is allowed but it may not be in your best interests' doesn't imply an anticlaim mechanic that big, but mafia can have a claim vigi for eg.

I was thinking about this earlier. I don't think there's a soup kill mechanic. I know that's the Big Bad Scary Monster of Syndicate games, but it's not actually all that common in games I've been in. I think JPIC's counter to mass claiming is the fact that roles aren't being revealed upon flip. That opens the door for fake claims from scum.

This is not me advocating for a full claim or anything. I hate when games devolve into mech stuff. But I think it's *probably* okay for people to claim if they really want to.

Ruri wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:29 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:58 pm @Ruri why are you voting me?

Oh, you noticed. I'm voting in POE. Tell me about yourself.

I'll think about it.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:19 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:16 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:12 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:09 pm I believe 112 is town tbh. What you are pushing him for is town indicative for 112.

Do you not think that metas can be faked if you know your meta?

112s a better wolf than that. What are you pushing him for is NAI from her

I guess I don’t know what a “better wolf” looks like. The progression isn’t showcased, and so I’m supposed to just shrug and townread them for that?

lol I guess that was what Ted was tunneling me for all the way in the beginning of the game, so whatever

Town 112 often doesn't 'showcase progression'. Scum 112 is more likely to. Town 112 is more likely to make snapreads no one can follow.

This version of 112 is null atm. She's still in her scum range but I've not seen anything I want to point at and call out. Not really worth an immediate chop.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:50 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:37 pm Voters: MacDougall, KZA, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Michelle, Epignosis, Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
Michelle

For my own reference.

I'll pass on Michelle.

That leaves me with Nanook, Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, Rondo, and Ender.

Nanook is all grunts. Whatever.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:18 am [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:00 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:59 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:58 pm Just got home from a party.

Who am I voting for?

This is wolf

It is not. I've missed 600 posts and didn't know Dya was in the game.

This second post was two minutes before the deadline.

The move from Scotty (who is a civilian, correct?) to Dya at the eleventh hour without any context or care looks like shit.

Perhaps this has been talked about and I haven't read it, but Master Radishes came in, voted Dya without knowing Dya was in the game. That's how it reads to me right now.

I arrived home right before the deadline. I was hundreds of posts behind, Syn and Dya were the wagon options, and the one I was on was dead. I noticed Dya was now in the game but didn't have time to figure out why they had a wagon; all I saw was that it was the one with the most last minute momentum and a lot of people I townread were on it. I didn't have time to parse the nuances of it, so I just sheeped Mac, KZA, and Rondo.

I see it is time to suss MR, presumably for being slanky and 'not doing anything'.

I hope she never opens my laptop and reads the things I say though.

No wife today.

Time for some MAFIA

What I should be doing: work

What I am not doing: work

This just reminds me why I slank and shitpost all the time instead of trying.

Now i'm going to sleep and I stg if I wake up to more than 300 more posts I just won't read them.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:07 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:58 pm Also hi Bo! CDC crew needed a 4th.

Hey MR. You got any reads I can steal? Don't feel like sifting through 80 pages.

Just posted my extended PoE. Feel free to steal.

Don't bother with backreading. It's a lot of unnecessary fluff tbh. The good bits are scattered.

Not fully sure how to feel tbh...reasons to like but also not fully convinced?
Dkkoba
Poison
DrWilgy

No idea, just...need to see more
Falcon
112

Not a fan
Urist
Ender

This is just a hit
Made



I feel like I have decently strong reasons to townread everyone else.

Also hi Bo! CDC crew needed a 4th.

@Ruri why are you voting me?

I promise I have thoughts and things but I keep wanting to, like, iso to confirm or challenge them and it takes all my free time just to read what I missed.

Can we kill the top posters pls

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:51 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:50 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:43 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:44 am

I really wish Ted had shit you instead

Still bugs me

Well this is an image

hi

Did you do anything fancy last night?

Not anything that concerns you.

Every time I catch up I fall behind again.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:43 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:44 am

I really wish Ted had shit you instead

Still bugs me

Well this is an image

Michelle is the poisoner?

Made wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:12 pm Gun to head, scum was trying to dodge the doc save. Regardless

@MacDougall we are contacting you concerning your car's extended warranty

This just feels so bleh. Like he knows he can't actually frame Mac but is hoping it will sow a seed of doubt anyway. Trying to have it both ways.

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:10 am this might be a bit wild, apologies if im too off

but i saw that mac was poisoned sod2, and sig also saw it. there was a temporary host error

I feel like this is info we shouldn't have or use tbh.

She won't continue to do so forever. Apparently sitting at home all day playing Mafia is not acceptable on a bank holiday.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:09 am I thought you didn't have time to collate your thoughts? how did you manifest time?

My wife is currently ignoring me.

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:08 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:07 am Made was scumread really early on in D1 wasn't he? Why did people decide otherwise? I haven't read his posts much but he's come across as kind of awkward. His shade of Mac at SoD2 where he implied Mac being alive was suss also wasn't great.

shade on syn and me also aint great

He's the only one voting Syn now isn't he. Hmm.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:05 am Epi and Ender both voting 112 is interdasting

Epi probably just town because dayvig thingy.

But Ender I feel has been doing enough to not get called out for slanking whilst not actually achieving much.

Made was scumread really early on in D1 wasn't he? Why did people decide otherwise? I haven't read his posts much but he's come across as kind of awkward. His shade of Mac at SoD2 where he implied Mac being alive was suss also wasn't great.

@112 were are you anyway fam?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:03 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:02 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:02 am hot take tedxtr is a scum desperado that flips as town

Says the mafia inno child.

yes that is the joke

See, I get Aussie humour