The Syndicate

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:06 pm I think radish is towny idk tbh, just a feeling.

Sick crosspost

Poison we never finished our chat from earlier.

I don't remember what we were talking about but uh

What are your thoughts on people and stuff?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:53 pm I think radish and made are scum.

So I confirmed your night result on me was accurate and you think I'm...lying?

It'd be nice if you could get this past. I finally am feeling in sync with the game. (Largely thanks to you in fact.

)

Just checked, OP says no hammer.

Ruri wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:49 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:33 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:30 pm
Ruri wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:29 pm @Poison @Master Radishes
You're both in my POE. Radishes moreso.
coming to thread lacking awareness/seemingly care about top two wagons towards the end of the day means town IMO. Especially if DK is scum.
Ruri has done a number of little things I find towny. Or I think she has. I keep thinking 'mm, that feels town' and then reading on and forgetting to note down what it was. But yeah.

On another note Made I appreciate you still sort of solving on your own here. If you happen to be town you have a unique perspective.

(And if you're scum then your spew will be delicious.)

I feel like we keep missing each other. Like you've thrown votes at me without much explanation, or I've missed answering questions you've posed, or stuff like this where I don't really know what your emoji means.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:40 pm Mr R, what do you think about Bo?

A bit early to tell for sure, but he feels comfortable despite probably having read next to nothing. He's not been afraid to poke his head in and post whatever he feels like, silly/off topic or not. He's stuck to some very light reads on people he knows (e.g. falcon) and a few easy questions, but considering he's subbed in to a huge game I don't think that's AI. We'll see how it evolves when he finds his footing.

I leaned town on Syn too so Bo is a townlean, albeit still a light green.

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:36 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:27 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:25 pm if anyone like me was wondering who hasn't voted yet - it's Poison.
I will give this an /interesting/
I talked about this before, but I don't like to vote multiple times or earlier in a phase when I'm not sure about my read.

Although I might vote soonish after class cause I'll have dinner and go to bed and won't be here during EOD.

I'll give this an /interesting/

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:29 pm When i interacted with Rondo earlier he posted a reads list and a case on Ender, and he mentioned Dkkoba as villager in the reads by mechanics, even if there is no proof itt. He said is something personal about that read

I asked why he don't defend his TR and he didn't post anything since that moment.

I don't know what to do with this and i post it here, as a suspicion against Rondo.

Rondo was a pretty strong townlean of mine D1. His energy has certainly dipped D2. I could scum being demoralised today if we're indeed correct about our worldview here. OTOH I think Rondo's energy dip began before the Made/Koba wagons truly formed? So I'm not sure it's actually connected.

Basically I keep Rondo in my townreads atm but acknowledge it's more based on D1 behaviour than D2.

Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:30 pm
Ruri wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:29 pm @Poison @Master Radishes
You're both in my POE. Radishes moreso.
coming to thread lacking awareness/seemingly care about top two wagons towards the end of the day means town IMO. Especially if DK is scum.

Ruri has done a number of little things I find towny. Or I think she has. I keep thinking 'mm, that feels town' and then reading on and forgetting to note down what it was. But yeah.

On another note Made I appreciate you still sort of solving on your own here. If you happen to be town you have a unique perspective.

(And if you're scum then your spew will be delicious.)

Ruri wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:29 pm @Poison @Master Radishes
You're both in my POE. Radishes moreso.

Read up before you go making such bold declarations.

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:26 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME back when i had a beard i shaved it off when mantis was working. she got really really mad when she got home and didn't talk to me for like two days. just fyi.

Is this code

Do you two have a code

That'd be badass

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:25 pm if anyone like me was wondering who hasn't voted yet - it's Poison.

I will give this an /interesting/

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:22 pm i don't even know why made has votes tbh

Cuz he scummy

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:59 am
DkKoba wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:57 am
Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:55 am I just iso'd DK...it tells a different story than reading in thread does

[VOTE: DK] aubergine

if DK is scum tho, it's odd their teammates didn't latch on to my hesitation as a means to start another wagon
Someone yelled at made in scumchat to vote me LMAO
Hey tutuu i bet it was you ~~~
Both you and Made should apply for Hollywood

'Broadway' would have been a better punchline tbh.

@112 @falcon45ca @BoKnows

Does Koba seem like Aladeen to you?

Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:27 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:24 am Also Made's stagnant takes on D1's wagons (i.e. still sussing Syn, kinda Sig) just feels...out of place. Like he's unable to make proper progression on D1's gamestate.

This may be confbias but it also may just be a hit.
I mean I was comfortable with how day 1 ended until y'all decided to off dya out of nowhere, and I don't like that we're looking away from that, which is why the evolution of my reads has been towards people who are pushing us away from that--IE tutuu

I mean D1 ended with 4 main wagons at some point in the final hours from what I can tell: Dya, Scotty, Syn, Sig. Two of those are now confirmed town. That doesn't shake your view at all?

Also Made's stagnant takes on D1's wagons (i.e. still sussing Syn, kinda Sig) just feels...out of place. Like he's unable to make proper progression on D1's gamestate.

This may be confbias but it also may just be a hit.

Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:21 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:18 am [VOTE: DkKoba] aubergine

Ties make things interesting.
from my perspective (which thinks DK is town, and knows I am town), this vote only make sense as town--unless it's to prevent another wagon from taking off which i just don't see in this game state.

Not gonna lie, your reading of your counterwagon as town feels like something I'd think I should do as a wolf.

Just remembered I meant to bring this up:

Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:03 am
Poison wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:52 am
Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:49 am
Poison wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:42 am @Made returned from gym yet? Can't talk to you at EoD, I wander around in the dreamland that time
hi friend! i am here for while wazzzupp
I have exactly 40 mins before I go attend the class.

what is your opinion on yesterday's famous wagons [except scotty] not being today's choice? how do you perceive that and what do you think might have happened that makes you a better option than them?
I mean I hate CFD, so I don't like it. I don't think anyone else is on the record as hating them this game, so no easy go tos there. I'm assuming the reason we're not looking at Sig is that something was revealed there. If nothing was revealed there, I don't like that. Same with SynKnows. I get not wanting to vote slots right after they enter a game, but I didn't like syn's d1 or Bo's thread entry so I still have sus there.

TSP hard implied he had mech info that Sig was town. No one has talked about it since and they've both gone pretty quiet. I don't know what to make of it. But for now, yeah, that's why Sig has fallen off the radar.

And yeah I love flash wagons tbh. Though mainly when I'm generating them myself. Maybe I'll try one later.

[VOTE: DkKoba] aubergine

Ties make things interesting.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:58 am Won’t be around EoD bc work

My TRs are all screwy. Also I lied, my passive ability only gives me a random track. I don’t know if MR actually had an info ability, but he’s seemingly running with it. So he may or may not have that.

He grew confident and solvy as soon as he was given that freedom tho, and I don’t know what to make of it. Maybe he is town. Dunno.

Slick.

Meta read: Bo being towny

(Might be biased because I already read Syn as town.)

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:30 am @Poison i don't think there's any reason for you to claim your target or anything else about your role at this time

Agree

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:28 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:48 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:57 am I would contend that 3 people claiming to have targeted tutuu last night gives tutuu a lot of town equity, especially if any of urist/radish/poison are mafia
Got a moderate belief that those are town with exception of Radishes. And his action might just make him town.
I see it the other way around- despite what tutuu is saying i don’t think it’s exactly townsided. It is confirmed he knows something of tutuu, so holding it back at this point is still fishy to me.

I’m still in on him being mafia

I'm not outing anything further so

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:25 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:24 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:22 am MR has gotten to the point where I don't try to read them anymore. I've literally always been wrong. My efforts are better elsewhere.

Mad respect tho.
I don't know whether this is a compliment or not considering I think I'm always town in games with you.
And I always misyeet you

It's more of a slight on my ability. You are good tho and I enjoy playing with you.

I'm actually a really easy read once you get to know my meta. My town game is slanky and shitposty but with occasional moments of accuracy that usually help to bring down at least one scum at some point, though more as a follower/helper behind someone more confident and loud like Nutella or Hally or whoever. My scum game barely exists because I don't often rand it and when I do I die early and easily because I struggle to mimic proper solving.

Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:25 am This is probably not where I'll vote today, but this is my sussest read rn tbh
[VOTE: Tutuu] aubergine

Is this just you giving up

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:23 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:21 am Falcon may be scum. That last post did not sit well with me.

Spoiler: show
But uh huge grain of salt here. I've mis-read him twice in a row this month. (Or to be clear the second time I was mafia so it wasn't a misread, but he was being conventionally wolfy and other town chopped him with little help needed from me except voicing my support. I definitely would've misread him had I been town.) I think he's not really been tryharding much in games lately and it's leading him to do standard scummy stuff even as town because he's just not really paying attention or something.

Sorry if this is insulting Falc.

i feel we'd know that Falcon is scum by now unless his game evolved.

The problem here is mainly he's been low activity. That's NAI, but it also means one iffy post makes him stand out to me.

I agree we can probably resolve him fairly easily with time.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:22 am MR has gotten to the point where I don't try to read them anymore. I've literally always been wrong. My efforts are better elsewhere.

Mad respect tho.

I don't know whether this is a compliment or not considering I think I'm always town in games with you.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:20 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:18 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:17 am Actually I wouldn't be surprised if MR was town this game.

That would be two games in a row I've thought he's scum when he's town.
I am...not unfamiliar with being misread.

When did we play together? Sorry for forgetting.
We didn't. I was in Spec in Bonk mafia, trying to solve the game unspoiled.

I had you as scum for like, all the way until end-d2.

Oh I see.

I think you just fell into the trap others often fall into when encountering me for the first time. I do fuck all most of the early game. Lately I've *wanted* to change that but have sort of struggled to break my own meta in that regard for various reasons.

Falcon may be scum. That last post did not sit well with me.

Spoiler: show

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:17 am Actually I wouldn't be surprised if MR was town this game.

That would be two games in a row I've thought he's scum when he's town.

I am...not unfamiliar with being misread.

When did we play together? Sorry for forgetting.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:15 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:33 am @falcon45ca who do you think is mafia?
Fucked if I know.

I'm fine with lynching DK, MR, Ender right now

Mmmmm sorry, the time for opportunistically shading me has passed.

That said Ender,

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:54 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:46 am Shut up wolf.
Well, first, I suggest you start calling around for quotes to deconstruct your tunnel.

Second, you realise how this specific take on engaging with people you think is scummy is not only demoralizing for wrongly tunnelled town but just make me less and less inclined to actually try and solve?

If you said "I think you're still wolfy for this and this." or tried to debate my points or just ignored my reads, w/e. But every time I try to participate when you're around you just sit there saying "DIE WOLF" or some vaguely reminiscent statement with no content.

There's part of me that wants to ignore all my read on you so far every time you do it because I just don't want to be part of thread where you're town and doing that.

This is fair. I don't know that it changes my read on you but on the off chance I'm wrong I think it's fair to let you have some space to breathe.

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:09 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:07 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:38 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:52 am Does anyone want to start a third wagon on Ender with me? I know Rondo did a bigass post but I didn't read any of it.
The bigass post was saying I was more town than scum rn. But go off king.
I mean fine but from glancing at the conclusion he doesn't seem entirely sold on it, like not to the point of shielding you or anything.
That's because anything he can townread me for he knows I could fake.

So then why should I trust his read on you

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:51 am Urist's claim was fake for the record, it was a joke. Not that it matters

What

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:45 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:44 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:36 am I want to go on record as saying all town in this game you suck
Dw I know.
Town is doing amazing this day phase don't let the wolves demoralize you.

Agree with this. Like I'm sure there must be at least one wolf or even two who have escaped the PoE but this gamestate doesn't feel like town eating itself, it feels like town that hasn't quite found cohesion but is slowly boxing in the scum team.

I am also probably not the person to be making gamestate reads but too late.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:38 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:52 am Does anyone want to start a third wagon on Ender with me? I know Rondo did a bigass post but I didn't read any of it.
The bigass post was saying I was more town than scum rn. But go off king.

I mean fine but from glancing at the conclusion he doesn't seem entirely sold on it, like not to the point of shielding you or anything.

DkKoba wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:06 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:58 am
DkKoba wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:57 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:54 am irl my life is in turmoil and I can't do this soz
Answer my 112 question
Come on. Leave the guy alone.
No.

He literally said he can't play right now due to IRL stuff.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:06 am Kk.

Explain MR wagon to me.

Voting DK in meantime.

Epi didn't like my last minute vote on Dya

Mac I think just doesn't like my thread position of 'posting but not doing much' or however he might describe it

Scotty doesn't know that Fiona and me do it in my van every sunday

DkKoba wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:57 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:54 am irl my life is in turmoil and I can't do this soz
Answer my 112 question

Come on. Leave the guy alone.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:57 am I would contend that 3 people claiming to have targeted tutuu last night gives tutuu a lot of town equity, especially if any of urist/radish/poison are mafia

I too think Tutuu is town.

I don't have a personal opinion on Koba but every time I read what tutuu says about them I become convinced she's probably just right.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:54 am irl my life is in turmoil and I can't do this soz

Mafia is just a game fam. Good luck with IRL.

Sorry if my sass earlier riled you up.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:45 am Anyway, i have an ability that can learn if a player got info from another player.

Master Radishes visited tutuu last night and learned something

Correct.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:40 am Radish, you’ve since ignored my post calling you out for not disclosing your role.

So if you’re so gung-ho on suggesting we all claim, why not go ahead and get us started? I insist

Bruh read my posts before you go calling me out. I said loud and clear twice I don't advocate for a reveal. I just said there's likely not a soup kill.

Daddy Mac is mad at me

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:36 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:36 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:29 am (im reading along and have nothing to add, im happy with this game state)

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:35 am this entire bullshit gamestate makes me angry
Oh no mommy tutuu and daddy mac are fighting again
you're not helping you wolfy ass fuck

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:35 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:34 am Ruri
112 (was actually reading something from her in the thread that i like, but i dn't remember much from her)
Syn
epi (wanna talk about this later)

Urist [not thinking about his claim]
Koba
@Scotty this is my scummish to scum read.

Oh wait I misread your list. Why did you put your sum in the middle?

Okay we have less in common than I thought.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:29 am (im reading along and have nothing to add, im happy with this game state)

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:35 am this entire bullshit gamestate makes me angry

Oh no mommy tutuu and daddy mac are fighting again

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:29 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:52 am Does anyone want to start a third wagon on Ender with me? I know Rondo did a bigass post but I didn't read any of it.
No.

This is telling me that at least 2 of made/you/strawberry are mafia

Who is Strawberry and why don't I get a fun nickname?

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