The Syndicate

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:27 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:26 pm You guys lynched Spiny's slot AND Vanity.

Da actual fuq.

Who pioneered those lynches? They're scum.
Nutella and Juliets

I did push the Vanity lynch as well i see how they were acting coming from scum was alittle doughtful in the last 5mins but knew that i would most likely come back to scum reading him later in

Everyone's back together this is nice.
can everyone declare their lynches yesterday and night kills that happen as well as the scummiest person from each grouping.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:34 pm I just noticed @Trustworthy Liberal hasn't voted yet. Where are you Trusty, time to vote -

I've been running around also didn't notice my vote wasn't down thanks for the ping
[VOTE: Vanity] aubergine

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:06 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:56 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:54 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:48 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:26 pm Also, hiiii Mendel. <3
Thank you for the warm welcome!
This is my only Syndicate account, so technically it is not an alt. JJJ knew all along, and so did nutella. I've become the Elephant because I felt a bit of an imposter for not actually advancing in the championship, because I wanted to conceal my presence from some participants (not here now), and because I wanted to try out a more considered and less emotional and aggressive posting style. I'd prefer to keep the style, though I can drop it if that helps resolve me. I guess it's good that this isn't an anon game, eh?
Oh man, I'm so glad this isn't an anon game. I'm always terrible at those, haha. And I understand! I've considered making a secret alt account for similar reasons. Unfortunately, I think my personality would inevitably bleed into my posts regardless, so I always thought it would be a futile effort for me, lol. Also, you're not an imposter! D:<
You would be surprise i played one on MU recently and thought the same thing but wasn't found (funnily enough was killed there by town as town for a play i would of usually gotten away with)
I recently played an Anon Turbo game on MU, and Evenstar happened to be playing, too... she guessed me correctly by D2, lol.

i played the anno mash and michelle shot me

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:56 pm Ok, I see your concern @nutella about TLib being that guy in the poe from GH's article but from my own observation and the discussion that just took place I feel stronger about vanity.

Hyena is right, we need to resolve him today because we are just pushing the food around the plate instead of taking a bite. I share the concerns about vanity seeming like he's just reading the posts that are more current in here when he comes on line instead of studying the posts he missed and trying to solve the game. I understand he isn't enjoying himself and doesn't want to try but that's just not a good enough excuse. So I am going to vote him now -

[VOTE: vanity] aubergine

Also, Hyena I think mentioned Long Con and how odd it is that when he's mentioned with another player it's the other player that gets the vote. I also find that odd.

That last part is odd and i personally missed it completely

still think vanity is a better vote for today but does make me wanna talk another look at Long Con and his interactions with people.

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:54 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:48 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:26 pm Also, hiiii Mendel. <3
Thank you for the warm welcome!
This is my only Syndicate account, so technically it is not an alt. JJJ knew all along, and so did nutella. I've become the Elephant because I felt a bit of an imposter for not actually advancing in the championship, because I wanted to conceal my presence from some participants (not here now), and because I wanted to try out a more considered and less emotional and aggressive posting style. I'd prefer to keep the style, though I can drop it if that helps resolve me. I guess it's good that this isn't an anon game, eh?
Oh man, I'm so glad this isn't an anon game. I'm always terrible at those, haha. And I understand! I've considered making a secret alt account for similar reasons. Unfortunately, I think my personality would inevitably bleed into my posts regardless, so I always thought it would be a futile effort for me, lol. Also, you're not an imposter! D:<

You would be surprise i played one on MU recently and thought the same thing but wasn't found (funnily enough was killed there by town as town for a play i would of usually gotten away with)

hey everything seems fixed and working for me was able to view the thread but postings wasn't going but here now.

So let me ask do people buy vanity's defense? personally i don't.

Elephant you were talking about not trusting the Vig anymore based on not shooting Vanity do you think that if Vanity flips wolf this is ever more likely?

Nutella you seem to be throwing your vote around alot jumping onto alot of different wagons as they form any comment on that?

Vanity if you are town who other then me would you suspect as the wolf in the thread on the originally people?

If anyone has questions for me ask please i want/need to prove my towniness to you all.

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:57 am
Elephant wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:47 am Hello, Trustworthy Liberal!

I have read your posts, and I like them. I have some questions for you.

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:53 pm
Benson wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:53 pm we get more info from lynching TLib than Faraday.
If you lynch me tommorow so be it but one extra days makes a huge difference for me
1) You have reached phase 4, and you are still alive! How do you feel about that?

Scaryed, surprised, happy, excited. Ussally dead in forum games except for one Mash that I remember as well as a game I subbed into.

2) I think that your current scum reads are vanity and, depending on vanity's alignment, Creature or Elephant (myself). Is that correct?

That is correct.

3) The following players have been here since the beginning: Hyena, Juliets, Long Con, nutella. Do you trust them?

I trust them as much as u can throw them in the order

Juliets>Nutella>Hyena>Long Con

But at the moment that all are towny

4) How well does Nanook know you?

We played Game 8, I was town him mafia and he helped get me lynched while I was out for dinner. So not a whole lot I suppose.

5) How long have you survived as mafia in a forum game? How long do you normally survive as mafia in your home community?

I have been mafia twice in forum games and each went as follows.
-Lynched day One
-Subbed into it Day 4 and Lynched Day 6 as the final wolf due to who I subbed into's actions.

On my Homesite we play games that last a few hours, there I am feared for my counterclaims mainly wining a many games but lost that power here sadly.
There's game on YouTube that or could link a scum game of mine if wanted it's all over Voice.

6) Will you be alive until the endgame (LYLO), or will you be lynched before then?

I have no idea but if I stay in the middle ground of not top town but not being lynched I might be. I have been on there LYLO's before and had the right answer each time but been the lynched in two of them so I don't know what to think. (Those three times were all as town)

7) Have you ever played in an endgame? How did you feel about it?

Stressed. I have spent hours on end games making teams and possibilitys ussaly finding a scum in them.
(3 times as said before)

8) You have written that I am difficult to read. Do you have any questions for me?

What's your Alignment.

More seriously what's your reads what do you think of mechanics from other threads opinions on what we've been told about the other sides.

What do you think the neutral is doing do you think their death combines us back cause am starting to like my theory of that more with hearing a 5 group.

I asked many questions, because there is much to learn about you; I apologize if these are too many!
Thank you in advance,
The Elephant
Answered them all hope that helps alittle

Fixed with adding anwsers in a different color

Elephant wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:47 am Hello, Trustworthy Liberal!

I have read your posts, and I like them. I have some questions for you.

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:53 pm
Benson wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:53 pm we get more info from lynching TLib than Faraday.
If you lynch me tommorow so be it but one extra days makes a huge difference for me
1) You have reached phase 4, and you are still alive! How do you feel about that?

Scaryed, surprised, happy, excited. Ussally dead in forum games except for one Mash that I remember as well as a game I subbed into.

2) I think that your current scum reads are vanity and, depending on vanity's alignment, Creature or Elephant (myself). Is that correct?

That is correct.

3) The following players have been here since the beginning: Hyena, Juliets, Long Con, nutella. Do you trust them?

I trust them as much as u can throw them in the order

Juliets>Nutella>Hyena>Long Con

But at the moment that all are towny

4) How well does Nanook know you?

We played Game 8, I was town him mafia and he helped get me lynched while I was out for dinner. So not a whole lot I suppose.

5) How long have you survived as mafia in a forum game? How long do you normally survive as mafia in your home community?

I have been mafia twice in forum games and each went as follows.
-Lynched day One
-Subbed into it Day 4 and Lynched Day 6 as the final wolf due to who I subbed into's actions.

On my Homesite we play games that last a few hours, there I am feared for my counterclaims mainly wining a many games but lost that power here sadly.
There's game on YouTube that or could link a scum game of mine if wanted it's all over Voice.

6) Will you be alive until the endgame (LYLO), or will you be lynched before then?

I have no idea but if I stay in the middle ground of not top town but not being lynched I might be. I have been on there LYLO's before and had the right answer each time but been the lynched in two of them so I don't know what to think. (Those three times were all as town)

7) Have you ever played in an endgame? How did you feel about it?

Stressed. I have spent hours on end games making teams and possibilitys ussaly finding a scum in them.
(3 times as said before)

8) You have written that I am difficult to read. Do you have any questions for me?

What's your Alignment.

More seriously what's your reads what do you think of mechanics from other threads opinions on what we've been told about the other sides.

What do you think the neutral is doing do you think their death combines us back cause am starting to like my theory of that more with hearing a 5 group.

I asked many questions, because there is much to learn about you; I apologize if these are too many!
Thank you in advance,
The Elephant

Answered them all hope that helps alittle

Hey stating I just read up also a split to 5 seems interesting Also I you know I Lady was a night kill or another Lynch that would be useful.

Lady you are from another room/group/rules set I wouldnlike your feedback on what happened over there.

Also only one night kill is interesting it's possible that Nanook blocked the vig cause I really dought that the vig would have attacked him. Also I am more convinced that its a town vig in our group because of how few kills have happened around of people coming here unless they are either hoilstering/roleblocked/Victim not revealed.

Also that Ty4on Lynch truly did sucked and we had so much to lose thankfully doesn't seem Quin saw his flip on the other side but if they had is the problum. Also Vanity not being interested I helping at all was another reason they should have died or been bugged last night.

Also internet's a little shaky right now someone coming in tommorow to check it out will be trying to read back but still thinking vanity mainly

Also didn't elephant read I keep having trouble reeding him and I I my PoE.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:58 pm [VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Elephant is safe so let’s do this.

Come join me fellow townies

Am not following this

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:57 pm Juliets is in the towncore, no questions

If elephant is she is too

easy take me and elephant out for now untill we resolve us

Ty4on wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:57 pm I'm sheeping a sheep, but...

Benson wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:56 pm I can't believe we're letting Tlib getting away with slanking all day. HE DID NOTHING but watch.

i did stuff today and way more then you did today

vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:54 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:53 pm
vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:52 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:51 pm
vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:51 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:49 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:47 pm idk why players are so closed to possible alternatives
Current thoughts
Elephant could be Wolf but i see him having less then vanity

YOU creature but that is based of Vanitys flip

of and Ty4on but we are safer waiting a night inhope of confirmation if there is any from the other side
okay you're just a wolf lol

wanting to lynch me because it gives information on creature is horrible. just find me as town.
thats not the reason i made a case earlier yesterday i looked through everything i am saying that your flip will on top of that help sort creature
if i flip v, what does that mean for creature's alignment?
Gives a higher likely hood of him being a village and reverse if your wolf
why does me flipping v make creature a v? just because he thinks i'm a villager? i don't know your exact reasoning but don't know about that chief.

I like his defense on you alot more even if useing D1 wagons to do it if you flip V but if your w i see that as an attempt to save an ally this is even more likely if you flipped as a strong role like janitor or something

vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:52 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:51 pm
vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:51 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:49 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:47 pm idk why players are so closed to possible alternatives
Current thoughts
Elephant could be Wolf but i see him having less then vanity

YOU creature but that is based of Vanitys flip

of and Ty4on but we are safer waiting a night inhope of confirmation if there is any from the other side
okay you're just a wolf lol

wanting to lynch me because it gives information on creature is horrible. just find me as town.
thats not the reason i made a case earlier yesterday i looked through everything i am saying that your flip will on top of that help sort creature
if i flip v, what does that mean for creature's alignment?

Gives a higher likely hood of him being a village and reverse if your wolf

vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:51 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:49 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:47 pm idk why players are so closed to possible alternatives
Current thoughts
Elephant could be Wolf but i see him having less then vanity

YOU creature but that is based of Vanitys flip

of and Ty4on but we are safer waiting a night inhope of confirmation if there is any from the other side
okay you're just a wolf lol

wanting to lynch me because it gives information on creature is horrible. just find me as town.

thats not the reason i made a case earlier yesterday i looked through everything i am saying that your flip will on top of that help sort creature

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:47 pm idk why players are so closed to possible alternatives

Current thoughts
Elephant could be Wolf but i see him having less then vanity

YOU creature but that is based of Vanitys flip

of and Ty4on but we are safer waiting a night inhope of confirmation if there is any from the other side

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:42 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:41 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:40 pm Unfortunately town does that too sometimes so I guess let’s stick with vanity or ty4
Reason i like killing vanity first is we might get info if another group shows up here from the other side
Info about what?

Their sides reads on him more info on the why from someone that was alive at the time since Nanook was dead and well Ty4on if scum isn't gonna give us that info

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:40 pm Unfortunately town does that too sometimes so I guess let’s stick with vanity or ty4

Reason i like killing vanity first is we might get info if another group shows up here from the other side

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:38 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:37 pm Okay vanity's Return gives me mixed feelings and i think am still okay with them being voted today but what i did notice was Creature going and taking multiple D1 reads list off dead people as well as people not here in an attempt to save vanity from his wagon and move it to another one and wouldn't mind looking there tomorrow more.
Okay, I admit I'm making a ton of effort to save my buddy here to the point of doing all crazy things because he's none other than my beloved janitor

Well am just saying if vanity is mafia i am going to be looking into 100% next if he's town still looking into you but looks atleast alittle better for you as you wouldn't have had to push so hard to save him

Okay vanity's Return gives me mixed feelings and i think am still okay with them being voted today but what i did notice was Creature going and taking multiple D1 reads list off dead people as well as people not here in an attempt to save vanity from his wagon and move it to another one and wouldn't mind looking there tomorrow more.

Hey am back see vanity posted here let me go back and read him

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:36 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:51 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:41 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:28 pm Here's how I see it, juliets: people start to vote vanity, then you made a couple of posts that broadcast a likely vanity vote. You said you were going to "eat and read through vanity again" which sounds good, but you don't give any analysis beyond asking Ty4on about vanity's emotional meta. Ty4on posted a couple of times before your next post and yet you didn't mention it again or @ - mention him or anything. Instead you just hop on the vanity train and point at me.
You're correct I did not post an analysis of vanity, I was tired and it didn't seem necessary. I read through him, noticed there was a lot of emotion in his posts and asked Ty4on the question. I pointed at you because I have been uneasy about you. I have tried to collect some thoughts/questions this morning and this afternoon which I will post in a minute. Maybe you are town and I am just paranoid about you.
Your earlier posts today were showing a growing scum-read on Ty4on, and very few other strong stances on anyone's alignment. You engage Elephant about vanity but you don't really give your own opinion on them very strongly, just question-prompts. Did you decide to start focussing on vanity because of the growing number of vanity voters? Why do you suspect vanity more than Ty4on?
Oh you were right LC I didn't see this or several other posts on this page.

I can't remember exactly when I decided I needed to focus on vanity but the votes that persuaded me were hyena's and Nanook's, especially when Nanook moved. At some point in this day phase I had reviewed nova's posts and decided some seemed scummy but on the whole I wasn't overwhelmed with scumminess as I remember being in the moments that he was posting. I'm pretty sure I posted in the thread what my feeling was about his posts. So, I decided to give Ty4on a chance today and see what he had to say. I'm not sure that was the right decision at this point because Ty4on hasn't jumped into discussion as much as I hoped he would. Plus part of me wants to give that other thread the info of who he is hoping that would be useful. He would probably be my alternate vote if vanity came into the thread and gave good responses for the suspicion on him.

I see this its makes sense if he comes back with good responses it has to be sooner rather then later as well as ty4on hasn't done much at all your right.

Also i looked at the votes on Vanity the people voting that i trust pretty well are you me and Nanook

Should read Long con and will in the morning

And null on Elephant

so if a scums on that it should be between them 90% of the time

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:00 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:58 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:54 am Is the vanity wagon making anyone else (hyena) irrationally nervous or is that just me?
Considering that half the players in this group are on the wagon now and that it felt like it grew pretty quickly after Elephant joined it, yes, I am paranoid.

But I also think about D1 in our qualifiers where you predicted our partner's wagon would die down after you and others piled voted onto their wagon. So, while I don't know what to make of it, I'm hesitant to change things up so soon.
Yeah, I have that feeling that vanity is either scum or has scum on their vote. Maybe both but definitely one.

Okay good question Vanity flips town who's the most likely scum on his wagon right now

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:58 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:54 am Is the vanity wagon making anyone else (hyena) irrationally nervous or is that just me?
Considering that half the players in this group are on the wagon now and that it felt like it grew pretty quickly after Elephant joined it, yes, I am paranoid.

But I also think about D1 in our qualifiers where you predicted our partner's wagon would die down after you and others piled voted onto their wagon. So, while I don't know what to make of it, I'm hesitant to change things up so soon.

I think we let it sit over night for his defense but don't know where I would move right now honestly

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:57 am
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:54 am
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:52 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:51 am
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:48 am Also while your here Nanook if you could see the other side what is/was your real on Nova/Ty4on
I didn’t really have a read on them before today, I hadn’t read them really. I’d say ty4on is maybe slightly townie but he’s in a tough position to evaluate tbh

Accidentally insa posted by was gonna say
That's not bad to hear I get slight town from them but the other side decided they were evil want to hear more from the next gonna call it drop in
Well, it’s hard to say how true that is—we couldn’t declare votes on the other side or tell other people to vote for a specific person, so nova being the kill doesn’t inherently mean he was found the most scummiest. IIRC Epi and 112 and to a lesser extent radishes and spirityo and Lexi were the most popular scumreads, with nova slotted in thay second tier.

But who knows how votes actually went, it’s really hard to reach too many conclusions on them.

Honestly forgot they had to put three scums on bit targets happy am not there for that alone really.

Will say if Epi is here tommorow would Lynch them I think i said this earlier but I agree with them being scum read. Don't know why 112 I since they were the D1 counter wagon unless more info is there

Also gonna say look at game 8 representing activity Tonight

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:54 am Is the vanity wagon making anyone else (hyena) irrationally nervous or is that just me?

Honestly extremely I scum read him but there's no resitance which means he is other alone extremely expendable mafia or just afk town.

What's your real on him individualy

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:52 am Oh my god, I actually can't count. ;-; There are 10 players here, not 11.

Don't worry i also thought 11 for some reason

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:52 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:51 am
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:48 am Also while your here Nanook if you could see the other side what is/was your real on Nova/Ty4on
I didn’t really have a read on them before today, I hadn’t read them really. I’d say ty4on is maybe slightly townie but he’s in a tough position to evaluate tbh

Accidentally insa posted by was gonna say
That's not bad to hear I get slight town from them but the other side decided they were evil want to hear more from the next gonna call it drop in

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:51 am
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:48 am Also while your here Nanook if you could see the other side what is/was your real on Nova/Ty4on
I didn’t really have a read on them before today, I hadn’t read them really. I’d say ty4on is maybe slightly townie but he’s in a tough position to evaluate tbh

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:48 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:45 am
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:41 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:17 pm
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I was looking back at this personally if all actions have a cost I would assume they have a limitied number of uses I think we need to vote upon saving shots for the vig.

This is also backed up b my the claim from the other side of actions costing 1 instead of 2
Hmmm... this is a good point.
No it isn’t. For one I’m not convinced there’s a town sided vig. For another, can we even talk about roles? For a third, vigs are on average town-negative, we shouldn’t be trying to help them take more shots.

We aren't allowed to role claim but could be usefull to talk about still not claims but what we think and what thr uses might be could be a mafia vig or even a neutral all we know but I assume it would be at least one set of kills I fron town if soenone dies on the other side and two over here otherwise this is very anti town in my opinion

Also while your here Nanook if you could see the other side what is/was your real on Nova/Ty4on

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:47 am I’m happy with that start. Unfortunately the rest of my TRs are on the other side.

Who else can we add? Should be at least 2 more if we wanna be able to throw some weight around.

Did any of your reads change from the other side do you still have access to their d2?

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:44 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:36 pm I'm not feeling great about how little actual analysis is going on in this here phase but also I am tired and sympathize
Let's try to form an actual towncore. Like, I've got town read/leans, but, like, I don't feel there's a solid core anywhere in this group. Everything feels too fluid right now. Forming a towncore might put pressure on those outside the towncore to start doing some analysis.

How about [you, me, Nanook] to start with? There are 11 players in this group, so we'd need six people in total for us to hold the majority.

This is the first and maybe last time I'll say this but what about me I feel I've been doing more analysis and have been forward with my thinking. If you all still don't trust me it's fine but feel for once there's a reason for me to be I it.

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This is also backed up b my the claim from the other side of actions costing 1 instead of 2

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:34 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:40 pm Just to be devil's advocate... what are the benefits/drawbacks of a No-Lynch today?
The benefits are
1. we don't have to worry about getting things wrong and losing another town.
2. we don't have to worry about accidentally mislynching the Vig if that's who's making these towny shots.
3. mislynching town who's not Vig also narrows down who the Vig could be, so, we'd also give the Vig more cover.
3. assuming that scum has to kill and send a town from the other group here, town will still guaranteed be in majority tomorrow.

The drawbacks are
1. No-Lynch vs <Player A> doesn't give us any info on Player A's alignment if no-lynch passes.
2. we also, of course, don't gain the info we might gain from having competing wagons between two players.
3. no one gets resolved.
4. the other group loses out on gaining info from a lynch, too.

Persoanly believe we Always Lynch here.

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:07 pm I would like to hear some thoughts from @Creature and @@Ty4on.

You know after noticing this both seem to be hovering and not really pushing other cases makes me worry they might be floating scum but i can't be sure with them not even being here guess i can't really complain that much i've been pretty inactive as well but i am trying to make that extra effort ussaly not even this active.

(also this is post number 100 going into those triple digits lets go have a gif for that)

Another Monica Gif

Spoiler: show

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:44 pm This thread is giving me the heebie jeebies - no one is talking. Generally I see that when the wolves are in control. I'm about to eat and otherwise reading through vanity again.

i have been quite active here was hoping to see others around then got invited to a blood on the clocktower game just finshed that was fun

will start looking at i think Nova honestly they were lynched on the other side which is curious meaning the other side distrusted them to a degree but still confident in vanity dieing even more so if he doesn't come back and say stuff i honestly need to see a defense of some kind from him

[VOTE: vanity] aubergine Also forgot to mention that i voted him

i messed up that first spoiler but its not that long so its fine making a snack and will be back

So by this then your not town vanity?

vanity. wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:59 pm every single time i've been a villager i've been townread in a decent rate. not an exception here.

I did find his more advance readings now to the Giant post not gonna quote cause i won't be able to find my way through this but alot of it seems angreyier then the rest of Vanity could be coming from a wolf that belifs they are on the chopping block or just an upset villager hard to tell. (Post #4103)

If this is true Vanity when you have time get you butt in here and look for a wolf at the very least you thoughts and reads can be used after your flip as town again if your a wolf go ahead and ignore this.

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This is a read alteast provided by Benson that vanity anwsered so far one is proven wrong and i know personally another is being the one on me again would like to hear if this has changed the reads on Elephant and Long con (i suppose also on myself).

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Looking back today for a post i didn't see this before but immediately Vanity mentions the Benson wanted me dead and won't surprised if he tries to push be based of Benson flip As i am easy mislynch bait alot of the time i wouldn't be surprised at them actually killing benson over say nutella for that exact reason thankfully i am here and ready to do work.

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nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:26 pm interesting TL, nice to see your thought process on those even if I don't really agree atm

Even if you don't agree hopefully atleast my thought process can help you come to your own conclusions

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:28 pm Just a quick thought here @Trustworthy Liberal, I don't know that someone who is scum would blatantly say "don't want my partner lynched".

The Bucs are on now (I live in Tampa for those of you who don't know) so I'll be afk for a while.

Fair on some points but at the same time if vanity was looking for a quick vote post that makes sense to say either way Epi isn't on our side of all this so until they do drop by we should be mainly focusing in the here and now.

This gets it's own post cause of length

Vanity's Defense being that each point individually isn't scummy doesn't sit right with me missed this reply yesterday but yes most of the time people arn't caught on a single post of slip its over time which this is Don't agree with all facts against him BUT vanity's defense of this makes it honestly worst in my opinion.

Vanity if you read this i want you to defend yourself cause if your town i feel this push on you if from a wolf making elephant Vanity V/W in quite a few worlds now so the town needs to defend themselves and the wolf needs to be found would like it right the first time rather then waiting.

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vanity. wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:37 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:34 am I changed to the computer to do a proper multi-quote ISO. The takeaway:
- Vanity tunnels Juliets from the star, never re-evaluates
- vanity is quite self-conscious on how towny he's being
- vanity thinks Benson subtly shading him as a wolf, @Benson denies
- vanity stalls any initiative to introduce structured conversation
- vanity votes players pushing her: he votes me for suggesting that he could have engaged Jack instead of observing that no group talk was happeneing, and votes Michelle for pushing him over that unmotivated vote
- vanity's reads have very obvious strong player bias
- vanity attempts an in-thread ISO of Michelle
- vanity announces intent to "kill Drago" at -1:45, his reason on the actual vote is "don't want epi lynched"
- vanity establishes a D2 pool of suspects along his old, biased reads
- vanity skips a day
- Subjectively, vanity does not feel like the town!vanity from wildcards 1.

Actually, that's more than I remembered seeing. I'm less happy with this ISo than I am with Trustworthy Liberal's, because I can understand Trusrtworthy Liberal, but I do not understand this.

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vanity. wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:45 pm juliet's play pings me as wolfy so far. thoughts?
vanity.'s second post starts a tunnel.

vanity. wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:34 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:33 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:32 pm
vanity. wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:15 pm i'm probably going to get questions about my nanook read so i'll just explain that now

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:51 pm Hey guys, I was busy the entirety of yesterday and forgot to check in here briefly, but all you missed was me saying hello and kill Lexi forthwith.

That is all, I’m going back to driving now. Someone wake me up at like D6
nanook instantly pushing lld in this post reads to me as "i've been burned by this person bad and i want to lynch them out of paranoia" to me. it's like a classic v thought process in my opinion. now, he has a good wolf game and i wouldn't take this to the grave, but i think it was enough to give him a townread, especially since no one else v read him.
I'm calling Vanity lock town for this post and, like, 5-10 of the posts he made before this one.
Vanity is the towniest town in this game, and I hope we're all in agreement on this.
...am i? am i just this easy of a read?

i feel like nothing i've done is outside of my wolfrange but... k.

vanity. wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:37 pm
Benson wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:23 pm Anyone else think it's a bit wolfy to have a BIG reads list this early? Is that standard for villa-Eva?

Benson wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:34 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:29 pm don't d1 Juliets, she's Towny in my book and she may get spewed town by an actual scumflip down the line
This is where I am. I think she has the type of playstyle that the wolves will target for a mislynch.
this is like shading me without wanting to actually confront me

i know you're think i'm wolfy, if you think i'm a wolf then just say it. the fact that you're not engaging me at all is worrisome.

vanity. wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:39 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:36 pm
vanity. wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:34 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:33 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:32 pm

I'm calling Vanity lock town for this post and, like, 5-10 of the posts he made before this one.
Vanity is the towniest town in this game, and I hope we're all in agreement on this.
...am i? am i just this easy of a read?

i feel like nothing i've done is outside of my wolfrange but... k.
To be fair, I've not seen your scum game. But I read you in G7 (you died as I subbed in) and watched you in in WC1, and you play this game similarly to how I do. Everything I see from you so far has been so pure, IMO.

How would you describe your wolf range, then?
my wolf range, huh...

while i haven't wolfed on forum before, and this game is another non-turbo village game from me, because randing wolf is impossible for some reason, but i'm the powerwolf type. a lot of people that know me from dm wouldn't give v reads on me this early, because they know i can give compelling thoughts on the game as a wolf.

i'd post around the same as either alignment. if i'm in the thread, i'm posting. that's all there really is to it. if you think i'm pure, cool. i don't think you're a wolf at the moment, so i'm comfortable with this.

vanity. wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:41 pm
Benson wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:38 pm I'm not ok with vanity being consensus villager at this point. He's clean, yes; but almost too clean, if you know what I mean.
Call it gut-feels, but I'm giving him a soft FoS.
what are you talking about? you've literally made posts that soft reference me in talking about wolfy behavior. are you not realizing this or what?

Benson wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:49 pm
vanity. wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:41 pm
Benson wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:38 pm I'm not ok with vanity being consensus villager at this point. He's clean, yes; but almost too clean, if you know what I mean.
Call it gut-feels, but I'm giving him a soft FoS.
what are you talking about? you've literally made posts that soft reference me in talking about wolfy behavior. are you not realizing this or what?
Lol I do realize that but those soft references didn't have you in mind. I was speaking fairly generally. By calling you clean I meant that your posts in a vacuum just look ostensibly villagery.

vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:07 pm i don't particularly hate or love any of these wagons

this sucks....

vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:53 pm sprityo's being towny and i remember thinking they were towny before hand despite the post about him worrying about being lynched

ughhhh

what do

vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:55 pm also this whole thing regardung the charts is like useless

i don't want to shut it down but i really think it's not getting us anywhere

nutella and eva are still both towny to me

vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:30 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:28 pm
vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:26 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:26 pmHowdy, all. o/
howdy, glad to see you here. how's it going?
Doing pretty good! You?
doin okay

kinda chilling, i'm townreading a lot of people and it's bad for me i think. plus i'm not really devoting that much time to this game anyways.

i want to vote off sprityo. considering a juliets vote or maybe tonystarkprime or something

trying to sort it out

vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:34 pm [VOTE: 112] aubergine

let's pressure here actually

vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:19 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:16 pm
vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:08 pm gonna try parsing hyena vs evenstar real quick

the fact that they're not finding each other is raising red flags but independently speaking i think both are very villagery
Oh this is an interesting point.

Idk if I trust you completely though. But I mostly agree with your do not lynch list at least.
that's fine, i haven't been overtly obvious villager with my spam-y posting at tbe moment but i'm trying when i can

you might've picked up on it, but if hyena and evenstar perceive their town games to be similar, and they're not finding each other, it's making me think something is there. though i understand any given game a disconnect can happen between 2 villas, as i've seen it before elsewhere

eva is definitely more in her chaos-posty archetype too but i don't want to touch her at all
"i haven't been overtly obvious villager with my spam-y posting at tbe moment but i'm trying when i can"

vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:05 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:03 pm
vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:00 pm like eva, i understand that you find pawn to be right very often but...

why does pawn have to be right in this instance? and more importantly, why is pawn towny to you? and if pawn is a wolf, what does that mean for iaafr and mac's alignments?
Why are you pushing for associative reads? Isn't this too early into the game?
i'm not the one pushing for associative reads? eva is saying that pawn saying mac and iaafr are town, makes mac and iaafr town. i'm not the one that is making that association, eva is making it. hence why i'm questioning her.
I find this notable, because Evenstar had stated that Pawn would usually be correct in his reads independent of his alignment. MIchelle's question was well justified.

vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:54 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:53 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:51 pm I still proposed that one where everybody mentions their top townread to discuss their takes on their top townreads reads

but idk doesn't feel right for this d1
My top townread is Vanity, and I liked the list of people he thought were villagers.
for what its worth he wasn't actually proposing us to do it now but alright
vanity actively stalls on iaafr's initiative.

vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:07 pm reminder that we have like... 20 hours before eod

idk if there's gonna be ample time to set this thing up lol
vanity stalls on MacDougall's initiative.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:07 pm
vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:07 pm reminder that we have like... 20 hours before eod

idk if there's gonna be ample time to set this thing up lol
It's done, setup, just go for it.

vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:08 pm whatever i guess 10-11 am and 1-2 pm eastern work best for me
vanity interprets Mac's initiative to require specific times, and then sets a schedule that is hard to match. By contrast, Juliets just set out to working and addressing her group as soon as she was online, because a forum is an asynchronous medium that does not require scheduling a date to get engaged. In comparison, vanity is stalling, and Juliets is not.

vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:13 pm group 1 is like probably infested with wolves btw lol
vanity is not using teh groups for their intended purpose, and instead launches into a very different discussion that looks like it is engaging with teh groups, but is really just about wolf reads, but not even

vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:41 pm guess i can entertain your ideas mac, not doing color coding tho

dark green:
hyena
creature
nutella
jack
mr
iaafr

light green:
sprityo
mac
epig
lld
spiny
benson

yellow:
nanook
texas
evenstar
pawn
elephant
rej
long con
drago
dom

orange:
dfaraday
tonystarkprime
juliets
112
quin
michelle
tlib

red:
nova
I have added color coding: orange and blue for playing in the Championship wildcards/finale or not, bold for everyone here.
vanity suggested the bottom 5 players for today's "box".

vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:49 pm be back tomorrow at the times i said i'd be here (10 am - 11 am and 1 pm - 2 pm eastern and probably eod as well)

vanity. wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:55 am oh shoot i forgot about the group thing uhhhh'

woops

vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:29 pm if tlib tonystark juliets and 112 contain no wolves this game is gonna be hard as hell for me

vanity. wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:17 pm apparently the group discussions aren't happening and i have absolutely nothing to say at the moment so i guess i'll just see you guys in like 3 hours for eod

vanity. wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:51 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:49 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:38 pm You could've talked to Jack?
@vanity.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/cwF-o4haZ ... =34&end=49
sure? guess i'm not opposed. let's talk about, idk, the weather?

vanity. wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:54 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:52 pm
vanity. wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:51 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:49 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:38 pm You could've talked to Jack?
https://www.youtube.com/embed/cwF-o4haZ ... =34&end=49
sure? guess i'm not opposed. let's talk about, idk, the weather?
I guess I got excited enough cutting that clip that I forgot you said you had nothing to say.
i'm not opposed to talking but the game just doesn't interest me at the moment

think i'm also reminded why i prefer shorter games over longer ones

vanity. wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:04 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:02 pm
vanity. wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:59 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:54 pm
vanity. wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:45 pm honestly since i'm not really that invested in the game and most people think i'm a villa i'm just gonna lay low and sheep others

[VOTE: elephant] aubergine
they are in a wrong way thinking you are villager?
Sounds like an excuse to park a vote in a new wagon
what? i legit don't know what you're trying to say

if people think i'm a villager, then i don't want to get in the way of solving. i'm not going to be a cook this game. that's just how i'm going to play.
i don't want you to be a cook i want you to be villagery if you are villager. Sheeping others is not always villagery.
i've already been villagery

get off my case

vanity. wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:13 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:12 pm kill Michelle she's not Towny
yeah i'd expect to have a townread on michelle at this point if she were a villa

[VOTE: michelle] aubergine

vanity. wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:17 pm okay whatever screw it

just gonna iso michelle and give thoughts

apparently you want me to be a cook. my playstyle normally is to be unapologetically town. so i'll be a cook
vanity then launches into a piecewise ISO in the thread that I've only ever seen done once, by a wolf.

vanity. wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:17 pm i could kill drago here i think
112 was a scum lean for her in the reads, and Drago was not.

vanity. wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:42 pm [VOTE: drago] aubergine

don't want epi lynched
vanity does not mention his earlier intent to vote Dragomir.

vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:13 pm i'm not going to be here for much longer but i'm willing to do a small amount of solving while i'm present

vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:17 pm tlib
elephant
juliets
long con
dfaraday

this is the list of suspects i'm working within today. get crackalackin.

vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:20 pm i'll be around for 5 minutes. the wolf lynch + this spicy mechanic has revitalized my interest in the game

vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:26 pm i'm peacing in 5 minutes

i have work tomorrow but i should be active after around 2 pm eastern

this is actually terrible.

i have honestly not read all of this, but what i have read, none of this is particularly wolfy in a vacuum. if it is, how?

it's like you have to push me and are struggling to come up with compelling reasons. c'mon dude.

(Again if spoilers break am sorry)

Vanity Reads
Like most of his D0 but most of that isn't really alignment indicative so

D1
SO these are 6 minutes apart and he states his never lynch then mentions wanting to pick them apart which at the time is pretty close to EoD and I see this as a waste of time at that specific time but doesn't sound like it in the moment leaving a free disappearing act. He doesn't leave immediatly but lowers time spent in thread after this.

Spoiler: show

Next when we suggested the groups and Mac split us all up one of the first things vanity wanted to say about it was about a bad group 1 and later that group 4 is by the townest contradicting Tony (Confirmed town) conveniently he is group 4.

Spoiler: show

vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:13 pm group 1 is like probably infested with wolves btw lol

vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:17 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:16 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:14 pm
vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:13 pm group 1 is like probably infested with wolves btw lol
I think we should first rank groups from scummiest to towniest
4,1,5,3,2??
4 is your wolfiest group???

i think 4 is the towniest group. my only big question mark there is pawn, otherwise decent chance all of those are villas

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:05 pm Welcome to The Great Team Building Exercise of Inception Mafia

So firstly I'm not gonna force anyone to do this but it sounds like a fun idea so I'm gonna do it and if you like the idea then do it as well.

So, I just put the playerlist through random.org. I have created five random groups of six players. Your goal is to communicate only with the players inside of your group for ONE hour. Given where we're at with timezones I think coordinating it across all the players is probably impossible so make that hour whichever hour that you want. Hell if you want to just spend the rest of the day focused on these five players that's fine. Hell even if you just want to give them a cursory look to have some players to hone in on making reads on you can do that too. Basically it's just going to force people to look directly at a smaller set of players. This should help you read these people, perhaps find some townies to work with, hell maybe you'll make some friends even I don't fucking know.

Here are the lists;

Group 1 -
@Benson
@TonyStarkPrime
@Dragomir
@Quin
@Rej
@Lady LambdaDelta

Group 2 -

@MacDougall
@iaafr
@Dom
@Creature
@Long Con
@Trustworthy Liberal

Group 3 -

@112
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@nutella
@Epignosis
@DFaraday
@novaselinenever

Group 4 -

@Jackofhearts2005
@Spiny Creature
@sprityo
@Pawn Lelouch
@vanity.
@Hyena

Group 5 -

@Elephant
@juliets
@Michelle
@Evenstar
@Master Radishes
@Texas Cloverleaf

Knock yourselves out.

The rest makes me dislike Vanity but this here makes me consider Epi was the other wolf wagon D1 if vanity is wolf or at least is more likely to have been

Spoiler: show

Now gonna finish D2 see if anything is towny there (really hope the spoilers are set up right)

Also since i haven't before i'll drop my flavor thing now cause why not it's all in the gif (Is pokemon not a spoiler).

Spoiler: show

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:47 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:40 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:26 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:05 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:05 pm [VOTE: Elephant] aubergine
[VOTE: Elephant] aubergine
[VOTE: vanity] aubergine
I havn't liked vanity today or yesterday with him even saying that he is just not really trying the game worrys me cause if thats right and another mislynching i don't know how many we have since the numebr of mafia is unknown as well as what exactly the neutral is doing/capably of
Him saying he's not really trying is NAI, I think. Do else haven't you liked about Vanity? Did you ever vote Vanity with Elephant yesterday? If not, why didn't you if you didn't like him?

I did not vote either wasn't confident i could form a great case on a wolf vanity and i didn't vote elephant cause i don't have a great read on them i have tryied to read them twice now and keep going null

With vanity though i am on another tab rereading his ISO don't mind his D0 so far but don't like d1 which makes me feel he is a wolf still gotta reread yesterday and the little d3 all together tough just this and another post then am back to that

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:39 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:37 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:26 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:12 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:10 pm
vanity. wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:09 pm is flavor claiming even legal in this game?
JJJ said in the rules post we can claim character but not role or abilities.
Nice I tottaly missed that does it give us anything to flavor claim?
....what is this

you've like, read your role pm right?

or are you scum with a safe claim like dragomir's that you missed somehow lol
No i thought i was part of Role claiming like we weren't suppose to but after re reading the 1st page info i noticed we could i did read my role PM thank you very much
Ok sorry for the bit of sass lol but I think I was just a little taken aback by your wording there, maybe I misunderstood what you were saying

All good I do that sometimes can be pretty surprising to most

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