The Syndicate

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:30 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:21 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:14 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:11 pm
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Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:00 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:57 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:48 pm
How can you town read him for a meaningless post?
An invite to roleplay is nothing shading or distancing, I see there a normal convo I would never consider AI.
Can you roleplay your character? Like, maybe post an avatar and a few lines of dialogue?
nah i saw the movie ages ago and I forgot almost everything so no RP from me about flavour.
[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
Dragomir was the Forger, an actual character in the movie. He refers to a character to be roleplayed, and that pinged me. You see, I'm not a character, I'm the subconscious aspect of elation. Every town player is the subconscious aspect of something and not a character. This question is a trap, and you just got caught.
respectfully bullsit sir, i am so bad at game mechanics that i didn't fully read the op. not that i can read it with that colour. Ask Juliets when we wolfed together that she had to explain me the mechanics. Your trap is nothing because mafia should have fake claims.
The flavor is in your role card, not in the OP. The OP has a sample vanilla town role card, and yeah, if you didnt read the OP fully, you would have missed it.
My point is that you and Drago think of yourself and your scum buddies as characters, and it's not conscious to you that the other players are not characters, because you don't really care about the town flavor. If you need to fakeclaim, you can look it up.But since this question didn't actually cause you to look the fake claim up, you didn't remember the town players aren't characters.
how on Earth you considered i make a difference between role and character? You know in my language i have exactly the same word "caracter" with a totally different meaning. I try to not let myself fooled by these identical words but words like character are a problem if I don't go to translate and check them.
So you found nothing because I am an idiot illiterate in english. And mafia too by extent.

That don't makes you villager and not makes me scum.

what "subconscious aspect of" means took me a while to understand even after I asked for explanations like I am 5.

I asked you for an avatar picture and lines of dialogue, not just the "character".

Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:21 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:14 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:11 pm
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Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:00 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:57 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:48 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:43 pm

How does the post below factor into the idea that Elephant and Dragomir are teammates?

How can you town read him for a meaningless post?
An invite to roleplay is nothing shading or distancing, I see there a normal convo I would never consider AI.
Can you roleplay your character? Like, maybe post an avatar and a few lines of dialogue?
nah i saw the movie ages ago and I forgot almost everything so no RP from me about flavour.
[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
Dragomir was the Forger, an actual character in the movie. He refers to a character to be roleplayed, and that pinged me. You see, I'm not a character, I'm the subconscious aspect of elation. Every town player is the subconscious aspect of something and not a character. This question is a trap, and you just got caught.
respectfully bullsit sir, i am so bad at game mechanics that i didn't fully read the op. not that i can read it with that colour. Ask Juliets when we wolfed together that she had to explain me the mechanics. Your trap is nothing because mafia should have fake claims.
The flavor is in your role card, not in the OP. The OP has a sample vanilla town role card, and yeah, if you didnt read the OP fully, you would have missed it.
My point is that you and Drago think of yourself and your scum buddies as characters, and it's not conscious to you that the other players are not characters, because you don't really care about the town flavor. If you need to fakeclaim, you can look it up.But since this question didn't actually cause you to look the fake claim up, you didn't remember the town players aren't characters.

Seriously, everyone, am I overthinking this, or is this a scumslip?

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:16 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:13 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:06 pm Btw, I think Elephant is a cute gimmick account now that I know it isn’t his main.
Thank you!
i agree, and that pic this morning with the little elephant at the water made me laugh for real ^^

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Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:14 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:11 pm
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Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:00 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:57 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:48 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:43 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:38 pm @Everyone, Elephant wants me to screw the logic of my reads and this is a scum tactic.

let's lynch scum today, thanks for understanding
How does the post below factor into the idea that Elephant and Dragomir are teammates?

Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:39 pm

Could you please roleplay your character? A paragraph should suffice.

How can you town read him for a meaningless post?
An invite to roleplay is nothing shading or distancing, I see there a normal convo I would never consider AI.
Can you roleplay your character? Like, maybe post an avatar and a few lines of dialogue?
nah i saw the movie ages ago and I forgot almost everything so no RP from me about flavour.
[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
Dragomir was the Forger, an actual character in the movie. He refers to a character to be roleplayed, and that pinged me. You see, I'm not a character, I'm the subconscious aspect of elation. Every town player is the subconscious aspect of something and not a character. This question is a trap, and you just got caught.
respectfully bullsit sir, i am so bad at game mechanics that i didn't fully read the op. not that i can read it with that colour. Ask Juliets when we wolfed together that she had to explain me the mechanics. Your trap is nothing because mafia should have fake claims.

The flavor is in your role card, not in the OP. The OP has a sample vanilla town role card, and yeah, if you didnt read the OP fully, you would have missed it.

My point is that you and Drago think of yourself and your scum buddies as characters, and it's not conscious to you that the other players are not characters, because you don't really care about the town flavor. If you need to fakeclaim, you can look it up.But since this question didn't actually cause you to look the fake claim up, you didn't remember the town players aren't characters.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:06 pm Btw, I think Elephant is a cute gimmick account now that I know it isn’t his main.

Thank you!

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:00 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:57 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:48 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:43 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:38 pm @Everyone, Elephant wants me to screw the logic of my reads and this is a scum tactic.

let's lynch scum today, thanks for understanding
How does the post below factor into the idea that Elephant and Dragomir are teammates?

Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:39 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:08 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:05 pm

So Drago, I guess where I'm left with this is I don't see any game related point in role-playing your character whether you are town, or scum, or 3P since the character doesn't tell us anything about the person's abilities or their role. JJJ suggested role-playing your character in the OP as just something fun to do.

For example, let's say 112 is role playing the character "loneliness" and she later claims she is "loneliness". What does that tell us exactly? Not her alignment, nor her abilities since there is no correlation. So it tells us nothing, the way I see it.

But no one else seems confused by this, just me, so I don't want to belabor the point. I'll think further on it as we go forward.
I've been assuming that whatever character you have would dictate your alignment, like if your character is a good guy, they'd be town right?
Could you please roleplay your character? A paragraph should suffice.

How can you town read him for a meaningless post?
An invite to roleplay is nothing shading or distancing, I see there a normal convo I would never consider AI.
Can you roleplay your character? Like, maybe post an avatar and a few lines of dialogue?
nah i saw the movie ages ago and I forgot almost everything so no RP from me about flavour.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
Dragomir was the Forger, an actual character in the movie. He refers to a character to be roleplayed, and that pinged me. You see, I'm not a character, I'm the subconscious aspect of elation. Every town player is the subconscious aspect of something and not a character. This question is a trap, and you just got caught.

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:58 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:55 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:44 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:41 pm I made succesive attempt to provoke Dom today. No succes. My scumread on him is totally shaking.

I need help here, i need to reread something. brb
I'll take an honest look at Dom later. He's kinda flown under the radar from my perspective.
His D0/D1 is super short. I wish I knew what he did on the days we didn't see him.
Board game days
Dnd
Forum mafia (Just tgis game and ine mash that's done)
Hosting my homesite as I am the most active mod
Getting to know new people on my home site
Drama
Sleep
Eat

That has been my week elephant also cooking atm

I wanted to know what Dom did in the dream levels that we can't see.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:54 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:52 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:39 pm Okay, 100% serious here, I'm probably never lynching TLib this game, and anybody that tries to from this point going forward will be scumclaiming by doing so.
How did you manage to make sense of him?
It's what I was talking about before. Should I explicitly say it?

No, that's fine.

If I had remembered I had asked Dragomir that, and he didn't respond, I might have voted him over 112. But questions people don't answer don't show in their ISO.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:48 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:43 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:38 pm @Everyone, Elephant wants me to screw the logic of my reads and this is a scum tactic.

let's lynch scum today, thanks for understanding
How does the post below factor into the idea that Elephant and Dragomir are teammates?

Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:39 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:08 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:05 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:21 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:04 pm

Ok @juliets since you're confused lemme clear up my suspicion against 112. So my belief of there being fake character claims came from this post. The roleplaying character thing pings me hard for reasons being that there's a manipulative edge to it. I only see one perspective to why someone would do this is the scum perspective. Role-play your character in order to make it more believable if you got to claim it. Get ppl in the mindset that your character is this person thus clouding them from looking too much into the actual claim.

There's no town perspective to it imo. Why should town bother themselves with roleplaying their character? All I can see it is for manipulative purposes to set something up in the future. Unless your role requires the role-play, which I don't think is the case for 112 here.
Thanks Drago I'll think through this while eating lunch.
So Drago, I guess where I'm left with this is I don't see any game related point in role-playing your character whether you are town, or scum, or 3P since the character doesn't tell us anything about the person's abilities or their role. JJJ suggested role-playing your character in the OP as just something fun to do.

For example, let's say 112 is role playing the character "loneliness" and she later claims she is "loneliness". What does that tell us exactly? Not her alignment, nor her abilities since there is no correlation. So it tells us nothing, the way I see it.

But no one else seems confused by this, just me, so I don't want to belabor the point. I'll think further on it as we go forward.
I've been assuming that whatever character you have would dictate your alignment, like if your character is a good guy, they'd be town right?
Could you please roleplay your character? A paragraph should suffice.

How can you town read him for a meaningless post?
An invite to roleplay is nothing shading or distancing, I see there a normal convo I would never consider AI.

Can you roleplay your character? Like, maybe post an avatar and a few lines of dialogue?

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:44 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:41 pm I made succesive attempt to provoke Dom today. No succes. My scumread on him is totally shaking.

I need help here, i need to reread something. brb
I'll take an honest look at Dom later. He's kinda flown under the radar from my perspective.

His D0/D1 is super short. I wish I knew what he did on the days we didn't see him.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:39 pm Okay, 100% serious here, I'm probably never lynching TLib this game, and anybody that tries to from this point going forward will be scumclaiming by doing so.

How did you manage to make sense of him?

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:36 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:26 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:20 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:15 pm
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Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:04 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:01 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:57 pm

I'm not convincing you anyway. You're not baiting me here.
Fine, I'll try to cut down the sass. I do mean it that I respect you, though.

But we're not lynching Dom today just to see how that makes Michelle look. We are far too deep into this game, and the mafia are doing far too well, to be wasting a lynch on that. Vote for Dom if he's a wolf, not because he's an info lynch.
If Michelle is town, Dom is 100% a wolf, pending Michelle's reaction.
uh what why
TMI= too much information.
He knows i am villager and of course if we succeed to lynch scum Elephant today and proove my read, this post means Dom is indeed scum.
Would you commit to saying that your alignment is always opposite Dom's?
Would me flipping town make you reconsider?
no. I disagree. Associative reads are very bad.
I don't think a connection between any of us can be made.

You are scum regardeless, if you flip town I can hung myself.

Dom can be zero, then.
Unvote Dom.
[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine
Will switch to either of TLib , nutella, or Long Con for self-preservation and coffee group POE.

[mention]Evenstar[/mention]
I have just skimmed back through your ISO, and re-found the post where you explained how Epi is POE-clamped. This reasoning rests on Dom's alignment as town, which rests on Dom not being scum with Sprityo or Radishes. How certain are you of this? Michelle asserts he is scum.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:19 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:17 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:16 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:15 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:14 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:09 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:03 pm
I have to give you credit, Eva, you don't go down easily.

Being heavily sussed? No problem, just imply some sinister mechanics that no one can prove or disprove to discredit your opponent.

I mean, it's working so far since no one seems ready to vote you. It's impressive.
If I leave the Nutella wagon right now and join Evenstar's, will you join with me?
I think it's fairly obvious my vote is ending up on her today. I was going to play with some other wagons first, but if you insist.

[VOTE: Evenstar] aubergine
nice bluff I think I'll call it

[VOTE: Evenstar] aubergine
Awesome. <3
by the way Hyena we're up to hydra tomorrow

gonna be so fucking fun
I KNOW!!! I just saw the announcement earlier today! I'm fucking pumped!

Watch out for Chicago Wolf Band!

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:20 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:15 pm
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Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:04 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:01 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:57 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:51 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:48 pm
Dom is an infolynch at this point. If he flips scum, Michelle is absolutely town, unless she refuses to commit -- and if she refuses, I need to re-evaluate her.
I have made a case on Radishes for the F3 lynch.
Lynching in my group is straight POE.
Sorry, hold on. You want to infolynch at this stage ? And you want it to be Dom, because it'll clear Michelle?

I have too much respect for you to think that's town mindset logic.
I'm not convincing you anyway. You're not baiting me here.
Fine, I'll try to cut down the sass. I do mean it that I respect you, though.

But we're not lynching Dom today just to see how that makes Michelle look. We are far too deep into this game, and the mafia are doing far too well, to be wasting a lynch on that. Vote for Dom if he's a wolf, not because he's an info lynch.
If Michelle is town, Dom is 100% a wolf, pending Michelle's reaction.
uh what why
TMI= too much information.
He knows i am villager and of course if we succeed to lynch scum Elephant today and proove my read, this post means Dom is indeed scum.

Would you commit to saying that your alignment is always opposite Dom's?
Would me flipping town make you reconsider?

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:10 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:03 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:08 am From my catch-up, one thing that I think might not be clear is one reason people were looking at TLib as possible scum is because several of us read GH's article Stopping the Juggernaut after we kept mislynching people.

The article is about what to do when from a town perspective the game is going horribly wrong, i.e., how to find the wolves. In it he says "Firstly, we have the player quietly in the POE but isn't really pushed. What makes this archetype so important is that it has a high chance of flipping wolf." (There's more about this but this line sums it up.) This described TLib pretty well. He didn't have much to say most of the time but we could see that he was in the thread, he was generally toward the bottom of our list, and we had not pushed him hard. This wasn't the only reason people were looking at TLib but it was one of the reasons I was looking at him.

I urge @Trustworthy Liberal to get more involved today and give his thoughts if he is town. I would like to be able to town read him like I did at the beginning of day 2 after he voted Drago.
Okay am online now and going to try to play for a bit but you are already wrong in this post. The bolded I completely wrong I've been pushed multiple times and been one of the main counter wagon this game also you bringing the article and using I to push me I retrospect is slightly sus I my opinion.

I've had a bad weekend and every time I was able to play people were fighting and seemingly attacking each other I posts some getting personal which I extremely aganist how i ever want to play and why I kinda just walked away for yesterday sorry just now playing with that kinda attatude.
Trustworthy, sorry to hear about your weekend and I understand you walking away from the game yesterday.

Are you saying that you were pushed and that's the part of the statement that is wrong? I can remember people voting you I just don't remember anyone really pushing it except maybe Benson but then he died that night. If this is not what you meant please let me know.

The thing about TLiberal pushes is that the best push was the case that Long Con posted on D2. It just never got any better than that.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:53 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:48 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:33 pm Elephant 4 [Long Con, iaafr, Michelle, Nutella]
JackofHearts2005 2 [Epignosis, Dom]
Long Con 2 [Macdougall, JackofHearts2005]
Nutella 2 [Lady Lambdadelta, Evenstar]
Evenstar 2 [112, Sprityo]
Epignosis 1 [Pawn Lelouch]
Hyena 1 [Master Radishes]
iaafr 1 [Quin]
Dom 1[Elephant]
Trustworthy Liberal 1 [Hyena]

3 Not Voting: Juliets, ColinisCool, Trustworthy Liberal

17 votes cast and the largest wagon is 4.

What an absolutely atrocious votal. We need to get our shit together.

(I guess it's better than "nova/jack is obvious scum, lol", but not by much.)

@Hyena
@Elephant
@Quin
@Master Radishes
@Pawn Lelouch

All of you, make your strongest case for why the person you are on right now deserves to be in contention. If you don't have a case you're willing to put time in to defend, vote someone else.

@juliets
@ColinIsCool
@Trustworthy Liberal

This may be the most important day phase in the entire game. We need your input. Put a damn vote down already.
Dom is an infolynch at this point. If he flips scum, Michelle is absolutely town, unless she refuses to commit -- and if she refuses, I need to re-evaluate her.
I have made a case on Radishes for the F3 lynch.
Lynching in my group is straight POE.
This is the worst post I've seen from Elephant.

Yes. It's less than what is on m mind.

Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:43 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:36 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:59 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:53 am
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:47 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:43 am By the way, I think the Vig that was in our group is within, like, [TLib, Elephant, and nutella].
Can you explain what's up with the "misread roleclaim" business? The vig might be in that group because nutella talked a LOT about holstering, but I had someone else in mind for that role.
Yeah, I think people kinda thought you were softing cop with a green check on Juliet. That's why Creature instantly backed off of you. It had no bearing on my read on you though, though it seemed like it had affected other people's read on you and Juliets. It's also why I think Nanook told me that I had to include Juliets in the towncore, too, if I included you in it.
Ugh, ok. I meant to imply something else. Apparently nobody caught on to what it actually was, but I wasn't surprised to be cleared off it.
I think you specifically figured out juliets' role and I think that's because you're the mafia role cop and have been using her to your advantage.
What do you think I think her role is?

Or to put it differently, to defend myself here I have to state what I think her role is. Do you ask me to do that?

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:36 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:59 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:53 am
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:47 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:43 am By the way, I think the Vig that was in our group is within, like, [TLib, Elephant, and nutella].
Can you explain what's up with the "misread roleclaim" business? The vig might be in that group because nutella talked a LOT about holstering, but I had someone else in mind for that role.
Yeah, I think people kinda thought you were softing cop with a green check on Juliet. That's why Creature instantly backed off of you. It had no bearing on my read on you though, though it seemed like it had affected other people's read on you and Juliets. It's also why I think Nanook told me that I had to include Juliets in the towncore, too, if I included you in it.
Ugh, ok. I meant to imply something else. Apparently nobody caught on to what it actually was, but I wasn't surprised to be cleared off it.
I think you specifically figured out juliets' role and I think that's because you're the mafia role cop and have been using her to your advantage.

What do you think I think her role is?

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:31 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:06 pm I asked the Syndicate players before if there is any point in the game where you can safely start talking about PRs because the role points are spent, or this that just not done? I'm new to this role point mechanic, and it seems to me players would want to spend them before potentially succumbing to nocturnal death, but maybe that's not how you guys play? How does this usually happen in games on here?
Elephant, I've never seen a game with role points on here. We sometimes have items but thats not the same thing at all. Maybe someone else will remember something similar to rp but I can't.

Ok, thank you!

I asked the Syndicate players before if there is any point in the game where you can safely start talking about PRs because the role points are spent, or this that just not done? I'm new to this role point mechanic, and it seems to me players would want to spend them before potentially succumbing to nocturnal death, but maybe that's not how you guys play? How does this usually happen in games on here?

Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:50 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:21 pm E@Elephant
If you are town, why do you have four votes?
Who is scum on your wagon?

Long Con, iaafr, Michelle, nutella:
Why are you voting for Elephant? What is the scummiest post in his ISO?
I pushed a mislynch for 3 days, and that is apparently what scum do. Also, I'm in the coffee group POE. Michelle is misdirected.

And Radishes and 112 have left my wagon. If you ask me for scum, I'd point to them, and nutella and Long Con for POE reasons.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:21 pm E[mention]Elephant[/mention]
If you are town, why do you have four votes?
Who is scum on your wagon?

Long Con, iaafr, Michelle, nutella:
Why are you voting for Elephant? What is the scummiest post in his ISO?

I pushed a mislynch for 3 days, and that is apparently what scum do. Also, I'm in the coffee group POE. Michelle is misdirected.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:20 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:12 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:45 pm Yeah. You switched from an obvious townie you made a bad case on to a low-poster. Solid work.
1) vanity was not an obvious townie.
2) DFaraday had 1 post per game day. I had two wagons to choose from. He was clearly a better lynch than Boo. I did not make those wagons, in fact, I opposed lynching low hanging fruit precisely because mislynches are the inevitable result.
I'll accept your 2nd point.

I don't accept your 1st. I know people read games differently and all, but vanity was one of the most widely town-read people during D1 for good reasons. It also should suggest that scum were hopping on that consensus townread. On top of that, he ended up in a tied vote D3, which is nearly always a v/v situation because it shows scum don't care about the result.

Vanity the new Keldeo.

Yes. I made that Keldeo observation on D4. But it's not really true because vanity was never a serious wagon on D2, I think? He came out of the D3 lynch alive only because Nanook had equalized the wagons.

We had the vig shoot a counterwagon on N1. We had the vig resolve the counterwagon on N2. My theory for vanity refusing to self-preserve on D3 was that scum had rolecopped nutella as doublevoter and thus knew the wagons were safe.

How is "lynch vanity" a reasonable scum agenda in any world? My problem with lynching vanity was that it was so hard to get traction for it in the face of inferior lynches. Scum was busy pushing Boo and Ty4on, today they're pushing TLib, and I have yet to see a case on him that goes beyond "he didn't do much". Go lynch Quin, if that's what you lynch for.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:45 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:43 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:33 pm
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Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:46 am taking advantage of pc to write my paper notes

D1 vote count

[10] Dragomir - Benson, nutella, vanity., Long Con, Master Radishes, Hyena, Trustworthy Liberal, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Pawn Lelouch, juliets
[7] 112 - Creature, Evenstar, TonyStarkPrime, novaselinenever, Elephant, Epignosis, Jackofhearts2005
[3] Evenstar - Texas Cloverleaf?, sprityo, Quin
[2] Hyena - Dom, Michelle
[2] No Lynch - iaafr, boo
[1] Epignosis - MacDougall
[1] MacDougall - Dragomir
[1] nutella - Lady LambdaDelta
[1] Trustworthy Liberal - 112

D2 vc
[5] boo - Long Con, Hyena, nutella, Benson, vanity.,
[5] DFaraday - Trustworthy Liberal, Creature, juliets,boo , Elephant
[1] Trustworthy Liberal - DFaraday

D3 vc
[1] Creature - NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
[2] Elephant - Long Con, vanity.
[3] Nova/Ty4on - nutella, juliets, Creature
[1] Trustworthy Liberal - Nova/Ty4on
[3] vanity. -Trustworthy Liberal, Elephant, Hyena

D4 vc
[3] Trustworthy Liberal - Long Con, vanity., Creature
[5] vanity. - Elephant, juliets, Hyena, nutella, Trustworthy Liberal
non voting - Quin, LLD
TL and elephant look a bit worse in the context of these votes

Thank you for coloring them for me

Why?
D2 I was on vanity most of the day, and switched to DFaraday at EoD.
Yeah. You switched from an obvious townie you made a bad case on to a low-poster. Solid work.

1) vanity was not an obvious townie.
2) DFaraday had 1 post per game day. I had two wagons to choose from. He was clearly a better lynch than Boo. I did not make those wagons, in fact, I opposed lynching low hanging fruit precisely because mislynches are the inevitable result.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:57 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:54 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:46 pm Man, I'm feeling sassy today.
Please don't make another shitstorm happen. I have a hard time biting back my reaction to "If he’s town he’s done nothing good to help solve the game" as it is.
Which shitstorm did I make happen?

Apologies, this might become your first, but wouldn't be the first for this game day.
It's a pub brawl after all.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:01 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:57 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:51 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:48 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:33 pm Elephant 4 [Long Con, iaafr, Michelle, Nutella]
JackofHearts2005 2 [Epignosis, Dom]
Long Con 2 [Macdougall, JackofHearts2005]
Nutella 2 [Lady Lambdadelta, Evenstar]
Evenstar 2 [112, Sprityo]
Epignosis 1 [Pawn Lelouch]
Hyena 1 [Master Radishes]
iaafr 1 [Quin]
Dom 1[Elephant]
Trustworthy Liberal 1 [Hyena]

3 Not Voting: Juliets, ColinisCool, Trustworthy Liberal

17 votes cast and the largest wagon is 4.

What an absolutely atrocious votal. We need to get our shit together.

(I guess it's better than "nova/jack is obvious scum, lol", but not by much.)

@Hyena
@Elephant
@Quin
@Master Radishes
@Pawn Lelouch

All of you, make your strongest case for why the person you are on right now deserves to be in contention. If you don't have a case you're willing to put time in to defend, vote someone else.

@juliets
@ColinIsCool
@Trustworthy Liberal

This may be the most important day phase in the entire game. We need your input. Put a damn vote down already.
Dom is an infolynch at this point. If he flips scum, Michelle is absolutely town, unless she refuses to commit -- and if she refuses, I need to re-evaluate her.
I have made a case on Radishes for the F3 lynch.
Lynching in my group is straight POE.
Sorry, hold on. You want to infolynch at this stage ? And you want it to be Dom, because it'll clear Michelle?

I have too much respect for you to think that's town mindset logic.
I'm not convincing you anyway. You're not baiting me here.
Fine, I'll try to cut down the sass. I do mean it that I respect you, though.

But we're not lynching Dom today just to see how that makes Michelle look. We are far too deep into this game, and the mafia are doing far too well, to be wasting a lynch on that. Vote for Dom if he's a wolf, not because he's an info lynch.

If Michelle is town, Dom is 100% a wolf, pending Michelle's reaction.

Here's a question for the Syndicate people. I'm not used to playing with role points. Would the power roles usually still have role points left this far into the game, or would they be spent? Or would the PRs have kept a RP saved up? How would new players handle this?
The thought behind this is, is it safe to talk about PRs now? If the RPs are spent, we are all as good as vanilla now, and if we can identify roles, we have townclears.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:51 pm
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:48 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:33 pm Elephant 4 [Long Con, iaafr, Michelle, Nutella]
JackofHearts2005 2 [Epignosis, Dom]
Long Con 2 [Macdougall, JackofHearts2005]
Nutella 2 [Lady Lambdadelta, Evenstar]
Evenstar 2 [112, Sprityo]
Epignosis 1 [Pawn Lelouch]
Hyena 1 [Master Radishes]
iaafr 1 [Quin]
Dom 1[Elephant]
Trustworthy Liberal 1 [Hyena]

3 Not Voting: Juliets, ColinisCool, Trustworthy Liberal

17 votes cast and the largest wagon is 4.

What an absolutely atrocious votal. We need to get our shit together.

(I guess it's better than "nova/jack is obvious scum, lol", but not by much.)

@Hyena
@Elephant
@Quin
@Master Radishes
@Pawn Lelouch

All of you, make your strongest case for why the person you are on right now deserves to be in contention. If you don't have a case you're willing to put time in to defend, vote someone else.

@juliets
@ColinIsCool
@Trustworthy Liberal

This may be the most important day phase in the entire game. We need your input. Put a damn vote down already.
Dom is an infolynch at this point. If he flips scum, Michelle is absolutely town, unless she refuses to commit -- and if she refuses, I need to re-evaluate her.
I have made a case on Radishes for the F3 lynch.
Lynching in my group is straight POE.
Sorry, hold on. You want to infolynch at this stage ? And you want it to be Dom, because it'll clear Michelle?

I have too much respect for you to think that's town mindset logic.

I'm not convincing you anyway. You're not baiting me here.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:46 pm Man, I'm feeling sassy today.

Please don't make another shitstorm happen. I have a hard time biting back my reaction to "If he’s town he’s done nothing good to help solve the game" as it is.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:33 pm Elephant 4 [Long Con, iaafr, Michelle, Nutella]
JackofHearts2005 2 [Epignosis, Dom]
Long Con 2 [Macdougall, JackofHearts2005]
Nutella 2 [Lady Lambdadelta, Evenstar]
Evenstar 2 [112, Sprityo]
Epignosis 1 [Pawn Lelouch]
Hyena 1 [Master Radishes]
iaafr 1 [Quin]
Dom 1[Elephant]
Trustworthy Liberal 1 [Hyena]

3 Not Voting: Juliets, ColinisCool, Trustworthy Liberal

17 votes cast and the largest wagon is 4.

What an absolutely atrocious votal. We need to get our shit together.

(I guess it's better than "nova/jack is obvious scum, lol", but not by much.)

@Hyena
@Elephant
@Quin
@Master Radishes
@Pawn Lelouch

All of you, make your strongest case for why the person you are on right now deserves to be in contention. If you don't have a case you're willing to put time in to defend, vote someone else.

@juliets
@ColinIsCool
@Trustworthy Liberal

This may be the most important day phase in the entire game. We need your input. Put a damn vote down already.

Dom is an infolynch at this point. If he flips scum, Michelle is absolutely town, unless she refuses to commit -- and if she refuses, I need to re-evaluate her.
I have made a case on Radishes for the F3 lynch.
Lynching in my group is straight POE.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:33 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:46 am taking advantage of pc to write my paper notes

D1 vote count

[10] Dragomir - Benson, nutella, vanity., Long Con, Master Radishes, Hyena, Trustworthy Liberal, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Pawn Lelouch, juliets
[7] 112 - Creature, Evenstar, TonyStarkPrime, novaselinenever, Elephant, Epignosis, Jackofhearts2005
[3] Evenstar - Texas Cloverleaf?, sprityo, Quin
[2] Hyena - Dom, Michelle
[2] No Lynch - iaafr, boo
[1] Epignosis - MacDougall
[1] MacDougall - Dragomir
[1] nutella - Lady LambdaDelta
[1] Trustworthy Liberal - 112

D2 vc
[5] boo - Long Con, Hyena, nutella, Benson, vanity.,
[5] DFaraday - Trustworthy Liberal, Creature, juliets,boo , Elephant
[1] Trustworthy Liberal - DFaraday

D3 vc
[1] Creature - NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
[2] Elephant - Long Con, vanity.
[3] Nova/Ty4on - nutella, juliets, Creature
[1] Trustworthy Liberal - Nova/Ty4on
[3] vanity. -Trustworthy Liberal, Elephant, Hyena

D4 vc
[3] Trustworthy Liberal - Long Con, vanity., Creature
[5] vanity. - Elephant, juliets, Hyena, nutella, Trustworthy Liberal
non voting - Quin, LLD
TL and elephant look a bit worse in the context of these votes

Thank you for coloring them for me

Why?
D2 I was on vanity most of the day, and switched to DFaraday at EoD.

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:45 am This is from the Day 4 thread.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:23 am
Dom wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:18 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:07 am I’m not certain there’s a wolf at all at this level. If there is, I’m not certain it’s Dom. Like I townread Epi for most of the game and then he told me my read on him was stupid.

What’s the disadvantage to lynching if there is no wolf?

We’re lynching Radishes tomorrow regardless.
....why do you know radishes will be with "us"

This is so freaking weird that you have been assuming so much knowledge about the game. What do you know, why do you know it, and how do you know it?
I assume Radishes gets lynched today back to us. If not, idk what happens if scum wins the “final three.”

Surely they don’t just win cause why are we here if that’s the case?

They might all three come back to us regardless of their lynch.

So Radish should come back to us in a lot of possible worlds and we can and should lynch him tomorrow regardless of who we lynch today.
Jack has AMAZING knowledge of a thread he's not a part of, huh?

Has Jack defended here?
With your weird voting rules, he'd have to know that Radishes was neither lynched nor nightkilled, then he'd have assumed that the other players went to a deeper dream level. And that being a 3-player dream, something had to happen.
Players jump to conclusions. If you lynch for that, lynch MR for his "gain some advantage" post, lynch TLib for "when I think split, I think two", lynch those on my level who predicted you would not see a nova flip on the above level. It's just not a lot if you take it by itself.

The weird thing is Jack predicting that MR gets lynched at that upper level. This was never clear until Evenstar switched her vote; maybe Sprityo could have predicted it if they anticipated Evenstar changing, which seems like a super big chance for scum to take when they could just have voted with Radishes. So that prediction is just a guess and nothing more"

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:04 pm work time for me for real.

cya later

I guess I need to wait for a reaction, then.

Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:02 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:56 am
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:28 am
Spoiler: show

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:24 am
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:15 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:07 am
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this is my first post against Dom. before criticize it think at the low level of info we had in the dream level.
It says "Phase 2", but this is a day 3 post, right? Are you as certain about Dom as you are about me?
Nova flipped town, btw.
yes, how do you know? scumchat told you isn't it?
Almost.
I know, we talked today btw.
Can you please dial down the hostility? Nanook and Nova are mentioned, that's how I know.
"Almost" is not the answer I was hoping for.
The point about nova is that your read on nova was wrong. But then, you weren't very confident on them, so maybe that's ok.
the fact I call you wolf is not hostility, is game my read.

Thanks, your last sentence implies that being my confidence my reads are ok.

Elephant agrees he and Dom are scum
I do not agree that I am scum.
If you arrived at these reads the same way (and if my assumptions are correct), then Dom must be scum.

[VOTE: Dom] aubergine
One way to find out. [mention]juliets[/mention] ?

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:56 am
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:28 am
Spoiler: show

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:24 am
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:15 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:07 am
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by Michelle » Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:09 am
Dom's Iso is a chain of shades adressed firstly at Iaafr who is my top TR since day 1 with Nutella and Radishes that to mention 3 players.

If we have or not night 2 kills we have no infos, but Nova and Nanook goes to other creepy dream level distinct by this one. No words about everyone else but that isn't worrisome, we know since Boo was mislynched that a thread with normal lynch mechanics still exists and there mafia succeded to push it's narrative.

And he played a lot, like we see below:

And that is his last post. What a scum play!

Dom goes near Elephant in my scumpile of players outside the dream and to make them a trio i will add Nova.

@Quin don't limit yourself at the current list, you have to give your ideas for everyone in this thread for me to make a read on you. Thanks for cooperation.
this is my first post against Dom. before criticize it think at the low level of info we had in the dream level.
It says "Phase 2", but this is a day 3 post, right? Are you as certain about Dom as you are about me?
Nova flipped town, btw.
yes, how do you know? scumchat told you isn't it?
Almost.
I know, we talked today btw.
Can you please dial down the hostility? Nanook and Nova are mentioned, that's how I know.
"Almost" is not the answer I was hoping for.
The point about nova is that your read on nova was wrong. But then, you weren't very confident on them, so maybe that's ok.
the fact I call you wolf is not hostility, is game my read.

Thanks, your last sentence implies that being my confidence my reads are ok.

Elephant agrees he and Dom are scum

I do not agree that I am scum.
If you arrived at these reads the same way (and if my assumptions are correct), then Dom must be scum.

Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:58 am Dom is site staff, that's why he can quote. Jimmy wrote it would be disabled, but it apparently isn't.

I missed out on some bespoke tantrums last night. Evenstar calming the waters is a good look for her.

EBWOP

Dom is site staff, that's why he can quote. Jimmy wrote it would be disabled, but it apparently isn't.

I missed out on some besoke tantrums last night. Evenstar calming the waters is a good look for her.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:43 am Like the title of them reads elephant, these are the posts that I found notable. Radishes or Evenstar might have different points in that day they felt were more important and could post them if they want

Ah, ok. I'm mostly interested in how you justified your late vote on Radishes, and basically everything from everyone after this.

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:41 am
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:40 am @Dom Is there a case on Jack having information he should not have?
...yeah.... I'm making it... did you read my posts or?

No, I just saw you reference it in your recent post, and became curious. So yours is another ISO I have to look up then?

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:40 am
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:30 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:18 am @Michelle see above
Could you please post your own wall as well?
It wouldn’t exactly be fair for me to post myself, but I can. I asked Evenstar and Radishes to do it

Well, just cheat on posting your own wall, then scum hunting becomes very easy!

[mention]Dom[/mention] Is there a case on Jack having information he should not have?

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:25 am @Elephant have you read enough of the whole F3 issue to know what you think about it?

Do you see Eva as wolf in this game? What about Pawn? Also would appreciate an opinion on Jack. Where are you on TLib?

Besides Michelle who else are you reading as scum and why?

Out of all these questions maybe the one you can answer the easiest is where are you on TLib. Benson's posts before he died about TLib haunt me.

Also everyone I have to go to the gym for my rehab. I will be back as soon as I can.

From my talk with Sprityo and Radishes' entrance, I like Radishes to be scum. I have a hard time reading Evenstar in any situation. I have not looked at Pawn or Jack. TLib would be a POE lynch for me. I'm still town on you and Hyena, would look for scum in the other three. I'd have to look up Benson.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:18 am @Michelle see above

Could you please post your own wall as well?

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:24 am
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:15 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:07 am
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by Michelle » Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:09 am
Dom's Iso is a chain of shades adressed firstly at Iaafr who is my top TR since day 1 with Nutella and Radishes that to mention 3 players.

If we have or not night 2 kills we have no infos, but Nova and Nanook goes to other creepy dream level distinct by this one. No words about everyone else but that isn't worrisome, we know since Boo was mislynched that a thread with normal lynch mechanics still exists and there mafia succeded to push it's narrative.
Dom wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:59 pm
...i'm quite frankly sick of this discourse and want to play the game.
And he played a lot, like we see below:
Dom wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:59 pm
Yeah, I don't love radishes' posts at all.
And that is his last post. What a scum play!

Dom goes near Elephant in my scumpile of players outside the dream and to make them a trio i will add Nova.
Quin wrote: ↑
Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:02 am
but also like when i have a minute i'll read through who's left and give thoughts now that i'm not buried in activity
@Quin don't limit yourself at the current list, you have to give your ideas for everyone in this thread for me to make a read on you. Thanks for cooperation.
this is my first post against Dom. before criticize it think at the low level of info we had in the dream level.
It says "Phase 2", but this is a day 3 post, right? Are you as certain about Dom as you are about me?
Nova flipped town, btw.
yes, how do you know? scumchat told you isn't it?
Almost.
I know, we talked today btw.

Can you please dial down the hostility? Nanook and Nova are mentioned, that's how I know.
"Almost" is not the answer I was hoping for.
The point about nova is that your read on nova was wrong. But then, you weren't very confident on them, so maybe that's ok.

Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:23 am
juliets wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:31 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:30 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:26 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:40 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:36 pm I'm so fucking annoyed yet so relieved that people are back. But seriously, did you guys really just send us inactive players? WTF.
We lynched iaafr yesterday in case ya’ll got lonely.
Jack, how do you know you lynched iaafr? Were you allowed to put your final votes in the thread instead of PMing them?
Our votes were public on the last day, at least at DL3.
Have these polls been posted here?

Ohhh ok I did not understand that, thanks.

Sorry, I didnt scroll down enough when replying.
Do we have the polls?

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:31 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:30 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:26 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:40 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:36 pm I'm so fucking annoyed yet so relieved that people are back. But seriously, did you guys really just send us inactive players? WTF.
We lynched iaafr yesterday in case ya’ll got lonely.
Jack, how do you know you lynched iaafr? Were you allowed to put your final votes in the thread instead of PMing them?
Our votes were public on the last day, at least at DL3.
Have these polls been posted here?

Ohhh ok I did not understand that, thanks.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:07 am
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by Michelle » Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:09 am
Dom's Iso is a chain of shades adressed firstly at Iaafr who is my top TR since day 1 with Nutella and Radishes that to mention 3 players.

If we have or not night 2 kills we have no infos, but Nova and Nanook goes to other creepy dream level distinct by this one. No words about everyone else but that isn't worrisome, we know since Boo was mislynched that a thread with normal lynch mechanics still exists and there mafia succeded to push it's narrative.
Dom wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:59 pm
...i'm quite frankly sick of this discourse and want to play the game.
And he played a lot, like we see below:
Dom wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:59 pm
Yeah, I don't love radishes' posts at all.
And that is his last post. What a scum play!

Dom goes near Elephant in my scumpile of players outside the dream and to make them a trio i will add Nova.
Quin wrote: ↑
Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:02 am
but also like when i have a minute i'll read through who's left and give thoughts now that i'm not buried in activity
@Quin don't limit yourself at the current list, you have to give your ideas for everyone in this thread for me to make a read on you. Thanks for cooperation.
this is my first post against Dom. before criticize it think at the low level of info we had in the dream level.

It says "Phase 2", but this is a day 3 post, right? Are you as certain about Dom as you are about me?
Nova flipped town, btw.

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:04 am
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:38 am
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:17 am Were the dream levels aware that when someone was lynched or NK'd at their level they came into the top level where the lynch or NK became real?

On a different subject, I am now reading nutella as town after reading through her posts in this new phase. I don't agree with everything she says but that's ok.

I was seeing Elephant as town in our time together before we merged back together. I am concerned though because he hasn't been here very much in this new phase and I don't understand his vote on Michelle. @Elephant I need to see more from you today.
You were writing this while I replied to Michelle, did you see me come online?
I felt I had wasted a lot of my day (7 hours) yesterday catching up on this game, and decided to prioritize other things for a while. I think I checked the poll at night, and saw Evenstar going off the Epignosis wagon on someone else, and felt I had nothing to contribute to that fight.

nutella says you "no longer defend me", what is she referring to?
Elephant, no I did not see you come online. Must have happened while I was typing.

What nutella means is after the vanity lynch at the beginning of this phase I vowed to blow up all my town reads because I felt like I was caught in a trap of town reading someone or ones who were really mafia. She didn't want to scum read you before based on my assertion that you were most definitely town so when I said I was no longer giving anyone from our group a town read her interest in you rekindled.

I have slowly been reassessing and said a little earlier I can now find nutella as town based on her posting this phase. I do not however agree with all her reads.

I felt very strongly about you as town in our group and just need to see some thoughts from you about all of this new stuff that has come into the thread this phase to know whether I can go back to that read. I don't agree with you about Michelle, in fact I find her very towny but I have the luxury of having played scum with her and seeing her behavior as scum. I don't need to agree with you on all your reads to find you as town but I do need to see some thoughts.

Also just to be clear I totally understand you taking a break from this yesterday. I probably should have done the same.

I doubt I'm going to catch up on "all this new stuff", so if there is anything specific you'd like me to see, please point me to it. I am happy to take your word on Michelle, and she may be very towny indeed.

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