The Syndicate

nova says i cant post the qt link in thread

i can however say that LC thought it was weird I said no comment on the BTSC (which I did because I didn't want them to know I could spy on it), but didn't care enough to push it after I didn't respond

if that's enough to prove that I looked at the btsc @KZA

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:21 pm everyone is full claiming today, sorry

yup

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:17 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:15 pm at this stage in the game, i think it's worth it to do a partial claim:

one of the abilities that i have (which i can now no longer use, hence why i'm outing this) is a protective role. i protected michelle last night, so i'm pretty sure the wolves tried to hit her without realizing that a protective role was alive
but wolves have strongmans. why wouldn’t they use that on the claimed cop?

maybe they thought mich would be busdriven and I would be protected?

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:17 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:15 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:14 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:13 pm oh right

it wasn't LC

I got oddmerta to swap

nice
who was the intended target?
me

i ordered odd to swap myself and my strongest scumread, and I gave KZA and LC BTSC
why did you give lc btsc if you were going to try to kill him?

because I can spy on the BTSC, which I left out of my roleclaim. (I can prove that I can spy on the BTSC by linking the quicktopic, since I don't have claim restrictions.) I picked two people I thought could plausibly be W/W together to check if they would out themselves by saying something like "lol she neighborized two wolves, we alrady have scumchat silly". I wasn't particularly confident this would happen though, and just treated it as a "might as well try it" thing, my main plan was always the bus drive.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:15 pm at this stage in the game, i think it's worth it to do a partial claim:

one of the abilities that i have (which i can now no longer use, hence why i'm outing this) is a protective role. i protected michelle last night, so i'm pretty sure the wolves tried to hit her without realizing that a protective role was alive

if no CC I'll assume this is true and clear both you and mich

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:15 pm how can you busdrive a strongman kill

the point if a strongman is it always hits who it’s supposed to no?

no, strongman pierces protections and roleblocks

i don't know how "super kill" works but general strongmen get busdriven

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:14 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:13 pm oh right

it wasn't LC

I got oddmerta to swap

nice
who was the intended target?

me

i ordered odd to swap myself and my strongest scumread, and I gave KZA and LC BTSC

I'm waiting for odd to confirm that he carried out the orders I gave him first though

oh right

it wasn't LC

I got oddmerta to swap

nice

why would you strongman LC

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:37 pm ive had a tinfoil theory that alison and her troopers are literally all just wolves

but i dont think there's any particular reason to believe that's true

out of the "troopers", i am the most interested in sorting out KZA right now. he has flown significantly under the radar and i have not heard any good reasons to village read him

that would be a 5 man wolf team in a multiball game which does'nt seem possible

and yes SPF has shielded villas as wolves before (in fact the vast majority of wolves have shielded villas before, it's called TMI)

they were awful at scum and basically said they didn't want to play the game in wolfchat so I said "ok cool I have a dayvig, say something scummy in your entrance so I can shoot you" and then I claimed I was a paranoid veteran who had a one shot dayvig and a one shot booby trap (kills everyone who visits me the night its planted) to explain why I wasn't NKed

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:40 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:31 pm I thought the way spf defended me today was extremely towny. I know that pocketing exists, but why would she at this stage of the game when it would be so very easy to allow me to get eliminated.
because spf is the most townsiding wolf i know.

I once dayvigged a teammate 5 posts into D1

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:34 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:30 pm i am willing to just let hally take control of the game and lose to them if they're a wolf
do you object to any of the people i’m clearing?

nope

your solve being basically the same as mine is one of the reasons why I am happy letting you take control

i generally can't get invested in games marred by heavy mech bullshit because I play mafia in order to try to play perfectly and when the whole game revolves around mysterious/swingy mech stuff there's no such thing as perfect play (or if there is it's in a way that's unrelated to the perfect mafia play I try to have)

i am willing to just let hally take control of the game and lose to them if they're a wolf

correct, I can neighbourize two people at night

no comment on the claimed BTSC

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:56 amOnly LC? Why?

The others on the wagon are townie

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:53 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:27 pm why did you all exe the obvious villa while I was asleep
not everyone has TMi

ive been townreading falcon for the past 183 pages and said there's no way he would make up a claim like this, it isn't TMI when I get annoyed that people exe him and he's town.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:08 am
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:55 am I got some orders
These are excellent orders. Do you see how excellent these orders are?

*takes over China*

whoever can tell me where this reference is from gets an MS paint drawing of them as a gift

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:55 am I got some orders

These are excellent orders. Do you see how excellent these orders are?

*takes over China*

why did you all exe the obvious villa while I was asleep

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:38 pm No one answers at my question regarding Odd's role who also is not a towny one

I have his role in my role card so yeah I trust his claim.

KZA wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:25 pm LC is mafia and sensed a chance to take over the thread. Vote him.

seems about right, all townies are giving less of a fuck due to mech and he makes a big wall post asking us to vote town

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

I agree that LC trying to get Esooa exed is scummy af

Esooa's reaction seems townie enough.

The last two troopers are bowden and lutz

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:27 pm @Alison please out lou solversons full role

You arent a trooper

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:57 am It looks like Ben Schmidt should be a trooper from flavor yeah? Someone correct me if im wrong

There's no Trooper Schmidt.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:36 pm because if we live in a world where michelle got driven and checked sloonei instead of alison, what are the possible mafia roles that could have made sloonei turn up red? the only feasible explanation i could come up with was "framer", and i think that sloonei had an extremely low chance of being a framer target, given his position in the game. michelle being an insane/unreliable cop is possible but it would probably imply that ted was actually a wolf, and i am doubtful that he was

i brought up the idea of someone who insanifies, ie. a mafia role that targets a player to mess up their night results. Since Michelle was a claimed cop at that point in time, it would make sense for mafia to target her n2 but not n1.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:34 pm Alright, here goes nothing. If I get daykilled I apologize for being a dumbass.

I am Captain Jeb Cheney. I have two day actions. One is to give two players access to a private chat for the night. Sort of like a temporary neighborizer. I can neighborize myself. The other is a little complicated. There are four trooper roles in the game, I know their flavor (role name) and abilities which I feel no need to disclose at this point. Trooper Milch is one of them which is how I cleared Oddmerta. Technically it isn't stated that they're confirmed town but it is heavily implied that they are and in terms of flavor I think it doesn't make sense for them to be evil. Anyway, as a day action I can order one trooper to do something with their night action. Basically I control their night action. They can choose to accept or refuse my order. If they accept, they do the night action the way I ordered them to. If they refuse, I get to strip them of their abilities and gift those abilities to someone else.

@staypositivefriend

I guess the simplest way is to just ask @Michelle to clarify if her action is negative with the host.

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:35 pm
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:20 pm Maybe it's not me with the negative action, Michelle with some sort of negative investigation?
an alignment investigation isn’t negative

do we know if michelle's ability is a straight alignment investigation

we've been treating it like it is but she's been pretty cagey about the details

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:14 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME want to play Portal?

Rules are simple, you shoot me and a scum dies.

But is it a) I'm lying about my abilities

or b) I will swap myself with a scum tonigjt and get the alley oop kill. I line them up and you knock them down

Don't do this, I have stuff for you to do.

If Odd was roleblocked then it was by mafia since no town roleblockers have come forward.

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:50 pm is bus drive a negative action?

odd busdrives sloonei and alison

sloonei passes the busdrive onto al_sama so odd is busdriving alison and al_sama

michelle checks alison and gets a result on al_sama

bingo?

probably? bus drive is a manipulative action, like a roleblock, and a roleblock would almost certainly be redirected

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:40 pm Oh holy shit, I think @staypositivefriend just cracked it wide open.

Sloonei chooses a wolf as his security detail.

Oddmerta swaps Sloonei with Alison.

Michelle checks Alison, which is really a check on Sloonei, which is really a check on whatever wolf he chose as security detail.

As fuck-bonkers as it is to say, this kinda makes sense.

a check isn't a negative action

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:26 pm @Alison, as the trooper, do you have any kind of proof of what Oddmerta did that night? Is there any reason to believe it was definitely Sloonei he swapped you with?

I don't have any way to prove what oddmerta did, I didn't give him an order that night so he was acting solo

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:21 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:20 pm undeclared faulty cops that don't know they're faulty are bastard because it's a host lie (ie. the host is lying that you receive the target's alignment when really you receive something else). I will pretend that isn't a possibility and if it leads me down the wrong path then so be it. from my perspective even if odd is roleblocked mich still outed a red check on a townie so something else is at play here.

something like a framer could be possible, but it doesn't make sense to target me with a framer role that night. maybe an "insanifier" that messes up the night results of whoever they target.

the last option is that mich is lying but I don't really see that as plausible.
Do we have proof that it was Sloonei who you were swapped with? Is it possible he swapped you with someone else who is a wolf?

why on earth would wolf oddmerta swap me with one of his own buddies

undeclared faulty cops that don't know they're faulty are bastard because it's a host lie (ie. the host is lying that you receive the target's alignment when really you receive something else). I will pretend that isn't a possibility and if it leads me down the wrong path then so be it. from my perspective even if odd is roleblocked mich still outed a red check on a townie so something else is at play here.

something like a framer could be possible, but it doesn't make sense to target me with a framer role that night. maybe an "insanifier" that messes up the night results of whoever they target.

the last option is that mich is lying but I don't really see that as plausible.

to be clear falcon, michelle's red check isn't on me

she targeted me, which mean she targeted sloonei. she's raised the possibility that odd could be roleblocked, which is possible, but we haven't seen any evidence this is the case and odd was very much not a high-priority roleblock target n2.

I do not endorse blindly flipping mich if you exe me first. It seems more likely that a framer, faulty cop, or other issue is at play.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:38 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:35 pm I mean look

Were almost definitely gonna kill mich first

If she flips cop we'll figure out what went wrong

But she has a check it looks impossible for her to have
Why is impossible?

because you're red checking a flipped town

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:34 pm @Alison, @Oddmerta, please refresh my memory as to this busdriving claim?

on night 2, oddmerta busdrove me and sloonei. he claimed this soon after day 3 started, and said that it was to try to get sloonei (who he read as scum) to eat a bullet in my place.

michelle targeted me and got a red check. since odd busdrove me and sloonei, it means that she got a red check on sloonei, who is flipped town. that tells me either michelle is lying for no reason at all or something wonky happened with the night actions.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:32 pm Yeah I mean

Theres definitely a mafia in that trio

Probably best to flip mich first and figure it out from there

Although I don't think she's likely to be mafia claiming a fake red tbh

i don't think mich is scum, I think something messed with her night actions

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:30 pm Who's claiming the busdrive again? Bo?

oddmerta

and he claimed his swap before you claimed your check, it's well established that he swapped me that night. he says he was trying to redirect mafia shot from me to sloonei which fits since sloonei was his mafia read.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:27 pm Who swapped you?

oddmerta

also why did you hold a red check for so long

the last night with actions was a night I was swapped with sloonei

so if you targeted me, you got a result on sloonei, who is flipped town

also how did you get a check on an intermission that isn't actually a night

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