The Syndicate

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:04 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:02 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:02 am
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:00 am @tutuu why are you voting me?
Cuz PoE is getting tight buddyyyyyyy
vote ted!
I must protect Alison's precious pouts

[VOTE: tedxtr] aubergine

I kinda think hes town but im in a mood to be obedient

you think everyone is town

you thought jpic was town for some reason, and sprityo as well

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:02 am
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:00 am @tutuu why are you voting me?
Cuz PoE is getting tight buddyyyyyyy

vote ted!

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:58 am Yes - I don't trust nanook that fake claimed once and then hard claimed the other time, on the same day

it would be a pretty silly thing to do but so would claiming that you can hardclear yourself and then not doing it as town, so im forced to operate off the assumption that ted has done something silly this game regardless

I'm keeping it real with you, I'm on full autopilot this game and I have 100% confidence it's the right thing to do. random paranoia on people I've cleared as town is not correct in this setup and that's why I've had 0 doubts about tutuu, mac, spf, juliets etc. I fully intend to brute-force the POE down and then we can talk about deepwolves once we're down to FX. It's what I should have done in amdibals (and would have won us the game there), and it's what we should have done in jack attack too, it would have given us a shot. Not gonna lose any more games to nonsense paranoia so you're gonna have to exe me (which you can't) if you want to play the game that way

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:55 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:19 am If there's a claimed track on me I'm like actually mechanically locked as town.

There are most likely 2 mafia left AT MOST. If we all agree on this then I'm locked town or 3p.

We know one is a mafia rolecop. We don't know the either.

If I'm the mafia rolecop, why do I check Nanook who already claimed? So that's out of question.

If I'm the other unknown role, then what could I have possibly done to Nanook instead of Mac or Alison (assuming scum wanted Hally gone). There aren't a lot of options that would express a role with a scum motive to do something to Nanook.

If we go from the base assumption of "mafia have roles that negatively affect the village and help them" then what could I have possibly done to Nanook when he's likely dying today regardless?

The only way you can counter my last question is through "jpic has died" which I couldn't have known as mafia regardless.

i have no idea but I policy exe liars regardless

also I asked mac this question yesterday and he theorized you might be a mafia rolecop who didn't trust nanook's claim or something

I'm willing to thunderdome you until you hardclear yourself though!

Samusamu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:54 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:51 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:49 am [VOTE: Alison ] aubergine
there's nothing you can do to exe me because town isn't dumb, hee ho
Are you calling mac dumb or do you think he is mafia?

mac is being extremely dumb this day phase voting me

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:53 am I can hard clear myself but there's no need to when I already have an impenetrable defence. I'm not gonna claim because the "cop" doesn't buy it. You've yet to say why that wall doesn't make me town because it's a flood of naked truth.

what defense

i was gonna check ted and vote wilgy but ted said he could hard clear himself today and I said to him specifically you will be exed if you don't follow through, and he didn't follow through, so I'm gonna do what I said I would do and exe him.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:49 am [VOTE: Alison ] aubergine

there's nothing you can do to exe me because town isn't dumb, hee ho

i did check wilgy last night. and mac, we've had tutuu on me, she stops roleblocks, and that is public info ever since I outed. so no point roleblocking me.

I'm going to do what I promised and [VOTE: ted] aubergine for not giving his promised hard clear. sorry tim, wilgy lives another day

tracker results waiting room zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[mention]tedxtr[/mention] where is your town confirm btw

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:57 pm
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:57 pm I'm worried about these night chats we keep having
what do you mean?
Like every night there is a night chat

that's normal on the syndicate. JPIC had a power that blocked it but he's dead now.

stuck in a lift

you sound awfully sure you're going to be redchecked weirdchamp

can we table the "is ted scum" discussion for the next day phase since that's when he's allegedly going to hard confirm himself? like if it's a good confirm then there's no need to discuss and if it's a bad one then we can talk about exeing him then

like she blocks kp from hitting the person she targets, but if the person she targets makes a kill, she won't block that. the only thing she does is delay their night action reports - she does not prevent their actions.

also tutuu doesn't block KP

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:46 am This game is stinky, something's wrong.

I think Alison being fake makes sense.

Maybe tutuu just blocked the KP carrier and didn't actually protect it.

My PoE doesn't feel like a game winning one and I also don't get why Alison says I'm potatoing, like, what's their PoE right now? It should look relatively the same. So where's the potatoing.

you were the one who said it, wtf

you are way too hung up on this potato thing

Also tim we lied to you about turboexing wilgy after you mwahahahaha

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:59 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:57 am what is your method of hard clearing yourself?
I don't know if it's optimal to say during night phases.

alright, will it be made known to us by tomorrow?

Cos if it isnt then you are turbo exed. Do you understand?

also hi wisdom, thanks for subbing into the ted slot. i guess he wasn't kidding about wanting to potato.

what is your method of hard clearing yourself?

shit I just realized I have a towntell and now I have to fake it as maf and it's not easy

sigh

mac vs 4 potatoes in f5, he has to find out which 2 are mafia and get them killed while we all watch in dead chat and blame him if he gets it wrong while taking credit for scumreading them all along if he gets it right

you're all going to be humiliated when it turns out I was the mafia and reveal the slip was real in postgame.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:15 pm Since scum has roleblocks btw im not following a plan on who i protect tonight

Im gonna use my humongous brain and stop the NK

mac/juliets/tutuu/alison/spf f5

1 rogue 1 mafia 3 town

come at me

it was totally worth it just to see juliets' reaction though.

fwiw I added the "mac never lies about stuff like this line" just in case people thought it was serious

oops sorry, wrong chat

mac is probably telling the truth about his mafia nuke tbh. he never lies about stuff like that. I'm fairly sure we just lose the game at the end of tonight and your roleblocker ability is out of shots so do you want to just message sloonei and tell him we concede?

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:30 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:27 pm I don't know if this is just me, but I found Herm's weird ass claim to be so unbelievable. I would be highly sceptical of anyone, who didn't have the info Odd seems to have had, who wasn't at least decently convinced Herm was scum. It really just looked like outed scum from a track finding up some weird loophole to make it all fit. Or is that just me?
In all my years of playing mafia I have never seen a role that convoluted. Its no wonder Herm got confused. But I totally thought the claim was unbelievable and the track just sealed it.

I have seen much more convoluted roles actually. But a lot of those were in bastard games. I think the sprityo/Pawn Lelouch role from Jack Attack was the most convoluted I've seen in a non bastard game. That one involved having the slot be secretly filled by two players, and every day they would pretend to sub out and the other would pretend to sub in so they switched around. They were a Survivor with a compulsive random nightkill on a member of the town who had role flavor of a male character, and their flavor was that they were a serial killer with multiple personalities.

very convoluted role. very cool flavor especially if you've read the source material (danganronpa). loved it and it didn't affect the game at all because it doesn't create bastard or confusing outcomes and we exed the slot on reads.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:30 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:29 pm Also, apart from me having read only small parts of the game, maybe it's also less interesting to me because it's sooooo mech heavy. How about also getting into things that are not mech? Or maybe you have all game, and I just haven't paid attention lol. =p

Anyway, good night for real.
i townread herm and oddmerta for non mech reasons!

but yes me and spf have said the same thing, I like mechanics when they're at least semi open and not too heavy, but closed setup with really weird roles is just a fiesta

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:29 pm Also, apart from me having read only small parts of the game, maybe it's also less interesting to me because it's sooooo mech heavy. How about also getting into things that are not mech? Or maybe you have all game, and I just haven't paid attention lol. =p

Anyway, good night for real.

i townread herm and oddmerta for non mech reasons!

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:25 pm I literally have a button that I press and it fires a heat seeking missile that always lands on mafia and never misses. Lands at random.

some people have this ability every game but they can only use it once and only during the day.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:24 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:21 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:19 pm
Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:16 pm Didn't ted say he had nightkill role or something? Iirc it was in one of mac's lists
He was talking like he was a vig at one point. It was weird.
he was semi-jokingly threatening to vig tim, and a lot of people interpreted it as a soft. maybe he was trying to get tim to give the role away so he could rolecop someone else, but tim didn't so he had to rolecop tim to make sure there aren't any nasty comeback abilities for town if the mafia manage to stabilize?
Ah ok thanks Alison.

Also Alison, I'm brain dead so excuse the question but did you not vote? Were you prevented and I just missed that or did I overlook your name on the poll?

I think I did vote, but maybe I actually didn't and misremembered? no clue sorry. I put my vote on herm early on and didn't check the poll the rest of the day and then everyone else was on herm so I didn't care too much

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:24 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:22 pmThe cop lol
I'm trying here, ok? xD Sort of.

But now I'll have to sleep.
This town flip is my favorite in a while actually. It's like "Oh yeah, I forgot that the track result that confirms me scum can actually be explained by this weird ass detail in my role card" and then it was actually true lolololol

town is bad
role is sucky
forgot role card
never lucky

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:23 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:20 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:17 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:15 pmwho is dizzy tracking?
I have my vote on oddmerta. >_>
But he's town from Herm's role. Still can't believe that was a real role.

So I'm just not going to track anyone and save however many shots I have left.
yeah that looks real. if oddmerta softs that he was notified from amnesiac, and then someone else says "I was notified too fuck you"...

it's super risky. i think odd is town

which means i am vindicated for townshielding odd and herm
TMI

It doesn't matter anyway I get a free shot at mafia tonight. I just had to survive til now. I don't even have to aim true and mafia goes kaboom.

you can stop worrying about tmi alison and start admiring my amazing townreading skills after your nuke blows up ted and samu and they flip red then.

what the fuck was scum ted doing at nook's house? rolecopping the claimed conditional doublevoter?

idgi. that's what's bugging me.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:19 pm
Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:16 pm Didn't ted say he had nightkill role or something? Iirc it was in one of mac's lists
He was talking like he was a vig at one point. It was weird.

he was semi-jokingly threatening to vig tim, and a lot of people interpreted it as a soft. maybe he was trying to get tim to give the role away so he could rolecop someone else, but tim didn't so he had to rolecop tim to make sure there aren't any nasty comeback abilities for town if the mafia manage to stabilize?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:17 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:15 pmwho is dizzy tracking?
I have my vote on oddmerta. >_>
But he's town from Herm's role. Still can't believe that was a real role.

So I'm just not going to track anyone and save however many shots I have left.

yeah that looks real. if oddmerta softs that he was notified from amnesiac, and then someone else says "I was notified too fuck you"...

it's super risky. i think odd is town

which means i am vindicated for townshielding odd and herm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:18 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:18 pm What confirms the following:

Nanook
TSP
?
And LC

me. i checked 'em green.

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:15 pm I won't be using my abilities tonight probably.

ok, your abilities aren't that useful in the current gamestate so it's fine. and it means that if a tracker hits you, you won't accidentally look bad from visiting a dead person.

oh right, that reminds me - should we put PC into the track pool? like i legit think PC has been really helpful and town on both mech and tone all game but their role does seem suspiciously similar to herm's, and it's niche enough (unlike eg. tracker) that I don't see why it would have a dupe

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:12 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:11 pm oh shit just saw the herm flip. rip

weird ass game. but idt town can be blamed here since herm role apparently visits everyone in the album they checked. and they also had the misfortune of checking through a shit ton of dead townies.

agree with mac that odd and ted look like tmi machines now
yeah admittedly im salty that we got the worst luck of all time in any mafia game ever by having herm misread his role PM for so long and then having herm's visits happen to be on the people who died, lol

the mafia are probably complaining about how they have the worst luck of all time in any mafia game ever by having their deepest wolf get exed n1 and then the remainders are all slankers and then their n1 kill gets blocked. so I won't say too much about bad luck.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:10 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:09 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:59 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:58 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:56 pm What does "ninja modified" mean?
Ninjas are normally immune to trackers and watchers, I believe? So that, plus something?
There is confirmed a strongkiller in the game. Almost certainly a ninja to counter the tracker watcher. If Ted is strong then he just works through a roleblock.
ted was tracked to tim the same night he violated the roleblock - so what is mafia ted doing at tim's house?
Rolecopping him?

oh right at the time ted visited tim, tim had claimed some mysterious anti-snowball role but was cagey on the details right? maybe that's why ted rolecoppped him

i remember we had some reason to clear tim as maf but not 3p though... I think it was because he visited nook n2 after nook already claimed a shitty role? and that wouldn't work with the rolecop theory.

who is dizzy tracking?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:08 pm Alison can you cop check Ted plz lol

message received

juliets please use your shot on me so I don't get blocked

the lesson learned here is to not misclaim

oh shit just saw the herm flip. rip

weird ass game. but idt town can be blamed here since herm role apparently visits everyone in the album they checked. and they also had the misfortune of checking through a shit ton of dead townies.

agree with mac that odd and ted look like tmi machines now

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:59 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:58 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:56 pm What does "ninja modified" mean?
Ninjas are normally immune to trackers and watchers, I believe? So that, plus something?
There is confirmed a strongkiller in the game. Almost certainly a ninja to counter the tracker watcher. If Ted is strong then he just works through a roleblock.

ted was tracked to tim the same night he violated the roleblock - so what is mafia ted doing at tim's house?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:58 pm I think the truth is simply that the town have someone who either can't claim, or won't claim that actually landed a save on who the mafia were really trying to target.

got it, that makes a lot of sense to me. it would fit with the way the night action claims have gone today.

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