The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:23 am
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:22 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:33 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:31 pm I mean I think Rondo has just been full of shit this game.
Why are you so concerned with Rondo? Do you feel like this is pushing the game forward in a productive way?
I think he's mafia. Yes.
Reeeeeally?

Yes.

What has he done to make you doubt my scumread?

Boquise wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:57 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:20 pm @boquise How good would you say JJJ is at reading you?
I think he has a good track record though that is based on just a few games:

JJJ was one of the few players in S7 semi who correctly town read me. That was a game where basically everyone else hardcore tunnelled me (which was exhausting and confidence-murdering since my quali was like that too but worse).

Iirc, JJJ correctly town read me as a spectator in both my quali and finale game last season. Also one comment I always remember from my vanity reading is JJJ's observation during the semi. He was happy that to see me take lead and actually try to be dominant with my reads. I don't include this game as a correct read because I was outed PR, but still! It is one of those little things that motivates me to improve tbh, and I think JJJ as a player will keep an eye on these little things in this game.

Basically, how JJJ got his read on me is how I expect him to read me, and he keeps being accurate tbh

Cool.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:33 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:31 pm I mean I think Rondo has just been full of shit this game.
Why are you so concerned with Rondo? Do you feel like this is pushing the game forward in a productive way?

I think he's mafia. Yes.

I mean I think Rondo has just been full of shit this game.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:25 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:21 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:19 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:18 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:15 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:11 pm @RondoDimBuckle, Alison has placed a vote on your head. Please talk about that and thanks
It is a thing she has done . I dont really care too much because I knew it was coming and it makes me happy
Why would someone attacking you make you happy?
Because I am a giant troll and love when I can elicit an emotional reaction from people. Ala, you entering thread and insta voting me. Its predictability is food for the soul. It just makes me happy
You didn't exactly jump for joy though. I said I suspected you, you were like "ha ha ha, I knew it!" and then proceeded to steadfastly ignore me from then until now. I didn't get the impression you were trying to fish reactions out of me or that you felt particularly gleeful. I'd expect a troll who really wanted me to attack them to at least tease or bait me once or twice, but you've mostly ignored me, even in the face of constant provocation (ie. me talking about you a bunch).

Spoiler: show
1 Because I am at work so I dont have unlimited time.
I hate ATE so I am going to hide that
2 because we have played that game in the past and it just gets me chopped eventually so I am trying something new where I just ignore you.
3 because I dont have any support yet so I have no in thread power
4 its day 1 so meh
5 Other people are more interesting than you
6 I have lunch now so I am finishing my list
7 maybe I should

[VOTE: Alison ] aubergine

"I am happy that you attacked me because I'm a troll who craves attention, but now that you've actually attacked me and given me what I want, I'm going to hide that emotion because I don't want to use AtE"? How does that make sense as a thought process? Why would expressing happiness be AtE at all?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:19 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:18 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:15 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:11 pm @RondoDimBuckle, Alison has placed a vote on your head. Please talk about that and thanks
It is a thing she has done . I dont really care too much because I knew it was coming and it makes me happy
Why would someone attacking you make you happy?
Because I am a giant troll and love when I can elicit an emotional reaction from people. Ala, you entering thread and insta voting me. Its predictability is food for the soul. It just makes me happy

You didn't exactly jump for joy though. I said I suspected you, you were like "ha ha ha, I knew it!" and then proceeded to steadfastly ignore me from then until now. I didn't get the impression you were trying to fish reactions out of me or that you felt particularly gleeful. I'd expect a troll who really wanted me to attack them to at least tease or bait me once or twice, but you've mostly ignored me, even in the face of constant provocation (ie. me talking about you a bunch).

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:15 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:11 pm @RondoDimBuckle, Alison has placed a vote on your head. Please talk about that and thanks
It is a thing she has done . I dont really care too much because I knew it was coming and it makes me happy

Why would someone attacking you make you happy?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:59 pm I may have an outdated view of Creature's meta. Regardless, we ought to let him speak for himself.

I think that's fair yeah.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:06 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:03 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:34 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:31 pm I think ur getting outright baited here, them doing dumb stuff and you attempting to question and make sense of it @Seanzie
If that's the case, then so be it.

Ender could be using Rondo as an excuse to mess around rather than give AI content though, which is worrying. Rondo I kinda expect this from for the entire game. Ender I don't. Could be in fluff still if he is voting for jokesies, but kinda think Ender has been kickin' around enough already to not be in fluff anymore, so I think his vote on Fingersplints meant something.
I don't really think Ender is hiding behind Rondo. His exchange with JJJ about JJJ's squad of three didn't involve Rondo and was an unprompted offering of AI content. He hasn't been particularly forthcoming about his thought processes, but this is unfortunately not uncommon for townies (even though it annoys me) and he's probably given more AI thoughts than most players in the game.
Sounds like you agree that he is unlikely to be in fluff still, and so there probably was/is something to his vote on Fingersplints.

I don't disagree that townies will sometimes be less than forthcoming. Doesn't mean I shouldn't pressure people to answer things though.

I agree he probably has a reason for voting fingersplints and didn't just pick her name out of a hat, yeah. I don't mind you pressuring him to be more forthcoming, I'm just saying I don't think he's hiding behind Rondo.

Speaking of, what are your thoughts on Rondo?

@EnderWiggin When Rondo spoke to you about thinking he'd get targeted by me pre-game, how did he feel about it? Was he resigned, annoyed, what?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:34 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:31 pm I think ur getting outright baited here, them doing dumb stuff and you attempting to question and make sense of it @Seanzie
If that's the case, then so be it.

Ender could be using Rondo as an excuse to mess around rather than give AI content though, which is worrying. Rondo I kinda expect this from for the entire game. Ender I don't. Could be in fluff still if he is voting for jokesies, but kinda think Ender has been kickin' around enough already to not be in fluff anymore, so I think his vote on Fingersplints meant something.

I don't really think Ender is hiding behind Rondo. His exchange with JJJ about JJJ's squad of three didn't involve Rondo and was an unprompted offering of AI content. He hasn't been particularly forthcoming about his thought processes, but this is unfortunately not uncommon for townies (even though it annoys me) and he's probably given more AI thoughts than most players in the game.

FWIW I have seen many Creature town games where he does nothing, lowposts, and sheeps whoever is loud obvious town.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:42 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:40 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:39 pm [VOTE: Creature] aubergine
Why creature?
In my limited experience playing with or spectating Creature, he's been a bit on the spam side (I say so with love). He might have intended to spam here (link) too, but it hasn't materialized. I've a general impression of discomfort.

What did you think about my townread of Creature?

[VOTE: RondoDimBuckle] aubergine

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:08 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:06 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:05 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:04 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:02 pm Rondo and Lucy are not wolves together.
I would call that the strongest current dissociation, yes
Second strongest is me and you.
pls explain
JJJ and I never have the reaction test interaction as wolves.

Why's it out of your wolfrange? I've seen you both wolf, you both have the capacity to fake that easily.

[v]RondoDimBuckle[/v]

Tossing out this (maybe slightly disrespectful) read:

In a playerlist like this, it would be psychologically easy for Creature as either alignment to do nothing or simply sheep people, especially in the context of an early D0 without any voting. That he's taking stabs at forming his own reads (#401, #404, #422) and trying to discourage a "do nothing and sheep" mentality (#351) reflects well on him, as I think he would be more willing to put in that effort as town.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:01 pm I'm sitting here on the burgeoning belief that I've randed town with JJJ and Alison.

If that's true then we are likely to win.

I have a positive view on JJJ and a reserved but not negative view on you. So I'm optimistic.

Rondo and Lucy are not wolves together.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:54 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:53 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:48 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:46 pm What do you mean "micro and macro"?
Aforementioned "little moments" are micro. Macro, I acknowledge that the guy has made more posts than anyone in the game short maybe of lucy. I can't say he's uncomfortable.
He has 77 posts and I can't think of a single game-related opinion he has other than being slightly suspicious of Lucy for talking about TV too much and then saying he liked a post of Lucy's later on. I don't know if the quantity of his posting is a plus there.
>expecting me to care about N0 when I dont even care about D1

I can buy that someone might be willing to chill through D0 and not give a fuck. I'm just saying it's not a sign of townieness to do so.

What do you think of me Rondo?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:48 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:46 pm What do you mean "micro and macro"?
Aforementioned "little moments" are micro. Macro, I acknowledge that the guy has made more posts than anyone in the game short maybe of lucy. I can't say he's uncomfortable.

He has 77 posts and I can't think of a single game-related opinion he has other than being slightly suspicious of Lucy for talking about TV too much and then saying he liked a post of Lucy's later on. I don't know if the quantity of his posting is a plus there.

What do you mean "micro and macro"?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:38 pm I always used to say that I have no preference between rolling town or mafia, but these days that's probably a lie I would tell myself to assuage my ego. I play Mafia mostly for the solving.

Thoughts on Rondo?

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:30 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:29 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:27 pm Is it a bad idea to read JJJ based on how eager he seems to be?
Yes. I have never known him to have a mafia game where he was not eager - if I remember correctly, the first time I ever played with him I (incorrectly) wolfread him because his eagerness seemed so over the top I was convinced it was faked.
I tend to wolfread experienced players for being eager (for some reason most of them prefer wolfing because less effort?), but meh.

Most mafia players, in my experience, prefer being town to wolf, regardless of experience level. I am one of the exceptions, but I definitely wouldn't wolfread someone for being eager.

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:30 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:27 pm Is it a bad idea to read JJJ based on how eager he seems to be?
he'll do nothing out of his "town range" because he's playing with players who know him very well

As opposed to games with strangers, where he acts as scummy as possible.

I do townread JJJ but not for that reason.

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:27 pm Is it a bad idea to read JJJ based on how eager he seems to be?

Yes. I have never known him to have a mafia game where he was not eager - if I remember correctly, the first time I ever played with him I (incorrectly) wolfread him because his eagerness seemed so over the top I was convinced it was faked.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:25 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:54 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:06 pm lucy
Boquise
Seanzie

decent squad for Day 0. everybody get in my squad. show me your vip squad passes
I have 0 people I'd consider clear enough to call them part of my squad - I have a light townread on Falcon and that's mostly it. You have three.

What are you seeing that I don't?
JJJ often has early TRs, no? Is it the fact he has TRs, or the players he's TRing?

Is your TR on my slot based off just the one post you quoted, or is there something more?

The fact that he has three in a gamestate that I found difficult to parse/extract easy reads from.

I explain my townread on you later on, keep reading.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:22 pm He said it to me when he saw the player list lol.

I didn't notice him calling it anywhere in the thread so I was wondering if he said it in the mafia chat and slipped that he did lol.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:20 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:18 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:16 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:13 pm If I had to pick someone to vote right now it would be Rondo.
You know, I KNEW going into this game you would focus me. This is going to be fun. HAHAHAH
I put down a phantom vote on you less than 10 pages into the game.

Does that feel like being focused to you?
No but your opening is exactly how I expected it to be, I called it early and I like being right.

Where did you call it?

I used to know how to ping people on this site. @Boquise

@boquise How good would you say JJJ is at reading you?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:16 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:13 pm If I had to pick someone to vote right now it would be Rondo.
You know, I KNEW going into this game you would focus me. This is going to be fun. HAHAHAH

I put down a phantom vote on you less than 10 pages into the game.

Does that feel like being focused to you?

If I had to pick someone to vote right now it would be Rondo.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:12 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:11 pm Ender just to be clear do you actually scumread one of Jay's townreads or was it just a reaction test?
Don't look at the man behind the curtain.

Ender just to be clear do you actually scumread one of Jay's townreads or was it just a reaction test?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:49 pm Just so I am clear, with all this talk of Champs and stuff. I havent accidentally entered a champs game have I?

Pretty sure I havent, just need to make sure because its early and you're all doing my head in with this champs talk

Sometimes I wonder how much of your posting is a joke and how much isn't.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:00 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:54 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:06 pm lucy
Boquise
Seanzie

decent squad for Day 0. everybody get in my squad. show me your vip squad passes
I have 0 people I'd consider clear enough to call them part of my squad - I have a light townread on Falcon and that's mostly it. You have three.

What are you seeing that I don't?
"Clear" is a strong word. I wouldn't call anyone in the game "clear". Those three reflect the earliest blossoms of town reads for me, however, and that meets my Day 0 standard. Lucy, for example, has fallen into an archetype that has, in my experience, proven to be a quite reliable town tell (not infallible, but plenty solid). She is a new player to forum Mafia, and she is in a new environment filled with strangers who carry reputations in their wake, and she still strikes me as comfortable, engaged, and motivated. She appears ready to try to make her mark on the game, and it has been pretty rare for me to see that kind of attitude in the past from mafia-aligned players in circumstances like hers.

Whaddya like about Captain Falcon?

I've played with a lot of players who come from chat mafia - they are almost always chatty and comfortable in that chattiness, regardless of alignment. I think the fact that Lucy is refusing to make reads and is just talking about TV shows means that I'd expect her to be comfortable even if she was a wolf.

I townread her for a post she made afterwards where she asked Seanzie about his age. I think her worrying about adjusting her perspective on his tone based on his age was a sincere thought, and it's not something that many people, especially forum mafia newbies, would think to fake. It reflects a desire to get things right, which I guess is sorta close to what you said about her wanting to make a mark. I'm with you on Lucy right now.

What about Boquise and Seanzie? I'm not familiar with Boquise, but he hasn't done anything that jumps out as me as town, and Seanzie if anything is being slightly less proddy and pokey than he usually is.

Re: falcon, I think if he was mafia and said the line about there being one wolf between you and Seanzie, it would have been intentionally made to throw shade on you - but he backs off it relatively quickly and plays it off as a joke, which suggests he isn't really interested in pushing that narrative. Nothing out of the realm of fakeability, but it's enough for a townlean on page 2.

Boquise wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:33 pm Regarding the "not say your wolf leans on D0" thing I asked Creature about. I mentioned that there are some reasons and given Creature has now replied, I will say mine.

Scum reads tend to make people defensive/emotional. Since D0 seems to be jokish, I reckon it could from one perspective ruin the "chill phase" and from another perspective, give scum hints on how to act accordingly.

I am not really pro hiding thoughts, but I think it is better to focus on town reads. I did have a dude on my ol' homesite who was great at sniffing out scum in our N1 phases tho (we had N1 starting before D1 and open night chat for everyone) by just looking at how players acted, if they were nervous etc.

Creature's response is lol and creature-esque. I'm not really satisfied, but it is D0 so!

Making people defensive and emotional is a good way of both finding and executing scum.

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 3:57 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 3:56 pm A few things I wanna say before we get started for those of you who don’t know. Champs, particularly in qualifiers is incredibly scumsided. The current stats are 54 wolf wins to 19 town wins for qualifiers. Not only that but from what I know there has only ever been one town sweep in qualifier game for champs, and my goal is for us to be the second . Few things I’ve picked up from that game and previous champs games this year that I think might be important for us to incorporate and areas where I picked up previous towns went wrong

-This point may already be obvious to some but : the most important thing you can do as a villager is make yourself an obvious villager. The last town that swept was led by Jjj/spf and they encouraged a playstyle that focussed heavily on finding other townies first before hunting for wolves and the best way to facilitate that is by making yourself an obvious townie and taking yourself out of the miselimination pool and working with open communication to find other townies. Champs by nature encourages a glory hunting playstyle where people want to be the one who catches wolves before everyone and be the one to bury wolves but the most successful towns have always been the ones that focussed more on working with each other and finding other townies before trying to bury wolves. If we can all do our part to raise the bar of towniness wolves will eventually out themselves and either be forced to push obvious townies and further out themselves, bus each other or just give up and lolcat.

- if the game starts too feel too easy it probably means there’s something wrong. The stats don’t lie, this is favored for wolves which means it’s not supposed to be easy for us. People often go for the easiest/least accountable votes on d1 but keep in mind wolves have teammates and I’ve rarely seen wolves bus hard d1 in champs. So if the entire lobby is dogpiling on one or two slots d1 don’t get complacent because we could be way off.
im plagiarizing Illario/happy, who was a wolf in my game, but I found this advice pretty good nonetheless

I bet he added in the second part after the Champs Practice game.

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 3:24 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 3:20 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 3:16 pm how old are ya seanzie?
32, and you?
18, ur posts give me jokey vibes but I've spoken to enough old people to where specific age effects the tone your posts convey which is important

I think I like this post more than any other I've seen in the thread.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:06 pm lucy
Boquise
Seanzie

decent squad for Day 0. everybody get in my squad. show me your vip squad passes

I have 0 people I'd consider clear enough to call them part of my squad - I have a light townread on Falcon and that's mostly it. You have three.

What are you seeing that I don't?

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:50 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:45 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:42 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:41 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:07 pm i got warned about this lobby lol, do you reckon it’ll be a casual or very competitive game?
"Warned" is an odd choice of words to use. Who "warned" you about this lobby and why?
Lag, because of player strength, and that this is my second forum mafia game
Generally people are excited to play in stacked lists. I'm curious about your framing of it as a warning, a negative thing. Was there anything specific you or Lag were concerned or afraid about?
excited is quoting me, I was paraphrasing lag. i was framing it as competition where for me personally that specific framing has positive connotations due to the lack of competition I normally face in games/school and whatnot. one concern i had was pulling wolf, thankfully I didn't cause then this lobby would become a burden compared to an asset

Okay.

What's your most confident read at this moment?

I can tell Lucy is a Discord mafia player just by reading her posts.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:56 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:55 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:54 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:46 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:41 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:40 pm It is a read.
Werd. What gives me away, Seanzie?
I mean, your general approach is helpful, and even though I kinda think you'd do that as either alignment as it would be expected of you, I'll still give marginal townpoints to people townsiding early on even if it is in their wolf range, but your approach to (and around) Lucy looks good, in particular this post:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:17 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:13 pm I play casually every game, even when I Should be competitive. What about you? You seem to be taking this PREEETY serious
Does lucy taking the game PREEETY serious mean something to you?
Something about the combination of snideness, curiosity and pushing the game forward in this post is enough that town bells rang in my head.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:49 pm I appreciate an early effort from Seanzie to develop a read of some measure of substance at a stage when many wouldn't bother. I temper that by acknowledging that "town read Jay" isn't a "difficult" perspective to adopt, hypothetically. Nonetheless it's a start.
JJJ and Sean doing a cute lil' dance around each other here.

69% chance one of em' is Maf
No.
Life is a lot more interesting if you say yes more often than no.

Mafia is Life.

Ergo, don't say no

I think this post from falcon is kinda townie.

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:42 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:41 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:07 pm i got warned about this lobby lol, do you reckon it’ll be a casual or very competitive game?
"Warned" is an odd choice of words to use. Who "warned" you about this lobby and why?
Lag, because of player strength, and that this is my second forum mafia game

Generally people are excited to play in stacked lists. I'm curious about your framing of it as a warning, a negative thing. Was there anything specific you or Lag were concerned or afraid about?

lucy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:07 pm i got warned about this lobby lol, do you reckon it’ll be a casual or very competitive game?

"Warned" is an odd choice of words to use. Who "warned" you about this lobby and why?

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