The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 7:49 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 7:47 am I havent read anything but the flip but the interactions between me and LB should be pretty clearing and also the motherfucker who told me that Kami hard townread luckbox N1 is a mafia taking advantage of my known tendency to sheep town legacies.

it was me

I am town

now what

then i guess you better hope the mafia is wilgy

Kill that person for doing what they did and Wilgy for trying to vote anyone except mafia D2. ggez

I havent read anything but the flip but the interactions between me and LB should be pretty clearing and also the motherfucker who told me that Kami hard townread luckbox N1 is a mafia taking advantage of my known tendency to sheep town legacies.

My VOR ultimatum proposal still stands

It might be Mac and Esooa because of interactions today but if so I just lose so I'll play as though it wasn't

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:35 pm @Alison what do u think about Mac

It's not out of his wolf range but I think he is significantly townier than the others in this game so I'm probably not getting there on him before FX and while people like Luck and Ender are still alive

Fine [VOTE: Luckbox] aubergine

People keep saying Wilgy is townie but I'm not really seeing it

@Esooa Who should we vote out and why?

If this is a glorified way of saying DADV I don't care about it.

If you have specific things you identified as townie about Wilgy's play (rather than just "he seems frustrated, probably town!" which is very easy to fake for a wolf of Wilgy's caliber) then you are welcome to share.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:37 pm Also the complete lack of energy feels kinda bad for town ngl.

We did have a lot of discussion during the night but still feels weird

I have been reading and lurking a little bit. I am multitabling hard and dealing with my parents coming down for Christmas so I'm less active here.

I don't really have much interest in this day phase and would prefer to just sleepwalk to a Wilgy exe. I don't particularly want him around in F5 even if he is town and it's unclear to me that he is.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 6:30 am I really wish that I can explain it, but it's partial meta that I'm leaving out purposefully so you don't screw me over in later games by using it as mafia.

cringe

Turbo Wilgy tomorrow please, his catchup is garbage. Ender's case is unconvincing but I think he is slightly townie for making it. Don't take him out of the POE but put him at the top of it.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:54 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:52 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:14 am If Wilgy flips town then Ender has to be scum. I can't see any scum teams that do not involve Ender in that world.

Can I sell you Esooa/Luckbox?

What's the pitch?

I'm waiting.

I actually just realized that we have to kill Wilgy tomorrow no matter what because if we miss then we go into F5 with Wilgy. If they are scum we want to kill them if they are town we want to keep them away from F5.

Wilgy mischops are probably the biggest Syndicate meme.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:52 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:14 am If Wilgy flips town then Ender has to be scum. I can't see any scum teams that do not involve Ender in that world.

Can I sell you Esooa/Luckbox?

What's the pitch?

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:47 am I only said that to make you happy before you die and I change my mind

If she changes her mind turbo her instantly.

I honestly don't believe in the Luckbox clear as much as other people do but I think there's enough evidence that way that we should just nab the easy pelt first and explore Ender vs Luckbox later.

My gigabrain tells me that the mafia is DrWilgy who is the same person Esooa wanted to kill.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:38 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:30 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:28 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:28 am @Kami these people are giving power up to me after I killed you, in fact because of it

these people equals literally just Alison btw

You don't agree?

if I'm wolf esooa I just kill you tonight kill a town kill mac and then nobody will care that we ever had this conversation... its no threat to her at all

We'll just have to trust that the rest of the town is competent enough to turbo the person who has killed two town and been hard scumread by all three nightkills

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:37 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:37 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:36 am guys I dunno if you should do this sheeping me plan, I won't be able to spend much time on this game seeing as my cat just died

Really?

no I wanted to say something from when 112 was a wolf and pocketed Mac and they did that that game iirc

lmao

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:37 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:29 am It's literally the VOR Ultimatum. It is the gun-to-head demand I made of my strongest wolfread.

esooa is your strongest wolfread?

No, VOR was.

I am saying that treating Esooa in the same way I treated my strongest wolfread in that game is not exactly giving her power or disrespecting Kami's legacy.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:36 am guys I dunno if you should do this sheeping me plan, I won't be able to spend much time on this game seeing as my cat just died

Really?

He has no agenda to push.

LC is just town independent of Ender stuff tbh. He just walks in and hard clears iaafr for being a weathervane and walks out.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:28 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:28 am @Kami these people are giving power up to me after I killed you, in fact because of it

these people equals literally just Alison btw

You don't agree?

It's literally the VOR Ultimatum. It is the gun-to-head demand I made of my strongest wolfread.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:26 am I bet LC is going to win as mafia

I would be happy for him and glad that he is no longer an ultra polarized player if so.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:26 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:50 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:10 pm I still find Rabbit towny as hell I'm just confused at this game state right now.

what do you find towny about him?

@Luckbox Inc also you?

Started off with his attempt to read Esooa and the fact that I was pretty much melding with his thought process.
Then it's pretty much the fact that he pinballs around with scumreads and team guesses throughout the day phase that I've seen him do in every game he was town in.
Plus he never actually fell off throughout the day phase, like he was consistently hunting around, trying to find answers.

Just so you know being a weathervane is NAI for rabbit. It's the most obvious part of his town meta so he has learned to fake it extensively as wolf.

Honestly 112 is actually probably a wolf since I remember they zeropost when randing mafia or 3P and at least put in token effort when they are town.

Okay let's try it.

My suggested POE is Wilgy Luckbox Ender

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:21 am well she wolf read me for not posting enough words in my first 10 posts so I don't like her smh

Yeah ik but it doesn't mean we should just ignore her entire ISO when she's a competent player

We could give Esooa a POE and she chooses who dies in it, if they flip town then we turbo her for getting two townies killed + being in a tight POE that just shrunk by 1

I mean if the townie is a troll then yeah but idt Kami was trolling this game

I'm not down to just completely trash a dead townie's legacy. I hate it when people do that to me.

If Esooa is town then Luckbox was top wagon and in the last four hours the winds of EOD pushed the wagon off him and onto two townies which is sus. Less sus in a 2 mafia game but still a little sus.

If Wilgy flips town then Ender has to be scum. I can't see any scum teams that do not involve Ender in that world.

Fuck it, just see who dies N1, turbo Wilgy, see who dies N2, and then sheep their reads

If Luckbox is town then 112 is extremely likely to be a mafia member due to lack of options

Kami locked Luckbox town? I didn't realize that. I'll respect the read then.

It's actually amazing how much more fun mafia is when the player list is quality. The most annoying thing that has happened so far is 112 zeroposting.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:06 am it'd be funny if I was with 112

It would because of how annoyed you got at having a 0 poster teammate.

FTR I don't think Mac sees iaafr as a necessary misexe at all if he is mafia (regardless of his partner) so I don't think that his decision to tinfoil iaafr is scummy.

I am also interested in hearing from anyone who objects to my three clears (iaafr, Mac, LC). I have heard Mac's tinfoil on iaafr and don't find it convincing.

I have no interest in voting iaafr, Mac, or LC.

That leaves Esooa, Ender, 112 and Luckbox.

We have three exes so I just have to clear one person from this list.

@MacDougall I am interested in hearing your Luckbox towncase.

I don't think Esooa and Ender can be together. I don't really think it's Esooa and Luckbox because of the way Esooa treated my read on Luckbox. Every other team is possible.

Possibly we just flip 112, if 112 is town then Esooa can have no partners and Ender/Luckbox is outed.

Not into this iaafr tinfoil.

Don't think Mac is scum though.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:38 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:36 am I think LC is scummy honestly.

But I suspect his alignment will become clear by EOD1 anyway.

has it tho

Kinda. I think Ender either has a good read on him or TMI'd him. His alignment is not super clear in the natural sense but he's not in my POE.