The Syndicate

oh wait i missed counting nutella in the numbers. it would have been 2x5 if their kill had gone through then nutella zaps me and they shoot 1 person. starting elimlo at 2x3 is still a big advantage. The kill there is actually super awkward for them. Let's say they had successfully shot Epi today al...

yeah, but in no world where i'm an alien would i ever waste a shot at end game when every kill matters, especially when that could be the last even number night with me and my partner alive allowing 2 kills. i can't believe anyone in this game would think that, either. if the play had come from me,...

your confidence is what makes it unbelievable. you are refusing to believe in a world where carot does protect epi (who was even more townread than proto at the time) under any possibility whatsoever and that's reverse-tmi i guess? it doesn't feel like you suspicion is coming from a paranoid townie...

Compare this with proto: he brought up other kill possibilities immediately, which is what town does. proto also didn't bunker save another townie last night, so his speculation is naturally going to be different from carotte's. i feel like you're not genuinely weighing the significance of carot's ...

2) it explains something that can't be explained if you're town. i'm slow, what is unexplainable if carot is town? How Carot "knew" the kill was Epi/Sabie and didn't even pause to consider other possibilities like proto/sabie. Compare this with proto: he brought up other kill possibilitie...

Once again, I literally don't need to "fake clear" myself. :p Also, it's just a bad mechanical strategy and I refuse to be tied with that. Everyone present already implied they didn't save at this time. The only ones not present are the ones I believe to be the last aliens so no, I don't ...

because nutella has repeatedly expressed that she believes Mac to be town strongly for reasons pertaining to the Hally kill i don't think that's even accurate. she said she doesn't think mac would do it, but it's not concrete. your mind-twin assumed that if i'm shot and flip town, nutella would sho...

Also, I'm telling you I saved Epignosis. Unless you have reasonable reasons to believe I'm making this up (talk to me if it's the case), you should believe it and 100% clear Epignosis for good and clear me too. Actually I'm pretty sure this spews you scum If your story holds water you would have no...

proto is town read, but less widely than Epignosis and tutuu/sabie were. I 100% believe that Epignosis was always the night kill. TonyStarkPrime is the only one that didn't claim, but it doesn't change much at this point. At the time you made the claim of protecting Epi, nobody had claimed yet. You...

i believe carot wholeheartedly. there is not carot/tony partnership that makes carot feel the necessity to town clear herself or me. the fact is, she didn't have to do anything and nutella would shoot me, i flip town, then mac, mac flips town. alison is an alien. Please sit down and think about it ...

1) I'm in her PoE since the very beginning, and yet I'm still alive ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ nutella jumped on dunya at SoD, not me :p So nah, I don't feel in danger. 2) That's just because there's no other realistic explanation, so I feel very comforting assuming my save worked. blast this off the face of the ea...

If I'm an alien I don't need this, I'm not under a "heavy amount of suspicion". :p 1) This is a pure lie. You were in nutella's PoE for a very long time, and was her "lockest alien" (her words) during Day 3. Nothing she's said or done during Night 3 or Day 4 has indicated that s...

so proto is spewed clear from the interaction with Carot, not that that's surprising, and I also think dunya looks clear from this. It's hard to believe that a dunya/Carot wolf team just decided to have a townread and hug each other in thread when nutella has stated intent to shoot dunya. It looks m...

Also, I'm telling you I saved Epignosis. Unless you have reasonable reasons to believe I'm making this up (talk to me if it's the case), you should believe it and 100% clear Epignosis for good and clear me too. Actually I'm pretty sure this spews you scum If your story holds water you would have no...

Its like frustration or paranoia or anger. I dont know. I dont understand why you would be angry. before i respond, i am not at all angry. don't know how you thought it's anger, sorry if it came across like that! i am definitely paranoid of you pocketing us. the ridiculous kill dizzyxdunyaxtonyxme ...

the scum team is probably just carot/TSP laughing their asses off in the wolf chat while mac/dunya/epi go at it tbh none of this feels particularly forced and none of it feels productive, which means that it's just townies engaging in anti-town behavior while scum ghost the thread and leave them to it

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:29 am you're not incorrect about the first thing but also who cares

I mean the rest of my point still stands really, you have to actually explain why town dunya would read you as town here because I really don't get it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:25 am @Epignosis come back. I issue you with an unreserved apology for my toxic and terrible aggressive behaviour. I lost control of my emotions and it was not your fault.

good post

"I'm not going to talk to the biggest consensus townread because he's a douche" (he wasn't) is like D1 macdougall levels of anti-town. This is an awful way of playing mafia. If you think Epi is asking you about stuff that he has no right asking then you can say so, but completely refusing ...

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:45 pm i am not going to answer any questions that epi asks me from now until the end of the game because he's a douche gg

horrible post

I don't think it's tony I think it's proto but i think you are on the right track carot the hally and sabie kills make sense to be proto/alison proto has been the one pushing to read heavily into the "would mac kill new players" angle a lot hmmn the point that points heavily against proto...

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:19 pm alison/proto maybe?

I wish. would love to be on a wolf team with proto someday

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:19 pm i think it's exactly dunya/carot or they are both town

I don't understand this read at all

like if dunya is town, carot is also town...?

if carot is town, that somehow makes your suspicion of dunya for not reading you properly go away?

Dunya said something that fmpov was a scumslip. When she said "mac is compatible with everyone". I am literally compatible with nobody and Dunya would see that if she was town. this isn't what a scumslip means a scumslip is when a player says something that it is impossible for them to kn...

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:40 pm I need everyone to give a crystal fucking clear read list as well as exact count of remaining protections

in order from towniest to scummiest

Epi
Proto
Dunya
Mac
TSP
Carot

I have 3 remaining protections. I protected you when ordered and have holstered all other nights.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:37 pm awww i feel like i love carot this night phase.

what has carot done that night phase? I really don't get it, I read through her posts and it's a bunch of fluff and mech stuff. Like the only real gamesolving post she made was pushing me and mac as partners

Its like frustration or paranoia or anger. I dont know. I dont understand why you would be angry. before i respond, i am not at all angry. don't know how you thought it's anger, sorry if it came across like that! i am definitely paranoid of you pocketing us. the ridiculous kill dizzyxdunyaxtonyxme ...

why has carot just mysteriously vanished off everyone's scum radars when she has done basically nothing to clear her as town? I really want to say that the second scum is someone who originally scumread her and then suddeny flipped around on her when the timing was convenient, but the two biggest pe...

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:33 pm I mean, to Proto: I would bet harder on you and Epi being unaligned than I'd bet on any other pair.

Actually I would bet super hard on Proto and Epi being the same alignment :P

I assume you meant "I would bet harder that these two aren't the scum team", which I agree with.

no. think of it this way, you don' know much about me but maybe you know i get emotionally invested in the game and players i play with. hally is a brand new player on the syndicate, and she replaced into a game with 20+ pages and made an effort to catch up on those and make maybe more than 100 pos...

my posts I mean pages

why is it that every time I'm feeling well the game is a desert but whenever I get sick or inactive for even one day there's like 20 posts immediately

Here's where I'm at. List is in order of confidence: the people at the top are the ones I'm most confident putting into that category. Town: Epignosis - He has an established meta that would forbid him to shoot Hally, plus the way Rej claimed a save on him makes me think he's spewed clear. protocult...

sabie looks worse than tutuu but I think tutuu was just town and their alignment doesn't change just because a sub out happened. Plus my best guess for the scumteam right now is probably nanook/carot and the way nanook wanted to shoot either of us makes me think we're both town and that's why nanook...

I find it difficult to read this amount of raw emotion as anything but town though, as much as I hate being swayed by AtE. Like I genuinely believe dunya is offended that people thought she was mean enough to kill Hally N1.

I really don't like to see players just give up when they're under pressure. If they are wolves, it's an unsatisfactory win at best where it felt like they conceded it to us rather than us being sharp-eyed enough to catch them and push the lynch through. If they are town, that is even worse. I've s...

I really don't like to see players just give up when they're under pressure. If they are wolves, it's an unsatisfactory win at best where it felt like they conceded it to us rather than us being sharp-eyed enough to catch them and push the lynch through. If they are town, that is even worse. I've se...

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:32 am If the plan is to shoot between me and proto and Tony anyway, go ahead. Why bother lol.

Don't just give up and lie down to die if you're town. Keep pushing the people you scumread (even if it's me) and project town to nutella. What are your theories about why the wolf team shot LC?

protocultures wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:05 am
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:19 am I protected nut last night btw. I hadn't read the thread yet, but saw the notification to protect her.
Can you also confirm you didn't bunkersave anyone on night 2? Sorry if you did already.

I holstered night 2, yeah.

Oh, I see it now after checking your ISO, you said tutuu's reads had a sketchy progression. Can you expand on this?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:10 am
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:05 am If you were nutella who would you shoot this day phase and why?
My vote’s on you so

Probably you or sabie, for reasons I’ve laid out in the past I believe

sabie? I don't recall this

If you were nutella who would you shoot this day phase and why?

I'm not sure how to get through to you why I think what I think here

I feel like every time I ask you to give a take on Carot action X or Carot action Y you like, silently shrug your shoulders and go "I guess that's reasonable" or "yeah I think it's right" or "tbh I'm not convinced by your case on her".

I’ll real time with you though if you want to! I’m aroundish for a bit. What do you think about the way Carot has been fixated on me being scum? Well, it’s a read I mostly share, so....not terrible tbh Carot’s tough for me to make a good call on cause my time online hasn’t overlapped much with thei...

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:02 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:00 pm Though I'd rather do with people I already know.
Alison can probably host a mini one for syndicats on discord ;p

Also down for audio on the weekend.

I would love that

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:28 am I’ll real time with you though if you want to! I’m aroundish for a bit.

What do you think about the way Carot has been fixated on me being scum?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:56 pm Epi/Proto alien scum theater firming up in the betting market

How do you not believe that Epi is town?

And you called out Dizzy for appealing to Hally's townread of them, for much the same reasons, so you definitely know this is not a logically sound thing to be doing dunya

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